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- From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
- Subject: Re: Where the extra money goes.
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.150907.20197@athena.mit.edu>
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- References: <1992Nov16.103650.320@athena.mit.edu> <BALDWIN.92Nov16163242@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:09:07 GMT
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- In article <BALDWIN.92Nov16163242@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil>, baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin) writes:
- |> In article <1992Nov16.103650.320@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu
- |> (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
- |> >In NYC in particular, a large fraction of this money goes to janitors
- |> >who make $20,000 more than teachers in this school system with some of
- |> >the highest paid teachers in the country. NYC may be an exception with
- |> >respect to the janitorial situation, but any district where half of
- |> >all personell costs go to non-teachers is doing something VERY wrong.
- |>
- |> I'm a big detractor of the inflated "support" costs of our educational
- |> system, but I have to register mild disagreement with this statement.
- |> "Half of all personnel costs to non-teachers" isn't specific enough to
- |> address any real problem. I suspect that some substantial portion of
- |> the people labeled as "janitors" in the source that quoted the above
- |> factoid are actually what might more accurately be called
- |> "maintenance" employees, which are and ought to be in a different
- |> category from "janitors."
-
- You combined two seperate tidbits of information that I had in the above
- paragraph.
-
- A) Almost half of all salaries go to non-teachers in urban areas. This includes
- anybody who doesn't teach including janitors, secretaries and non-teaching
- administrators, and probably a whole bunch of other categories. Reguardless of
- who is getting this money, 50% is simply outrageous. (Even my school district
- wasn't this bad.) BTW, guidance counselors are usually considered teachers,
- although in NYC (and probably most other urban school districts) they don't make
- much of a difference.
-
- B) The janitors in NYC school are outrageously overpaid and criminally negligent
- as shown on 60 minutes.
-
- Jason W. Solinsky
-