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- From: gjb@fig.citib.com (Greg Brail)
- Subject: Re: The Problem with UNIX
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- Organization: Citibank IBISM
- References: <1992Nov14.020019.23466@nrao.edu> <Bxq6uz.BB8@chinet.chi.il.us> <97716@netnews.upenn.edu>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:59:11 GMT
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- In article <97716@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
- >In article <Bxq6uz.BB8@chinet.chi.il.us> les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
- >>These problems could be solved as easily under unix as anywhere else,
- >>except for the fact that people who have spent years learning unix
- >>have forgotten that there is a problem.
-
- Bravo! Exactly.
-
- >"Problem" is a matter of opinion; I consider the items you list "features",
- >and find the occasional toasting that they give to a user who didn't RTFM
- >a helpful educational tool.
-
- Not too many years ago a bunch of Navy crewmen who hadn't read all the FMs
- on the USS Vincennes blew up an airliner, killing hundreds of innocent people.
- I realize this is an extreme example, but the stone-age attitude that
- user interfaces must be cryptic to "teach the user a lesson" is alive and
- well in UNIX.
-
- UNIX is becoming more and more common in commercial environments, but this
- attitude will drive people away. Fortunately, it's possible to give "Joe
- User" a reasonable interface and save the command line for the hackers.
-
- I consider myself a fairly knowledgable UNIX user, but I still type
- "tar cvf file.tar ." from time to time and don't realize it until "file.tar"
- recursively grows to 200MB and fills the filesystem. Feel free to laugh and
- call me an idiot. I really couldn't care less. And I don't expect to
- win this argument as long as it stays in comp.unix.wizards, where it
- doesn't belong anyway.
-
- > I happen to like the expert-friendly
- >and relatively unforgiving nature of most Unix implmentations. Those
- >who feel otherwise are certainly free to implement whatever warm-fuzzy-
- >hand-holding-protect-the-user-from-themselves features they wish.
-
- That's why I have a Macintosh at home.
-
- greg
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