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- From: singer@cs.uwp.edu (Scott Singer)
- Subject: Re: Diamond 24X vs. Stealth
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.145311.8550@cs.uwp.edu>
- Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
- References: <1992Nov19.161822.26616@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> <oLgJuB4w165w@billapc.UUCP>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:53:11 GMT
- Lines: 97
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- In article <oLgJuB4w165w@billapc.UUCP> baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin) writes:
- >young@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (young.u.huh) writes:
- >
- >> Any comments on Diamond Speedstar 24X vs. the Stealth?
- >
- >The Windows drivers included with the 24X were complete, and seemed
- >very fast. I take all claims of 15/25 etc with a grain of salt. It
- >was 5 times as fast as the card it replaced.. which was a fairly cheap
-
- What are you using to perform this "benchmark" on your machine? I'd
- be curious to what configuration you have set up. As for the 25 times
- speed increase on the Stealth - I'd like to see WHERE they came up with
- that number......
-
- >
- >I would spend the money on a faster motherboard.
-
- TO THE ORIGINAL POSTER:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- I disagree, sorta. In your case, I would say MAYBE, buy a faster motherboard,
- but I would ALSO reccommend buying a 24x along with it. If you move up
- to a faster motherboard alone, you won't see a great deal of video
- speed-up. If you plan on using any high resolution modes (800x600 or
- 1024x768) you will definetly want a faster video card (24x). As an example,
- we have 486-33Mhz's running with the Tseng 4000 based SpeedStar (NOT the 24x)
- cards in them. Now, the machine is what most anyone would consider quite
- fast, but the video speed is terrible - scrolling through source code is
- such a pain. If you are doing any sort of editing, like in a text editor
- or something similar, you will be literly chugging along - let me point
- out that the video modes we used ARE bigger than 640x480 AND we are set
- for 256 colors. In a setup such as this a good perormance gain can be
- realized by moving to the 16-color mode.
-
- As another example, my macine at work originally came with a 1 meg SVGA card
- (it was an Everx Viewpoint card) and the performance of windows was
- very slow - you could NEVER tell that the machine was in fact a 486-DX 50Mhz
- by looking at windows. So I replaced it with a Stealth VRAM at the
- thing cranks out speed now! Remember, most people (Diamond) are saying
- that the 24x is faster than the Stealth. NOW, I am running at 1024 x 768
- in 256 colors and it is VERY VERY fast. (Sometimes things go by TOO fast
- on the scrren :) )
-
- My point is that regardless of how fast your computer is, if you want
- to run lots of colors or high resolution you'll need a FAST video card
- (such as the 24x) if you are doing Windows. For DOS a tseng 4000 based
- card is great, but it is not as good in Windows.
-
- BUT - if you are wanting to run in just 640 x 480, then think about maybe
- a faster mother board and a tseng4000 (or trident etc,etc) VGA card. It
- won't be as fast as you want, but you could spend the money on a new
- mother board....
-
-
- I WOULD RECCOMMEND that you buy a 24x at a local place that you can
- try it out at home for a while. If you don't see the improvement
- then you'd be able to return it. But I think you'd see LOTS of improvement
- in Windows. I'd ALSO say spend the extra $120 on a slightly faster
- 386sx-25Mhz motherboard. Sure, it's not TONS faster, but it IS faster.
- Also, 386-DX33/40 motherboards are around $200. Either way you could
- (possibly) use your existing memory on the new motherboard, and then
- just drop it right in your machine.
-
- How much memory (RAM) do you have on your system? If you don't have at
- least 4 meg you are probably suffering a lot of performance from the amount
- of hard disk access going on.
-
- I had a guy running a 386sx-20 at work with 2 meg ram on Windows 3.1 and
- the thing was terrribly slow - ALWAYS going to the HD for info. SO, I
- popped in 6 meg ram( total now at 8 meg) and the thing was PLENTY
- fast for him - definetly a huge improvement. YOU could do this - if
- your machine uses SIMMS then buy some that will be fast enough to put
- into your NEXT computer (Motherboard) that you will buy. That way, if
- you get yourself X megs of ram now, you will be able to use it
- when you upgrade..
-
- I would say first step would to have 4 meg of ram
- on your machine (at least) before even CONSIDERING a video/MB upgrade
- (that is IF you are mostly a Windows user) as that will give you an
- overall performance boost. Then go for a 24x board. I think it would
- work out really good.....
-
-
- >non-existant drivers for the 24X for OS/2 2.0 (GA+SP). If you have the
- >desire to dump Windows and use OS/2.. check for driver availablity
- >before you buy ANYTHING.
-
- Very good point on OS/2
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