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- From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
- Subject: Re: PIRACY
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.172037.6116@ugle.unit.no>
- Sender: news@ugle.unit.no (NetNews Administrator)
- Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
- References: <1960@lysator.liu.se> <XcL9TB2w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:20:37 GMT
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- In article <XcL9TB2w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us>, rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy) writes:
- > marvil@lysator.liu.se (Martin Vilcans) writes:
- >
- > > OK, let's say you've built a wooden table and a few chairs,
- > > which you have in your garden. The next night, someone comes
- > > and steal the outdoor furniture. That's not a moral thing to do,
- > > right? It's about the same thing when stealing software, the
- > > programmer has put blood, sweat and tears into his work, and
- > > perhaps he wants to have something back for that? So, it IS
- > > immoral to steal his software.
- > > (It is hard to make an example, as other things than software
- > > usually can't be copied the way software can.)
- >
- > Duh! Gee, George, ain't that the whole reason there is an argument?
- > You equate piracy with theft, and then tell us you can't come up with an
- > example because it is so very different from theft!
-
- Nope, he's saying that garden furniture can't be copied, *not* that software can't
- be stolen.
-
- > Piracy _is not_ theft. I will concede that piracy may be morally and
- > legally _wrong_, but it is _not_ theft. Theft, by definition, implies
- > depriving a person of his physical property, and anticipated profits _are
- > not physical property_. They cannot be quantified with any degree of
-
- Nope. Neither are the numbers in your bank account. I'll just change them around
- with the numbers in *my* bank account, and see what you call me.
-
- > certitude. The ONLY way I could ever buy this argument would be if the
- > program had to be re-written each time a copy was sold, in which case I
- > would have to agree it was quite similar. However, data can be
- > reproduced over and over at almost no additional cost, so the comparison
- > of real world, hand tooled goods is innacurate. People who are
- > victimized by pirates are not harmed as bad as people who are victimized
- > by thieves, because they have not actually lost any material goods.
- > While they can certainly say they have been harmed by the piracy, it is
- > hardly the same as a tablemaker being robbed: in this case, he has to
- > make a new table, just as he would have been forced to do had he sold it.
-
- So he would have had to make a new table *anyway*. What has HE lost?
-
- -Eyvind
-
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