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- From: gilbertd@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
- Subject: Re: The new Acorn Machine
- Message-ID: <gilbertd.721989130@p4.cs.man.ac.uk>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 08:32:10 GMT
- References: <lfubeqINNkrj@cronkite> <721419881snx@cursci.demon.co.uk> <10942@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> <gilbertd.721643489@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> <1992Nov16.133719.27313@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
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- In <1992Nov16.133719.27313@infodev.cam.ac.uk> nbvs@cl.cam.ac.uk (Nicko van Someren) writes:
-
- >It may be that RISCiX comes with too much but the price that Acorn set
- >for RISCiX is very good value for what to you get. An R260 is only
- >500 quid more than an A540 and comes with not only a full BSD4.3 with
- >TCP/IP, NFS, and X but also X.desktop, both the Athena and Motif
- >widgets and libraries, FORTRAN, PASCAL and C compilers, assembler and
- >a good sized set of useful tools including gnuemacs. I once totted up
- >how much a similar setup from SCO would cost for a 486 (and face it
- >you need a good 486 to catch an R260, a 386 is not good enough). SCO
- >unix gives you very little in the basic setup. The full set will cost
- >you the best part of 2800 pounds retail in the UK. If you just want
- >SCO with NFS, X, a C compiler and the various widget libraries it
- >still costs over 1400 pounds.
-
- I think that is fair enough - but...
-
- ... an A540 is a bit pricy to start with - thinking of it another
- way an A540 is around #1000 more than an A5000 so that makes an
- R260 #1500 more than an A5000. Perhaps a lot of this is more
- due for the need for pricing to catch up with the release of
- the A5000.
-
- Is there also a compulsary subscription to some Granada Microcare
- service thing as well in the price? (or is that extra?)
-
- I think a lot of these comments have just been seriously overshadowed,
- by Suns Sparc Classic adverts over the weekend. They were quoting
- around #3500 per Sparc classic in a 12 pack (!!!) - and thats as far
- as I can see with a 200Meg hard drive, 16Mb of ram and a
- 15" colour monitor.
-
- What is there in the Full SCO which isn't in the list you gave -
- by the time you have C, X, and NFS that would probably be enough
- for a lot of purposes.
-
- I agree that RISCiX is probably giving too much - and hence being
- too expensive - but X is free to them is it not - just requiring
- the appropriate porting (I dont know how much work that is),
- similarly a lot of people dont need X.desktop - its probably
- nice to have - but its not something which should affect the
- basic price.
-
- <stuff deleted>
-
- >The RISCiX kernel binary kit is available to RISCiX license holders on
- >request and it even comes with template code to show you how to write
- >both block and stream device drivers. The fact is most 3rd parties
- >dont care about RISCiX.
-
- Interestingly the Morley SCSI card has the option to make
- a RISCiX partition - but of course you cant do anything with it.
- If a lot of users had RISCiX (which would imply
- it would be cheap enough for people to buy) then I would
- have thought that 3rd parties would get more interested.
-
- >Nicko
-
- Dave
-
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