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- From: zeus@vxcrna.cern.ch
- Subject: Re: Two hackers caught tapping into Boeing, federal computers
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.003157.1@vxcrna.cern.ch>
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- Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
- References: <1992Nov12.084549.5128@unix.brighton.ac.uk>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:31:57 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov12.084549.5128@unix.brighton.ac.uk>, ddv@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Domenico De Vitto) writes:
- > Any org. that has a _root_ password in _a_ dictionary gets all it deserves.
- >
- > Dom
-
- Any company that uses a braindead operating system that makes passwords readable
- in encrypted form in the first place is braindead.
-
- 50,000 crypts per second in FORTRAN on a Cray sounds nice. I have played
- with much faster machines than that though, imagine what the CRAY will
- do once it has the bucket of Alpha chips bolted on... say a 1024 point
- array running 200 Mips... Exhaustive search starts to look quite
- feasible.
-
- If a computer is delivered in an unsecure state IT IS THE MAUFACTURERS
- FAULT!
-
- We should NOT go arround patching up garbage, especialy when the garbage
- costs a significant amount of money. I for one don't see why I should
- spend time patching a $2000 operating system.
-
- It's one thing for a manufacturer to screw up and throw out a security
- flaw. But the open password file has been present in UNIX for ten years.
-
- AND I DO KNOW THAT A "PROTECTED" PASSWORD FILE IS NOT SAFE EITHER !
-
- But I DO Know that it is a damn sight safer, especialy when there is
- a pinhead sysop.
-
- In the real world computers have to be built for pinheads. People
- who try to sell a product that requires intelligence to operate it
- are not going to sell much.
-
- I for one would rather spend my time learning about something a
- bit more interesting than the failings of 1970's spaghetti code
- operating systems.
-
-
- Phill Hallam-Baker
- With 10 years UNIX experience I have the right to say it sucks.
-
-