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- From: graves@drseus.jsc.nasa.gov (Philip Graves)
- Subject: Re: Modeling Slip, Mobile Robotics, Kinematics, Simulation
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.144824.26839@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:48:24 GMT
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- In article <1e8eknINNdn6@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> esrbu@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr I M Hunter) writes:
- >
- > Has anyone attempted to model the effects of slip: What happens to
- >an omnidirectional robot when wheels are misaligned or differ in size?
-
- We have two Cybermotion K2A mobile platforms which have a special drive
- train mechanism called "Synchro-Drive". The three wheels of this
- system are steered together so that they are always parallel (if aligned).
- Our experience is that when the wheels are not aligned, the system
- will always drive in an arc, instead of a staight line. One of the systems
- was modified to make it narrow enough to fit through a door (by moving
- the wheels towards the center of the platform). This caused the arcing
- problem to be worse, and the wheels have to be aligned more accurately
- to get it to drive a straight line.
-
- >do you model which wheel (or wheels) slip, by what degree and what is
- >the resultant force on the body of the robot? How would YOU model static
- >and dynamic friction? And this is after any errors within the robot itself
-
- I have used classical models of static and dynamic frictions, (requiring
- iterative solutions which are a major pain because they are
- not well suited for simulation). There are several sophisticated
- tire models used by automotive companies to model vehicles, and are
- available as part of commercial dynamics modeling and simulation
- packages such as ADAMS.
-
- >Am I simply a misguided man attempting
- >to model the (up to now) unmodelable? All I actually want to do is model a
- >couple of effects without trying to create a 'perfect' model (cos that is a
- >looser: what about differences in floor surfaces or angle of floor etc..)
-
- In general, you can only get a qualitative idea of what might happen
- from any model of this type. It is impossible to find the perfect model
- because the friction depends on a plethora of factors, including
- everything from temperature to how long it has been since the floor
- was mopped and waxed.
-
- Good Luck.
-
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- Philip Lee Graves, graves@drseus.jsc.nasa.gov
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