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- From: Steve Bollinger <buzz@apple.com.>
- Subject: Re: RTMP question
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:40:57 GMT
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- In article <1e605dINN44o@roche.csl.sri.com> David Stine, dstine@cisco.com
- writes:
- >It is also possible that collisions can take out RTMP update packets
- after
- >they have been sent by the router. This is somewhat less likely.
-
- AppleTalk was designed to run on LocalTalk, which has no collision
- detection. Losing RTMP packets on LocalTalk is not a terribly rare
- occurance. So any good implementation should have no problems with
- lost RTMP packets.
-
- >
- >>My question comes up because if I sit at the console of the Novell print
- >>server and watch the RTMP table, the next hop route to any given IP
- site is
- >>doing a 'musical chair routine' among the 30 some FastPaths. Every 10
- >>seconds or some the next hop changes nodes on the ethertalk segment!
-
- You probably don't mean IP here. Or maybe you don't mean RTMP. What do you
- mean?
-
- >Well, this is something of an open area in the AppleTalk end-node design.
- >Implementors who follow "Inside AppleTalk" to the letter will have their
- >designated router possibly switch with every incoming RTMP packet. Please
- >refer to pp. 5-18 and 5-19 in "Inside AppleTalk", 2nd. Ed.
- >
- >Some would say that this is a nuisance in AppleTalk, that it confuses the
- >issue of trying to figure out where your traffic is going and why. These
- folks
- >tend to come from the IP world, where you either tell a Unix host to
- >(statically) designate a default route to a router for all traffic or
- you are
- >running a routing protocol which tends to "lock on" to a path.
- >
- >So there are some AppleTalk end-node implementations which tend to stick
- with
- >the first router they hear as the value for A-ROUTER until they quit
- hearing
- >said router, at which time they pick another router on the cable.
- >
- >Then there is the flip side of the coin: by switching the value for
- A-ROUTER
- >with every update, you effect a sort of "load sharing" between the
- routers
- >present on a cable.
- >
- >Which is better? I'm sure we can find arguments in favor of both.
-
- Actually, it doesn't really matter much which you do, as long as you
- implement
- the "Optional best-router cache" described on Inside AppleTalk (V2) p
- 4-20.
- All but the most rudimentary of network devices should be able to
- implement
- this cache. If you do this, then the only thing A-Router does for you is
- tell you where to send your NBP requests.
-
- -Steve
-