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Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ Path: sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!att!dptg!ucs!skdutta From: skdutta@ucs.att.com (Saumen Dutta) Subject: C++ Product List - Version 2.04 - Part 2/8 Message-ID: <1992Nov18.022437.158@ucs.att.com> Organization: AT&T Universal Card Services, Jacksonville FL Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:24:37 GMT Lines: 544 1. Introduction _ ____________ This product list gives you the information about vari- ous products developed with C++. It includes the public domain software as well as commercial software. It also illustrates the features of these products. The products considered for the documentation are C++ Compilers, C++ Class Libraries and other Commercial Products. The format of this document is nearly the same for all the products (This has been done to facilitate compari- sions). The format is given below: + Product Name: Name of the product and its latest ver- sion + Platform: Hardware / Software platform (wherever relevant). + Restrictions and Availability: Whether Freeware (The term Freeware is used for public domain and free copy- righted or copylefted(GNU) software) or Commercial (detailed license or distribution conditions should be read from the copyright conditions supplied with the product). It also gives the address from where you can get the product. + ANSI Standard: How close the product confirm to the future ISO/ANSI standard. This information is ordi- narily provided for compilers, libraries and tools. + Present Version and price: includes information abt discount (if avbl.) + Description: Features, Experience with the product etc. + Source: Generally address of the person who provided the information (see copyright notice). Most often the features claimed to be available in the product are directly taken from the information in first person. + NetComments: Experience with the product by different user. Collected mainly from the USENET or response to some query on the USENET. Based on the availability of the information some of the above fields can be blank. Please feel free to point out any mistakes/changes on the above information. Please try to submit the change in the above format. 2. Compilers _ _________ A list of all compilers is included below. Refer to individual lists for detail. 2.1. Solbourne C++ Cfront translator Version 2 & PDB _ _ _________ _ ______ __________ _______ _ ___ + Platforms: SPARC/Sun Compatibles + Commercial software Available from: Qualix Group 1900 S. Norfolk St. Suite 224 San Mateo, CA 94403 (415) 572-0200 (voice) (415) 572-1300 (fax) info@qualix.com (email) + Supports AT&T C++ release 2 + List price: $1895 for Cfront and PDB debugger. Group/university discounts available. + Solbourne C++ cfront is a full function version of the AT&T C++ Language system release 2. It translates C++ into C source code. PDB is a network-oriented symbolic debugger. Written in C++, PDB features point-and-click functions for setting breakpoints and evaluating vari- ables. In addition, PDB offers multi-window views of source code, generated assembly code, the stack and a dynamic list of variables selected by the user. PDB includes full support for C++, C and FORTRAN77. + Information provided by: Shirley Kumamoto (shirleyk@qualix.com) 2.2. Microsoft C7 compiler _ _ _________ __ ________ + Platforms: DOS and Windows ( When run in Windows it makes use of Windows virtual memory ). + Commercial software Available from: Microsoft Corporation One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052-6399 Voice: 206-882-8080 Fax: 206-883-8101 Telex: 160520 + $139 upgrade price from any[?] vendor's C or C++ com- piler + Complete support in both C and C++ for each of the fol- lowing - Windows 3.1 SDK - Free copy of Qualitas [DPMI/LIM EMS] "386-Max" memory maximizer - Microsoft Foundation Classes [the "Windows for C++" API and collection classes] - OLE [Object Linking and Embedding] APIs - Pen Computing APIs in both C and C++ - Multimedia APIs - Windows Debugging Version: GDI, Kernal, and User modules - p-code compression - GUI Setup Toolkit - 75,000 lines of sample code - Zoom-In tool - Heapwalker - Dialog Editor - Image Editor - Font Editor - Hotspot Editor - Spy - Stress tester - Wdeb386 -- test and debug DLLs and Windows apps - Bitmap compiler - Help Compiler - unrestricted pre-compiled headers - explicit and/or automatic unrestricted inlining - CodeView Debugger [with general C++ expression evaluation] . dual monitor . single monitor . monitor-in-a-window - Source Profiler - On-line help and documentation for the above - Over 5,000 pages of printed bound manuals + Information provided by: jimad@microsoft.com 2.3. Lucid C++ compiler Release 2.1 _ _ _____ _ ________ _______ _ _ + Platforms: SPARC/Sun compatibles + Commercial, Binary only distribution. Shipped with a version gdb which is available via ftp. Lucid Inc, 707 Laurel St., Menlo Park, CA 94025 Tel: 415-329-8400 Fax: 415-329-8480 email: lucid-info@lucid.com + Dual mode. -Xf for cfront compatibility. -XF for track- ing X3J16. No templates. No exception handling. + Single unit $1500 for commercial customers. Educational and volume discounts available. + Not a cfront port Significant Optimization + Information provided by: Jerry Schwarz (jss@lucid.com) 2.4. GNU CC (gcc) compiler Ver. 2.3.1 _ _ ___ __ ___ ________ ___ _ _ _ 2.4.1. GCC on UNIX _ _ _ ___ __ ____ + Platforms: Many platforms (native and cross) here is a list of some of them - Vaxes running BSD/ VMS or System V. - Intel 386 PCs running system V. - Sequent with Intel 386 processors. - Sun-2, Sun-3, Sun-4, Sparc, Sun-386. - Alliant FX/8 computer. Currently, there are bugs in the support for floating point. Also note that Alliant's version of dbx does not manage to work with the output from GNU CC. - Convex c1 and C2 computers - HP 9000 series - ISI 68000 or 68020 system. - Sony NEWS 68020 system. - NeXT system. - AT&T 3b1, a.k.a. 7300 PC. - Sequent containing ns32000 processors. - Encore ns32000 system. - National Semiconductor ns32000 system. - Motorola 88000 processor. + Available in Freeware. Can be ftp'ed from prep.mit.ai.edu from the directory /pub/gnu. Free Software Foundation 675 Mass. Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Tel: (617) 876-3296 Email: fsf@prep.ai.mit.edu Commercial support (and enhancements) available from: Cygnus Support 814 University Avenue Palo Alto, CA 94301 Tel: +1 415 322 3811 Fax: +1 415 322 3270 email: info@cygnus.com Single unit $1500 for 1 year technical support. Educa- tional and volume discounts available. Cygnus Support is the official maintainer of GNU C++ for the Free Software Foundation. 1. In accordance with FSF CopyLeft, you are not allowed to upload this program to a distribution site unless that site also makes the FSF sources for these programs available. Please read the file COPYING for more details. FSF sources are available on prep.ai.mit.edu, and on either grape.ecs.clarkson.edu or sun.soe.clarkson.edu 2. If your application links in object modules that were written by FSF, your application counts as a "derived work" and must obey the provisions of the FSF Copyrights. See the file COPYING for details. Specifically, the C++ classes in libc.a and obstacks are FSF works that are covered by the GNU GPL. The mere act of compiling does not affect the copyright status of your program. + Closely follows the ANSI Standard. Templates imple- mented (though with some bugs), Exceptions not imple- mented according to the ANSI standard but is pretty okay! + Gcc 2.1 combines C, C++ and Objective C compiler in one executable. Lots of technical support is available from the USENET. Bugs and their fixes are normally reported in these groups. Some of the groups are gnu.g++.bugs, gnu.g++.announce, gnu.gcc.announce etc. GNU C++ works with GDB version 4.5 to provide C++ source-level debug- ging. + Information provided by tiemann@cygnus.com 2.4.2. GCC on DOS (djgpp) _ _ _ ___ __ ___ _____ + Platform: 80386-based IBM compatible PC or PS/2, approximately 4-5Mb of hard drive space, and 512K RAM. + Available in Freeware may be ftp'ed from: host: grape.ecs.clarkson.edu login: ftp password: send your e-mail address directory: ftp/pub/msdos/djgpp As a convenience to non-FTP users, djgpp is also stored on Clarkson's archive server, sun.soe.clarkson.edu. To access the archive server, do this: mail archive-server@sun.soe.clarkson.edu Subject: <none> help index msdos/djgpp ^D For other copyright ( or copyleft ) instructions please see the previous subsection. + This package contains a 32-bit 80386 DOS extender with symbolic debugger, a C/C++ compiler with utilities, development libraries, and source code. It generates full 32-bit programs and supports full virtual memory with paging to disk. Supported Wares: - Up to 128M of extended memory (expanded under VCPI) - Up to 128M of disk space used for swapping - SuperVGA 256-color mode up to 1024x768 - 80387 - XMS & VDISK memory allocation strategies - VCPI programs, such as QEMM and 386MAX Unsupported: - DPMI programs, such as Windows 3.0 - Multiprocessing (fork()) + Information provided by praetzel@sunee.waterloo.edu 2.4.3. NetComments _ _ _ ___________ From: Eric (praetzel@tesla.waterloo.edu) Re: The DOS port of GCC (called djgcc). Basically its great. It is the only (free or reasonably priced) C/C++ compiler that allows you to access upto 128meg easily. The optimization and code generated is much better than Borland and the 386 code runs upto 30% faster for simple math. - There is a group on usenet for problems, announcements (name = ???) - I believe that the graphics is done with late linking (I have not gotten it to work yet) which is a bit of a pain for the S/W I have been writing (it trys to detect what the video HW is from a variety of 16 mfg's). - It does not have an extensive debugger/profiler like Borland but I am sure that it may already be done or on its way. - Being able to access that much memory (and it will swap to disk so you don't have to worry about that either) and all of the proven GCC optimizing etc make it very useful for anyone who need access to > 640k (like when I was doing a lot of matrix work a while ago). I hope this helps. - Eric From: Kai Henningsen(Kai_Henningsen@ms.maus.de) Re: Why some PC C compilers ar..... kr> Von : kjb@cgl.rmit.oz.au (Fr, 15.05.92 03:30) kr> Name: Kendall Bennett kr> Box : RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia. kr> MId : <kjb.705897037@godzilla.cgl.citri.edu.au> kr> RId : <92-05-062@gnusenet.comp.compilers> kr> thing I did when I first installed DJGPP for my kr> PC (running under DOS naturally) was to run tests kr> on this program. It took about twice as long or more kr> to compile under DJGPP, and the resulting program ran kr> horrendously slow. I set up file approx. 1Mb in size, kr> to be translated, and the times were... kr> BC++: 9.2 seconds kr> DJGPP: > 40 seconds I'm not astonished. Did you look at how DJGPP does I/O? No? Don't look there, you might get nightmares! :-) What it does is, first, everything goes through the DJ/GNU/ BSD-Libraries; then, when it arrives at the actual read()/ write(), it calls an interrupt which is intercepted by the driver. The driver, in turn, calls Borland's read()/write() routines, which may even do a (very slow) cr/lf<->lf translation. No wonder it's slow. By the way, last I checked, the same handling is what broke timezone handling for DJGPP: because it's broken in Borland's Turbo C. In both cases, double libs make the problem much worse. MfG Kai 2.5. AT&T C++ C-front Translator Ver. 3.0 _ _ __ _ _ _ _____ __________ ___ _ _ + Platforms: UNIX + Commercial. + Commercial Software UNIX System Laboratories Europe Ltd. International House Ealing Broadway London W5 5DB England telephone: +44-(0)81-567 7711 facsimile: +44-(0)81-567 2420 US phone: 1-800-828-UNIX + Compatable with the proposed ANSI standard. Exceptions not implemented as ANSI proposal. + Price - unknown. 2.6. Zortech C++ Version 2.1 _ _ _______ _ _______ _ _ + Platforms: Dos, OS/2, Unix 386 and MachIntosh + Commercial software available from: Zortech Inc. 4-C Gill street Woburn MA 01801 USA Tel: (617) 646-6703 Fax: (617) 643-7969 in EUROPE: Zortech ltd 106-108 Powis Street London SE18 6LU Tel: 44+ 81-316-7777 Fax: 44+ 81-316-4138 + From $199.95 to $450 + This is a native compiler and is shipped with a source level debugger, a set of classes and a lot of tools (class browser, Extended memory manager, etc...). + Taken from the previous C++ product list (last update April 1991) 2.6.1. NetComments _ _ _ ___________ From: LANG@129.69.123.1 (MARTIN LANG) in comp.lang.c++ Message-ID: <1992Apr29.111100.2400@news.uni-stuttgart.de> Obviosly some users of the Zortech compiler for SCO do not agree with me. I want to add some comments now. 1. I agree that the release 2.1 of the compiler has some unpleasant "features",e.g. stopping with internal errors, only the old stream library is availble, and some incompatibilities with the language standard. A few weeks ago, I tested the beta version of the release 3.0. It seems that this release corresponds to the DOS compiler 3.04. Most of the problems of the old 2.1 release have been removed. I don't know when the new compiler will be available, but I think it will be in the near future. (that's only my personal opinion.) Sorry, when I said that I am very confident with the Zortech compiler I had the release 3.0 in mind and not the old 2.1. 2. I agree that there is a great need for a debugger, since using Codeview is very inconvenient. I don't know if Zortech will ship the debugger with the new release, but there is one way how programs can be debugged anyhow. It is the way I go and it worked fine even for large projects. The programs are developed and debugged under DOS using the Zortech tools. Finally they only have to be recompiled under SCO. Of course that's not the bestsolution, but I like the Zortech compilers because they are native compilers and the are very fast. 3. I have discussed with many people from Symantec and all of them said, that all compilers will be supported (DOS, MAC, SCO). 2.7. SCO/C++ 3.0 _ _ ___ _ _ _ + On 386 boxes (SCO Unix) + Commercial product from SCO Canada, Inc. (formerly HCR Corporation) 130 Bloor Street West, 10th floor Toronto, Ontario Canada M5S 1N5 Tel: (416) 922-1937 Fax: (416) 922-8397 + Price unknown + SCO's port of cfront 2.1 shipped with a source level debugger (dbXtra) with windowing features and a Motif interface. Also shipped with InterViews and NIHCL (see Libraries). On 386 boxes (SCO Unix). + Taken from the previous C++ product list (last update April 1991)