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- From: schmidt@uxmail.ust.hk (DR. ROY SCHMIDT)
- Subject: RE: Inappropraite articles -- README needed?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.014712.1026@uxmail.ust.hk>
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- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:47:12 GMT
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- Subject: Re: inappropriate articles - Readme needed?
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- In article <memo.764565@cix.compulink.co.uk> rwhitehead@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
- >> I would like someone else to do this, since I have trouble writing at
- >> the appropriate level. The README should primarily ensure that
- >> inappropriate articles are not posted, and then refer readers to the
- >> "Introduction to comp.groupware" for more information. I can arrange for
- >> the actual posting if preferred.
- >
- >How about posting the README instead of the Introduction? No other group I
- >download finds it necessary to go into such detail at such frequent
- >intervals. Furthermore, nobody I know who reads this group (and that's not
- >just in the UK) finds the Introduction anything other than a pain in the
- >backside.
- >
- >Do the decent thing, David, and send it to the knacker's yard. 8->
- >
- >Roger
-
- Hear, hear!
-
- David, who defines "inappropriate"? Is it inappropriate for
- students to seek knowledge through an alternative source? Do we have to
- have some special badge or permit before we can post appropriate
- articles? Have you ever consider the possibility that your definition
- of appropriate (or groupware for that matter) might be too narrow?
-
- Are you trying to save our precious time at the expense of throttling
- the free exchange of ideas?
-
- Note the very low volume of postings to this group. I wonder why such a
- group even exists if no one dares (or cares) to post to it. Here we
- have a forum where researchers and practitioners from around the world
- can share experiences and ideas about a field that is at the forefront
- of innovation. Yet you, David, point with pride to the low volume of
- postings. You reason that the low volume denotes quality rather than
- quantity.
-
- I guess you would say that, since about 25% of the postings are your
- "Introduction" :-)! I must say I was not impressed when I read it.
-
- BTW, since some of us did indeed answer the students' questions (I for
- one, sent direct mail rather than posting when the answer was rather
- simplistic) I would say that is an indication that we had no particular
- objection to the posts. Actually, I was beginning to wonder about the
- competency of American University's IS faculty if the students had to
- ask such things to the world ;->.
-
- You say you are archiving postings and compiling some sort of journal
- for publication. Who are the referees for this archiving? Don't tell
- me that you alone decide what is appropriate for inclusion in this
- journal??? I don't want to be rude, but David, you are begging for such
- sentiment among those who pariticpate in this forum.
-
- I can see that by holding the decision of what gets included in the
- journal over the heads of posters, you can hold some amount of fear of
- posting this sort of note. But, personally, considering the fact that I
- have not seen much worthwhile on this group for several months, I would
- say that your journal is in danger of being too slim and too narrowly
- focussed.
-
- If you are going to do this right, how about an editorial panel? Set up
- "departmental" editors. Trim your introduction to an explanation of
- goals, a list of deparments and editors, and an appeal to readers of the
- group to become reviewers. Each time some "appropriate" material is
- posted, assign an editor to that stream. Review the stream as a piece
- of work. If the reviewers and the editor agree that the stream is
- appropriate, then it gets included in the hardcopy journal.
-
- If you treat the posting of articles here the same as if the articles
- had been submitted to a journal for consideration of publication, then
- you would certainly attract some high quality posts. By refereeing the
- process and putting the final results in hardcopy (and posting the table
- of contents), you would motivate posters to get serious about this
- outlet for their work.
-
- Above is just my views off the top of my head. I won't get a heart
- attack and die if someone says it's a rotten idea. I would certainly
- get a little upset if the thought police told me that my posting was
- "inappropriate" :-( !
-
- Well, I guess I have done my part to waste hundreds of hours of
- attention time throughout the world. Now, GET BACK TO WORK! :-)
-
-
- --
- Roy Schmidt schmidt@usthk.ust.hk schmidt@uxmail.ust.hk
- Business Information Systems Dept, School of Business and Management
- The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
- Clearwater Bay, Sai Kung, HONG KONG
-