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- From: kers@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Chris Dollin)
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:03:05 GMT
- Subject: Re: how to advocate new software/hardware features (Re: Hardware Support for Numeric Algorithms)
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- I've (tried to) direct followups away from comp.arch.
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- In article ... tmb@arolla.idiap.ch (Thomas M. Breuel) writes:
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- The problem is that user-defined operators cause problems about which
- the compiler cannot warn reliably. For the rationale and some examples
- of what can go wrong, see the ARM, p331.
-
- It says ``This extension, however, would imply a significant extension of
- complexity of syntax analysis and an uncertain gain in readability.'' It then
- remarks that precedence and associativity must either be fixed for all
- user-defined operators, or a mechanism must be present to define them; it is
- this latter that is the tricky point. (The ``complexity of syntax analysis''
- argument seems to be terribly weak, given that (a) Stroustrup is not stupid,
- and (b) the rest of C++.)
-
- There are many other things compilers cannot warn about reliably, or indeed, at
- all; writing ``-'' when one meant ``+'', forgetting to increment a counter,
- calling the wrong function (or not calling the right one), writing ``0'' when
- style demands FALSE or NULL_String, and so on. Has anyone done some *research*
- on the issue, rather than making *-informed speculation?
-
- [My own speculation is that it's all perfectly sensible provided you're
- prepared to forgo the ability to define your own precedence and associativity,
- and that operator tokens are recognisable by spelling just as identifiers are.
- What would be handy, I think, is a way of making *any* dyadic function into an
- infix with a simple syntactic mark, eg, ``E1 @F E2''.]
- --
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- Regards | "Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be
- Kers. | a violent psychopath who knows where you live." - John F. Woods
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