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- From: reiter@aisb.ed.ac.uk
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- Subject: Grad school comments
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.150247.3613@aisb.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 15:02:47 GMT
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- Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland
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- I have been sporadically reading some of the comments on AI grad schools,
- and thought I would contribute a few random observations, the main thrust of
- which is that there's more to choosing a grad school than the quality of
- research done by its faculty.
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- 1) Environment: Different schools can have very different atmospheres, e.g.,
-
- Competitiveness - are grad students supposed to compete with each other?
- Politicization - is the dept split by feuds between faculty members?
- Student status - are grad students respected members of the community?
- Theory vs. Systems-Building - what's the emphasis of the dept?
-
- Obviously different people differ in what they want (e.g., some flourish
- competitive atmospheres and some don't). Decide what you want, and then ask
- current students at an institution what the atmosphere is like.
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- 2) Graduation rate: The percentage of students who actually finish a Ph.D
- program varies widely in different institutions, as does the amount of time the
- average student takes to complete the Ph.D. Find out what percentage of
- students actually finish, and how long the average student actually takes to
- graduate (don't be fobbed off with `its a four-year program', ask how long
- recent graduates have actually taken). If the drop-out or time-to-completion
- figures seem high, try to find out why - I'd suggest asking current (or ex-)
- students instead of faculty, as the latter are likely (especially in troubled
- institutions) to repeat explanations that have been designed to keep the dean
- happy while avoiding putting any blame on politically powerful professors,
- and such explanations may bear little connection with reality.
-
-
- 3) Advisors. Some people who are wonderful researchers are also lousy
- advisors, and some people with so-so research records are superb at helping
- students develop their ideas and get through the Ph.D process. Some advisors
- may also be good at dealing with white male (or whatever) students, but have
- difficulties taking women or minorities seriously. If you have a specific
- advisor in mind, try to find out (preferably from a current or past student)
- what he/she is like as an advisor as well as a researcher.
-
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- 4) Contingency planning. Grad school rarely works out as planned, and some
- things worth looking for are:
- - several people you'd like to work for, so you won't be stuck if
- things don't work out between you and the advisor you'd most
- like to have.
- - programs that give you an M.Sc or some other degree part-way through.
- so you'll have something if you don't finish the Ph.D program.
-
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- 5) Happy students. Are the current students at the institution you're thinking
- of attending happy or miserable? Grad school is a significant chunk of your
- life, and it would be nice to be happy during it; you'll also do better
- research if you're happy.
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-
- 6) Most important of all. Are you sure you really, *really*, want to go to
- grad school? A lot of people drift into a Ph.D program because its expected
- of them by their parents, undergrad professors, etc., or simply because its
- the course of least resistance (puts off that horrible process of actually
- having to find a job in the real world). But an academic career is *not*
- for everyone, and there are a lot of other options available, especially for
- the computer-literate. Be sure that *you* are the one who wants to go to
- grad school, not your parents or your undergrad mentor.
- Also, realize that very few of the people who start Ph.D programs end up
- 20 years later as tenured professors at major research institutions; I suspect
- that the `ultimate success' rate even for students at the best universities
- is less than 10%. A lot of people drop out of Ph.D programs, a lot of the
- people who finish drift into something non-academic within a few years of
- finishing, and a lot of people who do spend 7 years as junior faculty members
- are thrown out onto the street when the time for tenure decisions comes. Ask
- yourself the following question - if you spend 10-15 years as a student and
- junior faculty member, and are then denied tenure and end up spending the rest
- of your life doing something completely different, will you (a) be grateful
- that you were able to spend at least some portion of your life doing research,
- or (b) will you be unhappy at all those wasted years that you could have spent
- developing your ultimate career? If, in your heart of hearts, you think you
- would fall into category (b) (and be honest with yourself), I'd suggest
- thinking again about whether a Ph.D is the right thing for you.
-
- Ehud Reiter
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- Ehud Reiter
- (e.reiter@edinburgh.ac.uk)
-