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- From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
- Subject: Re: Supermodels contribute to spiraling low self esteem?
- Message-ID: <Bxxt1J.CLF@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
- Organization: Quake Public Access
- References: <1992Nov12.182022.9195@tellab5.tellabs.com> <BxsH9p.6FL@quake.sylmar.ca.us> <1992Nov17.185540.19815@dragon.acadiau.ca>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:22:30 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.185540.19815@dragon.acadiau.ca> 891666t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trish Turliuk) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov12.182022.9195@tellab5.tellabs.com> chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) writes:
- >>>In article <1dsbfhINN8hi@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer) writes:
- >>>> If someone makes you feel relatively unattractive by what they say
- >>>> or do, and then you happen to see some poster of some supermodel...
-
- >>Perhaps feminists would feel better about themselves if the only pictures
- >>in magazine ads, posters, etc. were of ugly sloppy pathetic women. Is that
- >>a solution to their self-esteem problems? I doubt it.
-
- >REAL WOMEN!!! that's all- no more, no less (and for the record, how can one
- >tell that an ugly and sloppy woman is *pathetic*?)
-
- Sigh. Perhaps you ought to try reading wqhat I wrote rather than inserting
- your prejudices about what I think into my mouth. I merely asked if
- having women in ads who were ugly AND sloppy AND pathetic, I said nothing
- about whether I think that is the average woman, or that ugliness implies
- being pathetic, or that sloppiness implies being pathetic.
-
- Why is it that you are unable to understand a simple argument of this kind
- without getting side-tracked by your idea of what I must be thinking?
-
- By the way, of what benefit would it be to the companies producing the ads if
- the people portrayed were not in some sense obviously admirable? Personally,
- I WANT to be attractive, neat, stong, rich, etc. If the message in an ad is
- "Use product X and you'll be like me." and the person I see isn't what I want
- to be like, why should I feel an inclination to listen further?
-
- --Brian
-