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- From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
- Subject: Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about:
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.144901.17238@athena.cs.uga.edu>
- Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
- References: <1992Nov17.143311.5467@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <bill.722026438@castor> <1992Nov18.223342.11374@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>
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- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:49:01 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov18.223342.11374@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
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- >Now we get to the real reason why gays want to be in the military. They
- >want to take showers with men so they can see a bunch of naked men's
- >bodies. Get a clue! The reason why men do not shower with women is
- >because the women feel self conscious. This is also why gays should
- >not shower with straights. The straights will feel self conscious. But
- >oh! I forgot! Straights are not a minority, so their feelings are not
- >taken into account.
- >
- >Ted
-
- I do think Ted has something here...something the top media folks have not
- discussed to my knowledge, and especially I do not see any headlines in
- papers over the issue.
-
- *Sexual Attraction: Men do not shower with women in the military
- because of various reasons, one of them being because of sexual attraction.
- Analogously, why would one want to allow for Men who are sexually attracted
- to Men shower together? The common response to this question is, "Give me a
- break, sex is not the complete focus of gay men, and they have much sense
- than to stare at other men sexually in the showers."
- Pat Schroeder responded this way on a national news show, but why
- did no one ask her, "Well Pat, how would you feel if 20 men took a shower
- next to you?" From a straigt perspective, this is quite analogous. The
- straigt man feels a bit conscious about being looked upon in a sexual manner
- by another man. Now, another anology...how would you straight men feel if
- you took an open shower along with 20 young women? From the gay
- perspective, it must be an apporpriate analogy. When we begin to look at it
- from this perspective, can we not see the difficulties that come to bear?
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- Ted Kalivoda (tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu)
- University of Georgia
- UCNS/Institute of Higher Ed.
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