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- Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 11:36:53 EST
- From: <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>
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- Newsgroups: alt.pagan
- Subject: Re: Guns & self defense
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- In article <Bxz1q0.HA7@access.digex.com>, corun@access.digex.com (Corun
- MacAnndra) says:
- >
- >This is true. But do you really believe that you'll be able to use that
- >fraction of a second to draw a gun, release the safety, cock it (if
- >necessary),
- >and fire it effectively any faster than you could use hand to hand combat
- >techniques, or, better yet, run away and scream your bloody head off?
-
- There is an old saying to the effect that "One with an experience is
- never at the mercy of one with an opinion". I have been in precisely
- the situation described, faced by thugs who burst into an area
- everyone thought "safe". I was armed. I survived.
-
- I am rather disheartened by the knee-jerk response people often offer
- as a proposed solution for anyone caught in such a situation,i.e.,
- "run away and scream". This is wrongheaded thinking and elitist,
- in that it completely ignores the millions of aged and/or disabled
- persons in America who CANNOT run away. They simply physically cannot.
- For similar reasons, martial arts *philosophy* can be of benefit
- to this segment of the population, but a great many of them are
- physically unable to practice the various hand-to-hand combat techniques.
- What are we to do, write these people off as "expendable" or as,
- to use Mao Tse-Tung's term, "useless eaters"? I, for one, am not
- willing to do that.
-
- >
- >But she's right. Why get upset about that?
-
- But of course she is - in her own fantasy world view. A better question
- would be how might we help alleviate whatever stresses bring about
- such a distorted interpretation?
- >
- >But she's not comparing guns to other implements that can be used as weapons,
- >she's pointing out how people get caught up in glorifying guns to the point
- >of near deification. Again, she's right. Guns are made for one thing, killing.
- Oh, please. The silly "guns are for killing" whine has already
- been adequately debunked by other posters. The cardboard scenario
- at an imaginary gun shop only lends credence to points I have
- already made.
-
-
- >I got a good chuckle...
- >
- Out of the civil rights movement? I fear I cannot see the humor.
- >
- >Let's start a conversation about how to cure the ills of society. Once we've
- >cured the psychoses and neuroses that make the rapists and murders, once
- >we've abolished the causes of violent crimes, then the rest will take care
- >of itself. But this continuous bantering about whether a gun is an assault
- >rifle or a hunting rifle and the advantages of one type over another is
- >senseless and futile. Don't ban the guns, ban the uses to which they are put.
- >Greater social consciousness is what's needed, and you can't regulate that
- >with a bunch of laws.
-
- With that I wholeheartedly agree.
-
- WKG
-