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- From: holzman@fnalno.fnal.gov
- Subject: Re: Scummy behavior of pagan malessho pro
- References: <1992Nov16.102307.44819@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
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- Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:43:50 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.102307.44819@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>,
- kumagic@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Stephen R. Figgins) writes:
- > Some examples within and without the community.
- [snip]
- >
- > I can think of plenty more, these just leapt to mind as examples of
- > men's scummy behavior both within and without our community. I would
- > be interested in hearing others examples of men's scummy behavior
- > within the pagan community. Or am I the only one who notices this
- > stuff? It has been said that men within the pagan community were
- > different than men outside the community in their relations to women.
- > I have said this is not very true. What do others think?
-
- No argument, what you have described is pretty scummy. What you miss is that
- while those acts entitle you to label those *individual men* who engage in them
- as scummy, it is bigotry to conclude that *all* men, or even *all pagan* men
- are scummy.
-
- In one stroke, you totally invalidate all the pagan men, myself and I assume
- yourself, who do *not* abuse our wives and lovers, who are *not* drunk
- assholes, who do *not* simply sit around at gatherings and gawk, who *do* own
- and enjoy artwork with men as naked as the women, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
-
- If you want to expand it to the outside world, you are invalidating the men who
- don't sexually harass, or give out awards based on who wears the tightest
- skirt.
-
- --
- Daniel B. Holzman | Eight Words the Witch's Rede Fufill:
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- | All Acts of Love and Pleasure are
- Love doesn't subtract, | Her Rituals
- it multiplies - Heinlein |
- | Speak the Word.
- Disclaimer: Fermilab's far too large to have an opinion, let alone mine.
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