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- From: grimoire@byron.u.washington.edu (John Greer)
- Subject: Re: Myself and Magick
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.231407.19410@u.washington.edu>
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- References: <JOSHUA.92Nov22084718@bailey.cpac.washington.edu> <2005@lysator.liu.se> <JOSHUA.92Nov23101743@bailey.cpac.washington.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:14:07 GMT
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- In article <JOSHUA.92Nov23101743@bailey.cpac.washington.edu> joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller) writes:
- >
- >In article <2005@lysator.liu.se> ceci@lysator.liu.se (Cecilia Henningsson)
- >writes:
- >
- >>I write:
- >
- >> >[my comment about past life memories deleted].
- >
- >> Is it really? Why not try to tolerate uncertainty and simply state
- >> that the so called past-life regressions might be a way for some but
- >> not all people to cope better with their current lives, leaving aside
- >> the question of truthfulness, and emphazising the question of
- >> helpfulness?
- >
- >because you end up with these losers running around talking how they were
- >Egyptian Princesses and Knights of the Table Round with no evidence what-
- >soever besides the fact that it sounds good and makes their tawdry selves
- >appear to be slightly more interesting than the barely sapient helminths
- >that they actually are. it is esthetically displeasing, and it tends to
- >give the casual observer the idea that magick generally is a method of
- >mental masturbation indulged in by twits.
- >
- >josh
- >
-
- True -- and for a change, I find myself agreeing with Josh's curmudgeonly
- tone. I have seen more nonsense being bandied about on the subject of
- past-life regressions, and past lives generally, than on any other topic
- except Atlantis -- and more blatant ego-masturbation on the subject than
- on any other topic whatsoever.
-
- At the same time, I've encountered a number of cases of apparent past-life
- memories, a few of them my own, that I am by no means closed to the idea...
-
- Some pointers that may be of use:
-
- a) Most of the people at any given time in history (the present very much
- included) led quiet, rather boring lives far from the centers of power
- and the places where history was being made. Their involvement in wars
- and great changes generally added up to being killed by a stray arrow, and
- things of that sort. "Memories" of the variety that read like trashy
- historical romances are 99.999% likely to be garbage. _Smelly_ garbage.
- Put another way: If you were Cleopatra, Attila the Hun, and Louis XIV,
- what the hell are you doing now as a nobody from suburban America with
- all the charisma of a squashed possum?
-
- b) I'm not sure if this matches other people's experience, but the best
- cases I've encountered all had to do with apparent lives within a few
- incarnations of the present one. Memories of Los Angeles in the 1940's
- seem to be more honest, not to mention more checkable, than memories of
- Atlantis circa 12,000 B.C.... Assuming that this kind of memory works
- like the ordinary kind, this would seem to follow; which do you recall
- better -- last week, or the same week in 1982?
-
- c) There does seem to be some sort of connection between unexplained fears
- and emotional reactions, on the one hand, and apparent memories, on the
- other. Fairly often, these things _hurt_ when they come out, and the
- person who recalls them is rarely likely to parade them around. If the
- chief emotional response an apparent memory generates is the warm glow of
- a stroked ego, you know what you're dealing with.
-
- ...And a final piece of advice: When dealing with these, it seems to
- work best to write down every detail, go over the whole thing obsessively
- in your mind, use whatever esoteric tools you have to bring through as
- much as possible -- and then stick it in a drawer for at least six months
- before looking at it or thinking about it again. Time is a great source
- of perspective, and can save you from making a jackass of yourself.
-
- -- John Michael Greer
- grimoire@u.washington.edu
-
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