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- From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
- Newsgroups: alt.magick
- Subject: Re: Women Vs Men
- Message-ID: <lglhtgINN2pv@news.bbn.com>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 22:46:08 GMT
- References: <memo.750837@cix.compulink.co.uk>
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- In article <memo.750837@cix.compulink.co.uk>, shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith) writes:
- > oispeggy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) writes..
- >
- >
- > [..lots about womes roles in mediaval religious life deleted..]
- >
- > What is the optimum role that you consider a medaiaeval woman could
- > have held, given that any normal healthy woman with an active sex
- > life could expect to be pregnant, or nursing a child, more or less
- > continuously from her mid-teens to her mid thirties?
-
- You're a victim of catholicism here. Even in medieval times there were
- choices between celibacy and constant pregnancy. There are many forms
- of birth control available even in those cultures, ranging from oral
- or anal sex to the riskier ones like herbal remedies or nursing. While
- a lot of these (like nursing) aren't 100%, they can mean the difference
- between 9 kids over the course of your childbearing years and 2 or 3.
- I once read about a study where using olive oil and salt as a spermicide
- compared favorably with most modern forms of birth control. I always
- wanted to try that sometime when I didn't care if it failed. (The study
- is mentioned in Reay Tannahill's _History of Sex_, I could be more
- specific if anyone cares.) And if 100% effectiveness is required,
- then there's always what the Church liked to call sodomy. This isn't
- a matter of technology -- any culture that realizes that sex causes babies
- realizes soon after that permutations are going to prevent pregnancy.
- And usually some form of primitive barrier or spermicidal contraceptives
- follow thereafter (although some of what they used sounds pretty gross.)
- And then usually some type of herbal morning-after pill. It's just
- that in the supposedly advanced European culture the information was
- suppressed, and sodomy was SODOMY after all, so you have this artificial
- choice between celibacy and constant child-bearing. Not technological
- at all, just cultural. So women have really always had the same biological
- freedom (or nearly the same) that they have now and that can't be used as
- an excuse for past behavior at all.
-
- Dawn
-
- Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
- "Folk Song" by Bongwater
-