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- From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
- Subject: Re: A new (very simple) bot solution
- In-Reply-To: Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:59:35 GMT
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:13:22 GMT
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- Dan> == Dan Weiss <Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu>
-
- Dan> Ok. Here it is (take a deep breath.)
- Dan> Make the IRC network only allow one login from each address.
-
- Dan> Now, while I know there would still be bots and cyborgs, at least
- Dan> half of them would disappear immediatley. Bots with a legitimate
- Dan> value could always get thier own login (like nicksrv).
-
- Dan> If anyone can give me one good reason why they need to be logged
- Dan> on to IRC two or more times simultaniously, I would like to hear
- Dan> it. Right now, though, I can only believe that logging on to the
- Dan> IRC mulitple times at the same time of day is just a selfish waste
- Dan> of network resources.
-
- Oh, this is easy. Try this from your local UNIX box (it's telnet to a
- port, so distort for VMS or whatever):
-
- the things in ()s are what YOU type!
-
- (telnet your.local.server 6667)
- Trying 123.45.67.89
- Connected to your.local.server.
- Escape character is '^]'.
- (user foobar x x Mister Foo)
- (nick MrFoo)
-
- You're now signed onto irc. If you do a whois on yourself, you'll see:
-
- (whois MrFoo)
- :your.local.server 311 MrFoo MrFoo foobar yourhost.dom.ain * :Mister Foo
- :your.local.server 312 MrFoo MrFoo your.local.server your.local.m-line
- :your.local.server 317 MrFoo MrFoo 0 :is the idle time for this user
- :your.local.server 318 MrFoo MrFoo :* End of /WHOIS list.
-
-
- (quit)
-
- Seen from a real client:
- *** MrFoo is foobar@yourhost.dom.ain (Mister Foo)
- *** on irc via server your.local.server (your.local.m-line)
- - Server)
- *** * End of /WHOIS list.
-
- Yeah, it's *that* easy to fake a user@host.
-
-
- So tell me, how will that stop places? I mean, until there's an option
- like forcing people to run identd or be marked UNAUTH then we're stuck
- with people being able to get around any kind of limit set like that.
-
- And it won't stop crackers who have broke root from setting up random
- accounts.
-
- --Helen
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