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- From: schaker@carina.unm.edu (Stefan Chakerian)
- Subject: Re: stupid floppy tricks
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:08:20 GMT
- Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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- >>> OK, for all of you people out there with Apple ][ disk drives, why
- >>> don't 5.25" High Density disks work in the drives?
- >>
- >>Just think about the density of information you're dealing with here.
- >>Even if you could produce the proper signals in the write head, you
- >>couldn't lay them down on the disk surface accurately enough. It
- >>would be like trying to type by hitting the keys with a basketball.
-
- survey says? Eeeench.
-
- >I think Mike meant "why can't you use a high-density disk in a
- >low-density drive (and get *low-density* storage on it)". And he
- >was on the right track with the answer; the magnetic coating on
- >the HD disk has a much higher remanence (or is it coercivity?)
- >which means that the magnetic flux produced by the low-density
- >drive heads is too weak to affect it (or at least, too weak to
- >make a reliable recording).
- >
- >The opposite also applies; trying to write a low-density floppy
- >on a high density drive usually doesn't work well, because the
- >field produced by the head is so strong that it alters several
- >bits at a time.
-
- If this were true, why can MSDOS read several? Perhaps it's because
- they use different drives, but it draws a good parallel.
-
- I had wondered this a long time ago, and after some digging through
- disk specs, came to the conclusion that there are guard tracks between
- tracks on floppies. When you try to use a high density disk, you're
- trying to write directly over one of these guard tracks, which is
- designed to have poor writing characteristics to avoid bleeding between
- tracks. Of course, I don't have the data to justify this anymore, so
- my high-school discovery is certainly open to refutation.
-
- ObHack: converting RDOS programs to ProDOS so I could use my harddrive.
- Unfortunately, I never figured out how to rewrite the roms on the
- drive to deal with prodos. Gotta love those corvus drives. 10Mb,
- bigger and heavier than the computer itself.
-
- anyone want to buy an old Apple //e? Tons of software + originals,
- 10 mb hd, color monitor, 5 drives (4-drive controller, 2 drive controller),
- printer + grappler, 1200 bps Apple cat, Z80 card w/wordstar (doubles as
- a fast ramdisk), NMI/Reset card, more. Heavily worn keycaps.
- If you order now, i can throw in a mockingboard.
-
- Damn, i wish I had all that money back to spend on a new computer.
- It must've cost well over $3000, possible over $5000. Sonofabitch.
-
- stef
-
- --
- _---_ Stefan Chakerian
- / o o \ schaker@triton.unm.edu, schaker@unmb.bitnet
- | \___/ |
- \_____/ Have a nice day. Somewhere else.
-