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- Subject: Re: Drill Writing Programs???
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.015230.1@vax1.umkc.edu>
- From: cputnam@vax1.umkc.edu
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 07:52:30 GMT
- Sender: root@parsifal.umkc.edu (Parsifal Administration)
- References: <1992Nov10.195233.1@vax1.umkc.edu> <1992Nov11.204816.27017@watson.ibm.com>
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- In article <1992Nov11.204816.27017@watson.ibm.com>, owens@cyclops.cambridge.ibm.com () writes:
- > In article <1992Nov10.195233.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, cputnam@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
-
- > I've played a little with Pyware's program for the PC. (I think they
- > just ported thier original program for apples to the Mac to PCs) A
- > friend has used it extensively and loves it. It seems very
- > couter-intuitive about some things to me though.
- >
- > I've heard the Cavies use it... Anyone know for sure? (Any ex-Cavies
- > get computer generated drill charts last year?)
-
- I have a Pyware drill program for the Apple. I believe it is version 11.0.
- The program is OK, but it could be improved upon greatly, I think. So, I would
- still like to hear of any other programs out there for the IBM. BTW, how much
- does this cost, for the IBM? And what about the other disks you mention below
- (the ones to integrate music and stuff)?
-
- > Nice things:
- >
- > * allows you to preview an animation of sets or a whole show
-
- This is the most important feature of a program, IMO. This is what really
- gives the edge to a program instead of by hand. You can actually SEE the drill
- in motion.
-
- > * will print out per-performer lists of field coordinates
- > * will draw perfect circles, curves, etc quicker than with pencil & paper
- > * will fit performers perfectly to a circle or curve very quickly
- > * can easily produce sub-sets between two written sets
- > * members can be represented by letters indicating instrument, etc
- > * pretty helpful customer support (according to my friend)
- > * you can get 2 other programs to maintain your music and membership lists
- > that are integrated (according to the advertisements... I haven't
- > seen them)
- >
- >
- > Not-so-nice things:
- >
- > * it crashes pretty frequently :)
-
- Do you know if they are trying to fix this problem (with another version)?
-
- > * as you use it little bits of stray crap and phantom members
- > accumulate on the screen (doesn't give you a warm-and-fuzzy
- > about the quality of the programming :) )
-
- This doesn't mean Phantom Regiment members (just in case).
-
- > * doesn't think of the show in terms of "sets"... only counts
- > Once you draw a set it's up to you to remember that it's on count
- > 196 of the show if you want to go back to it or print it etc. My
- > friend who uses it has lots of little pieces of paper sitting near
- > his computer that have lists like... "16,32,64,72,88,120...".
- > "Ok kids, take it from set 357!" sounds pretty funny too.
-
- YEah, when I was working with my Pyware program, I had a little notebook with
- all of my numbers and stuff jotted down. Gets confusing after a bit, trying to
- remember what number means what. Especially if you have two shows going on.
-
- > * the animation is cruder than it needs to be
-
- The BIGGEST problem with my program. Animation on it SUCKS!!!! That's why I
- was hoping to find an IBM program. One that might take advantage of VGA and
- Super-VGA monitors.
-
- > * there are some very awkward and couter-intuitive steps you must go
- > through when drawing sets/adding members/finishing sets (I can't
- > describe it... you'd have to see it)
- > * it doesn't remember you're prefered settings of options... making you
- > have to reset maybe dozens of setting every time you create, edit,
- > or print a set or show
- > * it uses it's own screen management style which takes some getting used
- > to (if it aint better than the standard... please don't change it :) )
- > * the print-outs can be hard to read (numbers obscuring each other)
- > * the print-outs are not entirely accurate... if you tell it to print a
- > dot for every 8-to-5 pace... they are not equally spaced.
- >
- >
- > All-in-all you'd have to try it yourself. My own drill writing program
- > will be much better when completed :)
-
- Well, hurry up and finish it! I need a copy!!
-
- BTW, do you know if this IBM version has a winterguard setting? With
- basketball markings? I'd really like to find one that does. Maybe even with
- just the half-court line and 10 to 15 step size.
-
- Know of any other programs out there?
-
- Chris
- '93 Star?????
- Baritones
- 'Cause they don't let trombones into DCI (yet)! :(
-