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- Subject: Re: Science and god: Are they incompatible? If so, why?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.222747.14300@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
- From: jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (P'relan)
- Date: 17 Nov 92 22:27:47 -0500
- References: <1e3lqaINNadv@gap.caltech.edu> <1992Nov16.072039.3429@midway.uchicago.edu> <1e88haINN5jv@gap.caltech.edu> <1992Nov16.214120.27547@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov16.214120.27547@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:
- > "Granted, science cannot operate in a world which is not
- > uniformly lawful a large majority of the time. But the existence of a
- > being or beings with the power to violate those laws does not
- > invalidate science (though it might circumscribe its scope) so long as
- > that power is not used to violate laws too often.
-
- No, even one violation of the physical laws invalidates science. Extremely
- limited intervention does not prevent science from being *useful* though it
- remove any chance of it being correct which may be what you meant by not
- invalidating science.
-
- > and the fact that a particular electron's location is
- > indeterminable doesn't prevent us from determining the location of a
- > lightning bolt."
-
- The electron is obeying extremely precise physical laws, for which we can make
- far better measurements than we usually can make in classical physics. The
- fact that these laws are statistical and not classically deterministic in
- nature does not matter as long as the electron *always* obeys the physical
- laws.
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