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flesh-eaters take lives, their own included

Posted by: Thomas Hall ( UK ) on June 03, 1996 at 17:42:04:

In Reply to: vegetarians - get a life posted by Terry Hobbs on May 22, 1996 at 16:26:02:

: You vegetarians make me sick.
: What gives you the right to tell us what to eat?

I am a vegetarian (vegan is fact) and I don't think I am in the
habit of telling anyone what they can or can't eat. I do however
try at every occasion to inform people about the consequences
of their dietary and purchasing choices.

Now compare that with the marketing and advertising by the likes
of the meat and diary industry. With 16 million pounds spent by
the British Meat Information organisation in a single year on
advertising campaigns such as 'meat to life' and 'recipe of love',
who is telling who what to eat?

: Don't you understand that man has always eaten meat and that
: eating meat is essential for good health?

Two points here; the fact that something has also ways occured
does not make it true that it is correct or ethical.
Murder, rape, war etc. are all things which 'man' has always
done and yet they are not things that we wish to continue and we
(generaly) try to prevent them from occuring.
Eating meat is not essential to good health, in fact there is
an increasing ammount of evidence to show the opposite. East a
meat centred diet increasing significantly the chance of suffering
from diseases such as heart disease, cancer of the colon, cancer
of the prostate, cancer of the bowel etc. You can find out about
the health issues relating to the consumption of animal products
on many many web site; I suggest you start with the Vegetarian
Society pages on health and nutrition.
http://www.veg.org/veg/Orgs/VegSocUK/Research/healthnu.html

: All you veggies will die weak and pale due to lack of protein
: and iron.

Yeah right, take a look at the facts before making such claims,
you will then find that all you flesh-eaters ARE dieing of
heart disease and cancer.

: If man stopped eating meat, what would happen to all the animals?

Like you care.. If and when humans stop exploiting animals, there
will have been a gradual decline in demand and thus the number of
animals bred for food etc. would have also been in decline. We are
NOT going to end up with cows roaming the streets etc.

: And how would we feed the worlds population?

We would feed people with plants. Eating plants is a much more
efficient way of using the land. Compare this: feed grain to
chickens and then chickens to people or feed the grain direct
to people. On average, you can feed 10 times the number of
people if you feed plants direct to people rather than using
the inefficent conversion of plant to meat by feeding the plants
to the animals first.
Again, there is plenty of information on this subject to be
found on the internet; the best places to look are
the Vegetarian Pages http://www.veg.org/veg/
and the ARRS http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/

: It's about time you lot started living in the real world!

Vegetarians do live in the real world;
a world where meat isn't created by the same machines that
produce the celophane and polystyrene trays that meat is
often supplied in, but inreality is a part of a once living,
feeling and suffering animal.
a world where leather doesn't grow on trees but is the
skin of a once living creature, a skin which represents upto
30% of the carcase 'value' of the animal to the meat industry.
a world where milk is a unwanted waste product of happy cows
but is infact the product of a forced pregnancy, intended for
the calf which is taken away at birth and raised for veal.

Terry, it is flesh-eaters like you that don't live in the real
world. You ignore the facts, you use language and packaging
to hide the true source of the flesh you consume. You even
employ others to do the killing so that you can enjoy your
meal without thought to the creature that you digest.



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