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- November 13, 1989
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- ParaNet Information Service (Denver, CO) -- In our
- continuing coverage of the remarkable revelations coming out of
- Las Vegas, Nevada, here is the next installment to the program
- aired on November 13, 1989 by television station KLAS-TV and
- George Knapp.
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- News Anchor persons:
-
- A former government scientist has alleged that the U.S.
- military is flying recovered UFOs at a secret base in the Nevada
- desert. The allegations about the secret facility near the Groom
- Mountains first surfaced on Eyewitness News on last Friday
- [November 10, 1989].
-
- Scientist Bob Lazar says that there are at least nine of the
- flying saucers being tested and that they were not built on
- Earth. George Knapp has more on the continuation of our series
- on UFOs.
-
-
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- Lazar: "Yeah. It was obvious it came from somewhere else, uh,
- other than Earth."
-
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- Scientist Bob Lazar was convinced that the technology he saw
- being tested at a secret base in the Nevada desert is of alien
- origin, and for Lazar the proof is, at least, partially in the
- furniture. One of the nine flying disks he says he saw at the
- base, which was designated S-4, looks exactly like this UFO
- photographed in Europe [Photo of UFO shown]. Lazar called it
- the "sport model."
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-
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- Lazar: "I gave everything names -- the top hat one and you know
- the jello mold and, uh, the sport model operated without any
- hitches at all. I mean, it looked new. If I knew what a new
- flying saucer looked like. One of them looked like it was hit
- with some sort of a projectile. It had a large hole in the
- bottom and a large hole in the top with the metal bent out like
- some sort of, you know, large caliber 4 or 5 inch had gone
- through it."
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-
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- Even before he saw the sport model operate, Lazar says, he
- suspected that the ship came from somewhere else. The
- realization slapped him in the face the first time he glimpsed
- the inside of the disk.
-
-
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- Lazar: "I got to look inside and it had really small chairs. I
- think that was the first confirmation I had. That was just a
- shocking thing because everytime before that I was able to label
- it. This is just a little advance that a group of scientists had
- formed and, you know, they're keeping it secret, and yeah, we
- could have built a big disk like that, and yeah, that's no
- problem, and, you know, we could have adapted the use(?) to make
- it fly, but why does it have little furniture inside? [garbled].
- And things began to click together just all too fast."
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- A few of the disks had been completely dismantled to find
- out how they worked, Lazar says, but others were fully
- operational. A Japanese TV network created this animated version
- of Lazar's story after his first interview with us aired in May
- [showing video]. Lazar says the dramatization is similar to a
- test flight he witnessed.
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-
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- Lazar: "The bottom of it glowed blue and began to hiss like any,
- like high voltage does on a round sphere. It's my impression
- that the reason that they're round and have no sharp edges is to
- contain the high voltage like, uh, if you've seen a high voltage
- system's insulators -- things are round or else you get a corona
- discharge. In either case, it began to hiss as in high voltage
- and it lifted off the ground quietly except for that little hiss
- in the background, and that stopped as soon as it reached about
- 20 or 30 feet."
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- Lazar says the test of the sport model was a short one --
- that it made only a few moves before setting back down. He
- didn't see who was actually flying the craft, but was very
- impressed, nonetheless.
-
-
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- Lazar: "Well, there's no action reaction system to it. There's
- no, like in a jet engine, exhaust gas being thrown out -- no
- propeller, no noise. It's just, for all intents and purposes,
- magic."
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- To Lazar's knowledge, the flying disks are not being used,
- for say, any flights to Jupiter. He said excessive caution and
- intense secrecy contributed to the plodding pace of the program
- and were a main source of his disenchantment.
-
-
-
- Lazar: "It's just unfair, outright, not to put it in the hands
- of the overall scientific community. There are people much more
- capable of dealing with this information, and by this time would
- have gotten a lot further along than this small select group of
- people working out in the middle of the desert. They don't even
- have the facilities, really, to completely analyze what they're
- dealing with."
-
-
-
- Gene Huff: "Well he was being quiet. If he kept me abreast of
- anything, he kept me abreast of the security checks -- they'd
- randomly drop by his house. They'd threaten his life; they'd
- threaten his wife's life. They had done all that so we really
- didn't converse, I mean, he really was adhering to the program."
-
-
-
- Gene Huff is a Las Vegas real estate appraiser. A regular
- guy who just happens to have a friend in the flying saucer
- business. He learned about Lazar's S-4 experiences only after a
- long period. Lazar is anxious for people to know that he didn't
- just run right out and spill the secrets of the universe, and
- that some things are properly kept confidential.
-
-
-
- Lazar: "I did not believe that this should be a security matter.
- Some of it, sure. But, just the concept that there's definite
- proof, and uh, we even have articles from another world, another
- system, you just can't not tell everyone. A lot of people don't
- believe that. But, I do."
-
-
-
- When he reached what he felt was his bursting point, he took
- Huff and a few others to the edge of the Groom Mountains to see
- the flights for themselves. A total of five witnesses on two
- consecutive weeks managed to dodge security patrols long enough
- to see the strange glowing object lift above the mountain.
-
-
-
- Huff(?): "Uh, it came up above the same mountain. It moved
- around. It did a step move -- it actually went up in the air
- like this [showing details with hands] and it hovered then
- dropped way down then it just floated around and cruised around.
- It starts coming up the mountain range...."
-
-
-
- This home video tape was recorded during one of the trips to
- the Groom Mountains [showing video tape. A lot of
- talking....Object in sight....Mention of brightness of the
- object....].
-
- Admittedly, the tape proves very little by itself because,
- with the distance and darkness, there are no reference points
- other than the alleged flying disk, but Lazar's information about
- the time and location of the test flight proves correct -- not
- once but twice. That, according to our off-camera interviews
- with each of the other witnesses. Gene Huff describes his second
-
- sighting:
-
-
-
- Huff: "Through the telescope we could see an elliptical-shaped
- light. You can only get so close even with a telescope to a
- secure facility. Anyway, it came up by us very rapidly. It
- glowed and glows brighter like a star and we almost got the
- feeling that it was going to explode, it glowed so brightly. We
- backed up behind the car then it went down and glowed back up a
- little bit and then very softly glided back over, back where the
- mountains where it came up, hovered for awhile, and then that's
- that....Just like you see in the movies."
-
-
-
- Bob Lazar isn't the only person to claim "inside knowledge"
- of the flying disks at the test site -- he is just the only
- person to say so publicly. We have communicated with several
- people who say they know of the saucer program. A technician in
- a highly sensitive position told us it is "common knowledge among
- those with high security clearances that recovered alien disks
- are stored at the Nevada test site." A Las Vegas professional,
- who once served in the military and was stationed at the test
- site, said he saw a flying disk land outside the boundaries of
- Area 51 -- that it was quickly surrounded by security personnel
- and that he was taken away and debriefed for several hours. A
- man who once worked at Groom Lake as a technician, at our
- request, wrote this letter explaining how he inadvertently walked
- into the wrong hangar and saw what appeared to be a large
- metallic disk under a tarp. It was being examined by men in lab
- coats. And, an airman who worked at Nellis at a radar
- installation says he and his fellow servicemen watched over a
- period of five nights, unusual objects flying over the Groom
- Mountains. He says the radar images indicates the objects zoomed
- into range at speeds of 7,000 miles per hour and then would stop
- on a dime, and that nothing we have is capable of doing that.
- The airman says that when word of his sighting got out, he was
- ordered to turn off his radar sensors for that area and told to
- keep quiet about the matter because it did not happen.
-
- None of this means that the military is actually flying
- alien spacecraft in the Nevada desert. It could all perhaps be
- explained as some other secret program. Lazar insists that's not
- the case.
-
- We put the matter to the U.S. Navy, which according to
- Lazar, is running the saucer show. Four different naval offices
- were contacted. All denied having any information in their
- files. The Naval Research Lab said it conducted a thorough
- search but found "zip." Naval Intelligence said much the same
- thing, adding, it is not required to create a file where one
- doesn't exist. A side note: We also requested files on a UFO
- sighting over Tremonton, Utah in 1952. The Navy spent more than
- a thousand hours studying film of that sighting -- a fact that's
- been noted in several publications -- but, for purposes of our
- request, the Navy couldn't find those files either.
-
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- Lazar: "The group that runs this project, whether it really is
- the Navy or they just say that, apparently these people have
- executive power -- they don't report to anyone."
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- Tomorrow, more troubling allegations of the military
- potential of alien technology.
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- tions of the military
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- potential of alien technology.
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