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- Doug Wing <doug_wing@il.us.swissbank.com> writes:
-
- >If you add up the total Linux users and Nextstep users they still total
- less
- >than OS/2 users. Win95 still runs on top of DOS, so a Win95 does not
- seem
- >as critical as an OS/2 port. E/D runs on DOS as does Win95. There is
- only
- >one DOS/Win program I run and that is Executor. I had to turn DOS
- support >on to run E/D and will be glad to turn support off as soon as I
- can.
-
- I don't agree that there are less Linux users than OS/2 People. Due to the
- freeware nature of Linux, it's probably impossible to know exactly how
- many systems are running Linux out there. I do agree that there are less
- NEXT systems out there though...
-
- (It would be interesting to hear ARDI post the relative number of
- registered users of each version: i.e. Executor/DOS, Executor/Linux,
- Executor/Next)
-
- Also, if I were only considering whether any version of Executor can run
- on a box, I'd agree. But I believe a Win 95 port of Executor is much more
- important than an OS/2 port only because it would be higher profile and
- likely to bring in more money, more quickly.
-
- I actually hope that ARDI brings out an OS/2 port. It would be good for
- both ARDI AND IBM.
-
- >>Unfortunately my take on situation is IBM is not willing to do the right
- >>job in getting OS/2 out there, and are likely to cut their losses and
- drop
- >>support of the system altogether.
-
- >OS/2 Merlin is currently in testing and nears completion. This is a
- major
- >upgrade to Warp and should carry a 4.0 badge. Does this appear to be
- dropping
- >support? OS/2 for the PPC seems near death, but OS/2 for x86 continues
- to
- >evolve.
-
- What causes me to have this opinion is all the press that says IBM is
- about to kill OS/2. The premature death of OS/2 Warp for the PPC, they
- transfer and loss of OS/2 programmers, and IBM's past track record of
- shrewd business decisions. I hope Merlin gets released. OS/2 gets better
- and better with each release.
-
- >>IF IBM were to somehow give ARDI some financial incentive to develop an
- >>Executor/2, I think that would be great.
-
- >How much money does Bill Gates give Ardi to devolpe E/D, E/NT and
- E/Win95?
- >How much money does Steve Jobs give Ardi to devolpe E/NS?
- >How much money does Linux Whatshisname give Ardi to develope E/Linux?
- >I am sure IBM matches their total contributrion dollar for dollar.
-
- Huh? A Windows of version of any useful program is much more likely to be
- a winner than just about any other platform. Even if 1 - 2% of the
- installed base buys it to check it out, thats many thousands of copies.
- Microsoft doesn't have to pay people to write Windows software. So many
- companies ARE writing so much mediocre Windows software that Microsoft
- keeps raising the price and difficulty of getting development materials
- and Windows certification.
-
- IBM on the other hand would be much better served in assisting small
- development companies with limited resources in developing some killer
- OS/2 native apps. MS-DOS was an also-ran (compared to CP/M-86 & USCD-P
- System) until virtually unknown companies on a show-string budget
- developed Visi-Calc, Lotus 1-2-3 and ported WordStar to it. MS-DOS was
- developed in a garage as a quick and dirty port of CP/M to the 8086
- processor until Microsoft licensed it and used IBM funding to develop it
- further.
-
- >>And I do indeed agree that OS/2 would be a much more stable platform for
- a
- >>native port of Executor than Win 95, except that there are much less
- >>people using OS/2 than there are Windows, Windows NT and Windows 95.
- It's
- >>unfortunate but true...
-
- >See my first comment.
-
- Although IBM sold One Million copies of Warp to Microsoft's 300,000 or so
- copies of Windows 95, there is a LARGE (8 Million plus?) installed base of
- Windows 3.1/MS-DOS out there. A killer Win 95 app like Executor would
- cause many people on the edge to jump, just like a native OS/2 port would
- as well.
-
- However, ARDI's main concern is NOT to champion any one platform (other
- than the MAC-OS platform in it's Executor incarnation) over any other, but
- to make a quality product and sell as many as possible, as SOON as
- possible.
-
- There are a lot of reasons why an OS/2 port is desireable. But many more
- for why it should be delayed for a time when more resources are available.
-
- >The only reason I made the purchase of E/D (Dec 95), was that Cliff told
- me
- >that they hoped to have an OS/2 port out around April. In Feb, Melissa
- told me
- >that they hoped to have the OS/2 port out before summer. I know that 2.0
- is
- >the priority, but I have no intentsion of holding out for the OS/2 port
- >indefinetly.
-
- >Regards,
- >Doug
-
- I too heard that same assertion. I know that people are infallible,
- programmers get sick or leave the company. Unplanned bugs (like the floppy
- bug) sneak up on you and bite you in the butt...
-
- I have no problem running the DOS version until a Win 95 or OS/2 port
- comes out. I already have all of the applications I need on a Wintel
- platform. I just LOVE to tinker with cutting edge stuff, and I love making
- hardware do something it's designers never planned.
-
- I may be different than you in these respects...
-
- If ARDI doesn't come out with the OS/2 port soon, what will you do? Is
- there another Mac Emulator I don't know about? (there used to be a board
- called the HYDRA, but it only ran under DOS/Windows... Anyway, I think the
- company went under...)
-
- Your best bet is to grin and bear it, and have fun playing with the
- bleeding edge releases. I'm sure that ARDI will release the OS/2 port as
- soon as they can (perhaps sooner than they believe based on past
- experience with Sound support and NT support...)
-
- I would not be at all surprised if there were a prototype OS/2 port in
- their labs somewhere, but just not ready for "Alpha-Time" (what DO you
- call a pre-Alpha application anyway?)
-
- I really want you and all other OS/2'ers to know that I have no desire for
- ARDI to delay any port of Executor more than absolutely necessary, but it
- must bug them to hear OS/2'ers beg for a version (and offer lots of info
- about how "trivial" it would be) and know that it just ain't possible at
- this time...
-
- - Al Hartman, Computer Expressions -
-
-