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- >>>>> "George" == george portell <75567.716@compuserve.com> writes:
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- George> You guys are doing a great job! Minimal funding(of
- George> which I am a part sn#x),small staff despite this you have
- George> produced a great product. You even have a following(of
- George> which I am a part).So when you put out an update there
- George> MUCH use of the modem. I'm suprised that you still haven't
- George> downsized your download files. I believe most of your
- George> users could get by on just a .zip file of the exsystem.hfv
- George> ,executor.exe and any other updated files.
-
- It's a tradeoff. Without a nice program to automatically do all the
- udpates and verify that everyone indeed is current, it is just too
- likely that some people will misinstall, or have a mostly working
- version that just confuses us when we try to track down a bug.
-
- George> Putting these
- George> files where they belong and running the program isn't a
- George> big deal. What is a big deal is down loading the same
- George> demos and misc files each time. You can probably save
- George> yourself a little bit of hassle by separating your
- George> exdemos.hfv into your HFV directory.
-
- Yes, however, even if only five users do something totally unexpected
- and then send us e-mail with a problem that takes a half hour each to
- solve, that's a considerable fraction of a day (20%) spent on a
- problem that wouldn't occur if we used complete distributions. We try
- to get new experimental distributions out on other sites (vorlon,
- cs.unm.edu, sunsite, SimTel) so that ftp.ardi.com isn't the only place
- to get them. In addition, our BleedingEdge work allows us to get
- patches out faster with less stuff to download. However, 1.99o will
- still be a big (approx. 3 MB) distribution -- this isn't so bad for
- the folks who have fast internet connections, but it's a real pain for
- folks with 14.4 kb modems. Sorry about this, but we're trying to
- maximize our productivity over here, and full distributions make us
- more productive.
-
- George> Your HFV directory
- George> is an excellent idea.Can users contribute?If so how?
-
- The best way to contribute is to send suggestions for what to put out
- there. We will not allow people to put things in there directly;
- that's just an invitation for trouble. Even if 649 out of the 650
- people on this list all do the right thing, one troublemaker (perhaps
- an inadvertant troublemaker) could cause us a lot of grief.
-
- BTW, since Vaune quit suddenly, it will take us a little while before
- we can get back to the HFV project. It may take us a month even,
- considering Hackathon I is upon us.
-
- George> A
- George> simple disclaimer in your log on, for those who don't know
- George> what "copyright" means, would be in order.I would post
- George> some useful shareware in zipped .hfv's.Users could upload
- George> you shareware that they would like to see running, in a
- George> different directory. A simple README zipped with each
- George> upload would probably be a good idea.
-
- Unfortunately, it's not that simple. I must say that it is very
- annoying that we *can't* just let people upload things themselves,
- because clearly we have very enthusiastic users who would easily help
- us out on their own time if we were to let them. Perhaps after we buy
- a copy of PGP we could build an automated system that would allow
- authenticated users to put things out there with no intervention.
- However, even that takes time and until Hackathon I is over, we can't
- do it, and even after Hackathon I is over, we'll probably be spending
- a lot of time courting the press with whatever version Hackathon I
- produces.
-
- I hate to be a wet blanket, but that's a byproduct of being
- overworked. There are just too many good projects that we can't look
- at yet. Remember, when 2.0 ships, we should have plenty more
- employees and be able to do lots more. That's why getting 2.0 out is
- the highest priority task over here.
-
- --Cliff
- ctm@ardi.com
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