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- On Sat, 20 May 1995 18:47:13 -0700 you wrote:
-
- >
- >executor-digest Saturday, 20 May 1995 Volume 01 : Number 154
- >
- >
- > In this issue:
- >
- > Fwd: mac 512k
- > Re: Using MAC low-density disks.
- > Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
- > Re: Apple System software
- > Mac CD-Roms with Executor
- > Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
- > Re: Apple System software
- > hfv files
- > Re: Apple System software
- > Re: Apple System software
- > Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
- > progress
- > Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
- >
- >----------------------------------------------------------------------
- >
- >From: CompExpr@aol.com
- >Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 23:28:08 -0400
- >Subject: Fwd: mac 512k
- >
- >- ---------------------
- >Forwarded message:
- >Subj: Re: mac 512k
- >Date: 95-05-19 23:27:43 EDT
- >From: CompExpr
- >To: tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk
- >
- >>From: tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts)
- >>To: CompExpr@aol.com
- >>CC: executor@nacm.com
- >>In your message (Tue, 16 May 1995 09:15:10 -0400), you wrote:
- >>>
- >>>It would be great if someone (other than our overworked friends at ARDI)
- >would
- >>> cook up a program to transfer 800k Floppies from a Mac (through a Null
- >modem
- >>>cable) to a DOS/LINUX/NEXTSTEP .HFV file. Hint.. Hint...
- >>
- >>This is impossible. The 800k macs used a variable speed drive; it's
- >>a hardware problem not a software problem. A PC (or modern mac)
- >>drive simpley cannot read the variable speed format.
- >>
- >>Tim.
- >
- >Tim,
- >
- >Read my message above closely...
- >
- >It says: It would be great if someone wrote software that would allow you to
- >transfer 800k disks FROM A MAC to a PC through a serial cable.
- >
- >The different type of floppy drive doesn't matter here since you WILL be
- >reading the 800k disk on a MAC on a variable speed drive.
- >
- >Not only is this NOT impossible, I can do it now with my Magic Sac MAC
- >Emulator on the Atari-ST. The Atari ST Magic Sac creates an MFM (IBM PC)
- >formatted 800k diskette from the 800k GCR (MAC) formatted disk by
- >transferring the contents of the disk through a serial cable..
- >
- >Hope this clears up your confusion.. (Seemed pretty clear to me..)
- >
- >- - Al Hartman -
- >Computer Expressions
- >
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: CompExpr@aol.com
- >Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 23:28:17 -0400
- >Subject: Re: Using MAC low-density disks.
- >
- >There was a board from MicroSolutions (The Backpack People) called Matchpoint
- >II. You attached an Apple 800k drive to this guy and it read Mac 400k/800k
- >disks...
- >
- >- - Al Hartman -
- >Computer Expressions
- >
- >
- >Your Message was:
- >
- >Subj: Re: Using MAC low-density disks.
- >Date: 95-05-17 05:36:20 EDT
- >From: ats@nimue.wustl.edu
- >To: ctm@ardi.com
- >CC: g.sightler@genie.geis.com, executor@nacm.com
- >
- >From: ats@nimue.wustl.edu (Alan Shutko)
- >Sender: owner-executor@nacm.com
- >To: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
- >CC: g.sightler@genie.geis.com, executor@nacm.com
- >>>>>> "Cliff" == Clifford T Matthews <ctm@ardi.com> writes:
- >
- >>>>>> "Jesse" == g sightler <g.sightler@genie.geis.com> writes:
- >
- >Jesse> In fact, the early MAC emulators for the Amiga did this rather
- >Jesse> well (of course, they had to shut off multitasking to do it :).
- >
- >Actually, it was the later mac emulators which did it... it took a
- >while for it to happen.
- >
- >Cliff> Even then I'm not sure that the PC has the same sort of
- >Cliff> control over the floppy disk that the Amigas did.
- >
- >I'm not sure either... as far as I know, it is impossible for the vast
- >majority of PC drives to read Amiga disks. (And as an owner of both,
- >I have a vested interest in that! If I'm wrong, PLEASE correct me!)
- >If I understand correctly, it's hinges on some capability that most
- >manufacturers didn't include to reduce prices.
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: Jake Hamby <jehamby@lightside.com>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 01:05:55 -0700 (PDT)
- >Subject: Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
- >
- >On Fri, 19 May 1995, Fred Salerno wrote:
- >
- >> Ive got the amiga emulator, but it needs a workbench disk. Which i dont have.
- >
- >The Amiga emulator is a hoax. Even if you do have a Workbench disk, it
- >doesn't work... It just pops up the insert disk picture, and clicks the
- >disk drive like an Amiga does.. I know, it's such a big executable, you'd
- >think it was for real, but it's not..
- >
- >- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >| Jake Hamby | jehamby@lightside.com |
- >| Student, Cal Poly Pomona | System Administrator, JPL |
- >- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: Tim Cutts (Zoology) <tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 09:54:32 +0100
- >Subject: Re: Apple System software
- >
- >In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
- >>I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
- >>be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
- >
- >Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
- >separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
- >a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
- >
- >Tim.
- >
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: h.schlager@magnet.at (Harald Schlager)
- >Date: 20 May 1995 12:09:20 GMT
- >Subject: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
- >
- > hello! is there a possibilty to see and read Mac CD with Executor(1.99m)
- > Thanks
- >
- >- --- OffRoad 1.9b registered to Harald Schlager
- >
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: Fred Salerno <salernof@polaris.ncs.nova.edu>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 09:00:57 -0400 (EDT)
- >Subject: Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
- >
- >You're kidding! And all this time I was thinking what it was.
- >
- >On Sat, 20 May 1995, Jake Hamby wrote:
- >
- >> On Fri, 19 May 1995, Fred Salerno wrote:
- >>
- >> > Ive got the amiga emulator, but it needs a workbench disk. Which i dont have.
- >>
- >> The Amiga emulator is a hoax. Even if you do have a Workbench disk, it
- >> doesn't work... It just pops up the insert disk picture, and clicks the
- >> disk drive like an Amiga does.. I know, it's such a big executable, you'd
- >> think it was for real, but it's not..
- >>
- >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >> | Jake Hamby | jehamby@lightside.com |
- >> | Student, Cal Poly Pomona | System Administrator, JPL |
- >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >>
- >>
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: Bob <bob@emi.net>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 10:08:58 -0400 (EDT)
- >Subject: Re: Apple System software
- >
- >>
- >> In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
- >> >I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
- >> >be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
- >>
- >> Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
- >> separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
- >> a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
- >>
- >
- >you might want to take a walk outside and go to your nearest BestBuy, Circuit
- >City, CompUSA, ComputerCity, etc, because they have been selling system 7.5
- >since it came out. actually why would they care who bought it when no one has
- >been able to use it w/out the ROM's which can't be purchased separately from
- >the MAC [until recently]
- >
- >also, why would ARDI have plans to do this if you couldn't buy the OS. besides
- >things at apple are getting a little more open what with the clone market and
- >macOS for other platforms.
- >
- >btw, how will the MacOS ports affect Executor? [ie will they essentially be
- >MacEmulators for other platforms or will you have to buy Word for Mac/x86,
- >Mac/Alpha, Mac/whatever] i guess they will be a dedicated OS instead of a
- >separate running app.
- >
- >bob(tm)
- >
- >- --
- >Robert Hollinger <------------------------------------>
- >1541 S Ocean Blvd #307 > \ www- http://www.emi.net/~bob / < Disclaimer:
- >Pompano Bch, FL 33062 > \/\/ bob@emi.net \/\/ <
- > <------------------------------------>I don't know her!
- >I'd like to see a nude opera, because when they hit those high notes, I bet you
- >can really see it in those genitals.
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: mcculley@greatwall.cctt.com (Gene McCulley)
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:10:18 -0400
- >Subject: hfv files
- >
- >I see that there is now a HFV directory for .hfv files on ftp.ardi.com.
- >But how do I use a .hfv with E/L? Will it be recognized automatically?
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: Jake Hamby <jehamby@lightside.com>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT)
- >Subject: Re: Apple System software
- >
- >On Sat, 20 May 1995, Tim Cutts wrote:
- >
- >> In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
- >> >I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
- >> >be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
- >>
- >> Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
- >> separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
- >> a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
- >>
- >> Tim.
- >>
- >
- >Of course they don't SELL System 6.0.7 because all versions of System
- >software up to System 7 (but not 7.1 or 7.5) are freely available. You
- >can even download them from Apple's FTP site!
- >
- >- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >| Jake Hamby | jehamby@lightside.com |
- >| Student, Cal Poly Pomona | System Administrator, JPL |
- >- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: Silvia J Pena <sjppena@tenet.edu>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:59:21 -0500 (CDT)
- >Subject: Re: Apple System software
- >
- >On Sat, 20 May 1995, Tim Cutts wrote:
- >
- >> In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
- >> >I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
- >> >be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
- >>
- >> Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
- >> separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
- >> a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
- >>
- >> Tim.
- >>
- >>
- >To tell you the truth you do not have to purchase a Macintosh in order to
- >use the system software. System 6 and System 7 are avalible for
- >downloading on ftp.apple.com. As long as you do not sell the software, I
- >believe you can use the software.
- > -Joseph
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: Silvia J Pena <sjppena@tenet.edu>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:00:07 -0500 (CDT)
- >Subject: Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
- >
- >Yes, with the commerical version of Executor.
- >
- >On 20 May 1995, Harald Schlager wrote:
- >
- >> hello! is there a possibilty to see and read Mac CD with Executor(1.99m)
- >> Thanks
- >>
- >>
- >> --- OffRoad 1.9b registered to Harald Schlager
- >>
- >>
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: ODED ROY BEN-JOSEPH <ob94ab@badger.ac.BrockU.CA>
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 18:18:28 +0059 (EDT)
- >Subject: progress
- >
- >is there any progress regarding the modula-2 compiler bug?
- >
- >
- > Regards,
- > O.B.J.
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
- >From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
- >Date: Sat, 20 May 95 18:25 MDT
- >Subject: Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
- >
- >>>>>> "Silvia" == Silvia J Pena <sjppena@tenet.edu> writes:
- >
- > Silvia> Yes, with the commerical version of Executor. On 20 May
- > Silvia> 1995, Harald Schlager wrote:
- >
- >Actually, the time limited version of Executor does everything the
- >non-time limited version does, including read Mac formatted CD ROMs.
- >In order for a Mac formatted CD ROM to work under DOS, you need to
- >have the MSCDEX (Microsoft CD Extensions) package installed. To read
- >a Mac formatted CD ROM under Linux you need to have "/dev/cdrom" be
- >readable and be a link to your particular type of CD ROM.
- >
- > >> hello! is there a possibilty to see and read Mac CD with
- > >> Executor(1.99m) Thanks
- > >>
- > >>
- > >> --- OffRoad 1.9b registered to Harald Schlager
- >
- > --Cliff
- >
- >------------------------------
- >
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