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- From: Clifford T. Matthews <ctm@ardi.com>
- Newsgroups: comp.emulators.mac.executor,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
- Subject: Winning Mindshare via MacOS on Intel (was Re: Software ... Executor)
- Date: 02 Apr 1996 07:13:23 -0700
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- I have snipped the first portion of Kevin's post away (it requested
- people to not fight OS wars on comp.emulators.mac.executor) and have
- added comp.sys.mac.advocacy to the Newsgroups line because my reply to
- Kevin (and the non-snipped portion of Kevin's message) *is* Mac
- advocacy, albeit Mac advocacy that's in ARDI's interest.
-
- I've also bcc'd this to a few people at Apple, because Kevin's letter
- is an unsoliticited testimony to why cooperation between Apple and
- ARDI would benefit both. A brief description of Executor is provided
- at the end of this article for people who aren't aware of what it is,
- what it does and what it doesn't do.
-
- >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevwil <kevwil@aol.com> writes:
- In article <4joh2n$i2t@newsbf02.news.aol.com> kevwil@aol.com (Kevwil) writes:
-
- [snip]
-
- Kevin> Executor Apps in the Browser's hotband: Adobe Illustrator
- Kevin> 5.5 NIHImage 1.58 UltraPaint 1.05 ClarisWorks 2.1 Compact
- Kevin> Pro 1.50 Dynodex 3.0 GhostScript Giffer 1.1.2 KidPix 1.0
- Kevin> MicroSoft Word 5.1a QuarkXpress 3.2 Rescue 2.03 SimEarth
- Kevin> Color Speedometer 3.23 Stuffit Expander Tetris Max 2.4
- Kevin> TexEdit Vision-3D
-
- Kevin> Where else could you run these apps without a hardware cost
- Kevin> of $1200 or more!
-
- I think some of the low-end Macs cost less than $1200, but thank you
- for providing this list of what you use under Executor.
-
- Kevin> Apple should probably pay ARDI a commission because, since
- Kevin> registering E/D(b&w) and being introduced to the Mac thru
- Kevin> it, I have purchased a Performa 460 for my daughter and a
- Kevin> Quadra 800 for myself. My Mac backups reside in HFV's
- Kevin> created with E/D on Dos-based Bernouilli 90 disks.
-
- You're not alone. Ernst Oud, a frequent contributor to
- comp.emulators.mac.executor, and others have reported similar stories.
-
- Macs are still the right choice for millions of people, and even
- though Executor doesn't run the Finder, Executor manages to let PC
- users see *some* of the benefits of Macs.
-
- As regular readers of the comp.emulators.mac.executor newsgroup know,
- we're in the process of getting our first beta CD-ROMs made. Once we
- get a beta CD-ROM we're happy with, we'll send some copies to people
- at Apple and let them see what we've done so far *without* any
- official cooperation between our two companies.
-
- There is technically no reason why x86 based PCs couldn't run a very
- large subset of MacOS in a relatively short period of time, with
- cooperation from Apple (even without cooperation from Apple we'll be
- making great strides in compatibility in '96). Even then, buying Macs
- would make sense for millions of users -- everyone with a '386 or
- better PC would be able to inexpensively check out Macs, and many
- would recognize that for many purposes, real Apple Macs (and clones)
- would be preferable to running MacOS on a PC.
-
- The following paragraphs rebut some of the common objections to MacOS
- on the PC. NOTE: Executor is *NOT* MacOS on the PC, and the following
- paragraphs are *not* talking about Executor as it currently exists,
- but about a hypothetical future product that would combine Executor's
- technology with MacOS.
-
- I know some people think Apple should avoid MacOS on Intel because
- they need all their engineers working on Copland and other Mac
- hardware based projects. That's OK. ARDI has its own engineers and
- when Executor 2 is shipping we'll have the resources to hire more.
-
- I know some people think that a less than 100% plug-and-play, 100%
- compatible with MacOS 7.5, 100% compatible with PPC version of MacOS
- on Intel would somehow make Apple look bad, but that's a matter of
- marketing. I have enough respect for PC buyers to believe that they
- could easily understand the message "this software allows you to run
- many Macintosh programs on your existing PC -- if you like what you
- see, consider a real Mac for your future computing needs".
-
- I know some people think that putting MacOS on x86 based PCs would
- result in fewer Apple and clone real Macs being sold because people
- would just use the PC version and not buy real Macs. From a technical
- standpoint, this could happen in theory -- if the compiler tools
- people gave ISVs the tools to include native x86 code fragments for
- compute intensive tasks, the low cost of x86 processors and
- motherboards could conceivably result in MacOS running sufficiently
- well and sufficiently cost effectively on the x86 to cut into Apple's
- sales.
-
- Personally I don't see it happening in the near future because there
- would be an awful lot of software engineering necessary to get that
- far. Instead I see a limited MacOS on Intel as being a good
- compromise for pre-existing machines and for machines that *have* to
- run x86 binaries at blazing speeds, with real Macs being easier to
- configure, easier to add peripherals to and a more cost effective
- solution for Mac-only users. But if an x86 version ever did beat
- non-x86 versions in all those categories, then Apple would have the
- option of building x86 machines. Some programmers would weep, but the
- end user wouldn't care.
-
- Oh well, enough of the hypothetical. We've come this far without
- Apple's cooperation (though to be fair, we haven't heard any
- objections from Apple, either). We'll still make tremendous progress
- in '96 no matter what happens.
-
- Kevin> Eagerly awaiting, after the relese of 2.0, the following:
-
- Kevin> Serial support
-
- We already have some of this working in the lab; it just wasn't stable
- enough to make the feature set of E2.
-
- Kevin> FPU emulation
-
- We'll probably support SoftFPU through INIT and cdev support before we
- do our own FPU emulation. Mat, our emulator guru, is too busy working
- on VCPU (which is faster than Syn68k and also allows PPC emulation)
- and besides, it makes sense to add FPU emulation to VCPU rather than
- to add it to Syn68k, since Syn68k won't be used after VCPU is done.
-
- Kevin> Non-Postscript printing
-
- That will come fairly soon after we get Executor out of the "DOS box"
- in which it runs and into Win32 and/or OS/2 subsystems.
-
- Kevin> Outline Font support Init & CDEV support
-
- Just like supporting SoftFPU to get FPU support, we'll probably
- support ATM before we do our own Outline Font support. INIT and cdev
- stuff isn't really that hard to do, per-se, we just ran out of time.
-
- Kevin> Ability to run the the following with full functionally:
- Kevin> ColorIt 3.0 PhotoShop 3.0.5 Illustrator 6.0 QuarkXpress
- Kevin> 3.32 ATM PageMaker 6.0
-
- We'll still make some significant strides in many of those programs
- *before* Executor 2 ships.
-
- Kevin> ARDI has done a miraculous job.
-
- Thank you.
-
- --Cliff
- ctm@ardi.com
-
- For people not already familiar with Executor, Executor is a program
- that allows many Macintosh applications to run on PCs. It uses no
- software from Apple -- we have spent the last nine and a half years
- rewriting the Mac OS and Toolbox routines using strictly clean-room
- techniques (i.e. we haven't disassembled any of Apple's ROM or System
- code). Due to the fact that we don't use any Apple code, Executor has
- many limitations (you can find them in our answers to Frequently Asked
- Questions file available on our web site).
-
- Executor 2 is in pre-beta, we hope to officially put it into beta
- later this week. You can pick up a demo copy of Executor from our web
- site:
-
- http://www.ardi.com
-
- 1.99q is the latest "experimental" release. There is also a patch
- "1.99q12" which significantly enhances 1.99q.
-
-