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Im no expert on Linux, but is it safe to upgrade to 1.3.x kernels?
I thought the odd # ones were beta kernels. I only went as far as 1.2.13

On 1 Feb 1996, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:

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> >>>>> "joshuam" == Joshua Tree <[e-mail]> writes:
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>  joshuam> However when I run Chiral and the quit it reboots linux.
>  joshuam> I've never had a program crash linux before and I didn't
>  joshuam> think it was possible to reboot linux (maybe with some
>  joshuam> low-level 386 register stuff).  I'm guessing that this is a
>  joshuam> bug :) (I certainly hope it's not a feature).
>
> The kernel should *never* crash, no matter what Executor does.  (I am
> assuming you are using Executor/X.)  So whether or not it's a bug in
> Executor, it is definitely a bug in your kernel, or your hardware.
>
> Upgrade to the latest 1.3.x kernel and see if the problem goes away.
> If it doesn't, write up *exactly* how to reproduce the problem and
> mail it to "[e-mail]".
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>>>>> "Fred" == Fred Salerno <[e-mail]> writes:
In article <[e-mail]> Fred Salerno <[e-mail]> writes:


    Fred> Im no expert on Linux, but is it safe to upgrade to 1.3.x
    Fred> kernels?  I thought the odd # ones were beta kernels. I only
    Fred> went as far as 1.2.13

Safe is relative.  Executor 1.99<x> itself is *pre*-beta.  Linux users
who want sound *must* use a 1.3.x kernel.  1.3.45 seemed pretty darn
stable to me.  We had trouble with 1.3.54 and are now using 1.3.57.
My understanding is 1.3.58 and 1.3.59 are to be avoided.

--Cliff
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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Friedman )
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>
>Remember "Aladin" and "Spectre" (mac emulators running on an Atari)?
>You have to put original Mac ROMs into a ROM port module to use them.
>
I remember those boxes.  Do you remember the ROMless Apple //e clones
which were being sold all over the place in the early '80s?  Apple sued
them (and won) arguing that the only possible reason for such units was
to load them up with counterfeit ROMs.  The manufacturers of the clones
argued that this was not true, that they could be used by persons who
had canabalized the ROMs or bought them through Apple.  The problem was
that the number of units sold vs. the number of junked //e's just
didn't work and the court sided for them.  Now, if a clean ROM bios
(even a not very good one) was on the market, a different result would
probably have happened.  Similarly, if there is other operating systems
which this system can legally load and the glue makes sense for them
too, I think the results are different.

Lastly, remember that just because someone did it, doesn't mean that it
couldn't be challenged.  Often, you have to reach a certain size before
your noticed.  Franklins were around for quite a while before Apple
sued them.  Laser (which was a carefully cloned machine) clearly had
clean ROMs and Apple still tried to sue them on three continents.

This, I guess is another issue which we often ignore.  U.S. law is not
the only intellectual property law you need to worry about anymore.  In
these computer suits, we are seeing global forum shopping, (e.g. Apple
using Hong Kong law to sue Laser, Compaq going after Packard-Bell under
European trade law, etc.).

Stu

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From: [e-mail] (J.E. Scott)
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Subject: linux executor problem
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I have a licenced version of Executor for linux. But its stopped working,
it gives the error:

too many copies on this cpu

which of course is untrue. I tried deleting everything and reinstalling it and it
still does it. It doesn't do it before I have put the licence numbers in but that
means I can only run it in demo mode. Anyone know whats wrong!?

James Scott
Clare College
Cambridge
UK

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From: [e-mail] (Cameron Esfahani)
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No, you can go out and just buy System 7.5.

Cameron Esfahani
[e-mail]

In article <4emq40$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Stuart Friedman ) wrote:

> >On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Simon Tooke wrote:
> >
> >> What if you just emulated the raw Mac (ROMS only) and asked users
> >> to go buy System 7.5 themselves?
> >>
> Aside from the problems just mentioned, there could be arguments
> (correct me if I am wrong here) about contributory infringement by ARDI
> even if the cloned ROMS were perfectly clean.  If I produce a product
> which has no significant non-infringing use, even if legal, I can be
> sued.
>
> Since you cannot just go and buy System 7.5, there is a problem.  The
> Systems for sale on the shelves at CompUSA are UPGRADES.  If there
> isn't a legal way to get the original system, any purchased copies
> would seem be purchased in violation of the license agreement for the
> software in the first instance.  It seems that this might present some
> problems.  I might be wrong on this point, but that is what it seems to
> me.  This, however, assumes the legality of shrink-wrap licenses, and
> this is obviously a debatable point.
>
> Stu

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)
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Here in comp.emulators.mac.executor, Morgan Marks <[e-mail]>
spake unto us, saying:

>Yeah, fuck you.

Tsk...  :-)

>This is a cracks and warez group.
>Take your copyright infringment and SPA self elsewhere.

Take the time to look at up your message headers, and you'll note that
one of the newsgroups this is being posted to is the group run by the
authors of Executor.  Not very bright, are we?

Give me your address, and I'll mail you a penny so you can buy a clue...

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From: [e-mail] (Steve Weyer)
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In article <4esp52$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gene McCulley) wrote:

>Okay, thanks to pointers from people, I have found and downloaded the
>Apple Doc Viewer.  Unfortunately, I have no Mac.  I tried to run the Doc
>Viewer under Executor, the Mac emulator, but it cannot run it.  Is
>anyone doing Newton development without a Mac?  If so, how are you
>viewing the documentation?  My desktop PC runs Linux and I would
>appreciate any pointers to methods to get the docs into a format I can
>view from Linux, (e.g. PostScript, PDF, HTML, ASCII).

hopefully the docs will eventually be available more portably (either
Acrobat or HTML).  for non-Mac Newt users, they're getting by with some
docs that I wrote (in PDF or PostScript) format (and soon HTML and Newton
book formats); and I'll be expanding those over next few months to cover
what's in the newer NTK docs.


>Also, if anyone knows how to get Doc Viewer or another Mac App that can
>read Doc Viewer files to work with Executor, please let me know.

please let me know also if you find out.

Steve
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In article <4eqs40$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Sub-Zero) says:
>I need it because, the time that the demo last, it's really not
>enough.  Please reply by e-mail.  Thanks.
>
>                        Sub-Zero



This is in extremely poor taste to ask for the serial number in a company supported newsgroup.
I am going to assume you are now aware of how much support ARDI gives this product
or how small of a budget they have.  My adivce....  Pay the very resonable fee if you feel
that the time limit is too short.  Rip off the biggies like Microsoft if you will, but
support the little guys, all the good software comes from small outfits these days anyway.