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Just a wild thought I had while thinking too late at night. Since there is a *bsd port to mac68k, are there any chances (slim to none, yeah, I know) that executor could run something other than the MacOS, since it will simulate a processor/?the hardware? of a real mac? Comments anyone? -- <a href=mailto:tfries@umr.edu>Todd T. Fries</a> <a href=http://www.cs.umr.edu/~tfries/>My Homepage!</a> From owner-paper Fri Jan 5 08:15:36 1996 Return-Path: <owner-paper> Received: by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYDrO-0007qEa; Fri, 5 Jan 96 08:15 MST Sender: owner-paper Received: from ardi.com by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYDpv-0007qBn; Fri, 5 Jan 96 08:13 MST Path: sloth.swcp.com!usenet From: Clifford T. Matthews <ctm@ardi.com> Newsgroups: comp.emulators.mac.executor Subject: Re: silly question Date: 05 Jan 1996 08:07:57 -0700 Organization: ARDI Lines: 24 Message-ID: <uf91jm7k8i.fsf@ftp.ardi.com> References: <4cinvp$6av@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.ardi.com In-reply-to: tfries@rocket.cc.umr.edu's message of 5 Jan 1996 08:37:13 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0 To: executor@ardi.com X-MailNews-Gateway: From newsgroup comp.emulators.mac.executor Sender: owner-paper@ardi.com Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Todd" == Todd Fries <tfries@rocket.cc.umr.edu> writes: In article <4cinvp$6av@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> tfries@rocket.cc.umr.edu (Todd Fries) writes: Todd> Just a wild thought I had while thinking too late at night. Todd> Since there is a *bsd port to mac68k, are there any chances Todd> (slim to none, yeah, I know) that executor could run Todd> something other than the MacOS, since it will simulate a Todd> processor/?the hardware? of a real mac? Todd> Comments anyone? Without additional work at ARDI the chances are indeed slim to none. We have been approached a few times by people that had 68k based stuff that they'd be interested in porting but we would charge too much for such work, since ARDI engineering time is better spent by getting Executor to run System 7.5, or support networking or serial ports, etc. Todd> -- <a href=mailto:tfries@umr.edu>Todd T. Fries</a> <a Todd> href=http://www.cs.umr.edu/~tfries/>My Homepage!</a> --Cliff ctm@ardi.com From owner-paper Fri Jan 5 09:14:17 1996 Return-Path: <owner-paper> Received: by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYEmD-0007qHa; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:13 MST Sender: owner-paper Received: from ardi.com by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYElc-0007q3n; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:13 MST Path: sloth.swcp.com!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!ncar!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!col.hp.com!sdd.hp.com!hamblin.math.byu.edu!park.uvsc.edu!news.caldera.com!news.cc.utah.edu!zifi.genetics.utah.edu!zinc From: zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zinc) Newsgroups: comp.emulators.mac.executor Subject: Re: Executor compatibility? Date: 5 Jan 1996 02:23:01 GMT Organization: assorted dsRNAs and lotsa zinc Lines: 52 Message-ID: <4ci225$nla@news.cc.utah.edu> References: <gary-0301961130580001@bgr17.acadia.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: zifi.genetics.utah.edu To: executor@ardi.com X-MailNews-Gateway: From newsgroup comp.emulators.mac.executor Sender: owner-paper@ardi.com Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <gary-0301961130580001@bgr17.acadia.net>, Gary Robinson <gary@first.acadia.net> wrote: >Hello, > >I'm interested in switching from the Mac to another machine, either >Unix-based or NT. > >My only real problem is one program--Symantec's MORE. I have many >megabytes of data stored in MORE format, and as far as I know there's no >compatible program to import the data into. > >So I want to either run MORE under NT or a Unix system. > >Will Executor fill the bill for me? Has it been tested with MORE? > >Does it run under NT? Linux? FreeBSD? > Gary, executor runs under Linux both under X and SVGA. i'm using it now :). additionally, i just use MORE with executor. i have never used this program before but we had it around so i uploaded it to zifi and gave it a shot. it worked like a charm. executor complained in the beginning about it possibly not being 32 bit clean but everything i tried worked perfectly without errors. i was able to write a new file, save it and open it again. additionally various things like other views worked fine. i'd grab the demo and try it yourself. - -pjf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Say NO to GAK! - fight for your privacy! iQCVAwUBMOyLbU3Qo/lG0AH5AQEEpQP/Yknvm60SPFet/cbLh/5jmHJGlwblxHG6 CKtANvHL9x8YybKh4mhL8X3bZZKfUVLMIuFHcRRpDmjAZ7gzvBUjnaLUHdBaqe0E 4P/nCRHQskSr/VhWLI+Nuj+JH/JMaVFncsUWitYYeoi22DEARqGwLBvkZcKdLSy/ 6yACYTGYpwg= =W2BH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- patrick finerty = zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu = pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu U of Utah biochem grad student in the Bass lab - zinc fingers + dsRNA! ** FINGER zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for pgp public key - CRYPTO! zifi runs LINUX 1.2.13 -=-=-=WEB=-=-=-> http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu From owner-paper Fri Jan 5 09:14:23 1996 Return-Path: <owner-paper> Received: by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYEma-0007qDa; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:14 MST Sender: owner-paper Received: from ardi.com by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYEli-0007qEn; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:13 MST Path: sloth.swcp.com!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!ncar!noao!CS.Arizona.EDU!news.Arizona.EDU!news.Cerritos.edu!newshub.csu.net!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!globe.indirect.com!usenet From: delliott@bud.indirect.com (delliott) Newsgroups: comp.emulators.mac.executor Subject: Re: ANYBODY HAVE A MAC EMULATOR FOR PC ? Date: 5 Jan 1996 04:34:08 GMT Organization: American Color Corporation Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4ci9o0$s4a@globe.indirect.com> References: <dario-2312951817130001@port76.iprolink.ch> <alextmbl-0101961726080001@dialup23a.sequel.net> <4cavum$vrs@mikasa.iol.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: s66.phxslip4.indirect.com X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.4@s66.phxslip4.indirect.com X-Authenticated: delliott on POP host bud.indirect.com To: executor@ardi.com X-MailNews-Gateway: From newsgroup comp.emulators.mac.executor Sender: owner-paper@ardi.com Precedence: bulk Quite the trick to run the Mac on Dos or Windows. Can it run one program or run all. Let's say I want to run Photoshp 3.0, Wordperfect 3.5, Marathon 1 and 2, and my Now Contact. Could I do this on my Intel machine using your emulator. In other words, is your product the real deal or little more than a screen saver? I am truly interested but my monitor powers down so I do not need a mac desktop to take up energy. Also, how much RAM is required in addition to the application to run like a MAC? 8? 16? 24? From owner-paper Fri Jan 5 09:14:18 1996 Return-Path: <owner-paper> Received: by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYEmP-0007qIa; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:14 MST Sender: owner-paper Received: from ardi.com by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYElh-0007qDn; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:13 MST Path: sloth.swcp.com!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!ncar!uchinews!news.spss.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news.caldera.com!news.cc.utah.edu!zifi.genetics.utah.edu!zinc From: zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zinc) Newsgroups: comp.emulators.mac.executor Subject: (E/L, 1.99q) Endnote 2.0.1 and 2.1 have stopped working!! this is BAD. Date: 5 Jan 1996 02:38:09 GMT Organization: assorted dsRNAs and lotsa zinc Lines: 72 Message-ID: <4ci2uh$o0t@news.cc.utah.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: zifi.genetics.utah.edu To: executor@ardi.com X-MailNews-Gateway: From newsgroup comp.emulators.mac.executor Sender: owner-paper@ardi.com Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ardi, i guess i could have filed a bug report but this seemed easier. my original plans for executor involved running Word 5.0a or 5.1 and Endnote Plus so i could write a paper on my linux box instead of on one of our macs. it appears this idea is falling apart. i don't know when this happened as far as executor development goes, but i'll get 1.99p9 or whatever the version before q was and try that too. i consider this a show stopper. this is a serious program that many people use for managing bibliographies in conjunction with MS Word. here's what happens. i double click on the Endnote Plus icon, after some time its splash screen comes up and then executor just locks. i've been writing this mesg while letting it try to start. i have to kill executor to get rid of the window. this problem is present in both E/L SVGA (ELF) and plain E/L (ELF) under X. the odd thing is, the Endnote plus (2.0.1) module for Word works just fine. this program is launched from within Word. i'll get the older versions of executor and determine if the trouble began before this or not. i had deleted them as i'm actually beginning to run out of disk space on zifi. here's my config again: AMD 486 DX4-100 S3 X server (trio 64 chipset) 16 MB RAM Linux 1.2.13 7:34pm zifi-> ldd executor libgdbm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2.0.0 libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5.0.5 libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18 /usr/local/bin 7:34pm zifi-> ldd executor-svga libvga.so.1 => /usr/lib/libvga.so.1.2.7 libgdbm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2.0.0 libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5.0.5 libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18 the libc is very new, as is libm. everything else seems to work fine so i sort of doubt these are the problem. if you think they are let me know. i have older versions of the libs around. - -pjf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Say NO to GAK! - fight for your privacy! iQCVAwUBMOyPAk3Qo/lG0AH5AQH6qgP/YHqpun1KFv/uT+w7X57Iu8+ppQ0Ra/+e +s4R+ZYRp3uKiMMRWclIUHWGZgx940zYomXTu6cVmYR/XpVOYw8lX8/6nRMppm73 n2/0UWb4f32ztASDxqbg7wCWEJFTf75LmEXEQsgyQAoqkZOADANWf5QHFb/Ftypq DpOOwWGsp1E= =lb8+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- patrick finerty = zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu = pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu U of Utah biochem grad student in the Bass lab - zinc fingers + dsRNA! ** FINGER zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for pgp public key - CRYPTO! zifi runs LINUX 1.2.13 -=-=-=WEB=-=-=-> http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu From owner-paper Fri Jan 5 09:23:33 1996 Return-Path: <owner-paper> Received: by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYEvS-0007qDa; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:23 MST Sender: owner-paper Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by ftp.ardi.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYEut-0007qCC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:22 MST Message-Id: <m0tYEut-0007qCC@ftp.ardi.com> Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6015; Fri, 05 Jan 96 11:09:48 EST Received: from american.edu (NJE origin NEWHALL@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5796; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:09:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 05 Jan 96 11:06:11 EST From: "William Parsons Newhall, Jr." <NEWHALL@american.edu> Organization: The American University Subject: Do Rayshade and the Vision3D modeller run on Executor? To: executor@ardi.com Sender: owner-paper@ardi.com Precedence: bulk I am writing a book on computer graphics and I would like to include some Macintosh shareware on the accompanying CDROM. I am also considering evaluating Executor(perhaps even throwing the shareware version on the CD) but before I do any of those things I was wondering if anyone has had success running either of these programs(they both use a lot of floating point math). Thank you for your attention... William Newhall From owner-paper Fri Jan 5 10:08:51 1996 Return-Path: <owner-paper> Received: by ftp.ardi.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYFdD-0007qCa; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:08 MST Sender: owner-paper Received: from tide10.microsoft.com by ftp.ardi.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tYFcb-0007qBC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:08 MST Received: by tide10.microsoft.com; id JAA15247; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 09:08:54 -0800 Received: from unknown(157.54.17.74) by tide10.microsoft.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma015155; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:08:42 -0800 Received: from xnet2 (xnet2.microsoft.com [157.54.17.205]) by imail2.microsoft.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA14786; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:58:31 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from NAX-01-HUB by xnet2 with recvsmtp; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:55:34 -0800 X-Received: from eux-02-hub by nax-01-hub with receive; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:55:28 -0800 X-Received: from lul-02-msg by eux-02-hub with receive; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:18:37 +0000 X-MSMail-Identification-du-message: E2057166 X-MSMail-ID-de-la-conversation: E2057166 From: Florent Pitoun (Itl Temp) <i-flopit@microsoft.com> To: executor@ardi.com, owner-paper@ardi.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 17:16:50 PST Subject: Re: 199q problems X-MsXMTID: lul-02-msg960105161806MTP[01.52.00]000000f7-1727 Message-Id: lul-02-msg960105161806MTP[01.52.00]000000f7-1727 Sender: owner-paper@ardi.com Precedence: bulk The point is how to do such a thing. Thanks if u can tell us. i-flopit@microsoft.com ---------- De: Scott Shuchart <shuchart@fas.harvard.edu> A: <executor@ardi.com> Objet: Re: 199q problems Date: jeudi 4 janvier 1996 22:43 In article <4cfbu0$9oi@netaxs.com>, chrisr@netaxs.com (Chris's Mail Room) declares... >I like the concept of a MAC emulator, but whats the point, if it can't >communicate with the outside world, Don't run a reasonable amount of >software. Don't get me wrong, I'm not mad or bitching, but I don't see >how usefull a computer is that can't print, can't dial up to an online service, >I cannot buy software for it confidently because I don't know if it is going >to work. > >Perhaps someone can help me, Can I use my pc to download files from the internet, >if so, how can I get the file into executor. Sure you can. Most files for macs are posted on bbs's and ftp sites in .hqx format. These files, which collapse the mac's data and resource forks into one file, can be downloaded on a pc. Then open up executor, copy the file from a DOS volume into an executor volume (an .hfv file), and open Stuffit Expander (included with all Executor releases). Decode the file, and unStuff it, if necessary. Share and enjoy. -- Scott Shuchart shuchart@fas.harvard.edu