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Received: from sloth.swcp.com (sloth.swcp.com [198.59.115.25]) by nacm.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA22789 for <executor@nacm.com>; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:28:22 -0700 Received: from iclone.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sloth.swcp.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id LAA20774; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:28:18 -0600 Received: from beaut.ardi.com by mailhost with smtp (nextstep Smail3.1.29.0 #11) id m0sfVuk-000YbnC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 11:24 MDT Received: by beaut.ardi.com (linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sfVuk-00005nC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 11:24 MDT Message-Id: <m0sfVuk-00005nC@beaut.ardi.com> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 95 11:24 MDT From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford Thomas Matthews) To: Dennis Edgecombe <dennis_edgecombe@wsu.edu> Cc: executor@nacm.com Subject: Re: Competition for ARDI??? In-Reply-To: <199508071536.IAA09482@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> References: <199508071536.IAA09482@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> Sender: owner-paper@nacm.com Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Dennis" == Dennis Edgecombe <dennis_edgecombe@wsu.edu> writes: Dennis, Thank you for alerting us of this story. However, reproducing a complete story, verbatim, is verboten. The fair use of copyrighted materials is a tricky subject, but on this list, we try to be squeaky clean about such matters and would prefer that you give a citation so that the curious can look up the exact article and then give a summary, in your own words, perhaps with a key sentence or two from the original article, if the exact wording is important. Dennis> Looks like ARDI has some competition... Maybe ARDI could Dennis> team up with them? See story below. I don't think Quix is ARDI's competition. We do plan to make Executor so that you can drop System 7.5 on top of it and then get full compatibility. When we start making those mods, help from Quix or Apple would be worthwhile, but would probably not be something we could do, due to legal constraints. Dennis> Report: Little-known Quix puts Apple software on IBM Dennis> computer ... Dennis> IBM just started selling a PC that uses the chip but ^^^^^^^^ Dennis> the machine's design was thought to be unacceptable for Dennis> Macintosh software. It instead uses IBM's AIX and OS-2 Dennis> (though still in a test version) and Microsoft Corp.'s Dennis> Windows NT operating programs. "The chip" in question here is the PowerPC chip. Although it's not immediately obvious, even when you read the entire article, what Quix has done is made a PPC based IBM machine run Mac software, similarly to what they did with 680x0 based NeXT computers. Essentially they have written enough glue to make Apple's own software work on a slightly different hardware configuration. Presumably the ARDI engineers could do this themselves, were they not "clean" engineers -- i.e. engineers who have never seen any of the implementation details of Apple's OS or Toolbox. I have little doubt that Apple could have done this work themselves. If they haven't (and they may have done so in secret, for all I know), it's more a political issue than a technical one. After all, Apple's MAE team have the MacOS running on SPARCs and HPs. --Cliff ctm@ardi.com