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Received: from sloth.swcp.com (sloth.swcp.com [198.59.115.25]) by nacm.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA07428 for <executor@nacm.com>; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:23:52 -0700 Received: from iclone.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sloth.swcp.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id LAA26374; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:23:21 -0600 Received: from beaut.ardi.com by mailhost with smtp (nextstep Smail3.1.29.0 #11) id m0sWRua-000YbCC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:18 MDT Received: by beaut.ardi.com (linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sWRua-00005mC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:18 MDT Message-Id: <m0sWRua-00005mC@beaut.ardi.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:18 MDT From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford Thomas Matthews) To: rrs0030@ibm.net (Steve Sinnott) Cc: mat@ardi.com, executor@nacm.com Subject: Re: DAs in Hotband In-Reply-To: <199507131654.QAA166995@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <199507131654.QAA166995@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Sender: owner-paper@nacm.com Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Steve" == Steve Sinnott <rrs0030@ibm.net> writes: Steve> On Wed, 12 Jul 95 17:01 MDT you wrote: >>>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Shuchart <shuchart@husc.harvard.edu> >>>>>>> writes: >> Scott> Has anyone played around with fonts/DAs in the hotband Scott> enough to have any useful suggestions for the rest of us? ... Mat Hostetter> Yeah, that's badly broken right now. Steve> No, it's not.. I tried 4 DA's this morning, and 3 Steve> worked. Specifically, I tried To Do! 3.2.1, DtC 303, Disk Steve> Top 1.2, and Scrapz 1.3.2. To Do! is a (oddly enough) to-do Steve> list, and it worked perfectly. DtC is a Scientific Steve> Calculator, and it ran, but all the calculations were Steve> completely wrong (9 times 9 is not -14. I think.). Disk Top Steve> is a DA that tells your disk free-space. I didn't expect it Steve> to work, and it didn't. GPF-city. DAs do much better under 1.99n than previously, but there are still some major problems: Browser doesn't put DAs in the Apple menu immediately when they are put in the hotband -- we'll fix Browser to do this hopefully in the next day or two. Additionally, you can't double-click a DA in the hot-band to start it, so you have to run some other program *and the* check the Apple menu for the DA that you've installed. It is possible to install the same DA more than once. Ick. Browser frequently forgets what's in the DA hotband, so there is no way to remove DAs once they've been placed in there and then forgotten. Executor's DA execution code is still fairly untested (because it used to be very hard to install DAs), so many DAs surprise it (i.e. Executor crashes or works improperly with many DAs). Steve> Scrapz is the most interesting, and useful. It's a Steve> Scrapbook replacement, but it has import/export functions, Steve> resizeable windows, multiple scrapbooks, gallery view, and Steve> more. It also holds the clippings across sessions. It works Steve> fine, except that the pull-down menu wouldn't let me select Steve> items, I had to use the command-key equivalents. Yes, Scrapz has been recommended by others. We'll try to get it totally working by the time 2.0 ships. Steve> Before anyone starts asking where to get them, they were on Steve> one of my CD's. Sorry. Steve> The only other result of my testing today was to discover Steve> that taking the CD out in the middle of a session (even if Steve> it's not in use at the moment) will lock my computer Steve> up. Not a good thing. Ouch. Can you use Ctrl-BREAK and get a backtrace when this happens? If so, we can decode it and then see what we can do. Steve> Still, the DA support seems to be there, and it works Steve> pretty well... Good job! We're making improvements -- it's just that we have *so* much to do before 2.0 is ready. Hackathon I will be a nice diversion (few new features added, mostly just making more applications work better). BTW, BleedingEdge will soon contain 1.99n5, which should allow DOS users to use CD-ROMs up through and including Z: and should also allow DOS users to get into their network and CD-ROM filesystems. Everyone will also be able to take color TIFF screendumps with Cmd-Shift-3. --Cliff