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- From: huntercr@cs.purdue.edu (Charles Hunter)
- Message-Id: <199506230327.WAA29766@lab11.cs.purdue.edu>
- Subject: Re: Why a Windows 95 version?
- To: dan_g@ix.netcom.com (Dan Guisinger),
- executor@nacm.com (Executor mailing list)
- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 22:27:20 -0500 (EST)
- In-Reply-To: <199506230218.TAA24774@ix2.ix.netcom.com> from "Dan Guisinger" at Jun 22, 95 07:18:15 pm
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- >
- > >> But Windows 3.1 can not be used because it doesn't use a flat memory model.
- > >
- > >XMS *is* a flat memory model.
- >
- > Yeh, XMS is, but Windows only uses up to 16 Meg. Plus, it can not do any thing with the memory
- > in 32 bit! XMS is used to full advantage under DOS only, and it should stay that way. XMS has
- > no place with the new 32-bit versions of windows.
- >
- > > That's one of the features that distinguishes
- > >it from silly paged memory models like EMS.
- >
- > Only under DOS.
- >
- >
- > >Windows 95 might be the most commonly-used OS overall in a year, yes, mostly
- > >due to OEM bundling, but the real question is "how many potential Executor
- > >users will be likely to use Windows 95"? That's a tough call, I guess, and
- > >it certainly merits consideration, but most of the folks I know who are the
- > >most likely to want Executor are mostly running Linux or OS/2 now because
- > >those are also cutting-edge toys to play with.
- > >
- >
- > Win95 is a cutting edge platform. In fact, it is probibly more powerful, and has more (much
- > much more) support than wimpy old OS/2. I had OS/2 2.00 and am never going back.
- >
-
- OK... now I know this thread really shouldn't be continued on this list, but
- I just had to reply to this. Everyone knows that Win95 is not a cutting edge
- platform. It is a slapped together, excuse for an OS. It is what DOS should have
- been about 2 years ago. OS/2 and older brother NT, not to mention LINUX, and BSD
- are real 32bit OS's that are based on the "cutting edge".
-
- To be factual:
-
- Win95 :
- single address space
- cooperative multitasking of 16bit Win3 apps
- poor memory protection
- allows use of realmode 16bit DOS device drivers as system drivers
-
- OS/2:
- emcapsulated address space
- preemptive multitasking of 16bit win3 apps
- Memory protection
-
- this list is short, but the first two alone clue me in to the fact that
- Windows 95 is not a cutting edge platform.
-
- memory protection? do this on Windows 95:
-
- c:\> debug
- -f 0:0 ffff 0
-
- Under OS/2 my DOS session dies and I return to OS/2. Under Win95
- bye bye... 8)
- >
- > >I just don't see Windows 95 as being a cutting-edge platform. And I don't
- > >see the Windows 3.x market vanishing immediately, either.
- > >
- I agree.
-
- > >Oh well. I'm bordering on advocacy here (my apologies), and ARDI has a lot
- > >more important things to concentrate on (like v1.99n and 1.99o <grin>). I
- > >can't wait for v1.99n's release. Has anyone gotten Cyclone to work on E/D??
- > >
- >
- > Yep. Lets see if those ever come out first! Heh. Heh. No offense ARDI.
- >
- > >-Rich Steiner (rsteiner@skypoint.com is my perferred e-mail address)
- > >
- >
- > -Dan Guisinger
- >
-
- NO real flames intended.. just thought I should put in a word against.
- PLease reply personally and not to the list, as I realize how innapropriate
- religious wars are.
-
- -- Charles Hunter
-
-
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