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On Sat, 20 May 1995 18:47:13 -0700 you wrote:

>
>executor-digest            Saturday, 20 May 1995       Volume 01 : Number 154
>
>
>  In this issue:
>
>    Fwd: mac 512k
>    Re: Using MAC low-density disks.
>    Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
>    Re: Apple System software
>    Mac CD-Roms with Executor
>    Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
>    Re: Apple System software
>    hfv files
>    Re: Apple System software
>    Re: Apple System software
>    Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
>    progress
>    Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>From: [e-mail]
>Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 23:28:08 -0400
>Subject: Fwd: mac 512k
>
>- ---------------------
>Forwarded message:
>Subj:    Re: mac 512k
>Date:    95-05-19 23:27:43 EDT
>From:    CompExpr
>To:      [e-mail]
>
>>From: [e-mail] (Tim Cutts)
>>To: [e-mail]
>>CC: [e-mail]
>>In your message (Tue, 16 May 1995 09:15:10 -0400), you wrote:
>>>
>>>It would be great if someone (other than our overworked friends at ARDI)
>would
>>> cook up a program to transfer 800k Floppies from a Mac (through a Null
>modem
>>>cable) to a DOS/LINUX/NEXTSTEP .HFV file. Hint.. Hint...
>>
>>This is impossible.  The 800k macs used a variable speed drive; it's
>>a hardware problem not a software problem.  A PC (or modern mac)
>>drive simpley cannot read the variable speed format.
>>
>>Tim.
>
>Tim,
>
>Read my message above closely...
>
>It says: It would be great if someone wrote software that would allow you to
>transfer 800k disks FROM A MAC to a PC through a serial cable.
>
>The different type of floppy drive doesn't matter here since you WILL be
>reading the 800k disk on a MAC on a variable speed drive.
>
>Not only is this NOT impossible, I can do it now with my Magic Sac MAC
>Emulator on the Atari-ST. The Atari ST Magic Sac creates an MFM (IBM PC)
>formatted 800k diskette from the 800k GCR (MAC) formatted disk by
>transferring the contents of the disk through a serial cable..
>
>Hope this clears up your confusion.. (Seemed pretty clear to me..)
>
>- - Al Hartman -
>Computer Expressions
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: [e-mail]
>Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 23:28:17 -0400
>Subject: Re: Using MAC low-density disks.
>
>There was a board from MicroSolutions (The Backpack People) called Matchpoint
>II. You attached an Apple 800k drive to this guy and it read Mac 400k/800k
>disks...
>
>- - Al Hartman -
>Computer Expressions
>
>
>Your Message was:
>
>Subj:    Re: Using MAC low-density disks.
>Date:    95-05-17 05:36:20 EDT
>From:    [e-mail]
>To:    [e-mail]
>CC:    [e-mail], [e-mail]
>
>From: [e-mail] (Alan Shutko)
>Sender: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail] (Clifford T. Matthews)
>CC: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>>>>>> "Cliff" == Clifford T Matthews <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>>>>> "Jesse" == g sightler <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Jesse> In fact, the early MAC emulators for the Amiga did this rather
>Jesse> well (of course, they had to shut off multitasking to do it :).
>
>Actually, it was the later mac emulators which did it... it took a
>while for it to happen.
>
>Cliff> Even then I'm not sure that the PC has the same sort of
>Cliff> control over the floppy disk that the Amigas did.
>
>I'm not sure either... as far as I know, it is impossible for the vast
>majority of PC drives to read Amiga disks.  (And as an owner of both,
>I have a vested interest in that!  If I'm wrong, PLEASE correct me!)
>If I understand correctly, it's hinges on some capability that most
>manufacturers didn't include to reduce prices.
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Jake Hamby <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 01:05:55 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
>
>On Fri, 19 May 1995, Fred Salerno wrote:
>
>> Ive got the amiga emulator, but it needs a workbench disk. Which i dont have.
>
>The Amiga emulator is a hoax.  Even if you do have a Workbench disk, it
>doesn't work...  It just pops up the insert disk picture, and clicks the
>disk drive like an Amiga does..  I know, it's such a big executable, you'd
>think it was for real, but it's not..
>
>- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|    Jake Hamby        |    [e-mail]        |
>|  Student, Cal Poly Pomona    |     System Administrator, JPL        |
>- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Tim Cutts (Zoology) <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 09:54:32 +0100
>Subject: Re: Apple System software
>
>In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
>>I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
>>be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
>
>Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
>separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
>a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
>
>Tim.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: [e-mail] (Harald Schlager)
>Date: 20 May 1995 12:09:20 GMT
>Subject: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
>
> hello! is there a possibilty to see and read Mac CD with Executor(1.99m)
> Thanks
>
>- --- OffRoad 1.9b registered to Harald Schlager
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Fred Salerno <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 09:00:57 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: Reading MAC 800K disks
>
>You're kidding! And all this time I was thinking what it was.
>
>On Sat, 20 May 1995, Jake Hamby wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 May 1995, Fred Salerno wrote:
>>
>> > Ive got the amiga emulator, but it needs a workbench disk. Which i dont have.
>>
>> The Amiga emulator is a hoax.  Even if you do have a Workbench disk, it
>> doesn't work...  It just pops up the insert disk picture, and clicks the
>> disk drive like an Amiga does..  I know, it's such a big executable, you'd
>> think it was for real, but it's not..
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> |    Jake Hamby        |    [e-mail]        |
>> |  Student, Cal Poly Pomona    |     System Administrator, JPL        |
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Bob <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 10:08:58 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: Apple System software
>
>>
>> In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
>> >I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
>> >be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
>>
>> Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
>> separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
>> a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
>>
>
>you might want to take a walk outside and go to your nearest BestBuy, Circuit
>City, CompUSA, ComputerCity, etc, because they have been selling system 7.5
>since it came out.  actually why would they care who bought it when no one has
>been able to use it w/out the ROM's which can't be purchased separately from
>the MAC [until recently]
>
>also, why would ARDI have plans to do this if you couldn't buy the OS.  besides
>things at apple are getting a little more open what with the clone market and
>macOS for other platforms.
>
>btw, how will the MacOS ports affect Executor?  [ie will they essentially be
>MacEmulators for other platforms or will you have to buy Word for Mac/x86,
>Mac/Alpha, Mac/whatever]  i guess they will be a dedicated OS instead of a
>separate running app.
>
>bob(tm)
>
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>can really see it in those genitals.
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: [e-mail] (Gene McCulley)
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:10:18 -0400
>Subject: hfv files
>
>I see that there is now a HFV directory for .hfv files on ftp.ardi.com.
>But how do I use a .hfv with E/L?  Will it be recognized automatically?
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Jake Hamby <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: Apple System software
>
>On Sat, 20 May 1995, Tim Cutts wrote:
>
>> In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
>> >I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
>> >be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
>>
>> Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
>> separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
>> a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
>>
>> Tim.
>>
>
>Of course they don't SELL System 6.0.7 because all versions of System
>software up to System 7 (but not 7.1 or 7.5) are freely available.  You
>can even download them from Apple's FTP site!
>
>- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|    Jake Hamby        |    [e-mail]        |
>|  Student, Cal Poly Pomona    |     System Administrator, JPL        |
>- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Silvia J Pena <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:59:21 -0500 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: Apple System software
>
>On Sat, 20 May 1995, Tim Cutts wrote:
>
>> In your message (Fri, 19 May 1995 16:04:25 -0400), you wrote:
>> >I know that the plan is to make Executor (3.0 ?) take system 7.5, but will it
>> >be easier (and faster) for now to make it take System 6.0.x.
>>
>> Apple does not sell System 6.x (or system 7 for that matter) as a
>> separate package, so we'd all have to buy a Macintosh in order to get
>> a copy, which would defeat the object of having executor... :-)
>>
>> Tim.
>>
>>
>To tell you the truth you do not have to purchase a Macintosh in order to
>use the system software. System 6 and System 7 are avalible for
>downloading on ftp.apple.com. As long as you do not sell the software, I
>believe you can use the software.
>                    -Joseph
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Silvia J Pena <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:00:07 -0500 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
>
>Yes, with the commerical version of Executor.
>
>On 20 May 1995, Harald Schlager wrote:
>
>>  hello! is there a possibilty to see and read Mac CD with Executor(1.99m)
>>  Thanks
>>
>>
>> --- OffRoad 1.9b registered to Harald Schlager
>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: ODED ROY BEN-JOSEPH <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 18:18:28 +0059 (EDT)
>Subject: progress
>
>is there any progress regarding the modula-2 compiler bug?
>
>
>    Regards,
>        O.B.J.
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: [e-mail] (Clifford T. Matthews)
>Date: Sat, 20 May 95 18:25 MDT
>Subject: Re: Mac CD-Roms with Executor
>
>>>>>> "Silvia" == Silvia J Pena <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>    Silvia> Yes, with the commerical version of Executor.  On 20 May
>    Silvia> 1995, Harald Schlager wrote:
>
>Actually, the time limited version of Executor does everything the
>non-time limited version does, including read Mac formatted CD ROMs.
>In order for a Mac formatted CD ROM to work under DOS, you need to
>have the MSCDEX (Microsoft CD Extensions) package installed.  To read
>a Mac formatted CD ROM under Linux you need to have "/dev/cdrom" be
>readable and be a link to your particular type of CD ROM.
>
>    >> hello! is there a possibilty to see and read Mac CD with
>    >> Executor(1.99m) Thanks
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> --- OffRoad 1.9b registered to Harald Schlager
>
>    --Cliff
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of executor-digest V1 #154
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