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Received: from fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de (fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.40.152]) by nacm.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA18940 for <executor@nacm.com>; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:23:48 -0700 Received: (from zxmmz01@localhost) by fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA00908; Fri, 19 May 1995 18:40:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 18:40:45 +0100 From: Martin Konold <zxmmz01@fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de> Subject: Re: Two Items, One: Does Linus know?, Two: Appleshare over AFS To: Stephen Robert Norris <srn@flibble.cs.su.oz.au> cc: Jesse Hong <jesse@exodus.MIT.EDU>, executor@nacm.com In-Reply-To: <199505190808.SAA21930@flibble.cs.su.oz.au> Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9505191814.B880-0100000@fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-paper@nacm.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 May 1995, Stephen Robert Norris wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just yesterday, Linus Torvalds was here at MIT giving a talk. He had > > made mention of DOSEMU, Wine, and the iBCS2 compatibility on Linux, but > > he did not mention Executor, which I think is close to the level of > > DOSEMU in stability. Executor could be a big winner with Linus if it > > can run PowerPoint since he did his slides in PowerPoint for Windows > > and was complaining having to switch and such and how Wine isn't quite > > up to it. Don't know if he gives a lot of talks (don't think he does) > > but he could be good publicity. > > Executor is _more_ stable than DOSEMU, at least in my > experience. The dosemu that runs under X, for example, only does text > modes (although the current plans may change that, at least for Windows). > I do not agree with you. The point is that executor is much more stable than wine but cannot be compared to dosemu. DOSEMU does not emulate DOS nor Windows it just gives you a virtual PC with BIOS support. You have to boot conventional DOS inside DOSEMU. DOSEMU even runs DOOM 2.0 and descent and to my surprise they are going to support to boot native Win 3.1 inside DOSEMU **after** you have bootet native MS-DOS or DR-DOS! Wine is much less usefull and stable due to the fact that the wine people try to emulate all the windows api calls. This is equivalent to the job executor does to mac binaries. They do also have similar problems like ardi has. (No documentation of the internas & no reversal engeneering etc.) DOSEMU offers already full color support on the console (24bit here). Another point is: DOSEMU is GPL and comes with source, executor is commercial software without souce! Yours, martin martin.konold@student.uni-tuebingen.de