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Received: from sloth.swcp.com (sloth.swcp.com [198.59.115.25]) by nacm.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA26671 for <executor@nacm.com>; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:19:11 -0700 Received: from iclone.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sloth.swcp.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id LAA18257; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:21:38 -0600 Received: by mailhost (nextstep Smail3.1.29.0 #11) id m0sC9Bk-000YbDC; Thu, 18 May 95 11:16 MDT Message-Id: <m0sC9Bk-000YbDC@mailhost> Date: Thu, 18 May 95 11:16 MDT From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews) To: Tim Cutts (Zoology) <tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> Cc: SimBoss@aol.com, executor@nacm.com Subject: Re: Executor/Win95 In-Reply-To: <9505181145.AA04014@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> References: <950517232025_122734423@aol.com> <9505181145.AA04014@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> Sender: owner-paper@nacm.com Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Tim" == Zoology <Tim> writes: Tim> In your message (Wed, 17 May 1995 23:20:26 -0400), you wrote: >> If a Win95 port for Executor is made, then it should have long >> filenames even outside of an HFV file. Many aspects of the >> Win95 environment are Mac-like. You might want to try to >> implement some of them. Also, running Mac programs directly >> from the Win95 desktop would be nice. >> >> SimBoss Tim> Win95 will render the HFV obsolete (Executor/Linux does not Tim> by default use HFV files for precisely this reason; ext2fs Tim> allows 255 character filenames), so Mac folders become Tim> ordinary directories with two files for each Mac file Tim> 'filename' and '%filename' which are the resource and data Tim> forks. [pedant mode on] Actually, it will make HFV files much less important, but not totally render them obsolete, since there are a few esoteric uses of HFV files that remain. In fact, we may be switching E/L and E/NS to use a HFV file for the volume that holds the system folder because of one of them. Some programs find out where the System Folder is and then decide they want to write something at the "root" of that volume. On a UFS (UNIX File System) implementation of the Mac FS, this has apps trying to write in directories that normally won't have write permission. Ugh. The easiest way to get around this is to have the System Folder be in an HFV. In addition, some programs, like Norton Utilities (NU 1.0 runs under Executor) know about disk layout and require an HFV or other hfs formatted medium to work. Of course you don't *need* NU if you're using a UFS based implementation, but it's just an example. [pendant mode off] --Cliff