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-
- This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) list should be a repository of the
- canonical "best" answers. If you know a better answer or a change that
- improves an answer, please tell me! (Use email, please. Traffic in
- this group is high, and I might miss a relevant posted article.)
-
- Steve Adams, SPSS, Inc., Chicago, IL, USA
- adams@spss.com
-
- Because this list is quite long, I am posting it in four parts:
- part 1 of 4: detailed contents and introduction
- part 2 of 4: credit cards
- part 3 of 4: credit cards continued
- part 4 of 4: credit reports (this file)
- Please read the disclaimers, acknowledgements, and general information
- in part 1. (The most important disclaimer is that I am not a lawyer and
- this file is not to be construed as legal advice.)
-
- Some helpful free pamphlets are available from the FRB. You can call
- (215) 574-6115 or write to Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, Public
- Information/Publications, P O Box 66, Philadelphia PA 19105-0066, for
- these among others:
-
- - Your Credit Rating
- - Applying for Credit and Charge Cards
- - How To Establish and Use Credit
-
- See part 1 of this FAQ list to obtain a catalog of FRB publications.
-
-
- section 7. Credit bureaus and your credit rating
- =================================================
- The U.S. Fair Credit Reporting Act of 1971 governs credit bureaus.
- Alas, consumer protections are not as strong in credit reporting as in
- credit billing (part 2 of 3 in this FAQ list).
-
- Q701. What is "the credit bureau"?
-
- There are three big ones: TRW, Equifax, and Trans Union, all with
- national databases. Most credit grantors report to one or more of
- them. In general, the credit bureaus don't pass information back
- and forth to each other. So actually you have three credit
- histories, not one.
-
- There are also local credit bureaus and reporting agencies. They're
- nowhere near as widespread as the big three. However, they are also
- subject to the Fair Credit Reporting Act, so anything said here will
- apply to them too.
-
- A brochure titled "Understanding Credit Bureaus," outlining all the
- basics and your rights, is available for $1 [check or money order]
- from Bankcard Holders of America, 560 Herndon Pkwy, Suite 120, Herndon,
- VA, 22070.
-
- Q702. Who assigns my credit rating?
-
- You don't have a credit rating, as such. Each credit bureau
- collects information from banks, finance companies, department
- stores, taxing authorities, landlords, and other "credit grantors"
- and keeps the information in your file. The file is supposed to be
- an objective record of your credit history, in essence a sorted copy
- of information furnished to the credit bureau by companies you have
- done business with on credit.
-
- The credit history shows your name, address, Social Security number
- and birth date; your open accounts, with balances and credit limits;
- whether you pay them on time or not; whether any of them are or were
- turned over for collection; any suits, judgments, or tax liens; and
- so on. It may also include, according to {Your Credit Rating}, your
- employer, position, and income; your former address and former
- employer; your spouse's name, SSN, employer, and income; and whether
- you rent or own your home.
-
- That's the official story. However, according to the November 1991
- {Consumer Reports}, the attorney general of New York State has
- charged that TRW maintains a secret numerical scale of (TRW's
- opinion of) each consumer's credit worthiness. (I can verify this
- because a person who is very close to me and whom I trust completely,
- has confirmed it to be true, upon guarantee of anonimity.) Credit
- grantors who pay extra (which is 30% of them) see that score besides
- the factual information. Consumers are not told their scores, according
- to a TRW spokeswoman, "because it wouldn't mean anything to the
- consumer." The scale, according to my source, is on a 1 to 1000
- rating, where the number represents the pro-mille chance of default.
- Seems understandable to me.
-
- Latest reports have TRW dropping this rating, but I have not been able
- to confirm this with my previous source.
-
- Q703. How long does it take for an event (positive or negative) to show
- up on my credit report?
-
- Suppose you've just paid off a large loan and you're applying for a
- car loan or a mortgage. It would be nice to know that the lender
- who pulls your report will see that the old loan paid was off okay.
-
- However: Credit grantors' contracts with credit bureaus may or may
- not specify a timetable for grantors to report new information to
- the bureau. If the credit grantors are tardy there's not much the
- credit bureau can or will do, since those same credit grantors are
- also the customers of the credit bureau. Also, credit bureaus may
- gather information directly from public records, on any schedule
- they please.
-
- The answer to this Q, as a practical matter, is that there's no time
- limit that you can enforce for information to show up. In fact, you
- don't have a legal right to insist on any report being made at all.
- (You can get false items corrected, but you can't legally insist on
- omitted information being added.) If you've actually paid off a debt
- that is reported as still unpaid, about all you can do is go through
- the procedure in section 9, "Fixing your credit report," for
- challenging incorrect information.
-
- Note that you can certainly provide the credit grantor with documents
- that show the loan was repaid. I did this at the time of my mortgage
- with two accounts that showed as 'open.'
-
- Q704. How does a lender decide whether to grant a loan?
-
- When you apply for a mortgage, credit card, or other loans, the fine
- print on the application gives the lender permission to check your
- credit history. The lender usually requests a credit report from
- one of the big three credit bureaus. The bureaus supposedly just
- report the raw data and don't assign you any kind of "credit
- rating." The lender looks at the report and decides whether to grant
- you the credit you are asking for.
-
- In general, lenders look at your total outstanding loans (e.g., your
- credit card balances). They also look at your credit limits to see
- how far in debt you could go if you max out with your existing
- accounts. Naturally, they are concerned with your record of
- delinquencies, accounts paid satisfactorily, and anything else that
- suggests how good a credit risk you might be.
-
- Where do the credit bureaus get the information on your credit
- report? Much of it is reported to them by lenders. Bureaus may
- also copy bankruptcies, judgments, repossessions, and delinquent taxes
- from public records.
-
- See also "Should I apply," below, the last paragraph of "Who assigns
- my credit rating?" above, and "What are 'inquiries' on my credit
- report" in section 8, "Getting and reading your credit report."
-
- Q705. Should I apply for as many credit cards and charge accounts as
- possible, even if I won't use most of them right away?
-
- This may create a problem -- actually, two problems.
-
- Many lenders look at your total credit limit on each account to
- determine whether they want to give you additional credit. If you
- have ten Visa cards with a $5000 limit on each, and five have a zero
- balance and the other five have $100 each, your actual debt is $500.
- Some lenders may evaluate you on the basis of $50,000 of debt
- because you could go out tomorrow and charge that much.
-
- Merely applying for many accounts can also create a problem; see
- "What are 'inquiries' on my credit report" in section 8, "Getting
- and reading your credit report."
-
- Q706. I was refused a loan or credit card. What can I do?
-
- If the lender's decision was based on a report from a credit bureau,
- by law the lender must tell you this and give you the name and
- address of the credit bureau. This is true even if the credit
- report was only one factor in the decision.
-
- Write to the credit bureau. State that you were denied credit,
- insurance, or employment by (name) on (date) based on a report from
- them, and you want a copy of your report. By law the credit bureau
- must give you a free copy if you request it within 30 days after you
- were turned down based on a report from that credit bureau. (It
- doesn't matter whether you have already received other free reports.)
- Also, free reports are available under certain circumstances at certain
- intervals from some of the credit bureau. For example, TRW offers
- one free copy per year.
-
- If you provide some extra information with your request, you may get
- a more extensive report: other forms of name you have used (such as
- maiden name and Jr.); current and previous addresses for the past
- five years; Social Security number.
-
- For what to do next, please see sections 8, "Getting and reading
- your credit report," and 9, "Fixing your credit report."
-
- Q707. One lender refused my loan, but another one said it was fine. How
- can this be?
-
- There are two possible reasons. First, they may have been looking
- at reports from two different credit bureaus. A lender where you
- had a problem might have sent a report to one of those credit
- bureaus but not the other. Second, lenders have different criteria.
- Even when looking at the same report, they might reach different
- decisions.
-
- Q708. I'm planning to apply for a loan, and I'd like to know up front
- that my credit is clean. What can I do?
-
- If you can, find out in advance which credit bureau your lender will
- be using. Then you can order just that one bureau's report rather
- than buying all three of them.
-
- Please see section 8, "Getting and reading your credit report," for
- further information.
-
- Q709. How long do negative items stay on my report?
-
- Personal bankruptcies (ie Chapter 7) may be reported for ten years;
- most other kinds of information for seven years. But there's a huge
- loophole: the time limits don't apply when you're applying for life
- insurance or credit of $50,000 or more, or when you're being
- investigated by a prospective employer for a job paying $20,000 a year
- or more. (Yes, twenty thousand.) Source: {Your Credit Rating},
- rev 1/87.
-
-
- section 8. Getting and reading your credit report
- =================================================
-
- Q801. How much does my credit report cost?
-
- There are no Federal laws limiting the price, though some state laws
- do. As of August 1992, Equifax was charging an average of $8,
- depending on state of residence. Trans Union was charging an average
- of $15.00, using the same criteria. TRW, after the first free report,
- was charging and average of $7.50.
- [As reported in the Chicago Tribune, August 6, 1992, Sec 3, Page 3]
-
- Sometimes you can get your report for free. See the next Q.
-
- Q802. Can I get a free copy of my own credit report?
-
- You can get a free copy of a report if the lender used that report
- to help decide to turn you down for credit, employment, or insurance
- within the last 30 days. See "I was refused a loan" in section 7,
- "Credit bureaus and your credit rating." To its credit, TRW extends
- that period to 60 days. Equifax and TRW will accept phone requests
- in this case only; see "Can I phone in my request," below.
-
- If you haven't recently been turned down, the answer is less clear:
-
- - TRW will provide one complimentary report per year. This is the
- result of a consent decree that settled lawsuits by 14 states.
-
- - Equifax and Trans Union are not under any legal obligation to
- provide free routine reports to consumers, but it appears they may
- be doing it anyway. If they do ask for a fee, you have no legal
- complaint.
-
- Anecdotal evidence suggests that both Equifax and Trans Union
- will provide free reports, but this is not always the case.
- From evidence received from email correspondants and personal
- attempts, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You can send
- a request with your address and SSN to all three bureaus with the
- request "Please send me a copy of my credit report" -- no money, no
- statement of having been denied credit, and see what happens.
-
- Q803. Can I phone in my request?
-
- Here is current status as of 2 May 1992:
-
- - Equifax: call (800) 685-1111. This voice mail system will take
- your request if you were denied credit, employment, or insurance
- within the last 30 days based on an Equifax report. Otherwise, it
- will quote a price and tell you how to write for a copy of your
- report.
-
- - Trans Union: There is a national phone number for people who have
- been denied credit in the last 60 days to request a copy of their
- Trans Union file. (313) 689-3888 gets you a 24-hour voice mail
- system which asks several questions. According to the recording,
- the report is mailed in 72 hours (normal U.S. mail so allow 5-7 days).
-
- - TRW: call (800) 392-1122. This voice mail system talks to you in
- Spanish or English. It will let you record your request if you
- were turned down for credit, employment, or insurance within the
- last 30 days based on a TRW report. Otherwise, it will quote a
- price and tell you how to write for a copy of your report.
-
- Caution: if your phone request gets lost, you'll have to write
- anyway. If your letter is later than 30 days after you were denied
- credit, employment, or insurance, you might have to pay for the
- report. It would be a good idea to mention in your letter the date
- that you requested the report by phone.
-
- Q804. Where do I mail my request for a credit report?
-
- - Equifax Information Service Center, P O Box 740241, Atlanta GA
- 30374-0241. FAX: (404) 612-2668. If you were denied credit,
- employment, or insurance within the last 30 days, you might get
- faster service by calling the voice mail menu; see "Can I phone in
- my request," above.
-
- - Trans Union Customer Relations Center, 25249 Country Club Blvd,
- P.O.Box 7000, North Olmsted OH 44070.
-
- - TRW, P O Box 2350, Chatsworth CA 91313-2350. If you were denied
- credit, employment, or insurance within the last 60 days, you
- might get faster service by calling the voice mail menu; see "Can
- I phone in my request," above.
-
- Q805. What information should I provide when requesting a report?
-
- If you have a letter denying you credit, employment, or insurance
- within the last 30 days, a copy of the letter should be enough for a
- report from the credit bureau that it names. If you're just
- requesting a routine copy, you can probably get it with just your
- name, address, and Social Security number. Either way, your report
- may be more complete if you also include your date of birth and
- previous address. (An email correspondent reported in late April
- 1992 that he sent postcards with just his name, address, and Social
- Security number and got reports from Equifax and Trans Union.)
-
- TRW, as part of its effort to create a "true partnership [with]
- consumers," according to a TRW memo published on Usenet by an
- employee, wants all the following information when you request a
- free routine report, and will refuse any requests that omit any all
- of it: "Full name of the consumer ... including middle initial and
- generation such as Jr., Sr., II, III, etc.; current address
- including ZIP code; previous addresses with ZIP codes for the past
- five years (if the consumer has moved); Social Security Number; year
- of birth; spouse's first name ...; [and] photocopy of a billing
- statement, utility bill, driver's license or other document that
- links the name of the consumer ... with the address the report
- should be mailed to."
-
- And do remember to sign your request.
-
- Q806. Help! What are all those codes on my credit report?
-
- There should be a separate key or explanation mailed with the
- report. Sit down and spend some time to try to read it. If it
- still looks like Sanskrit, you might ask a trusted friend to go over
- it with you. Or someone in your personnel office at work, or the
- dean of students office at your school, or behind the railing at
- your bank, might be willing to help you. (It's not their job to do
- this, so remember that you're asking a favor. You may be charged a
- fee.)
-
- Q807. What are "inquiries" on my credit report?
-
- Whenever you or anyone else asks for a copy of your credit report,
- the request is supposed to be noted as part of your credit history.
- If you apply for lots of credit cards in a short time, this will
- produce a flurry of "inquiry" notes on your credit report. Lenders
- often turn this around and assume that a flurry of inquiries means
- you've recently applied for lots of credit, so they turn you down on
- that basis even though the inference is not strictly valid.
-
- If a lender cites "excessive inquiries" as a reason for turning you
- down, this is what has happened. The lender has guidelines for how
- many inquiries in what period of time is too many. Unfortunately,
- you have no legal right to challenge this policy or even to know
- what the specific criteria may be.
-
- Don't give your name or address to a merchant until you're actually
- ready to apply for credit there. Some merchants illegally run
- credit checks on you as soon as they have your name and address,
- even though you have not applied for credit, to give them an idea of
- what to sell you and how. (I'm told many car dealers do this.)
-
- I don't know what legal recourse, if any, you have against
- unauthorized inquiries.
-
- If lender A sees inquiries from B, C, and D but no new accounts, A
- may assume that B, C, and D turned you down for credit. Figuring
- "better safe than sorry," A may then turn you down just because it
- assumes B, C, and D turned you down. Again, this is a judgment call
- on the part of A, and you have no legal right to challenge it. If
- you have not applied for any credit recently but have been, say,
- looking at cars at several dealerships, you might want to let the
- lender know this in case it's taking unauthorized inquiries into
- account.
-
-
- section 9. Fixing your credit report
- ====================================
- See the preceding two sections for general information about credit
- bureaus, credit reports, and your credit history.
-
- Q901. I've got a copy of my credit report, and it's wrong. What now?
-
- First, take a deep breath. The Federal Trade Commission says that
- inaccurate credit reports are the number-one source of consumer
- complaints, and that it is quite common for problems to take six
- months or more to be resolved. All of the big-three agenices
- are working on making sure that all disputes are handled within
- 30 days.
-
- Now look in the papers that came with the report. There should be
- some instructions for reporting errors. Follow them carefully.
-
- If you have a letter from the credit grantor saying that the
- information in the report is wrong, it may or may not do any good to
- send it in with your letter. See the next Q.
-
- Make copies of what you are sending out. Be sure to note the date
- you sent the corrections.
-
- Q902. What exactly will the credit bureau do with my correction?
-
- Normally, they send a message to the credit grantor that originally
- reported the item to ask if it's correct. (However, see the
- preceding Q for an exception.) If the credit grantor says the
- information is wrong, the credit bureau corrects it. If the credit
- grantor doesn't respond, the credit bureau may delete the item. If
- the credit grantor says the item is correct, the bureau will tell
- you.
-
- There is currently no Federal law setting deadlines for the credit
- bureau to respond to you. However, in the consent decree filed 10
- Dec 1991, TRW promised to "verify, delete, or modify any disputed
- information in a credit report within 30 days after it receives a
- complaint."
-
- There is also currently no way to be sure that a wrong item, once
- deleted, won't reappear later. (In the consent decree of 10 Dec
- 1991, TRW promised to change its software so that erroneous items
- won't come back in subsequent reports.)
-
- Q903. My credit report shows adverse information, but I have a letter
- from the lender saying that information is false. Can I submit
- this letter to the credit bureau?
-
- The answer is "yes" for TRW and "probably not" for Equifax and Trans
- Union.
-
- Industry practice has been that if you dispute an item, the credit
- bureau ignores any documentation you send. Instead the bureau
- simply asks the credit grantor for a verification (see preceding Q).
-
- However, in the consent decree entered 10 Dec 1991, TRW promised it
- will accept "authentic proof of an error (such as a bill or a letter
- from a creditor)" when submitted by consumers. I don't know whether
- TRW is actually doing this.
-
- Q904. The credit bureau ignored my correction -- or it says an item is
- right but I can prove it's wrong. What can I do?
-
- There are several possibilities.
-
- First, you have the right to send the credit bureau a statement of
- up to 100 words about the disputed item. The bureau is required by
- law to include that statement in your report with the item. When
- you apply for a loan, the lender will see that statement and can
- take it into account.
-
- Second, you can complain to the Federal Trade Commission. The FTC
- is the U.S. government agency that oversees enforcement of the Fair
- Credit Reporting Act. If the credit bureau is clearly behaving
- unreasonably, you can file a complaint with the FTC and they will
- write to the credit bureau requesting an explanation. (The previous
- editor actually did this with a wrong item on his credit report. He
- had sent the bureau a copy of a letter from the reporting bank saying
- that the item was wrong, but the bureau did not respond until after
- they got a letter from the FTC.)
-
- Third, you can complain to your state government. The consumer
- protection division or attorney general's office is a good starting
- point. As noted various places in these FAQs, TRW settled lawsuits
- by fourteen state attorneys general with a consent decree filed on
- 10 Dec 1991. Thus state governments may be especially interested in
- hearing if TRW breaks the rules. Also, Equifax and Trans Union are
- the next logical targets for state governments and the FTC. A Texas
- assistant attorney general already announced this (December 1991).
-
- Fourth, you can sue for libel or defamation of character. (source:
- FTC staff attorney, personal letter) Obviously this is a last
- resort and will involve your paying attorney's fees. However,
- according to {Your Credit Rating}, if you sue a credit agency or
- user of credit information who willfully or negligently violates the
- Fair Credit Reporting Act, you may be awarded actual damages, court
- costs, and attorney's fees, plus punitive damages if the
- noncompliance was willful.
-
- Q905. My credit report shows transactions from other people with the
- same name or similar names. How can I get it cleaned up?
-
- See the preceding Q's in this section. You may also have to go back
- to the original lenders that reported the information and try to get
- them to correct their records.
-
- In the consent decree filed 10 Dec 1991, TRW promised to change its
- software by 31 July 1992 "to minimize cases where one consumer's
- files are mixed with another's."
-
- Q906. My spouse and I had joint credit accounts, and s/he ran up a lot
- of debts. Now we're divorced, and I want my ex's debts off my
- report.
-
- Sorry. If an account is in two names, both are responsible for
- paying the bills on time. Unless the report is actually in error,
- there's not much you can do as a matter of legal right.
-
- However, you may be able to persuade lenders to give you credit.
- Can you show that your record was clean before your marriage, that
- it was your spouse who ran up the debts, and that you've arranged
- with your creditors to pay them off over time? It's probably best
- to visit credit managers in person, and dress like a solid citizen.
- If all else fails, you should still be able to get a secured credit
- card; see section 3, "Lists of good cards," in part 2 of this list.
- By establishing a good record with the secured card, you may
- gradually get other lenders to believe in you again.
-
- Q907. I got in trouble and ran up a lot of debts I couldn't pay, and now
- my credit report looks awful. How can I get credit?
-
- Well, lenders grant credit based on how likely they think you are to
- pay off your new debts. If you have existing debts that are
- delinquent, you're not really a good risk. The best way to become a
- good risk is to clear off your old debts. There are several things
- you can do.
-
- Many cities have consumer credit counseling agencies that will help
- you develop a plan to pay off all your debts. (Usually these are
- free, run by the government or by public-interest groups. They are
- not the same as "loan consolidation services" that are actually
- for-profit finance companies.) Most will suggest that you cut up
- all your credit cards and not take on any new debt. They may help
- you negotiate with your creditors to work out a payment plan that
- you can meet, or they may coach you on how to talk to your creditors
- directly. Most lenders would rather get something than nothing. If
- you seem to be honestly trying to pay what you owe and if you have
- communicated with them, they may be willing to be patient rather
- than turn your account over for collection.
-
- If your circumstances have changed abruptly -- lost your job, major
- health problems for yourself or your family, etc. -- it's best to
- visit your creditors before your accounts are past due. Explain the
- situation directly, let them know that you do intend to pay the
- debts but need to work out reduced payments, then make those
- payments on time.
-
- {Your Credit Rating} suggests, "You may want to place a statement in
- your file, also, to explain a period of delinquency caused by some
- unexpected hardship, such as serious illness, a catastrophe, or
- unemployment, which cut off or drastically reduced your income."
-
- If you're really over your head, you may have to declare bankruptcy.
- Talk to a consumer credit counseling service before taking this
- drastic step, and check some self-help books out of the library.
- They will help you decide what you need to do and whether you need a
- lawyer.
-
- Q908. Are "credit repair" agencies legitimate?
-
- Most of them operate within the law but don't do anything for you
- that you can't do for yourself, at less expense. (Someone posted a
- quoted price of $395 in early November 1991; you can do the same
- thing for well under $50.) Before paying them any money, be sure
- you have in writing exactly what they intend to do, and any
- guarantees they make. Think seriously about saving the money and
- doing the work yourself.
-
- A typical credit-repair agency requests a copy of your credit report
- and then disputes any unfavorable items on it, whether true or not.
- (The agency doesn't have to give reasons. Just a mechanical "I
- dispute this" starts the process.) The credit bureau then follows
- the procedure above ("What exactly will the credit bureau do with my
- correction?").
-
- The credit repair feature depends on most credit grantors either no
- longer having their records or simply failing to respond within the
- credit bureau's time limit. Presto! the unconfirmed item is gone.
- If the credit grantor does confirm the item, it stays in your
- record. (You can send the bureau a 100-word explanation of the
- item, to be included in the report.)
-
- Can you do exactly the same thing? Yes, if you want to. A "credit
- repair" agency has no more clout than you do. See section 8,
- "Getting and reading your credit report," as well as the earlier Qs
- in this section. Remember that there are three separate national
- bureaus. If you clean up only your TRW report, that doesn't help if
- a credit grantor pulls a Trans Union report when you apply.
-
- Is this legal? Strictly speaking, yes. Is it honest? In my
- opinion, not when an accurate item is disputed. If you make
- deliberately false statements it may be illegal (I'm no lawyer).
-
- (end of misc.consumers FAQ on credit)
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