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Date:         Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:20:28 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nick Arnett <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Index & full-text archive of these lists

As I mentioned now and then, here and there, I've put together an
World-Wide Web archive of a number of mailing lists accessible via a
hierarchical menu system.  My system automatically converts the text of the
message to HTML, including making HREFs live.  The conversion doesn't deal
very well with detecting formatted text and it interprets all HTML it finds
in the text, since its presence can be ambiguous.  Messages are somewhat
threaded -- there are pointers to replies in each parent message.

The newest addition to this system is a full-text engine for the archived
messages.  I'm using AppleSearch via a beta of Chuck Shotten's
AppleWebSearch.cgi, through MacHTTP.  The archives are files that contain
complete threads with internal links.

This whole system is experimental, so I can't promise it'll always work
just as you expect, but it's been fairly stable for several weeks, so I'm
comfortable with this informal announcement.  You'll find a few menus that
might not work exactly as advertised and there are things that are under
construction.  What you can't see is the system I'm building for creating
and maintaining the hierarchical menu system.

Enjoy!  Feedback, bug reports, suggestions, etc. are welcome.  Please e-mail me.

The home page is:

http://asearch.mccmedia.com/

Nick


Multimedia Computing Corp.
Campbell, California
----------------------------------------------------------
"We are surrounded by insurmountable opportunity." -- Pogo
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 09:09:40 EETDST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Tero Loimuneva <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Folder Trash Not Found Error
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>; from "Dave Griffin,
              Ferris State University" at Jun 30, 94 2:28 pm

> >             copying files to Novell volumes
...
> >    I have run into a problem in that when I copy to a folder on a Novell
> >volume I get a message "volume name:folder trash not found" when I try to use
> >copyFiles or moveFiles without warning.  In the testing stage when I was
> >copying with warning I never got this error.

Did you notice that the trash can on Novel volume (3.12) is named "Network Trash
 Folder" which contains folders "Trash Can #1", "Trash Can #2" etc. and also the
 "Trash Can Usage Map" while pure Mac volume contains only the folder "trash".

        - Loimu
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jun 1994 23:47:16 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Address & number for UseLand?

>Silly question, but I can't find it anywhere-
>What is the phone number, fax number and address for UseLand?
>Need the info for a requisition...
>
>thanks-

UserLand voice:  415-369-6600    Fax:  [phone]

The office recently moved...I didn't write down the new address.

[For those who know I do phone tech support for them, that's not as odd as
it sounds...I work remotely.]

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 04:53:58 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Barry Chern <[e-mail]>
Subject:      last word

Thanks for the responses. (Yea! I finally got some!) There were some
valuable hints that spurred me on to further adventures. I'll try to
recreate some of them for you if I can. No really good solutions yet, so I
hope this generates some new ideas.

(Too bad no one seems to be trying to script Quark, so they could confirm
my findings.)

I'm going to throw the quotes in at random without attribution. You know
who you are.

> The correct way, documented in the language errata file on disk is:
> set foo to "This is a test"
> text from word 1 to word 3 of foo
> "This is a"

Ah, that would be much better. I was almost about to get into dealing with
one of those lists of characters, replacing them one at a time and putting
them back together. (almost)

BUT, unfortunately, Quark doesn't do this. It returns an error, "can't
make some data into expected type." when you try to get text from ___ to
___ of ____.

> You usually cannot change individual words in a paragraph (or string)
> unless the app supports it. I don't have Quark, but you may be able
> to to something like this?
>
> select last word of paragraph x set contents of selection to "NEW WORD"

Nope, Quark doesn't seem to have any selection properties. I was looking
for that right away when I started into this.

> If you want to do word replacement in AS strings you must cut & paste
> yourself.

I'm beginning to think I'll have to do this. Would have been better to
keep it in Quark, though.

> I don't have XPress--which is why I didn't answer earlier, but...it
> has one of the better Apple event implementations around.

Well, it looks like it does. It has a huge dictionary and reams of
documentation. It just doesn't seem to do anything right.

> I think we need to see more of the context. How are you making clear
> to XPress what contains the paragraph you care about?

Okay, if you want the grizzly details. The idea is that you've got catalog
entries with an order number at the beginning of a paragraph and the price
at the end. Say that one of the things that changes most often in the
catalog is the prices, it would be a natural use of scripting to update
them. So, I want to find the entry by the order # and change the price.
Sounded really basic to me.

I'm referencing the paragraph with the construct:

     tell every story of front document
                   tell (every paragraph where it contains "490-85-110")

(I'm not always using the second tell,  the part in parenthesis is the
crux, and has been used with many, many different statements in the course
of my test.

This way of finding the paragraph does have some bearing on the problem
with accessing words of the paragraph. For those who came in late, if I say:

     word -1 of (every paragraph where it contains "490-85-110")

I get the whole paragraph returned. If I put it into a variable, I get the
price returned as I would hope. The other issue, besides referencing the
word, is doing anything with it once i've got it. I can set the "word"
(the whole paragraph) to another word, but when I went about trying to
deal with the characters, I couldn't do anything to them.

I did find one statement that Quark wouldn't choke on, involving making
words or text with data "foo" after or at somewhere, but....nothing seemed
to happen! It executed, but "foo" never appeared anywhere in the document.

Late-breaking news in the word defining scene: I just found that I could
get less than the whole paragraph returned if I use:

     text of (every paragraph where it contains "490-85-110")

(Didn't I do that before?)

BUT...now, the last word is returned as just the two digits after the
decimal!!! (Applescript returned the whole price as a word.)
Seems to be a catch at every turn. Oh, yeah, I also didn't mention that
the price should be a different color than the rest of the text, which is
another reason it would be better to be able to refer to the word in Quark
and deal with it there. sigh.

Barry
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 20:57:44 +0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Todd Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject:      ScriptLink

I am new to the list so here is a brief introduction...

My company has just announced a Newton developer kit which lets you
send AppleScript from the Newton to a Macintosh server, execute it
and return the results to the Newton, in a secure multi-user environment
with full logging etc. Let me know if you would like a copy of the
press release.

I have written most of the AppleScript we use in our sample programs,
primarily with FileMaker Pro. I look forward to learning whatever the
AppleScript SDK and Danny Goodman couldn't teach me!

I'm especially interested if anyone has any good samples scripts for
Eudora or SITComm.

Regards,

Todd

--

Todd Hooper                                Internet  : [e-mail]
Marketing Director                         AppleLink : MOMENTUM.AUS
Momentum Pty Ltd                           Phone     : [phone]
Western Australia                          Fax       : [phone]
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:42:24 CDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mario Garcia <[e-mail]>
Subject:      help

Help.
How do I post ?
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 10:18:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: last word

At 04:53 7/1/94 -0400, Barry Chern wrote:
>(Too bad no one seems to be trying to script Quark, so they could confirm
>my findings.)

XPress is being scripted heavily around the country, producing newspaper
classified sections, large catalogs with pictures, etc etc.  When I talk to
the portion of these users who call UserLand for support with Frontier
scripting of Quark, I tend to get EMail addresses on commercial services,
not here, when I ask.  And, there are active discussions in such places as
the Desktop Publishing forum on CIS, and the UserLand forum on CIS (which
has a section devoted to XPress).

There may also be an active area on the Internet...I haven't looked.



>> I don't have XPress--which is why I didn't answer earlier, but...it
>> has one of the better Apple event implementations around.
>
>Well, it looks like it does. It has a huge dictionary and reams of
>documentation. It just doesn't seem to do anything right.

On the contrary, XPress' scripting support was put in by a developer to
took great care to implement things according to the Registry.  And worked
hard in many cases to be sure that his reading of the Registry agreed with
others (sometimes I agreed with him, sometimes I didn't).

Nonetheless, there are glitches.  There is also a simple fact:  what one
expects out of an application may not be what one gets, yet BOTH your
expectations and the application can be completely right.  There are many
different ways to correctly implement this stuff.

Since you don't seem to be having luck changing one word of the contents of
a textbox, you may have to get the whole contents, change them in your
script, and put them back as a unit.  I would hope not.

You should also look around for Quark Xtensions which help with this stuff.
There are some, and more appear regularly, so I'm told.  [No, I don't have
a source to point you to.]

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:24:16 EST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Aaron E. McClennen" <[e-mail]>
Organization: Habitat for Humanity International
Subject:      Re: error -610

John Baxter was right.
I duplicated the error -610 error last night. Frontier Runtime would have put up
the program sharing password dialog, except Frontier was in the background.

Now that I has replicated the problem How to deal with it. . .

Thanks for all the help.

[e-mail]

Habitat for Humanity International
"Building houses with God's people in need."
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:42:06 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian C. Forney" <umich.edu@?C~.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ScriptLink
In-Reply-To:  Your message <[e-mail]>
              of Fri, 1 Jul 1994 20:57:44 +0800

I'm sorry about that. Just ignore it. Thanks.
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 15:18:35 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy J. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: help

--- Mario Garcia wrote:
Help.
How do I post ?
--- end of quoted material ---

You just did. Below is the help file (aka the monthly harange -- which I am
considering making a bi-weekly harange).

Special Note: please send notes NOT to me but to
[e-mail]. I wouldn't want Fred to miss out on the fun!
Also, if one of us goes on vacation, your mail will be handled rather than
sitting around for awhile.

-A

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 21:18:51 +0200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dario Lopez =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4sten?= <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Subscribe

I want to subscribe. Is this correct or am I just messing things up?

____________________________________________________________________________=
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Dario Lopez K=E4sten,
student of Computational Linguistics, G=F6teborg University, SWEDEN

"This is the working hour. We are paid by those who learn from our mistakes"
 /Tears for Fears

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 15:47:19 -0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jason Titus <[e-mail]>
Organization: Open Data Solutions, Inc.
Subject:      Fwd: Applescript Questions...

For the longest time, I have a few questions about Applescript that I can't
seem to find the answer to...

1.  What determines the speed of Applescript?  I'm on a 6100 and setting
properties in FaceSpan is really slow (along with doing most other thngs in
Ascript).


2.  Where can I get good info on working with scripting objects?  I'm pretty
new to oop, and am in the process of trying to design an object to carry a
bunch of data throughout an app.  Any sources on oop concepts would be
great...

3.  I'm also looking into how to write an OSAX...  Is there any code on the
net for some?  The 'playsound' wasn't quite enough for this novice....

Any help would be much appreciated!

Jason.
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 15:45:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Rob Dewhirst <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Excel scripts

I pages back through all the digests I had and couldn't find any good examples
of scripting excel.  Anyone have some scripts they want to send me?
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jul 1994 15:46:13 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Applescript Questions...

>For the longest time, I have a few questions about Applescript that I can't
>seem to find the answer to...
>
>1.  What determines the speed of Applescript?  I'm on a 6100 and setting
>properties in FaceSpan is really slow (along with doing most other thngs in
>Ascript).

Are you running with the Modern Memory Manager turned on?  You should be.
It should help in this situation, since there's a lot of memory management
going on, and MMM really does speed that up.

   --John


--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jul 1994 19:46:06 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Borre Ludvigsen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Writing to the modem port.

I want to send strings to a Miniboard sitting on the end of the modem
port of my MacHTTP server. In Hypertalk the command looks like this:

  on mousedown
    sendSPort "z" & cd fld 1 & "005E"
    sendSPort "z1100005d"
  end mousedown
  on mouseup
    sendSPort "z0000005e"
  end mouseup

The first part sets the speed to be sent to a motor being run by the
Miniboard (the Miniboard is a small single board MC6811 computer that I'm
using to control a LEGO pan & tilt unit for a small video camera) and
sends the "motor on" command to a monitor program on the board. The
second part when the mouse comes back up is to stop the motor. Later I
also want my script to read the port too, returning values from sensors
that tell me which way the camera is pointing exactly.

I want to do this remotely by pressing buttons on a WWW page. Would
someone like to volunteer the script code that picks up the click from
the html code and sends the equivelant string to the modem port?

- Barre

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
   Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold Regional College- N-1750 HALDEN - Norway
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 vox:[phone]/home+4769341922/direct+4769185577ext219fax:[phone]
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
   <A HREF="http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no/"> Come and visit! </A>
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jul 1994 17:59:15 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mark Hadfield <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Excel scripts

>I pages back through all the digests I had and couldn't find any=
 good examples
>of scripting excel.  Anyone have some scripts they want to send=
 me?


I downloaded these from AppleLink a while ago - very useful.

AUTHOR: ADVLOGTECH (I can't remember his name).

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DMake Commands
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   make new Window
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DExists Commands
Answer found in the result window of Script Editor
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   exists Window "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   exists table "Table_1"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   exists Range "Tom"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   exists Cell "fred"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   exists Document "AE Test"
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DDelete Commands
No reply, check spreadsheet for deletion
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   delete Cell "Fred"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   delete table "Table_1"
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DDuplicate
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   duplicate Cell "Bob" to Cell "Fred"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   duplicate Cell "R1C1" to Cell "R6C1"
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DMove
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   move Cell "R1C1" to Cell "R6C1"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   move Cell "Bob" to Cell "R1C1"
end tell
=20
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DRead Cell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   value of Cell 1 of Row 9
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set Cell 1 of Row 9 to "999"
end tell

These Applescript scripts are known to work with Excel
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DCell Scripts
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set the font of Cell "R1C1" to "Times"
end tell
=20
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
--this also increases the height of the entire row
   set the size of Cell "R1C1" to "36"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set the name of Cell "R1C1" to "Texas_Cities"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
--cell should show 25
   set the formula of Cell "R1C1" to "=3D5*5"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --You make a cell bold by setting its bold property to True or=
 False
   set the bold of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --You make a cell italic by setting its italic property to True=
 or False
   set the italic of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --You make a cell underlined by setting its underline property=
 to True or
=46alse
   set the underline of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --You make a cell strikethrough by setting its strikethrough property=
 to Tru
or False
   set the strikethrough of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --You make a cell outline by setting its outline property to True=
 or False
   set the outline of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --You make a cell shadow by setting its shadow property to True=
 or False
   set the shadow of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --This command sets all text style properties to False
   set the plain of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --This command sets all text style properties to False
   set the plain of Cell "R1C1" to true
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --text the formatting code for a cell as indicated
   --in the Number dialog in the Format menu
   set the number format of Cell "R1C1" to "0.00%"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
--You must use the index (1-7) for the alignment found in the
-- Excel Function Reference page 15-16
   set the alignment of Cell "R1C1" to "3"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --the borders are set using a macro code found o page 39 of the=
 Excel Functi
Reference
   set the left border of Cell "R1C1" to "5"
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DRange Scripts
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set the font of Range "Table_1" to "times"
end tell
=20
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DRow Scripts
=20
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --set the height of a row of cells
   set the height of Row 6 to "24"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set the font of Row 7 to "times"
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DColumn Scripts
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set the font of Column 1 to "times"
end tell
=20
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --set the width of a column of cells
   set the width of Column 2 to "14"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   --set the name of a column of cells
   set the name of Column 2 to "STATES"
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DWindow Scripts
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   get name of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the type of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the selection of Window 1 as string
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the user selection of Window 1 as string
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the bounds of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the titled of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the index of Window "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the floating of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the modal of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the resizable of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the zoomed of Window 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the visible of Window 1
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DDocument Scripts
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the pathname of Document "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the type of Document "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the cell protection of Document "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the object protection of Document "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the number of windows of Document "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the selection of Document "AE Test" as string
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the user selection of Document "AE Test" as string
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the protection of Document "AE Test"
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the name of Document 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the modified of Document 1
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DApplication Scripts
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the name
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the Calculation
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the Iteration
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the selection as string
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the clipboard as string
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the frontmost
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the version as string
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DChart Scripts
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the number of series of Chart 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the type of Chart 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the variant of Chart 1
end tell
=20
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   the has legend of Chart 1
end tell
=20
This file is for scripters trying to tap into Excel with AppleScript.
=20
There are virtually no syntaxical examples available for communicating
specifically with Excel via Applescript. And as usual Microsoft does=
 everything
a little differently. If you have tried to use TableServer scripts=
 to access
Excel you will know what I mean. Some work and some don't.
=20
Using Excel and the Script Editor, and working by trial and error,=
 I have found
that the scripts below  work with Excel. Hopefully, you can use them=
 to quickly
climb the learning curve in building your own scripts to manipulate=
 Excel.
=20
Please post any scripts that you have used successfully with Excel.
=20
J.P. Adams
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DReading Data=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=20
--Reads a range of Excel cells in R1C1 format
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   get Range "R1C1:R3C1" of Document 1 as text
   display dialog result
end tell
=20
--Reads a range of Excel cells by name
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   get Range "TOM" of Document 1 as text
   display dialog result
end tell
=20
--Reads an Excel cell by number
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   get value of Cell 3 of Row 2 of Document 1
   display dialog result
end tell
=20
--Reads a value from a cell by name
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   get value of Cell "Fred" of Document 1
end tell
=20
--Reads a value from a cell by "R1C1" format
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   get value of Cell "R1C1" of Document 1
   display dialog result
end tell
=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DWriting Data=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=20
--Writes to a range of Excel cells using R1C1 format
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set Range "R1C1:R3C1" of Document 1 to {"4", "5", "6"}
end tell
=20
--Writes to a range of a Excel cells using name format
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set Range "Tom" of Document 1 to {"4", "5", "6"}
end tell
=20
--Writes to an Excel cell by number
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set value of Cell 3 of Row 2 of Document 1 to "99"
end tell
=20
--Writes to an Excel cell by name
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set value of Cell "Fred" of Document 1 to "99"
end tell
=20
--Writes to an Excel cell by R1C1 format
tell application "ALT2:Applications:Excel 4.0 =9F:Microsoft Excel"
   set value of Cell "R1C1" of Document 1 to "99"
end tell
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jul 1994 18:45:07 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         James Edward Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: working with nonscriptable applic.

Watching for a window to open in another app, is almost impossible.
It would be difficult even from raw C code. If you find a way, Id sure
like to know. Meanwhile, as to other things to do with non-scriptable
apps. Check out AutoType/AutoClick, an osax I wrote to let you send
key strokes and mouse clicks to unscriptable apps. KeyQuencer and
QuicKeys could both do it as well. Otherwise controling non-scriptable
apps is hard.

-James
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jul 1994 03:11:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Barry Chern <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Excel scripts (via Digest)

So, is there a source anywhere with a translation of all these MIME
commands, so I could maybe at least attempt a find/replace of some sort on
a file like this?
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jul 1994 11:14:03 BST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Simon Jensen-Fellows <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: working with nonscriptable applic.

I haven't explicitly tried this, but in most C apps, when you call
FrontWindow() you check to make sure that the handle returned refers to
your window, not the window of another app. Presumably, you could do
the reverse and look for a window that doesn't belong to your app ?

Just a guess.

Simon.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jul 1994 14:02:37 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         INRA000 <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re[2]: working with nonscriptable applic.
In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of MON 04 JUL 1994 18:14:03 EDT

>I haven't explicitly tried this, but in most C apps, when you call
>FrontWindow() you check to make sure that the handle returned refers to
>your window, not the window of another app. Presumably, you could do
>the reverse and look for a window that doesn't belong to your app ?

    FrontWindow() returns the front window in *your layer*. The checking
you're thinking of dates back to the time of DAs under pre-MultiFinder
System 6. One is still supposed to check that the FrontWindow() in your
layer is one of your own windows, and not something put there by the
System. Nothing in the System currently puts windows into applications'
layers, but that could change in the future...

    Examining another application's windows could be done from an INIT,
which can execute while another application is active. It gets kind of
hairy, though, and one can't collect much meaningful information. It
would be possible to determine the title of the window, but not much
else.

    Cheers,

    Mark Aiken
    [e-mail]
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jul 1994 17:35:12 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]>
Organization: Sage Design
Subject:      Re(2): last word

I am quite familiar with scripting Quark, but unfortunately (for you) all of
this scripting has been done with Frontier.

In Frontier, getting the last word of a paragragh could be done like

with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo]
  wordcount = count(paragraph[bar],word)
  theword = get(paragraph[bar].word[wordcount])

'theword' will be the text of the last word of the paragraph. (Please note
that non a-z or 0-9 characters are not considered to be a part of the word.
This can be changed by use of the delimittable property.)

The support for scripting in Quark is extensive, as almost anything can be
done. I have on many occasions been extremely frustrated by Quark not
appearing to respond to scripts correctly, but have always found out that the
error was mine. Quark is extremely picky about how you specify something or
how you ask for info about something.

I'm not sure if this will help you at all, so I'll stop now. Let me know if
you have any other questions.

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Date:         Mon, 4 Jul 1994 17:52:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Re(2): last word

>I am quite familiar with scripting Quark, but unfortunately (for you) all of
>this scripting has been done with Frontier.
>
>In Frontier, getting the last word of a paragragh could be done like
>
>with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo]
>  wordcount = count(paragraph[bar],word)
>  theword = get(paragraph[bar].word[wordcount])
>
>'theword' will be the text of the last word of the paragraph. (Please note
>that non a-z or 0-9 characters are not considered to be a part of the word.
>This can be changed by use of the delimittable property.)

Hi, David...
   Thanks for the post.  You *ought* to be able to reduce your most welcome
example to (assuming you don't need wordcount for something else, of
course)

with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo]
  theword = get(paragraph[bar].word[-1])

Negative indices should count from the end of a container forward.

Fairly direct translation of the above

tell application "QuarkXPress"  -- or whatever
    tell textbox foo of page 1 of document 1
       set theword to word -1 of paragraph bar
                --or:  last word of paragraph bar
    end tell
end tell

I don't, of course, know whether the translation works.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:20:12 +0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Todd Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scripting FileMaker Pro

Is anyone on the list scripting FileMaker Pro? I've found it pretty
difficult, even with a set of sample scripts from FM Pro 2.0.

Is there a better source of documentation on scripting FileMaker
than the standard FileMaker manuals?

Two problems I am having:

1) Get data returns records which are the nearest match e.g.

  set rec to Get Data (first Record whose first Cell = partnum)
  of Window dbname


with a partnum of "1" will return records "100", "110" etc. Is there any way to
do an exact match?

2) Can you get a count of found records as opposed to total records? E.g.

Show (every Record of Database "mydatabase" whose Cell "Name" = "Todd")
        set n to (Count of Database "mydatabase" Class Record)

returns the total number of records rather than the found set.

Thanks for any help.

Todd
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 07:40:12 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Debugging an applet properly

I'm writing a large AppleScript applet, and have two problems:

1. I need to have a reliable way to refer to the applet's own
parent folder, because that's where I store some configuration
files the applet uses (I donUt want to hardcode the path).
"path to me" returns the path to the applet only when it's running
as an applet. When it's run from inside Script Editor, "me" is
interpreted to be Script Editor -- not the desirable effect. I'm
tired of having to hardcode in a path every time I need to debug
the applet; is there any way to say, path to this very script file?

2. I have a large idle handler in my applet, and there doesn't seem
to be a way to have Script Editor send an idle message to the applet
when it's being debugged in it. Consequently, I have to comment out
the on idle and end idle statements every time I debug. It's annoying,
like item 1.

I would appreciate any suggestions.

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:49:30 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]>
Organization: Sage Design
Subject:      Re(2): Re(2): last word

>You *ought* to be able to reduce your most welcome
>example to (assuming you don't need wordcount for something else, of
>course)

>with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo]
>  theword = get(paragraph[bar].word[-1])

>Negative indices should count from the end of a container forward.

Indeed they do! Thanks! It never occured to me... it makes perfect sense, but
somehow I never thought... wow :>

If paragraph bar (in the Quark document) is
  Go to the end of the road to see what you can see.

theword will be 'see'

Please note that the period is missing.

  set(delimittable[1].delimititem["."],canstartorendorbecontainedinword)

will tell Quark to include period in the set of characters that can start or
end or be contained in a word. Other possible values are notwordmember,
canstartorendword, canbecontainedinword. These changes to the delimit table
are not saved in documents or in the Quark app itself, so they must be set
every time if your script needs them.


  with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo]
    thedata = get(word[contents == bar].offset)

thedata will be a list of the integer locations of the word bar in the
textbox if there is more than one match, an integer otherwise. If you want to
search a whole textflow (or story, textflow[1] seems to me to be identical to
story[1])

  with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo].story[1]

will search the entire textflow (a potentially slow process) and also return
a list or integer.

One more potential problem (it has caused me many frustrating moments)

  with document[1].page[foo].textbox[bar]

foo may be any type that is coercable to an integer.

If bar is a string, Quark assumes that it is the name of the textbox rather
than its number.

Don't give up! Quark is extremely scriptable, it really does work.

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=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:02:52 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]>
Organization: Sage Design
Subject:      Re: working with nonscriptable applic.

>I would like to create an Applescript interface that "watches" for a
>particular icon or window to open in a nonscriptable application
>(FirstClass) and then launches another application while maintaining the...


Why not check to see if the application file is busy (ie. executing)?

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=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:31:44 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Davies <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Macromedia Director and AppleScript

Does anyone know how I can get Macromedia Director (v4.0) to exchange data
with an AppleScript script or app. I would have thought that with
Director's extensive scripting language (Lingo) it would be able to pass
data to and from another application but I can't see any way of doing it.

Thanks for any help...


David Davies ([e-mail])

Research Fellow in Computer Based Learning
Department of Physiology, The Medical School,
University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT. UK.

Tel: [phone]        Fax: [phone]

http://med152.bham.ac.uk/http/signatures/davies.html
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:58:52 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Comments:     Resent-From: David Avery <DAVID@DARTCMS1>
Comments:     Originally-From: "Evad, Paul" <[e-mail]>
From:         David Avery <[e-mail]>
Subject:      FilMaker windows

This may not follow under the applescript class of questions, so I hope I'm
not out of line posting this.

I have been dabbling with applescript and I can see how I can create an
applescript to set a FileMaker window to a certain position and size. However
we have about 20 users for the database on the network and not everyone has
applescript access. I was hoping to be able to use the send apple event in
the FileMaker script maker to do this, but I can't seem to get FileMaker to
send the command to itself.

Has anyone tackled a similar problem?

- Paul Evad
[e-mail]
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 10:07:20 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Rob Dewhirst <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Excel scripts (via Digest)

Barry Chern <[e-mail]> writes:

>So, is there a source anywhere with a translation of all these MIME
>commands, so I could maybe at least attempt a find/replace of some
>sort on a file like this?

I just put them on gaea, along with a couple of other examples
from the same source.
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:00:35 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kee Nethery [phone] <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Macromedia Director and AppleScript

>Does anyone know how I can get Macromedia Director (v4.0) to exchange data
>with an AppleScript script or app. I would have thought that with
>Director's extensive scripting language (Lingo) it would be able to pass
>data to and from another application but I can't see any way of doing it.
>

There is a QuickTime Player that can be used within Director that can
trigger AppleScript. You can define hot buttons inside a QuickTime movie
and when the user presses that button you either transfer to another
quicktime movie or you trigger an ApleScript. It is Video Navigator sold by
Radiant Enterprises <[e-mail]> I understand it works
quite well from within Director.

Kee Nethery

_________________________________________________________________
Kagi Engineering, 1442-A Walnut #362, Berkeley, CA 94709-1405 USA
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 10:10:50 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Excel scripts (via Digest)
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 05 Jul 94 10:07:20 PDT"

Everyone,

>>So, is there a source anywhere with a translation of all these MIME
>>commands, so I could maybe at least attempt a find/replace of some
>>sort on a file like this?
>
>I just put them on gaea, along with a couple of other examples
>from the same source.

You'll find them in

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/scripts/ExcelExamples.cpt.hqx

Enjoy.

pf
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:25:38 EST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John P. Doughtie Jr." <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Returned mail

>John,
>
>I got a couple returned mail messages (attached). Was there a problem?
>
>drc
>
Dave,

Yes, something crashed my mac AGAIN!

Don't worry about the mail -- you may get more of them.

Thanks for checking.

John
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:02:57 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Erik Speckman <[e-mail]>
Subject:      What are FrontMost and FaceSpan.

I scrounged AppleScript off of some PowerMac disk images on one of Apple's
servers so I don't have much.

I was wondering what FaceSpan and FrontMost are.  I plan on buying
something about AppleScript in the next month or so and I am trying to see
what comes with what packages.

Thanks
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:19:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: What are FrontMost and FaceSpan.
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 05 Jul 94 09:02:57 -0900"

>I was wondering what FaceSpan and FrontMost are.  I plan on buying
>something about AppleScript in the next month or so and I am trying to see
>what comes with what packages.

Frontmost is the original name of FaceSpan (also referred to as FaceSpam by
the mailing list wags). The name was changed when the AppleScript Scripter's
Kit was released in Dec 93 (it is also included in the AppleScript Developer's
Kit and the Updates--for those who bought earlier versions of the Scripter's
and Developer's kits). In the simplest terms, FaceSpan is a user interface
builder for your AppleScripts. It allows you to create windows, dialog boxes,
etc. with attached scripts. Though it is a bit buggy, some users on the list
seem to have used it successfully.

I'm sure others will contribute more to this sketchy bit of info.

pf
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:12:31 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]>
Organization: Sage Design
Subject:      Re: Quark Halftone screen bombs

>    I'm having some trouble with Quark 3.3 and scripting.  I wrote a script
to
>update all of our templates, and all works fine, except sometimes the
halftone
>screen command causes Quark to bomb.
>
>Yes, sometimes.  Usually it's tied to the page, but I've had one instance
where
>it wasn't (the script bombed a couple of times, then worked.)
>
>Has anyone else has trouble with this?  I'm wanting to set up a script to
make
>printing one step for any printer in the building, and we like different
line
>screens for different resolutions.  I could just omit this command, but ...
>
>Any ideas?

There is a patch for Quark that fixes a problem with halftone sceens/dot
shapes etc...

It is free and available from Quark. It might fix your problem.

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 10:08:59 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "B. Bruce Brinson" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: What are FrontMost and FaceSpan.

>I scrounged AppleScript off of some PowerMac disk images on one of Apple's
>servers so I don't have much.
>
>I was wondering what FaceSpan and FrontMost are.  I plan on buying
>something about AppleScript in the next month or so and I am trying to see
>what comes with what packages.
>
Why not just BUY one of the packages?

Bruce

>B. Bruce Brinson
>Internet    : [e-mail]
>AppleLink : b.brinson
>FAX           : [phone]
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 18:11:56 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Paul G Smith <[e-mail]>
Organization: commstalk, & Full Moon Software Inc
Subject:      Mailing list for ScriptWizard users/info

Hi folks,

We are going to start a mailing list for users of, and people
interested in, ScriptWizard. This mailing list will run on our UUCP
server here at Full Moon Software, via email only.

To join the list, or remove yourself from the list, or to ask
administrative questions, please send email to:
        [e-mail]
(please note this list is administered manually, so it may take
up to a few days to add or remove names).

The ScriptWizard mailing list will be a forum for us to announce new
versions, and (most important) for users to discuss their likes,
dislikes, and suggestions for new versions of the product. It is not
intended to stop people discussing general scripting issues that relate
to SW on the MACSCRPT mailing list, but we expect it will help to limit
commercially oriented traffic on the main MACSCRPT list (which, we
are sure, will please the MACSCRPT moderators :-) ).


best regards, Paul

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 10:21:52 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Debugging an applet properly

>1. I need to have a reliable way to refer to the applet's own
>parent folder, because that's where I store some configuration
>files the applet uses (I donUt want to hardcode the path).
>"path to me" returns the path to the applet only when it's running
>as an applet. When it's run from inside Script Editor, "me" is
>interpreted to be Script Editor -- not the desirable effect. I'm
>tired of having to hardcode in a path every time I need to debug
>the applet; is there any way to say, path to this very script file?
>
        There does not appear to be anything built into AppleScript to do
this, as some folks have been asking me about that for OSAMenu so they can
change their script names, etc.   I'll probably put an event into OSAMenu
that can return that currently running script's FSSpec, but that doesn't
help you.

        It MIGHT be possible for an OSAX to find out the info you need, but
it wouldn't be trivial...


Leonard

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Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:36:31 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Scott Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject:      stuffit & applescript samples?

Hello, newbie here!

    Would somebody kindly furnish a pointer to sample
applescripts which demonstrate control of Stuffit Deluxe?

[ Ultimately, I want to be able to replace each file over
500k (or some arbitrary size) with a compressed one on a
large disk(s) of archived (mostly Illustrator and Photoshop) files.
Note that the folder structure and smaller files remain unchanged.]

Thanks very much!

--Scott D. Williams
[e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 2 Jul 1994 14:38:29 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Number of windows open

My dad has this nasty habit of leaving applications running after he is done
with them because he clicks the close box and forgets to choose "quit."  Not
only is this annoying, it causes memory crashes when I want to run a large
program.

Sooooo, I'm writing a script to yell at him when it finds an application with
no windows open... my only problem, I don't know how to tell if a
non-scriptable application has any windows open.  Does anyone know a way to
do this?  If it's not possible, would it be hard to write an addition to do
it?

I'm using Applescript 1.0.1 with Finder 7.1 on a Performa 475.

Thanks!  :)

~josh~
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 12:13:22 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Rennie Innis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: FilMaker windows

In message <[e-mail]> Macintosh Scripting
Systems writes:
> This may not follow under the applescript class of questions, so I hope I'm
> not out of line posting this.
>
> I have been dabbling with applescript and I can see how I can create an
> applescript to set a FileMaker window to a certain position and size. However
> we have about 20 users for the database on the network and not everyone has
> applescript access. I was hoping to be able to use the send apple event in
> the FileMaker script maker to do this, but I can't seem to get FileMaker to
> send the command to itself.
>
> Has anyone tackled a similar problem?
>
> - Paul Evad
> [e-mail]

Have you tried to create a "dummy file" which is a separate file just for the
purpose of receiving the Appleevent and then passing it on the the original db?


Rennie Innis
Regional Occupation Program
Mendocino County Office of Education
"Nerd Heaven"
707-937-1100 lab
707-937-2615 home
707-937-0733 fax
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:06:29 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Terry Thiel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Mailing list for ScriptWizard users/info
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

What is Script Wizard?
-Terry
###
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:13:12 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Mailing list for ScriptWizard users/info
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 05 Jul 94 14:06:29 CDT"

Terry,

>What is Script Wizard?

Check out the press release in

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/PRs/ScriptWizardPR.sit.hqx

Hope that helps.

pf


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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:26:35 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Frank Concannon <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Measuring Idle time under script

Greetings

I would like to auto powerdown a Mac that has been sitting Idle for several
hours. Is there a way to find how long a Mac has been sitting Idle using
AppleScript?

Frank C.
R&E
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:18:14 EST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Number of windows open

>My dad has this nasty habit of leaving applications running after he is done
>with them because he clicks the close box and forgets to choose "quit."  Not
>only is this annoying, it causes memory crashes when I want to run a large
>program.
>
>Sooooo, I'm writing a script to yell at him when it finds an application with
>no windows open... my only problem, I don't know how to tell if a
>non-scriptable application has any windows open.  Does anyone know a way to
>do this?  If it's not possible, would it be hard to write an addition to do
>it?

I remembered something similar having been done and found it on info-mac:

/info-mac/gui/quit-it-121.hqx

Here is the description from the abstracts file:

----
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Quit It
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 22:44:35 +0100

Enclosed is Quit It v1.2.1, which is a replacement of v1.1 and
v1.2. Please remove all versions 1.2, because they contain a
serious bug!!!

A description of Quit It:
A Macintosh is very easy to use, but neverteless there are naive
users who don't understand anything about processes etc. All they
see is windows on the screen, and to stop working they just close
the window using the close box. But this leaves the application open,
which can lead to confusion on one side, and on a shortage of memory
on the other side. Quit It can take away this problem: whenever the
last window of an application is closed using the close box, it will
quit the application. That's all there is to it.
----

Of course, if you insist on reinventing the wheel with Applescript ...

:-)

Klaus

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Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:26:03 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: help

>Help.
>How do I post ?

You just did!


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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:43:24 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy J. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Subscribe
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Dario Lopez =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4sten?=" at Jul 1,
              94 09:18:51 pm

Dario Lopez =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4sten?= hath writ:
>
> I want to subscribe. Is this correct or am I just messing things up?

Send mail to "[e-mail]" and in the body of the message put

subscribe macscrpt <your name>

(replace "<your name>" with your actual name. For example, I would type
"subscribe macscrpt Andy Williams")

If you get stuck, send mail to [e-mail]

-A

--
Andy J. Williams ([e-mail])
Manager, Computer Resource Center, Dartmouth College

"Doing strange things in the name of art..."
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 17:27:41 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Data <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Kill Faceless Processes
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

hi,
        is there a utilities that will lemme kill those "faceless"
processes that does not show up in the application menus? thanx much.


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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 16:46:15 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Kill Faceless Processes
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 05 Jul 94 17:27:41 EDT"

>        is there a utilities that will lemme kill those "faceless"
>processes that does not show up in the application menus? thanx much.
>

You might want to take a look at one of these two.

ftp://mac.archive.umich.edu/mac/util/developer/peekaboo1.1.cpt.hqx
ftp://mac.archive.umich.edu/mac/util/multifinder/processwatcher2.0.sit.hqx

I'm not sure about peekaboo, but I have used processwatcher for killing fba's.

pf
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 17:52:17 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Data <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Kill Faceless Processes
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

> You might want to take a look at one of these two.
> ftp://mac.archive.umich.edu/mac/util/developer/peekaboo1.1.cpt.hqx
> ftp://mac.archive.umich.edu/mac/util/multifinder/processwatcher2.0.sit.hqx
> I'm not sure about peekaboo, but I have used processwatcher for killing fba's.

thanx much. btw, peekaboo is a stupid afterdark module :(
(i remember downloaded it in the past)

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 18:32:39 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Kill Faceless Processes

Excuse me if I'm totally offbase, but it seems to me it wouldn't be that hard
to write a script which simply presented a dialog box for each app running (I
think this would get faceless ones too) and give you an option to quit.  I
haven't tried it so it might be wrong, but I thought it might help.

~josh~
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 18:17:00 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Kill Faceless Processes

>hi,
>        is there a utilities that will lemme kill those "faceless"
>processes that does not show up in the application menus? thanx much.

Hypercard works pretty good.  Type "close <app name>" into the message box.

Steve Martin (Please don't ask, I'm not the actor.)
  Internet: [e-mail]   NewtonMail: [e-mail]
Compuserve: 72727,1471    AppleLink: SteveMartin  AOL: Steve Mart
WWW: http://www.metronet.com/1/HomePages/martin which contains...
Upcoming letterboxed movie TV schedule and latest version of Dockernaut and
lots of links.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 19:46:01 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Data <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Kill Faceless Processes
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

> to write a script which simply presented a dialog box for each app running (I
> think this would get faceless ones too) and give you an option to quit.  I
> haven't tried it so it might be wrong, but I thought it might help.

would someone like to volunteer and write a script that does such?
thanx much

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 22:30:54 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      scripting control panels...

Does anyone out there know how to script control panels using
applescript?  I am interested if scripting the extensions manager control
panel.  Can anyone out there help?

Anthony

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jul 1994 23:35:59 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Data <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Kill Faceless Processes
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

> ftp://mac.archive.umich.edu/mac/util/multifinder/processwatcher2.0.sit.hqx
> I'm not sure about peekaboo, but I have used processwatcher for killing fba's.

i downloaded ProcessWatcher, it appears that it can kill most of the
faceless processes, except Gimmick that keyboard hack, anyone have any
sugggestions or guesses why it probabaly did ont work? thanx much


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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 00:57:33 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Data <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Control Strip Modules Archive Site
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

> Does anyone out there know how to script control panels using
> applescript?  I am interested if scripting the extensions manager control
> panel.  Can anyone out there help?

as the archive maintainer , i would like you all to know about
availability of this control-strip-modules-site (i am also thinking of
puttin a script and a source dir in the archive)

attached is my announcement posting on usenet.
--- cut from posting ---
Hi, Control Strip Fans:

  Welcome to the first "Control Strip Module Archive" on the net(as far
as I know and hope) :-) It will run 24 hours a day, 7 days a week until
the end of August 1994 (I will have an IP address change then,  so just
email me and i will send you the new site address)

                    The current archive site is at:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  matrix29.schapiro.dorm.columbia.edu
                           128.59.222.82

To ensure that this archive is up-to-date,  I will be compiling Freeware,
Shareware, and "any-other-ware" Modules off the net, CompuServe, America
OnLine, etc. on a regular basis(ususally dialy). However, Control Strip
Developers, please upload or emai me your new module(s), and It will be
available to the net within 1-4 hours.

The modules contained in this archive are NOT commerical softwares.

I would like to thank the following people for their advice and support:
(the names are in the order of their product releases)
Mr. Robert S. Mah<[e-mail]>, author of "Control Strip Patcher"
Patrick McClaughry<[e-mail]>, author of "Ballon Help ME"
Jeremy Kezer<[e-mail]>, author of "Jeremy's Control Strip Modules"

Last but maybe the most, please do expect some connection refused messages
as well as the slow transfer rate between the hours of 20:00 - 24:00 EST, for
the simple reason that I am at the console (unfortunately system 7 does
still
crash too often)

have fun.

/Data <[e-mail]>
Matrix 29.12 Op and Control Strip Modules Archive Maintainer.
7/2/1994

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:07:16 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]>
Organization: Sage Design
Subject:      Need real text editor

I am sooooo tired of the wimpy 32K file size limit that TeachText and now
(why?!?) SimpleText have. My frustration is compounded by the fact that we
use the FirstClass BBS as our UUCP Gateway and mail thing-a-ma-bobber, and it
automatically (no choice) takes any mail message larger than 32K and turns it
into a TeachText type text file attachment! In my mind, this is one of the
top ten examples of frustration.

Where o where is a replacement for the all too wimpy offerings from Apple. I
want a program that will take over SimpleText's file type and creator
signature and let me open whatever file I want.

Losing it... please help...

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 08:34:38 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mark Alldritt <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Debugging an applet properly

Hi,

Script Tools allows you to figure out the file spec of the running script
(compiled script applications only).  Try the following:

get process (get current process)
display dialog ((application file of the result) as string)

Cheers
-Mark
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 13:47:17 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Data <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

> Where o where is a replacement for the all too wimpy offerings from Apple. I
> want a program that will take over SimpleText's file type and creator
> signature and let me open whatever file I want.

have you tried BBEdit? it was such a cool editor, until it went
commercial, but you can still get the lite version on sumex.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:47:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Folder Trash Not Found Error

>> >             copying files to Novell volumes
>...
>> >    I have run into a problem in that when I copy to a folder on a Novell
>> >volume I get a message "volume name:folder trash not found" when I try to
>>use
>> >copyFiles or moveFiles without warning.  In the testing stage when I was
>> >copying with warning I never got this error.
>
>Did you notice that the trash can on Novel volume (3.12) is named "Network
>Trash
> Folder" which contains folders "Trash Can #1", "Trash Can #2" etc. and also
>the
> "Trash Can Usage Map" while pure Mac volume contains only the folder "trash".
>
>        - Loimu

Drifting of the scripting topic this is true for all AFP servers (check out
Windows NT Advanced Server AppleTalk services for example).

So this might be something worth noting in general for networked disks.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:26:22 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Dr. Barrett Stridiron" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor

> Where o where is a replacement for the all too wimpy offerings from Apple. I
> want a program that will take over SimpleText's file type and creator
> signature and let me open whatever file I want.

May I suggest SaintEdit? It's small, fast (AND has a Search & Replace function,
wonder of wonders).  Filesize is only limited to available memory.

It can be found on any Info-Mac fileserver, in the App directory.

Give it a try!


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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 15:50:42 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Dr. Barrett Stridiron" at Jul 6, 94 10:26:22 am

--Dr. Barrett Stridiron wrote:
>
>May I suggest SaintEdit? It's small, fast (AND has a Search & Replace
>function, wonder of wonders).  Filesize is only limited to available
>memory.
>
>It can be found on any Info-Mac fileserver, in the App directory.

    Actually, it's found in the info-mac/text directory. Btw, just what
does this subject have to do with Scripting on the Mac?

-Hades
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 13:04:51 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jamie Lawrence <[e-mail]>
Subject:      wierd variable substitution problem

Does anybody know what is going on here?
line 2 works just fine, but line 3 errors with "Could not
make "To" into an integer."


1) tell application "Eudora"

2)   set mfolder to ""

3)   set theMessage to "Message " & messageNum & " of Mailbox Out"
       & " of Mail Folder " & mfolder

4)   set ETo to Field "To" of Message messageNum of Mailbox
       "Out" of Mail Folder mfolder

5)   set EFrom to Field "From" of theMessage

6) end tell

I suppose I don't have to do it this way (with the variable
theMessage) but I am very curious as to why it doesn't work.

Any ideas?

thanks-


-j
--
"Blah Blah Blah"
___________________________________________________________________
Jamie Lawrence                                  <[e-mail]>
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:44:29 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Data <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

> >May I suggest SaintEdit? It's small, fast (AND has a Search & Replace
>     Actually, it's found in the info-mac/text directory. Btw, just what
> does this subject have to do with Scripting on the Mac?

i guess you use a text editor to write scripts? :)

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Date:         Mon, 4 Jul 1994 12:39:06 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Applescript development kit

I'm going to be buying a PowerPC 7100/66 AV in August when the prices drop
and through my school at an educational discount.  Will it come with
Applescript?  The scriptable Finder?

I bought Danny Goodman's book and have been using AS 1.0.1 on my Performa.
 If the scriptable Finder and latest version of AS *don't* come with my PPC,
then I'll buy them now.  If they do, I'll save a few hundred bucks ($199 for
AS Development kit) ($??? for SF) and wait.

Thanks to anyone who can help me out.  :)

~josh~
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:04:20 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Applescripting Serial Port

Greetings,
        Is there an osax for simple serial port communications through
Applescript?  I suppose SITComm might do what I need, but it's overkill for
my purposes.  If not, what's available for Hypercard 2.1?  I remember this
being asked before, but I didn't find an answer in my search of the list
archives.  Thanks in advance.

-- Dave


David L. Brown <[e-mail]>
Laboratory for Laser Energetics
250 East River Road
Rochester, NY 14623 USA                                           UR  \|/
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=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 09:36:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor

David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]> writes:

>I am sooooo tired of the wimpy 32K file size limit that TeachText and now
>(why?!?) SimpleText have.
...
>Where o where is a replacement for the all too wimpy offerings from Apple. I
>want a program that will take over SimpleText's file type and creator
>signature and let me open whatever file I want.

In my mind, there is only one non-wimpy text editor on the Mac. It's an Apple
product: MPW Shell. It's a combination shell/editor, you can drive it via
scripts, define custom menus, redefine key bindings, and write new tools that
run under it. You can also feed it commands via "Do Script" AppleEvents. You
can fix the creator codes on all your text files with one "SetFile" command,
then they will open in MPW when you double-click them.

Does that sound like what you're after?

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 14:51:17 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor

>> Where o where is a replacement for the all too wimpy offerings from Apple. I
>> want a program that will take over SimpleText's file type and creator
>> signature and let me open whatever file I want.
>
>have you tried BBEdit? it was such a cool editor, until it went
>commercial,
>
        And now it it even cooler!!  Especially the forthcoming version
which is scriptable!

Leonard

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Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:59:44 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      How to pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations)

This is my first posting so please ecxuse any mistakes, excessive length,
points covered in faqs etc. Does anyone know of a way to pause a script
either for a set period of time or until something has happened. I need to
do this as I am trying to script my mail programs, Eudora to logon, get my
mail then close the connection and quit and Leemail to receive my mail. My
service provider, Demon,  sends SMTP mail as soon as I login so all I have
to do is have my PPP connection opened by Leemail which it does
automatically or have it running when the connection is opened.

I am using the MacPPP Control scripting addition to control any opening or
closing of my PPP connection where necessary, and the Menu Events Scripting
Addition to select send queued mail from within Eudora.

The main problem is making the scripts wait until Eudora has finished
sending mail before quitting and until Leemail has finished receiving
before quitting.

I have tried using timeouts and dialog boxes but they require me to be
present defeating the purpose of the programs. I have also tried using the
time the program has been running returned by the Application Info
scripting addition in a repeat until. A sort of repeat until time = 180
with the get the info line just before and also within the loop to give the
programs three minutes but this didn't work. I know that Eudora is
AppleScriptable but its commands are mainly related to filing messages and
replying to existing messages. At present I am using Eudora v1.4, maybe the
later versions are more scriptable I will have to have a look.

I ideally want to be able to set the scripts to run at a certain time of
the day, any suggestions as to how, preferably allowing the mac to be used
in the meantime.

If anyone has already scripted these mail operations using any non
commercial applications particularly the two I am using then scripts or
details of these other programs would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a lot, Neil.

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 4 Jul 1994 19:15:31 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: working with nonscriptable applic.

>    Examining another application's windows could be done from an INIT,
>which can execute while another application is active. It gets kind of
>hairy, though, and one can't collect much meaningful information. It
>would be possible to determine the title of the window, but not much
>else.

All I need to know is if an app has any windows open, nothing about the
window's characteristics, just if it exists.

~josh~
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:16:46 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescript development kit

>I'm going to be buying a PowerPC 7100/66 AV in August when the prices drop
>and through my school at an educational discount.  Will it come with
>Applescript?  The scriptable Finder?

For the CD and hard disk which came with my early Power Mac, the answers
are that a bare AppleScript (1.1) comes with the Power Mac, but the
Scriptable Finder doesn't.


>I bought Danny Goodman's book and have been using AS 1.0.1 on my Performa.
> If the scriptable Finder and latest version of AS *don't* come with my PPC,
>then I'll buy them now.  If they do, I'll save a few hundred bucks ($199 for
>AS Development kit) ($??? for SF) and wait.

If you're willing to wait anyhow, then perhaps you can wait until System 7.5.

But...if you put any reasonable value on your time (what you could sell it
for, what having more of it is worth to you in terms of doing free time
things, etc), the time wasted fooling with FinderLib, Finder Liaison,
Scripting Additions, etc etc is worth more than the cost of the Scriptable
Finder today.  [But...the outlay is real cash, while the gain is unreal:
even better, since there's no income tax on the gain as there would be if
you sold that much time to someone.]

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 09:18:09 +1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeremy Peter Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescript development kit
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from
              "[e-mail]" at Jul 4, 94 12:39:06 pm

>
> I'm going to be buying a PowerPC 7100/66 AV in August when the prices drop
> and through my school at an educational discount.  Will it come with
> Applescript?  The scriptable Finder?
>
> I bought Danny Goodman's book and have been using AS 1.0.1 on my Performa.
>  If the scriptable Finder and latest version of AS *don't* come with my PPC,
> then I'll buy them now.  If they do, I'll save a few hundred bucks ($199 for
> AS Development kit) ($??? for SF) and wait.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help me out.  :)
>
It will come with AS1.1 (mine did). The scriptable Finder hadn't been
released when I bought mine, so I don't know if it is included now.

You could wait for Sys7.5, though.

Hope this helps,


/==============================\
| Jeremy P. Howard              |    [e-mail]> from
              "christopher edward etesse" at Jul 6, 94 07:21:17 pm

>
> I need some help -- I've got a database that I'm extracting data from (Very
> large) and need to fill in missing information (Blank spaces).  I wrote this
> Macro in Excel 4.0 to that but it replaced the entire area selected with the
> word "Blank".  What I want it to do is check cell by cell for a blank space
 and
> then replace those with the word "Blank".
> The main reason I'm doing this is because when I extract a record (say a state
> with numerous fields of data) the last half of the extraction is not correct
> with the initial data.  The only criteria I set is the name of the State and
 so
> it brings only one record up.  The  first half of this record corresponds
> exactly with the data in the database, but the second half is wrong.....I'm
> hoping that filling in the blank spaces with the word "Blank" will solve this
> problem.
>
> replace (r)
> =FOR.CELL("Cell_ref")
> =FORMULA("=REPLACE("""",1,5,""Blank"")",Cell_ref)
> =NEXT()
> =RETURN()
>
I'm not sure that I understand why your blank cells are causing a problem.
However, to replace blank cells with the word blank, loop through the cells
in the range to check, with a command like the following,

=if(cell("type")="b")
=formula("Blank")
=end.if()

Or in Applescript flavor, where the required range is called "reqRange"

repeat with thisRow in reqRange
        repeat with theCell in thisRow
                if type of thisCell = "b"       --can't remember if this is
the right property name
                        set value of thisCell to "Blank"
                end if
        end repeat
end repeat

I don't have docs for AS or XL in front of me, so these examples are
probably full of syntax problems, but the idea should still work.

Note that you can loop through a range with two repeat statements, since XL
considers a table a list of lists. Note also that the cell function returns
information about the currently selected cell if you do not include a
second parameter.

Hope this helps,


/==============================\
| Jeremy P. Howard              |       "Logic must take care of itself."
| [e-mail]  |        Ludwig Wittgenstein
\==============================/                 Tractatus Logico-Philisophicus
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 20:39:54 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Chris Etesse <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Excel Macros --> Turning blanks into "Blank"
In-Reply-To:  Message of Thu,
              7 Jul 1994 10:26:00 +1000 from <[e-mail]>

Thanks, I'll try it -- basically I've heard that when extracting a database
all fields must contain entries for individual records.  Any fields left blank
in a record might possibly cause the extraction to fail which is what the secon
d half of my fields are doing.  THe only other thing I can think of is that
216 columns by 52 rows is simply too much infomation for Excel to extract and
that is causing my problem...

All for now,  Chris
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 17:42:33 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christopher Allen <[e-mail]>
Organization: Consensus Development Corporation, San Francisco, CA USA
Subject:      UPDATE: Everyday AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners

This is the current list of winners for the Everyday AppleScript(tm)
Contest. In addition to the list of winners and prizes, it includes a brief
description of each entry, and a URL to find it.

I am missing a few URLs, so if you know of another place where one of the
winning files is archived, please let me know before I post it to MacWeek
and to NetNews.

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..Christopher Allen                  Consensus Development Corporation..
..<[e-mail]>                   4104-24th Street #419..
..                                        San Francisco, CA 94114-3615..
..                                        o415/647-6383  f415/647-6384..
..Mosaic/World-Wide-Web Front Door:                                   ..
..ftp://netcom7.netcom.com/pub/consensus/www/ConsensusFrontDoor.html  ..


Everyday AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners
========================================
The winners of the Everyday AppleScript(tm) Contest are:

Best AppleScript(tm) Script
---------------------------
DEADLINE PUSHED BACK: We received a number of interesting scripts in this
category, but after having showed them to people at the MacHack
conference we decided to reopen this category and allow another month
for entries. We did receive a couple of compelling scripts, but those
that were most interesting tended to be too vertical in orientation
(i.e. useful scripts automating Eudora and Think C.)

Thus we are moving the deadline to Friday, July 29th to allow for people
to polish their entries and to allow for new AppleScript entries. The
winners will be announced at MacWorld Boston!

Remember, your script does not have to be large or super-fancy. For
instance, at MacHack we heard of scripts that automatically organize and
move files in the Finder for you based on different criteria. We also
saw a game written completely in AppleScript and FrontMost. If we had
had such scripts submitted, we might already have a winner in this
category.

Though we will still consider interesting vertical scripts (such as the
Eudora oriented ones already received) the more broadly useful or
interesting the script is, the better an impression it may make on the
judges.

Some additional companies have donated a number of prizes to award to
the winners in this category, including:

Best AppleScript:   $750
                    Metrowerks' CodeWarrior Gold CD-ROM
                    Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
                    10 Hours Free Time on America Online
                    MacHack '94 CD-ROM

Runnerup:           CE Software's QuicKeys 3.0
                    Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
                    10 Hours Free Time on America Online
                    MacHack '94 CD-ROM

Honorable Mentions: 10 Hours Free Time on America Online
                    MacHack '94 CD-ROM

More prizes may be announced at a later date.


Best Scriptable Application
---------------------------
WINNER:
Aaron Giles <[e-mail]> or <[e-mail]>
JPEGView 3.3/JPEG Preview & Icon - JPEGView is a fast, powerful,
scriptable utility for viewing JPEG, GIF, PICT, TIFF, BMP,
StartupScreen, and MacPaint images. JPEGView is fully scriptable and
recordable, making it easy to write simple scripts to control image
viewing and the built-in slide show. JPEGView comes as a fat binary,
running at native speeds on the PowerPC. JPEG Preview & Icon is a simple
yet powerful script which creates QuickTime preview images and custom
Finder icons for any number of image files dropped on the icon.
FREEWARE - The author requests that you send a postcard if you like
JPEGView. For US$20 the author will send you a printed manual and disk.
http://www.med.cornell.edu/jpegview.html
ftp://ftp.med.cornell.edu/pub/jpegview/
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/scriptableapps/jpegview3.3.sit.hqx

Prizes:     $500
            Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

RUNNERUP:
Peter N. Lewis <[e-mail]>
Anarchie 1.2.0 - Anarchie is an FTP and Archie client that allows you to
browse FTP sites, download files, or find them using an archie server.
Anarchie is scriptable and recordable and supports the Drag Manager,
allowing you to drag files to or from the Finder. Anarchie comes with
bookmarks to all the major Macintosh FTP sites, decodes files using
StuffIt Expander, and supports UserLand's MenuSharing.
SHAREWARE - $10 for individual user, world-wide source code license:
US$5000 world-wide license: US$2000, university or company site license:
US$500 Curtin University and the University of Western Australia are
exempt. Commercial distribution prohibited without permission of
author.
ftp://nic.switch.ch/software/mac/peterlewis/anarchie-120.sit.hqx
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/scriptableapps/anarchie1.10.sit.hqx

Prizes:     Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

HONORABLE MENTIONS:
Hugh Sontag <[e-mail]>
Synchronize! 3.1.1 - Synchronize! is a file synchronization and backup
utility, designed for  people who work on more than one Mac. It
automatically keeps the documents on two or more Macs up to date by
copying the newest version of those documents to the other Mac.
Synchronize! will also backup a folder or an entire disk to another,
removing any files which don't exist on the primary disk. Synchronize!
can automatically connect to a remote network, mount AppleShare
volume, synchronize files, and disconnect at a preset time or
periodically. Passwords can be entered in advance so the
synchronization can be done any time.
LIMITED VERSION - Unlimited use of the advanced features requires the
purchase of the program, which is $29.95, plus shipping.
ftp://sumex-aim.stanford.edu//mac/disk/synchronize-311.sea

John A. Schlack <[e-mail]>
Color Fractal Generator (CFG) 2.21 - CFG is a fractal program designed
to be customized and automated. It supports both AppleScript and
Frontier, comes with a vocabulary of dozens of verbs, provides a 100+
page scripting manual, and has the commands in DocServer format for
Frontier users. Additional features include a detailed manual, online
help, background processing, palettes, and 16 to 16 million colors.
Several scripting examples have also been provided. CFG has been
accelerated for the Power Macintosh.
SHAREWARE - $15 for standard version, $25 for standard version with printed
manual, $40 for source code.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/scriptableapps/CFG2.1UR.sit.hqx

Takashi Suzuki <[e-mail]>
MIDI Pack'en/DX7/Juno/K1 Librarian - These AppleScript recordable applications
allow you to make up a library of voice data for a variety of synthesizers,
as well as allowing you to keep system exclusive data in files (so called MIDI
Data Filer) for any MIDI synthesizer.
SHAREWARE - Each are $10.
ftp://?

Prizes:     10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM


Best Scripting Utility
----------------------
WINNER:
Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
OSA Menu 1.0.1 - The OSA Menu is an iconic system menu (like the Help
menu) that appears on the right side of the menu bar. Its menu items
are scripts: choose an item from the menu and the script will run.
Some commands are always available, and some are only available within
particular applications.
FREEWARE - Commercial distribution prohibited without permission of
author.
ftp://ftp.netcom.com//pub/leonardr/Hacks/OSA_Menu_1.0.1.sit
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/addons/OSA_Menu_1.0.1.sit.hqx

Prizes:     $250
            Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

RUNNERUP:
Allessandro Levi Montalcini <[e-mail]>
KeyQuencer 1.1 - KeyQuencer 1.1 is a powerful and solid Macro Engine
that uses a simple scripting approach and can be expanded through
external extensions. It is designed to use very little memory and can
perform complex tasks that are described by simple scripts. All of its
commands are kept in external extension files (more than 30 are
bundled.)
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/addons/KeyQuencer_1.1.sit.hqx

Prizes:     Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

HONORABLE MENTIONS:
Mark Aiken <[e-mail]>
File Tracker 1.0 - File Tracker 1.0 is a utility package that can
"watch" files or folders on your hard drive or on drives over a
network, and that can perform complex actions on items involved in any
changes. A library of "pre-fab" actions is supplied, but extensive
tie-ins with AppleScript permit powerful customization. A wide variety
of events can be detected.
SHAREWARE - US$15, Canadian$20. Commercial distribution prohibited
without permission of author.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/addons/File_Tracker_100.sit.hqx


Ross Browne <[e-mail]>
The Menu Events extension adds a system event handler which allows any
application or script to query  the menus of another application
(perhaps on  another Mac), then to execute its menu commands. All that
is required of the target application is that it support the Required
suite in the usual System 7 fashion, so non-scriptable applications
become scriptable. A MenuSelect patch lets the user record menu
commands into any standard script recorder. the Menu Grabber
application sends Menu events to construct a copy of any application's
menus, enabling a degree of remote control. Both programs are fully
documented.
FREEWARE - Commercial distribution prohibited without
permission of author.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/addons/Menu_Events_1.1.2.sit.Hqx
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/addons/Menu_Grabber_1.1.2.sit.Hqx

Prizes:     10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM


Best Scripting Addition (OSAX)
------------------------------
WINNER:
Greg Quinn <[e-mail]>
GTQ Scripting Library 1.2 - The GTQ Scripting Library 1.2 contains 65
scripting additions (osaxen) including ones supporting PowerTalk.
FREEWARE - Commercial distribution prohibited without permission of
author.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/osaxen/gtqscriptlib1.2.sit.hqx

Prizes:     $250
            Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

RUNNERUP: (tie)
Mark Alldritt <[e-mail]>
Script Tools 1.3 -  Script Tools was the first publicly available
collection of useful AppleScript Additions.  Script Tools allows your
scripts to prompt for files and folders, Perform I/O on text files, do
text pattern matching with Regular Expressions, control running
processes, and use the Speech Manager.
FREEWARE - Commercial distribution prohibited without permission of
author.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/osaxen/ScriptTools1.3.sit.hqx

Jon Pugh <[e-mail] >
Jon's Commands 1.1.3 - An essential collection of scripting additions
which perform many needed and useful functions for the professional
AppleScripter. The collection includes such commands as finder selection,
keys pressed, a suite of file commands (copy, move, delete & rename),
access to the clipboard, a monitor list, the machine environment, and
innovative and simple way to walk a disk for files and folders.
FREEWARE - Commercial distribution prohibited without permission of
author.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/osaxen/JonsCommands113.hqx

Prizes:     Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

HONORABLE MENTIONS:
Giulio Zambon <[e-mail]>
Wild 1.0.1 - Wild is a free AppleScript addition which lets you select
files and folders with wildcarded names. It also supports other
filtering criteria to identify specific files (eg. file creator and
type). Wild accepts a list of folder and file names (one or more of them
can be wildcarded) and returns a list of actual names which match the
initial list and satisfy the additional filtering criteria that you
selected. The Wild package includes full C sources and a Think C 5.0
project file.
FREEWARE - See GNU General Public License.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/osaxen/wild1.00.cpt.hqx

Prizes:     10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM


Best Scripting Hack
-------------------
WINNER:
Atul Butte <[e-mail]>
TCP/IP Scripting Addition - This Scripting Addition allows the developer
to use MacTCP from within a script by writing Internet client-server
software. Potential uses of this addition include sending e-mail through
a script, checking if users are logged on (via finger), automating FTP,
automating Gopher and NetNews, writing scripts to check whether machines
are up, UNIX lpr, and quickly writing many other TCP/IP client-server
programs. SHAREWARE - the licensing fee is $20 per copy, or $200 for a
company-wide or university-wide site license (including students), or
$500 per year for unlimited distribution. Commercial distribution
prohibited without permission of author.
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/osaxen/tcpip.osax.hqx

Prizes:     $250
            Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

RUNNERUP:
Mark Aiken <[e-mail]>
Script Hider 1.0 - Script Hider is a small extension that can hide
scripts, making them safe from tampering by uniformed parties. Script
Hider is especially useful for concealing 'Stay-open" monitoring
scripts in lab environments.
FREEWARE
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/addons/Script_Hider_100.hqx

Prizes:     Full Moon Software's ScriptWizard 1.0
            10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

HONORABLE MENTIONS:
John Schettino <[e-mail]>
Netnews Browser - This AppleScript and FaceSpan Application gives the
user a way to filter the endless stream of information available via the
Internet NetNews. Users can specify words or phrases that they are
interested in, within a newsgroup. The NewsGrazer will watch the
newsgroup and will pull out interesting articles.
FREEWARE

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[e-mail]>
ScriptKey/ScriptKey Scripts - ScriptKey is an FKEY for executing
AppleScript scripts.
FREEWARE

Prizes:     10 Hours Free Time on America Online
            MacHack '94 CD-ROM

THANKS!
-------
* MacHack '94 Committee -- for allowing me to do this in conjunction with
  MacHack, and for donating the MacHack '94 CD-ROM.
* Full Moon Software for donating ScriptWizard, Metrowerks for donating
  CodeWarrior, CE Software for donating QuicKeys, and America Online
  Mac Developers Forum for free time.
* Don Olson, Leonard Rosenthal, and Kelvy Bird who helped review the
  entries.
* Everyone who entered -- the entries were fun to go through!
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 18:42:41 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Cohen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescript development kit

At  9:18 AM 7/7/94 +1000, Jeremy Peter Howard wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to be buying a PowerPC 7100/66 AV in August when the prices drop
>> and through my school at an educational discount.  Will it come with
>> Applescript?  The scriptable Finder?
>>
>> I bought Danny Goodman's book and have been using AS 1.0.1 on my Performa.
>>  If the scriptable Finder and latest version of AS *don't* come with my PPC,
>> then I'll buy them now.  If they do, I'll save a few hundred bucks ($199 for
>> AS Development kit) ($??? for SF) and wait.
>>
>> Thanks to anyone who can help me out.  :)
>>
>It will come with AS1.1 (mine did). The scriptable Finder hadn't been
>released when I bought mine, so I don't know if it is included now.
>
>You could wait for Sys7.5, though.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
The scriptable finder is included with PowerMacs. It's really the same
finder with an aete resource added.
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:07:58 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mark Duffield <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton, NZ wrote:

> David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]> writes:
>
> >I am sooooo tired of the wimpy 32K file size limit that TeachText and now
> >(why?!?) SimpleText have.
> ...
> >Where o where is a replacement for the all too wimpy offerings from Apple. I
> >want a program that will take over SimpleText's file type and creator
> >signature and let me open whatever file I want.
>
> In my mind, there is only one non-wimpy text editor on the Mac. It's an Apple
> product: MPW Shell. It's a combination shell/editor, you can drive it via
> scripts, define custom menus, redefine key bindings, and write new tools that
> run under it. You can also feed it commands via "Do Script" AppleEvents. You
> can fix the creator codes on all your text files with one "SetFile" command,
> then they will open in MPW when you double-click them.
>
> Does that sound like what you're after?
>
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
> Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
> University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
> Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
>

Problem is that you have to put out ALOT of bucks MPW.  BBedit and Alpha
(my personal favorite) are inexpensive or shareware.  Is the MPW shell REALLY
that good?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Mark J. Duffield                    | [e-mail]
 Sr. Systems Analyst                 |
 Preclinical Scientific Computing    | MIME Spoken here.
 Parke Davis Pharmaceutical Research |
 Ann Arbor, MI  48105                |
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:18:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor

Mark Duffield <[e-mail]> writes:

>Problem is that you have to put out ALOT of bucks MPW.  BBedit and Alpha
>(my personal favorite) are inexpensive or shareware.

According to the latest APDA, US$250 buys you a CD-ROM with the Shell, the
standard tools (no compilers), the Assembler, SourceBug, ToolServer,
SourceServer, and a few other odds and ends.

>  Is the MPW shell REALLY that good?

It does everything I said it does. Whether you need that kind of power is
entirely up to you. Me, I use it every day.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:29:20 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Debugging an applet properly

Mark Alldritt <[e-mail]> writes in response to my request for a
way to find out the path to the script file *even when it's running inside
Script Editor*:

>Script Tools allows you to figure out the file spec of the running script
>(compiled script applications only).

Thanks, Mark, but I can already do that using the expression "path to me".
My whole point was that the expression breaks (points to Script Editor) when
the compiled script application is executed from Script Editor during
debugging.

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 20:10:31 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Malcolm Pradhan <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Need real text editor

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[e-mail]> writes:
> According to the latest APDA, US$250 buys you a CD-ROM with the Shell,
> the standard tools (no compilers), the Assembler, SourceBug,
> ToolServer, SourceServer, and a few other odds and ends.

 If you are in a university the cheapest way to get MPW is to buy
CodeWarrior for US$99 (the Gold version). You get MPW 3.3.1 with about 50
tools, ToolServer, AppleScript 1.1, SourceServer, Drag and Drop kit,
MacsBugs, and a few other odds and ends :-)

 Regards,
 Malcolm
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:16:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescript development kit

Mike Cohen <[e-mail]> writes:

>The scriptable finder is included with PowerMacs. It's really the same
>finder with an aete resource added.

Yes and no. That aete resource does nothing more than describe the minimal
AppleEvents understood by every Finder since 7.0. To make Finder 7.1.3/7.1.4
fully scriptable, you need the Finder Scripting Extension. This was included
with the AppleScript Developer's Kit; I understand it is now also included
with the AppleScript Scripter's Kit.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:54:07 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         INRA000 <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re[2]: working with nonscriptable applic.
In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of MON 04 JUL 1994 19:15:31 EDT

>>    Examining another application's windows could be done from an INIT,
>>which can execute while another application is active. It gets kind of
>>hairy, though, and one can't collect much meaningful information. It
>>would be possible to determine the title of the window, but not much
>>else.
>
>All I need to know is if an app has any windows open, nothing about the
>window's characteristics, just if it exists.

    This is fairly easy. I'm not sure whether it's worth the effort to
write this, though, since I can't think of a whole lot of reasons why
one might want this information...

    I'll play with this when I get the chance... I'm working on v1.5 of
File Tracker right now, and it's taking a lot of my time... ;-)

    Mark Aiken
    [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:05:11 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescript development kit

>>
>The scriptable finder is included with PowerMacs. It's really the same
>finder with an aete resource added.

No...that's not the Scriptable Finder...that's the same finder events as
7.0 had, back in May 1991, with the addition of an 'aete' describing them.

The Scriptable Finder is a 7.1 or later finder plus the Finder Scripting
Extension.  I don't think that's on the PowerMac CD (the issue I got in
March...at least a Finder Find looking for "Finder Sc" didn't find one on
the CD, but did find one in my Extensions folder.

The real Scriptable Finder is far better.  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================stems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescript development kit
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" at Jul 7, 94 03:16:00 pm

--Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>Mike Cohen <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>The scriptable finder is included with PowerMacs. It's really the same
>>finder with an aete resource added.
>
>Yes and no. That aete resource does nothing more than describe the minimal
>AppleEvents understood by every Finder since 7.0. To make Finder 7.1.3/7.1.4
>fully scriptable, you need the Finder Scripting Extension. This was included
>with the AppleScript Developer's Kit; I understand it is now also included
>with the AppleScript Scripter's Kit.

    Yup. You can now also buy the Finder Scripting Kit from APDA. It
will cost you about $25, and comes with a printed manual.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 09:28:49 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting FileMaker Pro
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Todd Hooper" at Jul 5, 94 09:20:12 am

--Todd Hooper wrote:
>
>Is anyone on the list scripting FileMaker Pro? I've found it pretty
>difficult, even with a set of sample scripts from FM Pro 2.0.

    I've done a bit with FM Pro. I'll see if I can answer your questions
for you...

>Is there a better source of documentation on scripting FileMaker
>than the standard FileMaker manuals?

    There are no real sources of documentation for scripting FM Pro
using AppleScript. It's lots of trial and error, but since FM Pro
conforms to the Object Database and the Open Scripting Architecture it's
a bit easier to deal with than some other applications.

>Two problems I am having:
>
>1) Get data returns records which are the nearest match e.g.
>
>  set rec to Get Data (first Record whose first Cell = partnum)
>  of Window dbname

    One of the first things I'm going to tell you about AppleScript is
there are many commands that can be implied rather than expressed. You
can actually leave out the "Get Data" part of your command above, and if
there is only one database open you don't need to specify a Window for
the script to act on. If there is more than one database open, you are
probably better off specifying the "Database dbname" since the Window
class really doesn't know anything about the database. Only the
properties of the window being displayed.

>with a partnum of "1" will return records "100", "110" etc. Is there any
>way to do an exact match?

    You really just can't do exact mathces in FM Pro on text fields,
unless you know the exact text you are looking for. Partial text
searches will always return all hits. To get exact matches you need to
use number or date fields. So you need to make sure that the part number
cell in your database is a number field, and then you need to make sure
that you are using an integer value in the variable partnum rather than
the string "1". Also, you will be better off if you don't use Cell
indexes since they can be confusing. Saying "First Cell" can change by
the layout that you are using. It's better to say "Cell "Part Number"".

>2) Can you get a count of found records as opposed to total records? E.g.

    Absolutely. This is very easy to do...

>Show (every Record of Database "mydatabase" whose Cell "Name" = "Todd")
>set n to (Count of Database "mydatabase" Class Record)
>
>returns the total number of records rather than the found set.

    Again, you are being way too verbose in this statement, and in doing
so you have asked FM Pro to give you the total count in the database.
The statement you want to use is:

        set n to Count Records

    This returns the number of records in the current found set. If you
say "Count Records of Database "mydatabase"" you will get all of the
records in the file.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 09:39:07 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Frank Lowney <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescripting Serial Port

>Greetings,
>        Is there an osax for simple serial port communications through
>Applescript?  I suppose SITComm might do what I need, but it's overkill for
>my purposes.  If not, what's available for Hypercard 2.1?  I remember this
>being asked before, but I didn't find an answer in my search of the list
>archives.  Thanks in advance.
>
There are two possibilities that I know of, both produced at Apple by Harry
Chesley.  One is the "Serial Port XCMDs" and the other is the "CTB XCMDs".
The former is more robust but hasn't been supported in a long while,
consequently, there's no Y/Z Modem or other "advanced" stuph.  The latter
has more potential but never made it out of beta before development ceased
on it so may not be sufficiently robust.  Six of one, half-a-dozen of the
other.

SITComm would likely overcome these liabilities but would raise "speed of
execution" issues.  Having SITComm active would resolve some of these but
bring up the question of the additional memory required to do so.  I
suppose its like the folks in auto racing say (or used to say), "Horsepower
costs money, how fast do you want to go?".


*********************************************************************
Dr. Frank Lowney, Director, Regional Teacher Education Center
                  System Administrator, The GC EduNET Project
CBX 034, School of Education
Georgia College, Milledgeville, GA 31061-0490
Voice: [phone]
via GC EduNET, Georgia's Statewide K-12 Education Network, telnet to:
        gcedunet.peachnet.edu
*********************************************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 10:00:43 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         christopher edward etesse <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Excel: Selecting cell and adding text to it

I have a huge spread sheet I'm working on (56 rows by 216 Columns) -- I've
made a database out it to extract the information for printing, but I've
run into a problem.  The guy that put the spreadsheet together used the
exact same labels in several different parts (Hence my earlier post
about only extracting half the records correctly).  What I want to do
is write a macro that will copy the text in a cell and then paste it back
to that cell while adding a prefix (Such as (1) -- The database is further
divided into 18 groups so I could name each field with its group prefix and
avoid extraction problems). This is what I've tried, but I'am not able
to add the prefix when I paste back to the cell.  Also I want to do thismultiple
 cells so that should be taken into account.

Record9 (n)
=SELECT("R9C5")
=CUT()
=SELECT("R9C5")
=PASTE()

=RETURN()

Thanks in advance,

Chris Etesse
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:30:06 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jamie Lawrence <[e-mail]>
Subject:      stopping a moving train

I admit it- I'm one of the dummies that bought Tao of
Applescript. I can't afford a better reference right
now, and I also can't figure out a way to abort a script
in mid execution. And Tao ain't helpin'. I've tried "Exit"
which turns into "Exit Repeat", which tries to do just that
(only there is no repeat to exit out of), "Abort" (which
obviously isn't a command), and "Quit" gives the a mystery
error "Could not run the script because a script is running.

Anybody have any hints?

thanks-


-j
--
"Blah Blah Blah"
___________________________________________________________________
Jamie Lawrence                                  <[e-mail]>
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 06:49:58 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting FileMaker Pro

>Is anyone on the list scripting FileMaker Pro? I've found it pretty
>difficult, even with a set of sample scripts from FM Pro 2.0.
>
>Is there a better source of documentation on scripting FileMaker
>than the standard FileMaker manuals?

After you've tried a few scripts, try browsing around in the database which
comes with FileMaker.  On my system, it is at
   Vashon:FileMaker:FileMaker and Apple Events:FileMaker and Apple Events

[Your volume name, at least, will differ.]

Almost everything you need is in there.  Most (unfortunately not all) of
what's in there is true.

  Earlier versions of FileMaker had an older database with a slightly
different name, which was pretty good but not as useful as this one.

  If you have a CompuServe account, drop by GO USERLAND, and ask FileMaker
questions.  There are some heavy FileMaker users there, some of whom speak
AppleScript in addition to UserTalk (some don't, but the scripting is the
same, it only looks different).


>Two problems I am having:
   Brian handled those nicely

--John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:39:50 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete 'Happy' Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      MacPGP2.6

I'm trying to write a script or other tool to "automagically" use the
clipboard encrypting capability of MacPGP2.6 to sign my mail messages from
a menu pick.

A few problems:

Eudora has all sorts of AppleEvent friendliness.  After muddling over why
it wouldn't give me the text of my message with:

set the clipboard to field "" of message 0 of mailbox "Out" of folder ""

I found that a simple

set the clipboard to field "" of message 0

works (as long as the message I want to encrypt is on top).

There are a couple of tools that send menu events to non-scriptable apps,
but none that will make dialog box picks (for instance, to tell MacPGP that
I want to sign the clipboard).

Also, I'm not sure how to add a menu item to Eudora that calls a
script--can I do this?  I want to put a new item in the "Message" menu that
calls the script.  Other problems:  ideally the menu item would either only
be active, or only appear, while I am editing a message to be
sent--preferably only when there is a non-empty message text.

To summarize, desired behavior of my script will be:

  a)  cuts the message text to the clipboard
  b)  activates MacPGP2.6
  c)  selects File...Sign only (cmd-S)
  d)  selects the clipboard option
  e)  waits until I have entered my pass phrase
  f)  waits until PGP finishes signing (this may be very tricky?)
  g)  goes back to Eudora
  h)  pastes the signed message now residing on the clipboard into the
      body of the message
  i)  (optionally) and queues it off, since if I'm signing the msg, I'm
      probably done with it

If it helps, I am using the commercial version of Eudora, latest public
update (2.0.3).  I'm resedit-friendly, but still just barely learning
AppleScripting.  I've skimmed Eudora's AE dictionary, once, but I need to
get a new copy and look at it again.

Thanks!

--Pete

-----
  Peter L. Thomas, Graduate Research Assistant--GTRI
  Internet Mail Address:   [e-mail]
  Postal:  35139 Georgia Tech Station/Atlanta, GA  30332-5139
  Phone: (H) [phone], (O) [phone]
  Internet Talk/Finger Requests:  [e-mail]
| PGP Public Key: available from MIT PGP key server and others
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:15:36 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete 'Happy' Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Got it all

The following is the first successful test of my new KQ macro:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

But I had to drop completely out of AppleScripting, and do it all in KeyQuencer.

Here is the magic:

KeyQuencer script "Sign Eudora Message" with minimal error checking, no
menu item, keystroke set to "cmd-opt-S":
- -----
Application "Eudora" partial quiet
Key cmd "A"
Key cmd "X"
SwitchApp "MacPGP" partial
Key cmd "S"
Button "Clipboard"
WaitWindow dialog close
WaitApp "Eudora" partial
Key cmd "V"
- -----
Definitely not beautiful--I want AppleScripting because that can _ensure_
that I am copying and/or pasting from the right sources, do better error
checking, etc., etc--but I must admit that I'm impressed with the power of
KeyQuencer.

Other bugs fixable by scripting, since KQ doesn't have a launching ability
(AE, of course, does), I need this, otherwise I must ensure MacPGP is up
first.

- --Pete

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6

iQB1AgUBLhxUBBJUT+km4Nx9AQFIAwL/WOEDsv9zVgFkp0wb8hBNov+yWR5mg/ft
umcd7m7jw7jkINElu2Nm1wWQ/5aBA6vIiAyXG7LO8Rargb9Pv800YEKTDSlyWBIg
IJWRjcx6PNH1J93X1RKOFh8y4S/syVRV
=sM1e
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----
  Peter L. Thomas, Graduate Research Assistant--GTRI
  Internet Mail Address:   [e-mail]
  Postal:  35139 Georgia Tech Station/Atlanta, GA  30332-5139
  Phone: (H) [phone], (O) [phone]
  Internet Talk/Finger Requests:  [e-mail]
| PGP Public Key: available from MIT PGP key server and others
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 14:52:21 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete 'Happy' Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      follow-up to encrypting-scripting

More net.surfing has uncovered the KeyQuencer tool.  Three outstanding
issues remain:

1)  there is still no way to know whether MacPGP has done it's work and
pasted the clipboard.  Right now I simply have a WaitApp "Eudora" partial,
so the user must bring Eudora back when MacPGP finishes.

2)  The example script demonstrating how to use KQ macros in AppleScript
scripts is unreadable by my version of the Script Editor, hence I don't
know how to piece together my two working hunks of code--the AppleScript
that chops the current outgoing message to the clipboard [calls the macro]
and dumps the signed version back into the message buffer and the macro
that brings up MacPGP, signs the message, and waits for Eudora to return
which should go between the brackets above.

3)  How to put the finished product when (at least) (2) above is fixed into
a menu pick.

Script-and-Macro-fully yours,

--Pete "whose Mac II is starting to groan under the weight of new extensions"

-----
  Peter L. Thomas, Graduate Research Assistant--GTRI
  Internet Mail Address:   [e-mail]
  Postal:  35139 Georgia Tech Station/Atlanta, GA  30332-5139
  Phone: (H) [phone], (O) [phone]
  Internet Talk/Finger Requests:  [e-mail]
| PGP Public Key: available from MIT PGP key server and others
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:40:31 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: stopping a moving train
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Jamie Lawrence" at Jul 7, 94 11:30:06 am

--Jamie Lawrence wrote:
>
>I admit it- I'm one of the dummies that bought Tao of Applescript. I
>can't afford a better reference right now, and I also can't figure out a
>way to abort a script in mid execution. And Tao ain't helpin'. I've
>tried "Exit" which turns into "Exit Repeat", which tries to do just that
>(only there is no repeat to exit out of), "Abort" (which obviously isn't
>a command), and "Quit" gives the a mystery error "Could not run the
>script because a script is running.

    Can you give us an idea of the script you are trying to abort? At
worst you could wrap the whole script in a "repeat 1 time" statement and
then you would be able to place "exit repeat" statements anwhere within
the repeat loop to give you what you want.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:07:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      anoth fmpro scripting question...

This should be a simple question for more experienced scriptors out there...
I am able to get the data of certain fields in a fmpro database, but no
matter what I try, I cannot figure out how to just get the data of a
particular field of a particular record...

I'm a newbie to fmPro, and to scripting db's... can anyone help?

Anthony

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 23:25:59 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: stopping a moving train

> From: Macintosh Scripting Systems on Thu, 7 Jul, 1994 22:06
> Subject: stopping a moving train
> To: Multiple recipients of list MACSCRPT
>
> I admit it- I'm one of the dummies that bought Tao of
> Applescript. I can't afford a better reference right
> now, and I also can't figure out a way to abort a script
> in mid execution. And Tao ain't helpin'. I've tried "Exit"
> which turns into "Exit Repeat", which tries to do just that
> (only there is no repeat to exit out of), "Abort" (which
> obviously isn't a command), and "Quit" gives the a mystery
> error "Could not run the script because a script is running.
>
> Anybody have any hints?

"return" works for me.

-wayne
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 17:27:43 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: anoth fmpro scripting question...
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "anthony brown" at Jul 7, 94 04:07:55 pm

--anthony brown wrote:
>
>This should be a simple question for more experienced scriptors out there...
>I am able to get the data of certain fields in a fmpro database, but no
>matter what I try, I cannot figure out how to just get the data of a
>particular field of a particular record...

    In FM Pro a Field returns a list of the data found for all of the
record in the found set. If you want the data from a particular record
you have to acces the Cells of the record. Thus you would say:

        Cell "Name" of Record 1

    When you are using this syntax you must supply a record number to
get the Cell from. This number is the position of the record in the
current found set based on sort order (if the records are unsorted then
the order is oldest to youngest). It is possible to work with the
Current Record that is visible in an FM Pro database. This is the
syntax:

        Set cRec to Current Record of Database "My Database"
        Cell "Name" of cRec

    You need to make a reference to the current record, and then you
can treat that reference just like any other record in a FM Pro
database.

-Hades
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:05:07 +1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeremy Peter Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Excel: Selecting cell and adding text to it
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from
              "christopher edward etesse" at Jul 7, 94 10:00:43 am

>
> I have a huge spread sheet I'm working on (56 rows by 216 Columns) -- I've
> made a database out it to extract the information for printing, but I've
> run into a problem.  The guy that put the spreadsheet together used the
> exact same labels in several different parts (Hence my earlier post
> about only extracting half the records correctly).  What I want to do
> is write a macro that will copy the text in a cell and then paste it back
> to that cell while adding a prefix (Such as (1) -- The database is further
> divided into 18 groups so I could name each field with its group prefix and
> avoid extraction problems). This is what I've tried, but I'am not able
> to add the prefix when I paste back to the cell.  Also I want to do
 thismultiple
>  cells so that should be taken into account.
>
> Record9 (n)
> =SELECT("R9C5")
> =CUT()
> =SELECT("R9C5")
> =PASTE()
>
> =RETURN()

It's great to see people trying to use Excel's macro capability. It's
really quite powerful once you get the hang of it, but it takes a while to
become familiar with the syntax, and the vast number of commands. I
recommend the 'Excel Macro Reference' from Microsoft Press (can't remember
the exact title), which covers _everything_ in this area.

There are various levels of complexity to answering your question. The
easiest method would be to use a for loop, and add a incremental suffix to
every cell. e.g

=for(x,1,columns(reqRange))     --can't remeber the argument order!
newContents=cell("contents") & x        --might need string(x,0)
=formula(newContents)
=select("RC[1]")
=next()

columns functions counts the columns in 'reqRange' (name the range you
require). for function takes three arguments; counter variable, start
value, end value. cell function I mentioned yesterday.

Adding a suffiex only where necessary would be trickier. You could create
an array with the values so far found in cells, and check each new cell
against the values in this array.

Hope this helps,


/==============================\
| Jeremy P. Howard              |       "Logic must take care of itself."
| [e-mail]  |        Ludwig Wittgenstein
\==============================/                 Tractatus Logico-Philisophicus
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:10:31 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: stopping a moving train

>I admit it- I'm one of the dummies that bought Tao of
>Applescript. I can't afford a better reference right
>now, and I also can't figure out a way to abort a script
>in mid execution. And Tao ain't helpin'. I've tried "Exit"
>which turns into "Exit Repeat", which tries to do just that
>(only there is no repeat to exit out of), "Abort" (which
>obviously isn't a command), and "Quit" gives the a mystery
>error "Could not run the script because a script is running.

It's not clear what you want, but...

If you want to leave one handler and return to its caller, use

    return
or
    return somethingWhichMakesSenseToYourCaller

The statements "loose" in your script are in a run handler, (you can also
put them there explicitly), so this works from what looks like the top
level, too.
----------

If you want to abort a whole script, regardless of how deep you are in the
calls to handlers, protect all of your run handler with

try
    -- all the run handler stuff
on error
end error

And, at the point where you want to abort, execute
    error -128

or

    error someCodeYouPick

-128 is the user cancelled error.

The error handling above has a major flaw:  it makes any error silent (or
most errors).  Probably, you want to improve that:

try
    -- all the run handler stuff
on error errorString number errorCode
    if errorCode is -128 (* or the special code you picked *) then return
    display dialog "Error: " & errorString & " (" & (errorCode as string) & ")"
end error

--------------------
If you mean that you want the user to be able to abort the script from
outside (for example, you see that it is having trouble), that is done with
command-.
Command-. produces an error -128 (which you can trap, see above).

   --John

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 16:10:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: anoth fmpro scripting question...

>This should be a simple question for more experienced scriptors out there...
>I am able to get the data of certain fields in a fmpro database, but no
>matter what I try, I cannot figure out how to just get the data of a
>particular field of a particular record...
>
>I'm a newbie to fmPro, and to scripting db's... can anyone help?

There is a pretty good database shipped with FileMaker Pro.  In its most
recent form, it is probably found in this folder, with this name, inside
your FileMaker folder.  There are lots of examples in there.  [Yes...the
same name (folder and document) twice.]

    FileMaker and Apple Events:FileMaker and Apple Events

  --John

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[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:13:35 +1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeremy Peter Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable Finder docs
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Brian V.
              Hughes" at Jul 7, 94 09:12:46 am

>
> --Kevin Purcell wrote:
> >
> >The docs come on the AppleScript 1.1 CD.
>
>     And they come on disks with the latest version of the Scripter's
> Kit.
>
> >You won't find them on gaea as they're copyright Apple (they're DocWriter
> >documents).
>
>     Correct. And for the most part they look OK printed out on 3-hole
> punch paper.
>
> >Spend you $25 with APDA and you too can have a copy!
>
>     Actually, if you buy the Finder Scripting Kit from APDA you get a
> real Finder Scripting manual. Done in the same format as the rest of the
> AppleScript docs.
>
Nice idea... APDA in Australia isn't exactly always up-to-date with the
latest. How do I persuade them that the Finder Scripting Kit exists, and
that they can get it? Perhaps a part number?

If anyone from Apple is reading this, they might be interested in
discussing with me the difficulty in receiving development help in
Australia.

Thanks for the info,


/==============================\
| Jeremy P. Howard              |       "Logic must take care of itself."
| [e-mail]  |        Ludwig Wittgenstein
\==============================/                 Tractatus Logico-Philisophicus
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:18:35 +1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeremy Peter Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: stopping a moving train
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Brian V. Hughes" at Jul 7,
              94 03:40:31 pm

>
> --Jamie Lawrence wrote:
> >
> >I admit it- I'm one of the dummies that bought Tao of Applescript. I
> >can't afford a better reference right now, and I also can't figure out a
> >way to abort a script in mid execution. And Tao ain't helpin'. I've
> >tried "Exit" which turns into "Exit Repeat", which tries to do just that
> >(only there is no repeat to exit out of), "Abort" (which obviously isn't
> >a command), and "Quit" gives the a mystery error "Could not run the
> >script because a script is running.
>
>     Can you give us an idea of the script you are trying to abort? At
> worst you could wrap the whole script in a "repeat 1 time" statement and
> then you would be able to place "exit repeat" statements anwhere within
> the repeat loop to give you what you want.
>
I seem to remember that you can use 'my quit' or 'quit of me'.
Alternatively you can just use 'return' if you're not in a subroutine.

Jeremy
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:17:05 +1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeremy Peter Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: wierd variable substitution problem
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Brian V.
              Hughes" at Jul 7, 94 09:10:38 am

>
> --Jamie Lawrence wrote:
> >
> >Does anybody know what is going on here?
> >line 2 works just fine, but line 3 errors with "Could not
> >make "To" into an integer."
>
>     This looks a vriable reference problem...
>
> >1) tell application "Eudora"
> >2)   set mfolder to ""
> >3)   set theMessage to "Message " & messageNum & " of Mailbox Out"
> >       & " of Mail Folder " & mfolder
>
>     What you need to do, if you want to use theMessage in this manner is
> make it a reference. It would look like this:
>
> set theMessage to a reference to Message messageNum of Mailbox "Out" of Mail
>     Folder mfolder
>  [...]

Just in case anyone's interested, there is a abbreviation for 'a reference
to' (it gets annoying if you are scripting something which needs refs all
the time). Just use the single word 'ref'.

There are other abbrevs around - try shortening things and you might be
surprised at how often it works. For example, 'app' instead of
'application'.

Hope this helps,

Jeremy
/==============================\
| Jeremy P. Howard              |       "Logic must take care of itself."
| [e-mail]  |        Ludwig Wittgenstein
\==============================/                 Tractatus Logico-Philisophicus
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 18:50:32 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re[2]: working with nonscriptable applic.

>>>    Examining another application's windows could be done from an INIT,
>>>which can execute while another application is active. It gets kind of
>>>hairy, though, and one can't collect much meaningful information. It
>>>would be possible to determine the title of the window, but not much
>>>else.

>>All I need to know is if an app has any windows open, nothing about the
>>window's characteristics, just if it exists.

>   This is fairly easy. I'm not sure whether it's worth the effort to
>write this, though, since I can't think of a whole lot of reasons why
>one might want this information...

>   I'll play with this when I get the chance... I'm working on v1.5 of
>File Tracker right now, and it's taking a lot of my time... ;-)

If you do get around to it, please post it and let me know on this newsgroup.
 :)

Thanks,

~josh~
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 01:18:38 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dewi Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript heritage problems

I'm trying to AppleScript (v1.1) an old piece of code that shipped before
the AppleScript specs were nailed down. With a certain amount of enthusiasm
(and some ResEdit patching) it's working, but I'm wondering if there's a
more elegant way of doing it...

Question #1 : AppleScript's "the result" references the direct parameter in
the reply as returned by the target application. Is there any way of
accessing non-direct parameters? Especially when there isn't a direct one?
I tried fooling with "on error", but no success...

Question #2: the AppleEvent registry documents a 32 bit unsigned quantity
(typeMagnitude), but AppleScript doesn't believe in it (i.e. it happily
represents it as a negative quantity if the high bit is set). Am I missing
something, or is it just a leftover pascalism?

The background : I'm trying to script a poor orphan unsupported On Location
extension : version 2.0.1 (is there a later version?). It appears to be
working (caveat: minimal testing) after updating the 'aete' resource and
patching the AppleEvent code (resource 'EDOC' 18, if you're curious) to
return results as a direct parameter, but I'd prefer a solution that was
less invasive. On Location was abandoned back in 1991, so somebody may have
tackled this by now...

     Cheers,

         Dewi

========
Dorothy Signature is innocent.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 17:43:16 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Andy Kington <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting FileMaker Pro

>Todd Says:

>Two problems I am having:
>
>1) Get data returns records which are the nearest match e.g.
>
>  set rec to Get Data (first Record whose first Cell = partnum)
>  of Window dbname
//======================
try this one:

tell application "filemaker pro"
try
   set rec to Get Data (every Record whose Cell "part number" = 1)
on error
   display dialog "Couldn't find record" buttons {"Bummer"} default button 1
end try
end tell

NOTE: I don't think there was anything wrong with your script, If however
your first cell is a
text cell and not a number cell what you described would happen.

//======================

>2) Can you get a count of found records as opposed to total records? E.g.
>
>Show (every Record of Database "mydatabase" whose Cell "Name" = "Todd")
>        set n to (Count of Database "mydatabase" Class Record)

//=======================
tell application "filemaker pro"
try
   Show (every Record in Window "as test" whose Cell "description" = "Andy")
   set y to Record Count
   display dialog "There are " & y & " records that match" buttons
{"Coolness"}
       default button 1
on error
   display dialog "No Matches" buttons {"Humpf"} default button 1
end try
end tell
//===================
If you don't have Filemaker pro version 2.1v2 you can get the update from
info-mac.

Hope this helps ;-p

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:13:54 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Sean Carton (Theoretical Basketweaving THBW)"
              <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Open Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Jeremy Peter
              Howard" at Jul 8, 94 09:13:35 am

Hi!

After many months of avid lurking, I have a question-- does anyone know
what, if any, plans there are for integrating Mac Mosaic and Applescript
and/or Mac Mosaic with OpenDoc? Has anyone had any luck using MacHTTP and
Applescript, Frontier, or Quickeys to do stuff on a Mac WWW server that
you could accomplish on a Unix HTTP server?

Hope 'yall can help!

Sean
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 21:54:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Comments:     A VAX cluster with VMS V5.5-2, PMDF V4.2-10, JNET V3.6 & MU V3.2
From:         "Richard L. Upchurch" <[e-mail]>
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, North Dartmouth, MA, USA
Subject:      Re: Open Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability

>After many months of avid lurking, I have a question-- does anyone know
>what, if any, plans there are for integrating Mac Mosaic and Applescript
>and/or Mac Mosaic with OpenDoc?

Checking the dictionary for MacMosaic 2.0a2 you would find OpenURL as the only
event listed.

>Has anyone had any luck using MacHTTP and
>Applescript, Frontier, or Quickeys to do stuff on a Mac WWW server that
>you could accomplish on a Unix HTTP server?

We use MacHTTP here at UMass Dartmouth.  Our current work involves using
MacHTTP, AppleScript, AppleSearch,... to support our Campus Wide Information
system.  We have successfully served image maps, created forms and collected
the information from them to determine the next document to serve.  We are playi
ng
with a CGI to AppleSearch now to see what things we can/should deliver that way.
We also are working with scripting FoxPro (not my choice) to deliver info
that resides in that app (from a commercial service).

One interesting task we implemented used the information submitted in a form,
one info field was email address, and returned the information to the user
via email using Butte's TCP/IP OSAX.

R. Upchurch
CIS Dept.
UMass Dartmouth
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:23:14 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript heritage problems

>I'm trying to AppleScript (v1.1) an old piece of code that shipped before
>the AppleScript specs were nailed down. With a certain amount of enthusiasm
>(and some ResEdit patching) it's working, but I'm wondering if there's a
>more elegant way of doing it...
>
>Question #1 : AppleScript's "the result" references the direct parameter in
>the reply as returned by the target application. Is there any way of
>accessing non-direct parameters? Especially when there isn't a direct one?
>I tried fooling with "on error", but no success...

Not with AppleScript, which only understands the '----' parameter in the
reply (and the error stuff including the extra recently-added error stuff
(partial result and offensive object <er, offending object>).

Frontier has no problem with any parameters in the reply, if one uses the
complexEvent () verb (which puts each reply parameter into a table entry in
a table you designate, with the name equal to the key of the parameter).
If you really must deal with an older application which returns other
parameters, you need to build a simple forwarder application to sit between
the real server and AppleScript.  It's pretty easy...I've built a few.


>Question #2: the AppleEvent registry documents a 32 bit unsigned quantity
>(typeMagnitude), but AppleScript doesn't believe in it (i.e. it happily
>represents it as a negative quantity if the high bit is set). Am I missing
>something, or is it just a leftover pascalism?

It's not a leftover Pascalism...Pascal doesn't do unsigned (which is why
some things that "feel like" they should have 65535 limits have 32767
limits).  C, of course is happy with unsigned.

If you're quick enough, you might get away with coercing to a real (if you
end up creating a forwarder, you can do it there, of course...a forwarder
could also coerce to string, if you don't want to compute with the number
but only look at it.  Either coercion is built in to the AE Manager.).


>The background : I'm trying to script a poor orphan unsupported On Location
>extension : version 2.0.1 (is there a later version?). It appears to be
>working (caveat: minimal testing) after updating the 'aete' resource and
>patching the AppleEvent code (resource 'EDOC' 18, if you're curious) to
>return results as a direct parameter, but I'd prefer a solution that was
>less invasive. On Location was abandoned back in 1991, so somebody may have
>tackled this by now...

I abandoned On Location before that ;-)

   --John (who does Tech Support for UserLand Frontier, but is speaking for
himself)

--
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finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:29:46 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Open Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability

>Hi!
>
>After many months of avid lurking, I have a question-- does anyone know
>what, if any, plans there are for integrating Mac Mosaic and Applescript
>and/or Mac Mosaic with OpenDoc? Has anyone had any luck using MacHTTP and
>Applescript, Frontier, or Quickeys to do stuff on a Mac WWW server that
>you could accomplish on a Unix HTTP server?

Mosaic is written using MacApp (not sure which MacApp version).  So adding
scripting is tied to the availability of scripting and Open Doc support
there.  Scripting support is available from 3rd party vendors, for various
MacApp versions (I don't know whether that includes the version used for
Mosaic).

In another venue, the rumor was recently spread that Apple had licensed the
source code for Mosaic.  If true, one would suspect an Open Doc connection.
If.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 00:43:56 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Chris Etesse <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Excel: Selecting cell and adding text to it
In-Reply-To:  Message of Fri,
              8 Jul 1994 09:05:07 +1000 from <[e-mail]>

Hey, thanks a bunch for your suggestion. I had to play with it a little
but this is what worked:
Record2 (e)
=FOR.CELL("atccell",,TRUE)
newContents=CELL("contents")&" (1)"
=FORMULA(newContents)
=SELECT("RC[1]")
=NEXT()
=RETURN()

It worked like a charm and saved me a ton of time -- maybe I take a crack at
AppleScript next!!!

Thanks again,

Chris Etesse
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:05:16 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mark Alldritt <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations)

Hi,

I strongly suggest you switch to using Eudora's scripting interface.  It
allows you to delay while lengthy operations take place, and many other
things.  Below is a script I use daily to dialup and read mail via MacPPP
and Eudora:

--
--      Check The Mail
--      Copyright ) 1994  Mark Alldritt
--
--      This simple script establishes a MacPPP connection, checks for new
mail (and
--      uploades queued mail), and finally shuts down the MacPPP connection.
--
--      Notes:
--
--      Requires MacPPP Control 1.1 or later and Eudora 1.4.2 or later
--
--

try
        --
        --      Get Eudora started so we don't have to wait for it once
we've started the PPP
        --      connection (time is money!).
        --
        tell application "Eudora" to launch

        --
        --      Establish a PPP connection to the Mail Server
        --
        openPPP

        --
        --      waste some time while the connection is established.  This
is needed because MacPPP
        --      operates asynchronously.
        --
        set i to 1
        repeat while (i < 100 and not (PPPopened)) -- may need to increase
100 on fast Macs
                set i to i + 1
        end repeat
        if not (PPPopened) then
                error "MacPPP connection not opened"
        end if

        --
        --      Send queued messages and check for new mail
        --
        with timeout of 9999 seconds
                tell application "Eudora"
                        connect with Send and Check
                end tell
        end timeout

        --
        --      Shutdown the PPP connection
        --
        activate -- several activates are used to ensure the script is the
foreground
        activate -- process to avoid problems with closePPP when its called
from the
        activate -- background.
        activate
        closePPP

on error errorString
        --
        --      Something went wrong.  Let the user know, and offer to
close the connection
        --

        activate
        if PPPopened then
                display dialog "Can't check the mail (" & errorString & ").

Close MacPPP connection?" buttons {"Close", "Don't Close"} default button
"Close"
                if button returned of the result = "Close" then
                        closePPP
                end if
        else
                display dialog "Can't check the mail (" & errorString & ,
                        ")." buttons "OK" default button "OK"
        end if
end try

As for having your script run at regular times, I suggest you check out my
Scheduler package (available from the MACSCRPT archive and other sources).
It does just this, and many other things you may find usefull.

-Mark
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 13:47:03 +0200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Tilmann Robbe <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Replacing an element of a string

I thought what I wanted to do with AppleScript was trivial, but it wasn't,
at least for me...
I have a database in FileMaker Pro and I'd like to replace one single word
in a field, leaving the other words in the field untouched. As far as I
see this is impossible for FileMaker.
I told my script to get the appropriate cellValues of the found set of
records as a list of strings and I thought I should now be able to set
the word oldWord to newWord in each of the strings.
The AppleScript Language Guide states: "You cannot set the value of an
element of a string" (p. 64) which is what I wanted to do. Danny Goodman
writes: "In concert with a number of reference forms, script statements
can get and set anyone or all of an element of a string" (AppleScript
Handbook, p. 188). Who is right?
I tried

set word 3 of myString to newWord

but this indeed didn't work although I can _get_ word 3 of myString. I
tried a number of other things which I would not dare to post to the list
:-) but I couldn't find a solution for my problem. I know I could have
Scriptable Text Editor do the work and re-import the data into my database
but this seems rather unelegant. Any hints?
(This was my first posting in English - I hope it was english enough so
that you did understand my problem... :-> )

Thanks in advance!

Tilmann

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:14:56 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Sabatucci, Joe" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Filemaker Pro scripting

From: Sabatucci, Joe
Date: Fri, Jul 8, 1994 8:14 AM
Subject: Filemaker Pro scripting
To: MacScript
"Can you get a count of found records as opposed to total records?"

You can say:
set numRecs to Count Records of Database 1
 to get the  number of records in the entire Database, but:

        set numFound to Count Records of Document 1
to get number of records in the found set, i.e. using "Document" instead of
"database" refers to the found set.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 07:38:29 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Alex <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations)

On July 6th, Neil Christie wrote:

>...I have tried using timeouts and dialog boxes but they require me to be
>present defeating the purpose of the programs. I have also tried using the
>time the program has been running returned by the Application Info
>scripting addition in a repeat until. A sort of repeat until time = 180
>with the get the info line just before and also within the loop to give the
>programs three minutes but this didn't work. I know that Eudora is
>AppleScriptable but its commands are mainly related to filing messages and
>replying to existing messages. At present I am using Eudora v1.4, maybe the
>later versions are more scriptable I will have to have a look.

If you just want to pause or wait x seconds, the below function should work

        on wait(xSeconds)
                set returnTime to (current date) + xSeconds
                repeat until (current date) >= returnTime
                        --null do nothing except evaluate until condition
                end repeat
        end wait


You'd call it with

        wait(5) -- to wait 5 seconds

>I ideally want to be able to set the scripts to run at a certain time of
>the day, any suggestions as to how, preferably allowing the mac to be used
>in the meantime.

You can set up a cron type application with the AS idle handler. For instance
you can create a script application that does something every hour.

        doSomething()
                set x to ...
                ...
        end

        on idle
                doSomething()
                return 3600
        end

I don't think there is any real overhead until the callback is made to the
script.

Steve Alex
[e-mail]             Alabama Industrial Development Training
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:02:24 +0200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Andrew Maier <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Choosing a printer form a script

Hi all,
I would like to be able to choose a printer from a script. Something like:

choose printer "StyleWriter" at "ModemPort" with background printing on

or something simular. Is this possible?

cheers  Andrew


Andrew Maier            [e-mail]
Glockengasse 6/20               or
A-1020 Vienna           [e-mail]
Austria/Europe
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:05:20 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescripting Serial Port

        Thanks to those who replied, especially Paul Stoll who sent me the
excellent Dartmouth XCMD's 4.0.3 package.  That package has a serial port
XCMD which works with HC 2.1.  I whipped up a little interface to control
and read out a Fluke Scopemeter hand-held oscilloscope and save the data to
a file.  It works perfectly too!  Now that I think about it, HC should have
been my first choice anyway.  However, I want to have the data dumped into
a graph properly formatted.  This looks like a job for... AppleScript.
I'll write a script which triggers the HC stack (I added the aete for HC
2.1 that was floating around) and then use Excel to plot and print.  If
anyone has a better idea please let me know.

        I still think it would be great to have a serial port osax.  Is
anyone working on such a creature?  There seems to be a need.

        Thanks again Paul, and to the group at Dartmouth.

-- Dave



David L. Brown <[e-mail]>
Laboratory for Laser Energetics
250 East River Road
Rochester, NY 14623 USA                                           UR  \|/
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 12:40:08 EST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kim-Son Tran <[e-mail]>
Subject:      ccMail Scripting

Hi, I'm new to AppleScripting and this is my first post so here goes...

I seem to be having problems trying to script ccMail to print messages that
arrives with a text item file attachment. As you may know if you receive Mac
Script forum through e-mail in digest form, you'll sometime receive files that
are 32K or large as a text file attachment. Therefore, I'm trying develop a
script to automate the process of printing all MacScript digest I receive. Let
me elaborate a little further....

My script brings up ccMail login prompt waiting for my input of name and
password. Once a I've logged-in, I use the repeat statement to loop and check
each message in my inbox to see if the subject field contains "MACSCRPT Digest".
If it does, I invoke ccMail's PrintMessage command then move the message to its
appropriate folder for storage. Everything seems to work fine except the print
statement causes messages containing a text file attachment to print only one
page with a header (as I want it to) and a blank body. For those messages under
the 32K limit (which displays upon opening in the body of the message), the
entire message prints out fine. My Print Message settings does have the Print
Attached Files option checked.

So what's going on? Is this a bug with ccMail's PrintMessage command? I've even
tried to open the message via ccMail's OpenTheSelection command before issuing
the PrintMessage statement but no luck. When I do not have the script running
and I open the inbox, select the message with a text file attachment, and choose
Print Message from the File menu, everything prints out as expected. Strange...

Can anyone confirm this? Can anyone tell me how to do it better? Below is the
script's statements after a LoggedIn status has been determined:

on startTask()
    tell application "ccMail 2.1"
        activate
        OpenInbox
        set newMail to GetCount --Sets total number of messages in the inbox
        repeat until newMail = 0
            SelectNthLine newMail
            copy newMail - 1 to newMail
            if "MACSCRPT Digest" is contained by (GetSubject) then
                PrintMessage
                MoveToFolder "Mac Script Digest"
            end if
        end repeat
    end tell
end startTask

You can reply to me directly at [e-mail]

Thanks.
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:45:39 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable Finder docs

I said (three levels deep):
>> >Spend you $25 with APDA and you too can have a copy!

Jeremy P. Howard replied:

>Nice idea... APDA in Australia isn't exactly always up-to-date with the
>latest. How do I persuade them that the Finder Scripting Kit exists, and
>that they can get it? Perhaps a part number?
>
>If anyone from Apple is reading this, they might be interested in
>discussing with me the difficulty in receiving development help in
>Australia.
>

Personal expereince from when I was in the UK (at the University of
Liverpool) says that Apple support for developers outside the USA sucked.
We'ed ask Apple UK for stuff and they'ed claim they didn't have it or worse
yet that it didn't exist.

The solution: short circuit the bozos (and let Apple US know they're
screwing up) and order direct from APDA. All you need is a phone or fax and
a credit card. We also found that we could get stuff faster from APDA in
the US than from Apple in the UK even when they admitted having the
product. The total costs are not that much different.

APDA can be contacted at [phone] (voice) or [phone] (fax).
If you ask they will add you to their catalog mailing list.

Good luck,

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP   Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]           We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. Mail me!
[phone]                 "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:45:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescripting Serial Port

>        Thanks to those who replied, especially Paul Stoll who sent me the
>excellent Dartmouth XCMD's 4.0.3 package.  That package has a serial port
>XCMD which works with HC 2.1.  I whipped up a little interface to control
>and read out a Fluke Scopemeter hand-held oscilloscope and save the data to
>a file.  It works perfectly too!  Now that I think about it, HC should have
>been my first choice anyway.  However, I want to have the data dumped into
>a graph properly formatted.  This looks like a job for... AppleScript.
>I'll write a script which triggers the HC stack (I added the aete for HC
>2.1 that was floating around) and then use Excel to plot and print.  If
>anyone has a better idea please let me know.

Get the best of both worlds and upgrade to Hypercard 2.2 where you can
write scripts in Hypertalk and AppleScript. This would be ideal for your
application, I suspect. The you will only have one tack to maintain. The
upgrade shouldn't break the bank (it also has some other nice features).

Hypercard 2.2: it slices, it dices, its a dessert topping and a floor polish.

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP   Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]           We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. Mail me!
[phone]                 "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 13:17:27 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Frank Concannon <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Measuring Idle time under AppleScript

Hi

This is a second attempt to get this question addresed. (Mail Problems!)

        I want to do some stuff with the Mac based on the ammount of time
it sits idle

if idle for a period of time play a sound
if idle for longer period shutdown etc

that sort of thing.

        What I need to know is there a way to measure the idle time using
AppleScript ( the elapsed time since an event was generated i.e. mouse
moved key clicked etc. ) I guess its something similar to the mechanism
used by screen savers !.

        Any hints or suggestions would be appreciated!

Frank C.
R&E
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:31:43 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         mike hurley <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Measuring Idle time under AppleScript

>Hi
>
>This is a second attempt to get this question addresed. (Mail Problems!)
>
>        I want to do some stuff with the Mac based on the ammount of time
>it sits idle
>
>if idle for a period of time play a sound
>if idle for longer period shutdown etc
>
>that sort of thing.
>
>        What I need to know is there a way to measure the idle time using
>AppleScript ( the elapsed time since an event was generated i.e. mouse
>moved key clicked etc. ) I guess its something similar to the mechanism
>used by screen savers !.
>
>        Any hints or suggestions would be appreciated!
>

>From within applescript I have no idea; but Chris Johnson's cron
application can detect idle time, and could presumably then
launch an applescript application (not that I've tried this).

As of a month or so ago cron could be found at:
** the microlib/mac/util directory of
** microlib.cc.utexas.edu, the pub/chrisj directory of ftp.cc.utexas.edu and
** through the World-Wide Web at:
**
**     http://gargravarr.cc.utexas.edu/cron/cron.html
**
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 13:37:25 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dennis Birch <[e-mail]>
Subject:      "Is there a file?" command

I am new to AppleScript, and to this list, so I hope you will excuse me if
this question is too elementary, or if it has already been covered. Here's
what I'm wondering: Is there any way of testing for the existence of a file
from within AppleScript? In HyperCard I can use the statement "if there is
a file fileName then ..." I haven't been able to figure out a workaround
for doing the same thing in AppleScript. Thanks for any advice anyone can
offer.

-- Dennis Birch
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 13:54:56 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Measuring Idle time under AppleScript

>        What I need to know is there a way to measure the idle time using
>AppleScript ( the elapsed time since an event was generated i.e. mouse
>moved key clicked etc. ) I guess its something similar to the mechanism
>used by screen savers !.
>
        The folks at UserLand released an init called something like
IdleTime which could be queried via AE's to return the amount of time since
the last user action.  Chances are it's on gaea.

Leonard

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Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 14:40:02 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: "Is there a file?" command

>Is there any way of testing for the existence of a file
>from within AppleScript? In HyperCard I can use the statement "if there is
>a file fileName then ..." I haven't been able to figure out a workaround
>for doing the same thing in AppleScript. Thanks for any advice anyone can
>offer.

Using the scriptable finder each of the following scripts returns a boolean
in the result:

tell application "Finder"
        exists (folder "Dogcow:test:") -- folders only
end tell

tell application "Finder"
        exists (file "Dogcow:test") -- files only
end tell

tell application "Finder"
        exists (item "Dogcow:test:") -- either files or folders
end tell

In general the exists event will determine the existance of any object
(providing the application supports that object class).

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:29:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Why don't script objects have elements?

Q: Why don't script objects have elements?

This has bothered me a somewhat (I feel my sense of othogonality is left
unfulfilled).

Why do object classes in applications have elements but script objects
don't. It seems that just adding them wouldn't cause a problem. Imagine an
"element" keyword (similar to property). So I would define a script object
with two elements and a property int he following way:

script Foo
  element String
  element Text Style Info
  property quux: {}
end

This would be even more useful if it allowed you to have elements that
where script objects something like this:

script Word
  element String
end

script Foo
  element Word
end

So I could talk about

  first word of Foo

  last word of Foo

without getting mired in making my own collections from lists.

Of course everything you can do with elements you can also do with a list
of (possibly script) objects but the code is a little uglier. For example:

first item of word of Foo

Perhaps the problem lies in parsing these things (script objects don't have
their own aete's but one could fill a symbol table from their definition in
the script).

Ideas? Comments?

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:49:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dennis Birch <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: "Is there a file?" command

>>Is there any way of testing for the existence of a file
>>from within AppleScript? In HyperCard I can use the statement "if there is
>>a file fileName then ..." I haven't been able to figure out a workaround
>>for doing the same thing in AppleScript.

>Using the scriptable finder each of the following scripts returns a boolean
>in the result

I forgot to mention in my original post that I don't have a scriptable
Finder, and I'm trying to make this script as universal as possible (i.e.,
dependent on as basic a set-up as possible).
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 17:15:32 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      OSA Menu and Frontier

I'm using Frontier as a scripting environment, and I don't have
AppleScript. I have exported a deskscript as an OSA script (using the OSA
export suite released by UserLand in January). It works when exported as a
normal deskscript. When I attempt to execute the OSA version under OSA Menu
1.0.1, however, I get a "-3000" error reported by OSA Menu. I'm flying a
bit blind here. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

        David

David Lewis     Seagate Technology      [phone]  [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 20:49:46 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Barry Chern <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Last word and beyond (Quark)

Sorry to wait so long to continue this conversation, hope everyone hasn't
forgotten the drift.
=20
I've done some more testing and confirmed what I suspected about the
results in Quark being different because of the way I'm referencing the
paragraph (by a condition rather than a number.)
=20
Here's the phrases and results (from the Event Log, not the way I wrote the=
m):
=20
tell application "QuarkXPress=A8"
 =20
=09get last word of every paragraph of every story of document 1
whose it contains "490-85-300"
=09=09--> "490-85-300=09Street=09B&B=0910.5 x 1-23=09$194.99"
--the whole paragraph being returned
=09get last word of paragraph 3 of story 11 of document 1
=09=09--> "99"
--this was the same paragraph being referenced by number
=09get last word of every text of every paragraph of every story of
document 1 whose it contains "490-85-300"
=09=09--> "99"
--If I throw in the "text of" part, then it works. Anyone know why this is
necessary with one construct and not the other?
end tell=20
 =20
 =20
So, I guess that's that part of it. I thought the fact that I get "99"
instead of the whole price meant I had to decider if it's going to be
easier to tear apart a price from the source file and put its pieces back
together in Quark, or extract the whole paragraph into an Applescript
variable, tear that apart, replace the price (AppleScript returns
"$194.99" as the last word of the paragraph) and then replace the
paragraph in Quark.
=20
However the information from David Boroditsky that follows provided
valuable clues to things I was missing:
=20
DB> Please note that the period is missing.=20
DB>=20
DB>
DB> =20
set(delimittable[1].delimititem["."],canstartorendorbecontainedinword)=20
DB>=20
DB> will tell Quark to include period in the set of characters that can
DB> start or end or be contained in a word. Other possible values are
DB> notwordmember, canstartorendword, canbecontainedinword. These
DB> changes to the delimit table are not saved in documents or in the
DB> Quark app itself, so they must be set every time if your script
DB> needs them.=20
DB>=20
DB>=20
DB>   with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo]=20
DB>     thedata =3D get(word[contents =3D=3D bar].offset)=20
DB>=20
DB> thedata will be a list of the integer locations of the word bar in
DB> the textbox if there is more than one match, an integer otherwise.
DB> If you want to search a whole textflow (or story, textflow[1] seems
DB> to me to be identical to story[1])=20
DB>=20
DB>   with document[1].page[1].textbox[foo].story[1]=20
DB>=20
DB> will search the entire textflow (a potentially slow process) and
DB> also return a list or integer.
 =20
I hope I can figure out how to use these things in AppleScript. I'm
beginning to think this might be doable, have to play with the new info.
Do you have to reference the number of the delimit table you define
somehow to have it be in use? Anyone have example of AS syntax for this
and for using offset?
=20
Barry=20
=20
=20
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 21:46:17 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Replacing an element of a string

>I thought what I wanted to do with AppleScript was trivial, but it wasn't,
>at least for me...
>I have a database in FileMaker Pro and I'd like to replace one single word
>in a field, leaving the other words in the field untouched. As far as I
>see this is impossible for FileMaker.
>I told my script to get the appropriate cellValues of the found set of
>records as a list of strings and I thought I should now be able to set
>the word oldWord to newWord in each of the strings.
>The AppleScript Language Guide states: "You cannot set the value of an
>element of a string" (p. 64) which is what I wanted to do. Danny Goodman
>writes: "In concert with a number of reference forms, script statements
>can get and set anyone or all of an element of a string" (AppleScript
>Handbook, p. 188). Who is right?
>I tried

>set word 3 of myString to newWord

>but this indeed didn't work although I can _get_ word 3 of myString. I
>tried a number of other things which I would not dare to post to the list
>:-) but I couldn't find a solution for my problem. I know I could have
>Scriptable Text Editor do the work and re-import the data into my database
>but this seems rather unelegant. Any hints?

Try replacing the entire string, this shouldn't be too much more work.  I'm
not sure it will work, I don't have Filemaker Fro, but it's worth a shot.

>(This was my first posting in English - I hope it was english enough so
>that you did understand my problem... :-> )

I didn't know you weren't a native English speaker until you told me.  :-)

~josh~
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 22:47:38 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Choosing a printer form a script

Andrew Maier <[e-mail]> writes:

>I would like to be able to choose a printer from a script. Something like:
>choose printer "StyleWriter" at "ModemPort" with background printing on

1. "Set printer to" osax that's part of the freeware GTQ Scripting Library,
available on gaea.kgs.ukans.edu at /applescript/osax .

2. "Choosy" module that's part of the commercial QuickKeys 3.0 package from
CE software.

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 23:31:23 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: "Is there a file?" command

In generic AppleScript 1.1 (I don't know about 1.0), you can say:

try
  info for (filename as alias)
  --code to handle file-exists condition
on error
  --code to hanlde file-doesn't-exist condition
end try

This works for me (filename is the name, preceded by the full path except for
an applet which will use its own folder by default, of the file or folder
whose existance you wish to check).

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 20:35:36 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike! <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Macintosh Consultant Job Opening at Notre Dame, Indiana, USA

I apologize in advance to those who get bent out of shape over job postings
to mailing lists -- but I'm sure you'll get over it.


This position is for a Macintosh Consultant at the University of Notre Dame.

Responses to this job posting should be sent to:  [e-mail]
or mailed to:

                        Mac Consultant Search
                        c/o Shiree Moreland
                        G001 Computing Center
                        Notre Dame, IN  46556

Please mention in your cover letter or e-mail message which mailing list
you saw this job posting in.

Responses and resumes sent directly to me (Mike W. Miller) or posted back
to the list, while they might be good reading, will eventually be discarded
since we are not interested in people who can't follow simple directions.

Since this posting is for my current position (I've accepted a new position
within our organization), I'm intimately familiar with it.  I'll be happy
to answer questions about it, or the organizational, demographic,
political, social, or weather apsects of ND in private correspondence.
However, I'm currently at a conference and will be through 12 July, then
I'll be on vacation through 24 July.  While I'll still be doing e-mail the
entire time, my responses might be delayed.


 ============================================================================
                   P O S I T I O N   D E S C R I P T I O N
 ============================================================================

Title:          Consultant/Analyst (Macintosh)

Department:     Department of User Services
                Office of University Computing

Reports to:     Consulting Team Leader

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

General Summary
---------------
Provides direction to the user community regarding Macintosh hardware and
software; educates the community in the use of these products and
technologies; and provides support and trouble-shooting expertise to the
user community.  Works with others in the OUC to develop and support
computing-based services.


Principal Duties and Resonsibilities
------------------------------------
  1. Evaluates, recommends, installs, and supports Macintosh products
     (hardware, operating systems, and software) and makes recommendations for
     future OUC direction on this platform as part of the Macintosh Team.

  2. Installs and supports Macintosh application software for the campus
     user community.

  3. Prototypes and develops (alone or in teams) new LAN and
     enterprise-wide services.

  4. Educates and informs the user community by writing documentation,
     articles, and FAQs, contributing to support mailing lists and news groups,
     developing and teaching training courses, and presenting technology
     demonstrations as needed.

  5. Works with the Information Resource Center to provide end-user
     support, including trouble-shooting and problem-solving related to
     Macintosh applications and operating system.

  6. Keeps abreast of industry developments related to computing in
     general and Macintosh in particular.

  7. Serves as backup support for other campus and OUC consultants.

The General Summary and Principal Duties and Responsibilities sections
summarized above provide a representative listing only and should not be
regarded as a complete statement of tasks performed by this position.  It
should be recognized, therefore, that employees may be asked to perform
job- related duties beyond those outlined above.


Working Relationships:
----------------------
Reports to the Consulting Team Leader.  Interacts regularly with other User
Services and OUC staff members in a peer situation.  Interacts with vendors
to obtain product information.  Provides end-user support and training to
Notre Dame staff, faculty, and students.


Education Required:
-------------------
A minimum of a Bachelor's degree in computer science  or an applied
computing field (advanced degree preferred) or equivalent experience.


Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities required:
------------------------------------------
  * Advanced expertise on the Macintosh platform with operating systems,
    network systems administration, software applications, hardware and
    peripherals, and programming.

  * Three years computer applications or programming experience including
    one year of computer consulting and/or teaching experience.

  * Proficiency in at least one programming environment such as C, C++,
    Pascal, HyperTalk, or AppleScript.

  * Workstation maintenance and system administration experience helpful.

  * Background in any of the following workstation and network operating
    systems considered useful:  DOS, Windows, OS/2, Novell, UNIX, VM/CMS,
    MVS/TSO.

  * Experience with distributed computing environments such as AFS helpful.

  * Ability to work well with people and communicate effectively,  both
    verbally and in writing.  Ability and desire to work together in a team
    environment.


Working Conditions:
-------------------
Work is performed in a typical office environment.  Work involves use of
computer equipment, including sitting at a CRT, with almost no danger or
hazards.

 ============================================================================

Best wishes to all applicants!

Mike!


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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 21:32:04 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

>I'm using Frontier as a scripting environment, and I don't have
>AppleScript. I have exported a deskscript as an OSA script (using the OSA
>export suite released by UserLand in January). It works when exported as a
>normal deskscript. When I attempt to execute the OSA version under OSA Menu
>1.0.1, however, I get a "-3000" error reported by OSA Menu. I'm flying a
>bit blind here. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Hi, David...
   Error -3000 is (per MPW) "Invalid component ID (OS error -3000)"

You say you don't have AppleScript.  The way I would have written OSA Menu,
it would have handed the 'scpt' resource in the script file off to the
"Generic Scripting Component" and said "here, run this for me, whatever it
is".

The Generic Scripting Component would then determine (based on a code in
the resource) which scripting component to pass the call along to...in the
case of your script, that would be the UserTalk component.

Unfortunately, it is the AppleScript extension which installs the Generic
Scripting Component.

Leonard will be along soon, I'm sure, and let you know whether he wrote OSA
Menu the way I would have in this regard.  If so, you'll need to have the
AppleScript extension running.  [It's entirely possible that System 7.5
will move the Generic Scripting Component into the System file...it seems
to me that that's where it belongs, to be language-neutral.  On the other
hand, 7.5 will include AppleScript, so "everyone" will have it.]

   --John (speaking for himself)

--John W. Baxter    Port Ludlow, WA USA   [e-mail]
  UserLand Software support
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 00:40:45 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: killing backgroup applications

Here is a script to kill background apps.  Any apps you don't want to appear
(such as the Finder (although you might want this to appear) or KQ Apple
Events (this causes an error if don't)) should be listed in the list ok_apps
so that they will be ignored.

e-mail me if you use this, I'm also posting it on AOL.

******************************Script Starts
Here*******************************

--This will present a dialog box for each application running, giving the
option of quitting,
--ignoring, or quitting all running apps

property thisapp : 0
property ok_apps : {application "Finder", application "KQ Apple Events"}

repeat with thisapp in list applications
 if (thisapp is not contained by ok_apps) then
   display dialog ("Would you like to quit " & ((thisapp) as string)) buttons
x
    {"Quit All", "Quit", "Ignore"} default button 3
   if button returned of result is "Quit All" then --quit all apps
   repeat with thisapp in list applications
    if (thisapp is not contained by ok_apps) then
     tell thisapp
      quit
     end tell
    end if
   end repeat
  else if button returned of result is "Quit" then --quit this app
   tell thisapp
    quit
   end tell
  end if
 end if
end repeat --none others so ignore


******************************Script Ends Here*******************************

~josh~
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 00:42:39 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Killing Faceless Background Apps

Oops!  I forgot a line in that last post!

Include "set ok_apps to (ok_apps & this application)" before the first repeat
loop.

Thanks, and my apologies!  :-)

~josh~
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 01:47:32 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      is there a way to hide background apps?

I'm using frontmost, and I'm writing some scripts that access an fmpro
database and the scriptable text editor.  My question is this:  Is there
anyway to keep the background apps that are being scripted in the
background (ie, when I access some files in apps using frontmost, the
windows pop up in the background...Is there anyway to keep those windows
hidden)?

Any info would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Anthony

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 1994 22:57:46 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Cohen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

At  5:15 PM 7/8/94 -0800, David Lewis wrote:
>I'm using Frontier as a scripting environment, and I don't have
>AppleScript. I have exported a deskscript as an OSA script (using the OSA
>export suite released by UserLand in January). It works when exported as a
>normal deskscript. When I attempt to execute the OSA version under OSA Menu
>1.0.1, however, I get a "-3000" error reported by OSA Menu. I'm flying a
>bit blind here. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
You can't execute an OSA script if AppleScript isn't installed. In addition
to providing the AppleScript language, the AppleScript extension also
installs the scripting component needed to run any language (UserTalk,
QuicKeys Script, etc.) in an OSA environment.
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 14:43:11 +0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Todd Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Filemaker - thanks!

Thanks for all the help with FileMaker. I was probably getting
a bit carried away in overspecifying the window/database etc. This
is because these scripts are sent from a Newton to execute on
our server and hence you can never be sure what apps or
databases will be open at any one time.

I've changed the partnum example to use a number and it works
like a charm now. The changes required for the others look
fairly simple as well.

Throwing a question in at the deep end : at what point do you think
we will see AppleScript taking advantage of PowerPC performance? Given
that many of our favourite scriptable apps are close to being launched
as native code, what components will Apple need to port in the OS to
get better performance? System 7.5 doesn't seem to offer much. Will
System 8 offer much better performance from AppleScript? Your
thoughts are of interest.

Regards,

Todd
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 00:11:14 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Script Objects

>Q: Why don't script objects have elements?

This is a good question.  I think the ship date had something to do with
it.  ;)  I think it would make a dandy addition to the language though.
I'm just not holding my breath.  Imagine being able to create and
manipulate entire containment hierarchies of data in AppleScript.  Perhaps
just being able to add scripts to the root context from which all scripts
inherit.  It would sort of be like your Home stack in HyperCard.

In the meantime, it would be useful to be able to do some string and list
manipulation.  Another fellow is having trouble replacing a word in a
FileMaker field.  I have a solution.  Check out these nifty routines, just
this minute converted over from my HyperTalk code and added to.  Warning,
it's kind of long, but I don't think I broke and lines or used any
meta-ASCII characters.

Here's the code:

on beforeStr(source, target)
  set foo to offset of target in source
  if foo = 0 then
    return source
  else if foo = 1 then
    return ""
  else
    return (characters 1 thru (foo - 1) of source) as string
  end if
end beforeStr

on afterStr(source, target)
  set foo to offset of target in source
  if foo = 0 then
    return ""
  else
    copy foo + (number of characters of target) to foo
    if foo > number of characters of source then
      return ""
    end if
    return (characters foo thru -1 of source) as string
  end if
end afterStr

on replaceStr(thisStr, thatStr, source)
  set t to source
  repeat while thisStr is in t
    copy beforeStr(t, thisStr) & thatStr & afterStr(t, thisStr) to t
  end repeat
  return t
end replaceStr

on beforeList(source, target)
  set foo to 0
  repeat with i from 1 to number of items of source
    if item i of source = target then
      set foo to i
      exit repeat
    end if
  end repeat
  if foo = 0 then
    return source
  else if foo = 1 then
    return {}
  else
    return items 1 thru (foo - 1) of source
  end if
end beforeList

on afterList(source, target)
  set foo to 0
  repeat with i from 1 to number of items of source
    if item i of source = target then
      set foo to i
      exit repeat
    end if
  end repeat
  if foo = 0 then
    return {}
  else
    copy foo + (number of items of target) to foo
    if foo > number of items of source then
      return {}
    end if
    return items foo thru -1 of source
  end if
end afterList

on replaceList(thisList, thatList, source)
  set t to source
  repeat while thisList is in t
    copy beforeList(t, thisList) & thatList & afterList(t, thisList) to t
  end repeat
  return t
end replaceList

on replaceWord(source, itemNum, withStr)
  set t to words of source
  set item itemNum of t to withStr
  set oldDelim to AppleScript's text item delimiters
  set AppleScript's text item delimiters to space
  set t to t as string
  set AppleScript's text item delimiters to oldDelim
  return t
end replaceWord

on run
  -- start with a string
  set x to "Now is the time for all good men"

  -- munge the string lightly
  set x1 to replaceStr("men", "idiots", replaceStr("Now is", "Then was", x))

  -- convert it to a list of words
  set x2 to words of "Now is the time for all good men"

  -- munge the list lightly (should be the words of x1)
  set x3 to replaceList("men", "idiots", replaceList("Now is", "Then was", x2))

  -- convert x1 into a string using no delimiter (the default)
  set x4 to x3 as string

  -- now convert it with " " as the delimiter (this should be x1)
  set AppleScript's text item delimiters to space
  set x5 to x3 as string
  set AppleScript's text item delimiters to "" -- always set it back!

  -- this time munge the string by position
  set x6 to replaceWord(x, -1, "idiots")

  -- now display the results as a list
  {x, x1, x2, x3, x4, x5, x6}

end run

Here's the results from the run handler:

{"Now is the time for all good men", "Then was the time for all good
idiots", {"Now", "is", "the", "time", "for", "all", "good", "men"}, {"Now",
"is", "the", "time", "for", "all", "good", "idiots"},
"Nowisthetimeforallgoodidiots", "Now is the time for all good idiots", "Now
is the time for all good idiots"}

Let's look at each element of this list:

x = "Now is the time for all good men"
This is the original string.

x1 = "Then was the time for all good idiots"
This is the original string munged.

x2 = {"Now", "is", "the", "time", "for", "all", "good", "men"}
This is a list made from the words of the original string.  Any list will do.

x3 = {"Now", "is", "the", "time", "for", "all", "good", "idiots"}
This is the list munged the same way as the original string.

x4 = "Nowisthetimeforallgoodidiots
This is x3 converted to a string with "" between every word.  This is
AppleScript's default "text item delimiter" which is placed between every
list item when converting a list to a string.

x5 = "Now is the time for all good idiots"
You see how useful it can be?  This is x3 converted to a string, and it
just happens to be the original munged string.

x6 = "Now is the time for all good idiots"
This is the original string munged the same way, except that this one was
done by position, with -1 indicating the number of words from the end of
the string. You can use other numbers here.

So, doing strings and lists isn't as difficult as it may seem.  You just
need a few library routines.  ;)

Jon
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 16:17:56 +0200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Andrew Maier <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Turning AppleTalk on and off from a script

Hi all,

I would like to know if there is a possibility to toggle the state of
AppleTalk from a script. What I would like to have is the same as going
to the chooser and turning AppletTalk on (off).
I know there are programms and fkeys which toggle the state of appletalk.
But these programms generally assume that you turn appletalk on and all
the software then does is to enable or disable the AT driver. (hope that
was correct:). I want to turn it on and then reboot to have what I want
to have, just like in the chooser


cheers  Andrew

Andrew Maier            [e-mail]
Glockengasse 6/20               or
A-1020 Vienna           [e-mail]
Austria/Europe
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 10:12:40 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         George Synowiec <[e-mail]>
Subject:      The Scriptable Finder
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" at Jul 7, 94 03:16:00 pm

I realize that this would probably be too good to be true, but...

I don't suppose you could just copy the aete resource from the 7.5
Finder or perhaps the 7.1 Pro Finder into the normal, everyday 7.1
Finder and have scriptability?

The reason I'm asking is that I'm trying to create a startup floppy
with applescript and network extensions, and I'm trying to trim away
ANYTHING that is not essential. Frank Probul's Min-System-Installer
goes a long way in reducing the size of the System file, but does
little to reduce the size of the Finder.

George Synowiec
Network Technician
Indiana University
[e-mail]
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 13:37:37 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dennis Birch <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: "Is there a file?" command

>In generic AppleScript 1.1 (I don't know about 1.0), you can say:
>
>try
>  info for (filename as alias)
>  --code to handle file-exists condition
>on error
>  --code to hanlde file-doesn't-exist condition
>end try
>
>Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston


Thanks, Boris. This did exactly what I was looking for. I had tried
something similar previously, but was testing for the file type in my "info
for" statement. If the variable I was using for the filename wasn't
initialized to a file alias, I'd get an error. This solves that problem.

Regards,

Dennis Birch
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 16:34:42 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Barry Chern <[e-mail]>
Subject:      msg. formatting

Not a scripting question, but about the use of the list -

>end tell=20
> =20
> =20

Why did I end up with all these codes in my last post just because I
pasted it from a text editor into PINE? (I'm kind of new to using PINE,
btw.) I guess I could have expected something funny to creep into the code
I copied from the event log, but the above are just returns aren't they?
Is there some trick to cutting and pasting in this environment without it
getting all cluttered up?

Barry
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 14:37:56 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

>You can't execute an OSA script if AppleScript isn't installed. In addition
>to providing the AppleScript language, the AppleScript extension also
>installs the scripting component needed to run any language (UserTalk,
>QuicKeys Script, etc.) in an OSA environment.

I sort of thought that might be the case. Sigh... Thanks for the info, and
given the dates, I guess I'll wait for System 7.5.

        David

David Lewis     Seagate Technology      [phone]  [e-mail]
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 15:59:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Ray <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacPGP2.6

>I'm trying to write a script or other tool to "automagically" use the
>clipboard encrypting capability of MacPGP2.6 to sign my mail messages from
>a menu pick.

Please forward me any info you get about how to script MacPGP 2.6.

Thanks!

-Dave

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David Ray                Dream Designs          Music Composition
[e-mail]         PO Box 5631            Interactive Multimedia
510-527-9010             Berkeley CA 94705      Virtual Worlds
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jul 1994 18:04:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: The Scriptable Finder

>I realize that this would probably be too good to be true, but...
>
>I don't suppose you could just copy the aete resource from the 7.5
>Finder or perhaps the 7.1 Pro Finder into the normal, everyday 7.1
>Finder and have scriptability?
>
>The reason I'm asking is that I'm trying to create a startup floppy
>with applescript and network extensions, and I'm trying to trim away
>ANYTHING that is not essential. Frank Probul's Min-System-Installer
>goes a long way in reducing the size of the System file, but does
>little to reduce the size of the Finder.
>

No...the Scriptable Finder is a System 7.1 or later Finder PLUS the Finder
Scripting Extension.  That (I believe) remains true in System 7.5, from the
talk I read.  The 'aete' that appeared in System 7 Pro does not create the
Scriptable Finder (it changes how you write the old events which have been
in every Finder starting with 7.0).

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:46:40 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Paul G Smith <[e-mail]>
Organization: commstalk, & Full Moon Software Inc
Subject:      Re: Applescripting Serial Port

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
>  Is there an osax for simple serial port communications through
> >Applescript?  I suppose SITComm might do what I need, but it's overkill for
> >my purposes.  If not, what's available for Hypercard 2.1?

There's also our commstalk for HyperCard XCMDs, which you'll find in the
APDA catalog amongst other places. Email [e-mail] for details.


best regards, Paul

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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 12:11:43 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

>You say you don't have AppleScript.  The way I would have written OSA Menu,
>it would have handed the 'scpt' resource in the script file off to the
>"Generic Scripting Component" and said "here, run this for me, whatever it
>is".
>
        That's what I do...


>The Generic Scripting Component would then determine (based on a code in
>the resource) which scripting component to pass the call along to...in the
>case of your script, that would be the UserTalk component.
>
>Unfortunately, it is the AppleScript extension which installs the Generic
>Scripting Component.
>
        Right!


>If so, you'll need to have the AppleScript extension running.
>
        Yup!

Leonard

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Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 12:12:15 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: The Scriptable Finder

>I don't suppose you could just copy the aete resource from the 7.5
>Finder or perhaps the 7.1 Pro Finder into the normal, everyday 7.1
>Finder and have scriptability?
>
        Well, you could copy the 'aete' from the 7.1.2/7.1.3 Finder that
just describes the "old" Finder events into any 7.0 Finder and that should
work.  The 7.5 'aete' won't work since that also involves a LOT of extra
code.


Leonard

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Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 11:47:19 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "W. J. Proffer" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application

Can anybody assist in answering a couple of questions:

1)  Is the current version of the Apple QuickTake Camera application ( the
program that allows you to control the camera from the Macintosh)
scriptable?

2)  If so, does anybody have a list of the AppleEvents and/or script verbs
to which the application responds?

Thanks much,

bill

<pre>
William J. Proffer
Senior Staff Scientist
Test Technology Group
S-Cubed, A Division of Maxwell Labs
3398 Carmel Mountain Road
San Diego, CA  92038-1095
[phone]
[phone] (fax)
[e-mail]
World Wide Web URL:  http://www.scubed.com:8001/
</pre>
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 13:33:29 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Turning AppleTalk on and off from a script

>Andrew Maier <[e-mail]> said:

>I would like to know if there is a possibility to toggle the state of
>AppleTalk from a script. What I would like to have is the same as going
>to the chooser and turning AppletTalk on (off).
>I know there are programms and fkeys which toggle the state of appletalk.
>But these programms generally assume that you turn appletalk on and all
>the software then does is to enable or disable the AT driver. (hope that
>was correct:). I want to turn it on and then reboot to have what I want
>to have, just like in the chooser

I would use my Jon's Commands osax and my ToggleAT FKEY to write a script
which would do this, like so (this works in ALL 7.x Finders):

=46or the MIME capable:

execute FKEY "ToggleAT" -- you could use the number here instead of the name
tell application "Finder" to =ABevent FNDRrest=BB

=46or the digest readers:

execute FKEY "ToggleAT" -- you could use the number here instead of the name
tell application "Finder" to <<event FNDRrest>>

And for anyone with an aete in their Finder:

execute FKEY "ToggleAT" -- you could use the number here instead of the name
tell application "Finder" to restart


However, I think this is the wrong solution to this problem.  I've written
a small faceless background app which I think is a more painless solution
that gets rid of the restart.  It's called AppleTalkOn and Michael Crichton
sent in his shareware fee for it.  ;)  It should be on Sumex.  All it does
is turn AppleTalk on when it quits.  This should only be when you restart.
Then when you boot up and it starts, it sets AppleTalk back to the way it
was.  This keeps AppleTalk loaded and in memory and able to turn itself on
and off without restarting.  This makes my ToggleAT FKEY even more useful
since it won't require you to reboot when you turn it on.  The only problem
is crashes since it won't get a chance to turn AppleTalk on, but if you're
crashing a lot then you probably can cope with another restart.  ;)

Of course, if you want to unload AppleTalk for the 400K that it saves, then
you need more memory.  :)

Andrew sounds like he's trying to get around some crappy software though,
so he'll want the restart for that.  Frankly, if your software needs a
reboot after you turn AppleTalk on, then you need new software too.

Jon's Commands is on gaea and Sumex.  ToggleAT and AppleTalkOn should still
be on Sumex.  Let me know if they aren't.

Jon
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 10:32:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: is there a way to hide background apps?

anthony brown <[e-mail]> asks:

>Is there
>anyway to keep the background apps that are being scripted in the
>background (ie, when I access some files in apps using frontmost, the
>windows pop up in the background...Is there anyway to keep those windows
>hidden)?

You can hide the applications completely. If you have the Scriptable Finder,
you can use something like the following:

        tell application "Finder"
            set visible of process "Victim" to false
        end tell

If you don't have the Scriptable Finder, then you can use my Application Menu
scripting addition, available from all good FTP sites, which lets you script
the first three entries in the application menu. You would use a script
something like this:

        tell application "Victim"
            activate
            hide front application
        end tell
        activate "MyApp"

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 10:37:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: msg. formatting

Barry Chern <[e-mail]> asks:

>Not a scripting question, but about the use of the list -
>
>>end tell=20
>> =20
>> =20
>
>Why did I end up with all these codes in my last post just because I
>pasted it from a text editor into PINE?

I think those characters are trailing blanks. There's something in RFC822
(the Internet e-mail message format spec) about not relying on trailing blanks
being preserved (or assuming that they won't be added), so naturally MIME
conventions would require them to be quoted, just in case.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 23:08:39 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application

>1)  Is the current version of the Apple QuickTake Camera application ( the
>program that allows you to control the camera from the Macintosh)
>scriptable?

I don't know, but if you open it's dictionery from AppleScript, you will find
out.  If it has a dictionery, it's scriptable.

>2)  If so, does anybody have a list of the AppleEvents and/or script verbs
>to which the application responds?

If it has a dictionery, they will be listed and somewhat explained there.

Hope this helps  :)

~josh~
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 00:38:27 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kiran Wagle <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Script Editor

Is it just me, or is the script editor unable to open its own dictionary?

Is it in fact even scriptable?

Another clueless newbie,

~ Kiran <[e-mail]>

--
6216 41st Avenue Hyattsville MD 20782 301/779-0756 <[e-mail]>
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 21:43:33 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: msg. formatting

At 10:37 7/11/94 +1200, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
wrote:
>Barry Chern <[e-mail]> asks:
>
>>Not a scripting question, but about the use of the list -
>>
>>>end tell=20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>
>>Why did I end up with all these codes in my last post just because I
>>pasted it from a text editor into PINE?
>
>I think those characters are trailing blanks. There's something in RFC822
>(the Internet e-mail message format spec) about not relying on trailing blanks
>being preserved (or assuming that they won't be added), so naturally MIME
>conventions would require them to be quoted, just in case.

They are indeed trailing blanks...and it makes sense that the RFC should
warn against them.  One example machine where they are a problem is (was)
the CDC Cyber 175.  You simply couldn't tell whether the last trailing
blank on a line from a terminal was really typed by the user, because the
IOP would pad the last 12-bit word it tranferred with a blank, if the last
"real" character was in its first half.  And there was no indication
whether the blank was real or padding.

I suspect other machines in the Cyber line were like that, and there were
certainly many around in the early days of the Internet.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:46:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Script Editor

Kiran Wagle <[e-mail]>

>Is it just me, or is the script editor unable to open its own dictionary?
>
>Is it in fact even scriptable?

No, it's not you. The Script Editor is not scriptable. You want a scriptable
script editor? Try HyperCard. I posted a set of externals on the net which
give you access to most of the OSA functions, including script recording.
They work fine with HyperCard 2.1, but naturally you can use them with 2.2
as well, which is scriptable.

>Another clueless newbie,

I guess I could be a clueless oldbie. :-)

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:00:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Script Editor

>Is it just me, or is the script editor unable to open its own dictionary?
>
>Is it in fact even scriptable?
>
>Another clueless newbie,

The Script Editor is not scriptable and has no dictionary.  It posts two
application-level event handlers:  one for 'low '/'evnt' and one for
typeWildCard/typeWildCard.  The latter isn't much help for reverse
engineering, either...it matches any Apple event which comes along (except
the 'low '/'evnt', which is caught by its own handler.

[I've given up trying to keep up with "who" installs all the System-level
event handlers (and coercions) that pollute the system these days.
Scripting Additions are many of them, but not all.  Life was easy before
AppleScript, when all the System handlers on my machine came from Frontier
<sigh>.]

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:04:23 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kee Nethery [phone] <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application

>2)  If so, does anybody have a list of the AppleEvents and/or script verbs
>to which the application responds?

I would imagine that Jon Pugh will respond to this query since he probably
fathered all the QuickTake AppleEvents. :-)

Kee Nethery
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:38:54 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application

>1)  Is the current version of the Apple QuickTake Camera application ( the
>program that allows you to control the camera from the Macintosh)
>scriptable?

No.  It is not.  However, Apple's PhotoFlash 1.1 includes the PhotoFlash
Camera Scripting Addition which does allow you to script all of the camera
functions. It is my understanding that this osax is also available as part
of the QuickTake 100 Developer's Kit.

Of course, I wrote most of the camera osax.  ;)

Jon
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jul 1994 23:42:47 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Oliver Muoto <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Script Editor

If anyone is serious about scripting non-applescriptable apps they should
definately try CE's QuicKeys 3.0. Since its OSA compliant you can use the
Script Editor to record and edit QuicKey scripts which all you pretty much
to script any app.  Although its not quite as robust as applescript it
usually does the trick.  You can even add the scripts to OSA menu and bingo
you have a "scriptable" script editor (...kind of).

Oliver Muoto
SpinMedia
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 07:19:00 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "David Habermann, DTRL, 517 636-8632" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scripting MacHTTP

I'm also a new Applescript user and this is my first post here (as I've seen
several others say over the last few days).  It is good to see that you folks
have a "new-user friendly" location.

I've been trying to write a script for MacHTTP to use to return different
documents to the remote WWW user depending on which site (ie: type of
production plant) they come from.  When the document to return is a text file,
I can use the Scriptable Text Editor to do this as follows:

tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
        open "HD1:Document_A.TXT"
        copy text of document 1 to x
        close document 1 saving no
        return x
end tell

However, this will not return the contents of a binary file (image file, Word
document, Excel spreadsheet, etc).  So, I'm looking for some other method to
"return the contents of file xyz" that doesn't care what is in the file.

Any ideas for me?  Thanks!

Dave Habermann
Dow Chemical Company
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:21:42 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dave Fitch <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Looking for open windows in scriptable finder

Hi folks

I'm trying to get the following script to work, so I can use it in an
script-application, and I'm having problems with the second if statement.

tell application "Finder"
    if folder "Fonts" of folder "System Folder" of startup disk exists then
        if window of folder "Fonts" of folder "System Folder" of startup disk
             exists then
                display dialog "font folder HAS window" buttons {"ok"}
        else
                display dialog "font folder has NO window" buttons {"ok"}
        end if
    else
        beep
    end if
end tell

The first if evaluates correctly all the time: the second seems to produce
whatever it wants... (What I am trying to do is find out a) if a folder exists,
and b) is it open). I have tried the first, moving folders back and forth and
so on and always get the correct answer. The second sometimes works the first
time I run it, but then always returns the same value, regardless of whether
the window actually exists. Am I making a mistake by conflating exists with is
open, or is there something else going on?

(I tried to set the value of the expression to a local variable, thinking that
was the problem, but still got exactly the same result)

Should I be asking the scriptable finder for a list of all open windows, and
then step through the list, instead? (Yuk?)

Any hints/answers greatly appreciated!
Dave

------------------------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail]             Dave Fitch
                                Department of Geography
                                University of Edinburgh
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 07:11:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting MacHTTP

>I've been trying to write a script for MacHTTP to use to return different
>documents to the remote WWW user depending on which site (ie: type of
>production plant) they come from.  When the document to return is a text file,
>I can use the Scriptable Text Editor to do this as follows:
>
>tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
>        open "HD1:Document_A.TXT"
>        copy text of document 1 to x
>        close document 1 saving no
>        return x
>end tell
>
>However, this will not return the contents of a binary file (image file, Word
>document, Excel spreadsheet, etc).  So, I'm looking for some other method to
>"return the contents of file xyz" that doesn't care what is in the file.

The good news is that Apple has provided the Scripting Addition named
Read/Write commands.  The bad news is that I have this stashed in my
    Scripting Additions (broken)
folder.  I'm not sure now why...I think that one or more of the commands is
broken on Power Mac.  I'm sure someone here will correct that statement as
needed.

The commands there are:

open for access:

close access: Close the file which was opened for access.

get eof: Get end of file for specified file.

set eof: Set end of file for specified file.

read: Read from file.
   [This one has a bunch of options, some of which combine to read anything
you want.]

write: write to file

  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:16:10 -0300
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         simon <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AScript to do network copy?

Is there a script which will allow copying of files from one remote finder to
another?

simon lucas
school of information systems
kington university
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 10:25:22 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Looking for open windows in scriptable finder
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Dave Fitch" at Jul 11, 94 12:21:42 pm

--Dave Fitch wrote:
>
>Should I be asking the scriptable finder for a list of all open windows, and
>then step through the list, instead? (Yuk?)

    Well, it looks like you should probably ask for a list of windows
and do a loop through them. This is the bad news. The good news is you
can cut this list of windows down to one or two items. This is a little
script I whipped up that should do the trick for you...

-Hades
p.s. note the wrapped line.

tell application "Finder"
    set hasWin to false
    set fontWin to a reference to window of folder "Fonts" of folder
"System Folder" of startup disk
    set winList to every window whose name = "Fonts"
    if class of winList is not equal to list then set winList to {winList}
    repeat with w in winList
        if contents of w = fontWin then
            set hasWin to true
            exit repeat
        end if
    end repeat
end tell
if hasWin then
    display dialog "Fonts folder has window"
else
    display dialog "Fonts folder has no window"
end if
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 09:41:35 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Script Editor

>[I've given up trying to keep up with "who" installs all the System-level
>event handlers (and coercions) that pollute the system these days.
>
        I believe that the AS extension loads all the OSAXen handlers,
which, as you note, make up a good chunk (probably about 95%) of the
handlers.   The others are probably installed by utilities like OSA Menu (I
use one for handling running scripts outside of trap patch time).


Leonard

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:37:07 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "B. Bruce Brinson" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Script Editor

Kiran,

 It's not just you - the Script Editor has no dictionary, being unscriptable.
Bruce

>B. Bruce Brinson
>Internet    : [e-mail]
>AppleLink : b.brinson
>FAX           : [phone]
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:53:26 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Daniel Hagerty <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescripting Serial Port

>        Is there an osax for simple serial port communications through
>Applescript?  I suppose SITComm might do what I need, but it's overkill for
>my purposes.  If not, what's available for Hypercard 2.1?  I remember this
>being asked before, but I didn't find an answer in my search of the list
>archives.  Thanks in advance.

        Well, I wrote (ages ago, this is pre-osax/UCMD) a small scriptable
appp that allows you to access the serial port for Frontier, and it does
have a dictionary in it. Try looking in the Frontier direectory on gaea, it
should be called PhoneDialer or something like that (it's part of a larger
package).

   Hag   %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%%%%%%%%%% Daniel Hagerty; <[e-mail]> (with several aliases) %
% Phone: [phone]; Snail: Box 1234, Vineyard Haven, MA 02568 %
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% PGP + MIME Spoken Here %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:45:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Script Editor

>>[I've given up trying to keep up with "who" installs all the System-level
>>event handlers (and coercions) that pollute the system these days.
>>
>        I believe that the AS extension loads all the OSAXen handlers,
>which, as you note, make up a good chunk (probably about 95%) of the
>handlers.   The others are probably installed by utilities like OSA Menu (I
>use one for handling running scripts outside of trap patch time).

Hi, Leonard...

   All I was really getting at is that I'm too lazy to figure out for sure
whether Script Editor installs any System handlers.  It would basically
take cleaning out the Scripting Additions, and checking installed handlers
(Frontier and OSA Menu are easy to account for, or they could be cleaned
out, too), or watching with AETracker.

   --John



--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:17:39 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

>You can't execute an OSA script if AppleScript isn't installed. In addition
>to providing the AppleScript language, the AppleScript extension also
>installs the scripting component needed to run any language (UserTalk,
>QuicKeys Script, etc.) in an OSA environment.

As John suggested in his resonse, this isn't necessarily true. Instead of
using the Generic Scripting Component, a utility like OSA Menu could call
OSAGetStorageType and open the appropriate scripting component directly.
Less overhead that way too -- one component instead of two.

Doug
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:17:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

>>You say you don't have AppleScript.  The way I would have written OSA Menu,
>>it would have handed the 'scpt' resource in the script file off to the
>>"Generic Scripting Component" and said "here, run this for me, whatever it
>>is".
>>
>        That's what I do...
>
>
>>The Generic Scripting Component would then determine (based on a code in
>>the resource) which scripting component to pass the call along to...in the
>>case of your script, that would be the UserTalk component.
>>
>>Unfortunately, it is the AppleScript extension which installs the Generic
>>Scripting Component.
>>
>        Right!
>
>
>>If so, you'll need to have the AppleScript extension running.
>>
>        Yup!

Leonard,

May I suggest that in the next version of OSA Menu you call
OSAGetStorageType open open the specific scripting component directly
instead of using the Generic Scripting Component? Even with System 7.5
coming out, not everyone will have it for a while. And among those that
have it, some may choose not to have AppleScript installed.

Doug
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:33:39 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Brian Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Free Space?

Is it possible to find out the free space of a volume w/o any OSAXen? (ie,
just using AppleScript 1.0 or 1.0).

__________________________________________________________________________
Brian Hall                                     Internet: [e-mail]
Mark/Space Softworks                             AppleLink, AOL: MARKSPACE
Macintosh connectivity software.   Goodies at ftp.netcom.com in pub/mspace

                    NEW BUSINESS ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBERS
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 17:55:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Cohen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

At  3:17 PM 7/11/94 -0700, Doug Baron wrote:
>>You can't execute an OSA script if AppleScript isn't installed. In addition
>>to providing the AppleScript language, the AppleScript extension also
>>installs the scripting component needed to run any language (UserTalk,
>>QuicKeys Script, etc.) in an OSA environment.
>
>As John suggested in his resonse, this isn't necessarily true. Instead of
>using the Generic Scripting Component, a utility like OSA Menu could call
>OSAGetStorageType and open the appropriate scripting component directly.
>Less overhead that way too -- one component instead of two.
>
I thought all of the OSA calls required AppleScript - I wasn't aware
OSAGetStorageType could be used.

Mike Cohen              | "Software that means business"
ISIS International      |
[phone] Voice    |
[phone] Fax      |
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:57:20 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      frontmost and listboxes...

Can anyone help me out?
I am trying to copy a name that is stored in a variable into a listbox.
My problem is this.  I can get a name into the first row of the listbox,
but when I try to put anything into a row other than the first, I can't
even compile the code.  Here is what I am using to put the info in the
first row....

set contents of listbox "nameBox" of window "Hot Recruit Leads" to temp

this is the only way that frontmost allows me to put anything into a
listbox.  when I try this:

set contents of row counter of listbox "nameBox" of window "Hot Recruit
Leads" to temp

I can't compile.  I get this message saying that an identifier cant go
after this identifier, then it goes and hilights row counter.  Note,
counter is a loop control variable...

can anyone help?

Anthony

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=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 1994 18:25:41 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSA Menu and Frontier

>>You can't execute an OSA script if AppleScript isn't installed. In addition
>>to providing the AppleScript language, the AppleScript extension also
>>installs the scripting component needed to run any language (UserTalk,
>>QuicKeys Script, etc.) in an OSA environment.
>
>As John suggested in his resonse, this isn't necessarily true. Instead of
>using the Generic Scripting Component, a utility like OSA Menu could call
>OSAGetStorageType and open the appropriate scripting component directly.
>Less overhead that way too -- one component instead of two.

Hi, Doug...

   I don't think OSAGetStorageType () would be there in the absence of
something which installs OSA-ness.  I think that's the AppleScript
extension in version 1.1 (but I'm too lazy to find out), and quite probably
the now-obsolete Apple Event Manager extension also installed the OSA stuff
in the days of AppleScript 1.0.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 00:17:51 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript

>I thought all of the OSA calls required AppleScript - I wasn't aware
>OSAGetStorageType could be used.

OSAGetStorageType is glue code from OSACompLib (and you were wondering what
was in there).  OSAAddStorageType & OSARemoveStorageType are also in that
library.  I think the routines are trivial.  They just slap a signature on
the end of the script.

With this info, you certainly could open a component connection directly to
the specific component without making any generic OSA calls.  However, the
Generic Component was designed to spare you the bother.  In addition, you
should preflight all your component calls by checking if the specific
component (of which you have no idea which one it is) supports the calls
you are going to make.  The generic component does this for you too.

Would a modified OSA Menu really provide any functions that Frontier
doesn't already provide with it's Finder menu and MenuSharing?

Jon
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 06:08:07 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Herb Schilling <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: frontmost and listboxes...

>Can anyone help me out?
>I am trying to copy a name that is stored in a variable into a listbox.
>My problem is this.  I can get a name into the first row of the listbox,
>but when I try to put anything into a row other than the first, I can't
>even compile the code.  Here is what I am using to put the info in the
>first row....
>
>can anyone help?

Try this ( assuming your name variable is: theString ) :

 tell window "Some Window"
        copy the contents of listbox "Some List Box" to stuff
        copy stuff & {theString} to the contents of listbox "Some List Box"
 end tell


There isn't a way to add the name to the list box directly, I guess.

--
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Cleveland Ohio 44135 [phone] Fax:[phone] [e-mail]
AppleLink: SCHILLING.H
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 08:46:03 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         John Schettino <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: frontmost and listboxes...

>Can anyone help me out?
>I am trying to copy a name that is stored in a variable into a listbox.
>My problem is this.  I can get a name into the first row of the listbox,
>but when I try to put anything into a row other than the first, I can't
>even compile the code.  Here is what I am using to put the info in the
>first row....
>
>set contents of listbox "nameBox" of window "Hot Recruit Leads" to temp
>
>this is the only way that frontmost allows me to put anything into a
>listbox.  when I try this:
>
>set contents of row counter of listbox "nameBox" of window "Hot Recruit
>Leads" to temp
>
>I can't compile.  I get this message saying that an identifier cant go
>after this identifier, then it goes and hilights row counter.  Note,
>counter is a loop control variable...
>
>can anyone help?

Yep: answer is you cannot replace individual rows of a listbox. Get all
the text out first, copy unchanged lines, change lines you want to, then
set listbox
to new value:

-- untested code, but "pretty darn close"

tell listbox "nameBox" of window "Hot Recruit Leads"
        set oldList to contents

        set newList to ""
        repeat with counter from 1 to (count paragraphs in oldList)
        if something -- whatever you choose to test
                -- keep this line as is
                set newList to newList & paragraph counter of oldList & return
        else
                -- change this line
                set temp to "whatever"
                set newList to newList & temp & return
        end if
        set contents to newList
end tell

- john

-----------------------------------------
[e-mail]             GTE Laboratories
John Schettino                Waltham, MA
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 09:20:03 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Free Space?
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Brian Hall" at Jul 11, 94 04:33:39 pm

--Brian Hall wrote:
>
>Is it possible to find out the free space of a volume w/o any OSAXen? (ie,
>just using AppleScript 1.0 or 1.0).

    Um... sure. Of course you'll need the Scriptable Finder to do it,
but it's very possible.

tell app "Finder"
    free space of startup disk
end tell

    This will return the number of bytes free.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 07:14:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript

>>I thought all of the OSA calls required AppleScript - I wasn't aware
>>OSAGetStorageType could be used.
>
>OSAGetStorageType is glue code from OSACompLib (and you were wondering what
>was in there).  OSAAddStorageType & OSARemoveStorageType are also in that
>library.  I think the routines are trivial.  They just slap a signature on
>the end of the script.

Actually, I hadn't wondered about OSACompLib, because I hadn't noticed it.
Having always used the generic scripting component route in my playing (er,
exploring), I hadn't needed the other routines.  Thanks, yet again, for the
education!

>
>Would a modified OSA Menu really provide any functions that Frontier
>doesn't already provide with it's Finder menu and MenuSharing?

Yes:  it would permit an application-specific menu-based group of scripts
for an application which doesn't support Frontier-based menu sharing, on a
system whose user hasn't installed AppleScript.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 09:20:38 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      FaceSpan vs do script "foo"

  I have been tinkering with a FaceSpan script, which used (Monday evening)
this handler (=81 is the trademark symbol) on a button

on hilited theObj
    set n to selection of popup "criterionKind" of window "Selection"
    set criterionKind to item n of {"keyword", "uploader", "filename"}
    set criterion to contents of textbox "criterion" of window "Selection"

    set x to "libInfo.lookup (\"" & criterionKind & "\", \"" & criterion &
"\")"

    tell application "UserLand Frontier=81"
        set ans to Do Script x
    end tell

    displayLookupResult(ans)
end hilited

The effect of doing that is that the parameter to the Do Script event is
transmitted as type 'STXT'.  I muttered (loudly), and modified Frontier's
handler script for the do script event to cope with 'STXT'.

It turns out that my way of setting the variable criterion was the cause of
the 'STXT' parameter:
    set criterion to contents of textbox "criterion" of window "Selection"
quite understandably produces styled text, and that propogates along.

A simple coercion, as in

    set criterion to (contents of textbox "criterion" of window
"Selection") as string
    --really one line

makes the parameter to Do Script a (legal per the Apple Event Registry)
plain string.

Something to watch for if you send Do Script events out of AppleScript code.

--------
Since doing all that, I have done away with the Do Script altogether...the
current script doesn't bother with the temporary x, and the action is done
by the cleaner (IMHO) snippet which follows.

  (The | is the vertical bar character, and is used for a form of quoting
here:  it seems to tell AppleScript "trust me, I know what I'm doing."
Without the | quoting, the period in libInfo.lookup is illegal AS syntax.)

    tell application "UserLand Frontier=81"
        set ans to |libInfo.lookup|(criterionKind, criterion)
    end tell


-----
Hope this saves someone else some time sometime.
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
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=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 15:20:22 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Frank Lowney <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Why does this recorded script fail?

The script cited below was recorded using the Scriptable Finder and
Scriptable Text Editor.  When I try to "run" it, I get the following error:

Scriptable Text Editor got an error:
Can't make some data into the expected type.

The offending line is:

open file "Duo Dock HD:AppleScript=81 Utilities:Frontmost Release Notes"

What I would like to understand is why this script fails.

Thanks for any light that you may be able to shed on this situation.

------------- the script that fails to run ------------

tell application "Finder"
        activate
        select startup disk
        open selection
        select file "Scriptable Text Editor" of folder "AppleScript=81
Utilities" of startup disk
        open selection
        close startup disk
end tell
tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
        activate
        close document 1 saving no
        (* Here's where this script fails, opening the file specified in
the line below.  The error message says:

        Scriptable Text Editor got an error:
        Can't make some data into the expected type.

        This is in spite of the fact that this is a recorded script which
compiles just fine! *)
        open file "Duo Dock HD:AppleScript=81 Utilities:Frontmost Release No=
tes"
        select text from paragraph 7 to paragraph 10 of document 1
        copy
        close document 1 saving no
        make new document at beginning
        paste
        select text from character 760 to character 880 of document 1
        copy
        make new document at beginning
        paste
        set selection to "
this is an example named \"untitled 3\""
        make new document at beginning
        set selection to "This is an example named \"untitled 4\"

"
        save document 1 in file "Duo Dock HD:Desktop Folder:Example 4"
        close document 1 saving no
        save document 1 in file "Duo Dock HD:Desktop Folder:Example 3"
        close document 1 saving no
        save document 1 in file "Duo Dock HD:Desktop Folder:Example 2"
        close document 1 saving no
        quit saving ask
end tell

*********************************************************************
Dr. Frank Lowney, Director, Regional Teacher Education Center
                  System Administrator, The GC EduNET Project
CBX 034, School of Education
Georgia College, Milledgeville, GA 31061-0490
Voice: [phone]
via GC EduNET, Georgia's Statewide K-12 Education Network, telnet to:
        gcedunet.peachnet.edu
*********************************************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 16:48:15 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Why does this recorded script fail?
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Frank Lowney" at Jul 12, 94 03:20:22 pm

--Frank Lowney wrote:
>
>tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
>      activate
>      close document 1 saving no
>      open file "Duo Dock HD:AppleScript=81 Utilities:Frontmost Release Notes"

    You should change this line to read: open alias "Duo Dock HD:..."
This should work for you better than open file. I'm not totally sure why
this works better but some applications prefer to work with alias
references rather than direct file references. STE seems to be one of
those applications.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:29:59 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Frontmost Info

Could someone point me to the company which sells Frontmost and FaceSpan?

Thanks  :)

~josh~
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 16:00:52 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript

>Would a modified OSA Menu really provide any functions that Frontier
>doesn't already provide with it's Finder menu and MenuSharing?

Yes, there would be two benefits:

1. It would work with other AE-aware apps that don't support menu sharing;

2. For those app as well as for the Finder, it would allow scripts to
execute in the same process as the target. This could potentially speed
things up a great deal, and would allow dialogs to come up in the same
layer (instead of Frontier's).

Doug
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 11:39:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript

"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> writes:

>>Would a modified OSA Menu really provide any functions that Frontier
>>doesn't already provide with it's Finder menu and MenuSharing?
>
>Yes:  it would permit an application-specific menu-based group of scripts
>for an application which doesn't support Frontier-based menu sharing, on a
>system whose user hasn't installed AppleScript.

Yes, but you'd still need the Component Manager. Not everybody has the
Component Manager built into their system...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:47:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Lee Buck & FaceSpan in DDJ

In this month's Dr. Dobbs Journal, Michael Swaine interviews Lee Buck,
author of FaceSpan.  There's some mildly interesting views of the future
expressed.  All in all, it's nice to see Macintosh discussions in the
"other" magazines.

Jon
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:47:07 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MACSCRPT Digest - 11 Jul 1994 to 12 Jul 1994

>From:    "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <[e-mail]>

>Yes, but you'd still need the Component Manager. Not everybody has the
>Component Manager built into their system...

AppleScript has version 1.5 built in.

>From:    Doug Baron <[e-mail]>

>2. For those app as well as for the Finder, it would allow scripts to
>execute in the same process as the target. This could potentially speed
>things up a great deal, and would allow dialogs to come up in the same
>layer (instead of Frontier's).

I'm not sure that this would speed things up too much.  What Leonard and I
were discussing is using the AESendProc to watch for events that the script
sends to the current process.  When you see one of these events, you change
the address to kAESendToSelf and send it.  This dispatches it directly to
the handler, bypassing the event loop.  This would also make the event
recordable, so it might be desirable to add kAEDontRecord to the send mode.
I haven't actually tried this to see if it works, I'm just thinking into
the electron stream, but I think I will try this with PhotoFlash and see if
it speeds up our script execution.

By the way, in AppleScript dialogs appear in whatever program's tell block
is active (this is also generally the front program).  Why does the
Frontier OSA component behave differently?

Finally, would you have to change the name of OSA Menu?  I guess not.  It
still runs OSA components.  It just wouldn't use the Generic component.

Jon
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 08:59:29 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Frontmost Info
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "[e-mail]" at Jul 12, 94 06:29:59 pm

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>Could someone point me to the company which sells Frontmost and FaceSpan?

    No problem, but it won't do you any good. FaceSpan is only available
from Apple as part of the AppleScript Scripter's Kit and the AppleScript
Software Developer's Kit. You can't get it directly from the company,
Software Designs Unlimited of Chapel Hill, NC.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 09:05:41 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Lee Hoong <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Frontmost Info

>Could someone point me to the company which sells Frontmost and FaceSpan?
>
>Thanks  :)
>
>~josh~


Software Designs Unlimited Inc.
1829 E Franklin St.
Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Voice: 515-224-1995
FAX: [phone]

Lee.

Lee K. Hoong
Emory University
Atlanta, GA 30322
Internet: [e-mail]
AOL: LHOONG
==========================
Opinions and comments expressed are mine; I do not represent Emory
University.
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 07:59:27 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Holden <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Launch AppleScript with Mosaic 2.0a2?

Hello!

We are doing some testing of standalone html documents using
open local.

We'd like to have Mosaic 2.0a2 launch an AppleScript.  I
have tried several approaches that have been unsuccessful.

For example, we have a help document that walks a user
throught the system folder.  I'd like them to be able
to click on a highlighted text and then have a
AppleScript executed that brings the Extensions folder
to the front.

Has anyone done this before?  Please email me if you have.

I know we could do something like this with the MacHTTP
server but I can't use the server in my configuration.

Thanks!

Steve

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=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 08:59:03 U
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Roy Rapoport <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Hey, wait a second!

Hey, wait a second!
Is there any way to tell AppleScript to wait a certain length of time? like,
say, C's sleep()?

-roy
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 13:23:38 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Dave Griffin, Ferris State University" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      MACSCRPT FAQ?
In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of THU 07 JUL 1994 12:13:54 EDT

Is there a FAQ available for this list; or can someone tell me
where to get more info on scripting?

I would like to look up as much info as possible before I start
asking questions on the list that may have already been
answered in prior posts...

Thanks for your time,


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Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:51:24 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Desmond K. Mullen" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Macintosh Consultant Job Opening at Notre Dame, Indiana, USA

Okay, I didn't scour the job posting, but I didn't see a salary range listed.

What's the salary range, Mike?

Thanks.

-DM

Desmond K. Mullen - University of Minnesota, Office of Admissions
[e-mail] - 612/625-0824 - Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:25:14 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Huey <[e-mail]>
Subject:      cancel

What command do I issue to log off of this mailing list and what is the
correct address. I have tried several things but none seem to work.
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:00:08 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Macintosh Consultant Job Opening at Notre Dame, Indiana, USA
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:51:24 MDT"

>Okay, I didn't scour the job posting, but I didn't see a salary range listed.
>
>What's the salary range, Mike?
>
>Thanks.

Ahem. Please confine these questions to private email. I didn't say anything
about the posting at the time, but I really don't want to wade through any
threads about jobs, the job market, salaries, ad infinitum. I'm curious
about--and ever watching--the Mac/network/programming job market, but I check
in misc.jobs.contract and misc.jobs.offered newsgroups. Remember, this mailing
list is devoted to questions about scripting applications.

Please indulge me on this.

pf


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fred Terry, The Alta Group, [e-mail], +1 913/841-1283
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:36:08 U
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Roy Rapoport <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AS 1.1

AS 1.1
I seem to remember that there was an upgrade from AppleScript v 1.0 to
AppleScript v 1.1 available somewhere on the network.  Anybody got a pointer?

-roy
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 17:02:14 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Huey <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS 1.1
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 13 Jul 1994, Roy Rapoport wrote:

> AS 1.1
> I seem to remember that there was an upgrade from AppleScript v 1.0 to
> AppleScript v 1.1 available somewhere on the network.  Anybody got a pointer?
>
> -roy
>
I believe I found it in a communications section, the app that it comes
with is called MacHTTP or something similar, it also includes some things
for the PowerPC and Applescript.
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:13:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Making Frontier wait for KeyQuencer

I'm trying to automate a job which requires altering Eudora's In box file.
Before doing this, I wanted to have Eudora compact its mailboxes.
KeyQuencer.doScript (string) just sends the AppleEvent to KQ AppleEvents
which is running in the background. If I execute the following code from
OSA Menu, I hear the speaker beep before the compacting starts, which is
what I expect; Frontier is just sending the events and then going on.

on testScript () {
    bundle { =ABCompact the mailboxes
        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Menu "Special" "Compact Mailboxes"=B2);
        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Wait 1 seconds=B2); =ABLet it start
        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3WaitWindow "In" open=B2);
        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Click closebox=B2);
        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3WaitWindow "In" close=B2);
        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3SwitchApp "Frontier" partial=B2)};
    speaker.beep ();
    return (true)};

testScript ()

if I insert, before the speaker.beep (), the fragment

    while not (sys.frontmostApp () contains "Frontier")
        sys.systemTask () =AB or clock.waitSeconds (1); it doesn't matter

my system will hang. If I just insert clock.waitSeconds (10) instead, the
system will wait 10 seconds, then I'll hear the beep, and *then* Eudora
will begin compacting the mailboxes. It appears that I'm having trouble
getting Frontier to relinquish the system. Since I'm running under OSA
Menu, Eudora is in front when all this starts. Thanks in advance.

        David

David Lewis     Seagate Technology      [phone]  [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 17:23:35 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Frontier: controlling menubar objects

I am trying to add a menu of frequently-accessed files and
folders to the Finder using Frontier and the FinderMenus
extension.  The problem I can't seem to get around is Frontier's
limited control over menubar objects.  I have a table of folders
that I want to appear in a "Frequent" menu.  I want to be able
to modify the table and have the Frequent menu rebuilt on the
fly to reflect my changes.  An agent will do the menu rebuilding,
but I need some way to completely flush the existing Frequent
menu before building the new one, and therein lies the problem.
The Frequent menu is contained within FinderMenus' fMNU menubar.
Frontier has a number of commands dealing with menu *items*,
(menu.addMenuCommand, menu.deleteMenuCommand, menu.addSubMenu, etc.)
but nothing that would allow me to delete the whole Frequent *menu*
so I can rebuild it with the new information.

Any workarounds?  I hope I made my problem clear...

-David.
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 21:25:04 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Borre Ludvigsen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Filtering funny characters

I have a script that receives strings from 4 forms fields from MacHTTP=20
and writes them to a file. Only if I get characters like }|{" which=20
sometimes are used in Norwegian, I get an error message back to Mosaic.=20
It's killing me, I can't return the error message file I want, and I'm=20
having problems packing in the funny characters in the right clothes so=20
that they too are written to the file. I also want to get rid of the =3D an=
d +=20
characters.

Anyone have any advice? Try:=20

       http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no/paamelding/paamelding.html

The script itself is attached.

Hopefully -=20

- Barre




set crlf to (ASCII character 13) & (ASCII character 10)

set http_10_header to "HTTP/1.0 200 OK" & crlf & "Server: MacHTTP" & crlf &=
 =C2
=09"MIME-Version: 1.0" & crlf & "Content-type: text/html" & crlf & crlf

set redirect_head to "HTTP/1.0 302 Found" & crlf & "Location: http://www.lu=
dvigsen.dhhalden.no/paamelding/"

set textDelimiterOrig to AppleScript's text item delimiters
try
=09set theList to {}
=09set theOrig to http_search_args
=09set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {"&"}
=09set myTmpList to the text items of theOrig
=09set chr20 to " "
=09set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {"=3D"}
=09--set AppleScript's text item delimiters to space
=09set timeStamp to (current date)
=09set x to 1
=09repeat (number of items of myTmpList) times
=09=09log item 1 of myTmpList
=09=09set theText to text item 2 of item x of myTmpList
=09=09set theList to {theText} & "<p>" & theList
=09=09set x to x + 1
=09end repeat
=09
set theList to the reverse of theList
on error
=09set AppleScript's text item delimiters to textDelimiterOrig

end try

set theFile to "Macintosh HD:Desktop Folder:WEB-Server:MacHTTP Software:paa=
melding:paameldte.html"
set postFile to "Macintosh HD:Desktop Folder:WEB-Server:MacHTTP Software:pa=
amelding:melding.html"


open for access file theFile with write permission
write "<pre>" & "<a name=3D\"" & timeStamp & "\">" & timeStamp & "</a>" & "=
<p>" & theList & "</pre>" & "<hr>" to file theFile starting at eof
close access file theFile


open for access file postFile with write permission
write "<HR>" & "Takk for påmeldingen! Din melding er lagt til <a href=
=3D\"paameldte.html#" & timeStamp & "\">en liste</a> for behandling idag " =
& timeStamp & "<p>" & "Din påmeldingen vil bli bekreftet pr. email s&=
aring; snart som mulig." & "<p>"
 & "<a href=3D\"../uninett94.html\">Tilbake</a> til hovedsiden." & "<HR>" &=
 "<p>" & "[e-mail]" to file postFile
close access file postFile

set AppleScript's text item delimiters to textDelimiterOrig

return redirect_head & "paameldte.html"
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 17:36:47 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Abner Dumoff <[e-mail]>
Subject:      FaceSpan error codes
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

I appreciate to some degree the inclusion of error codes in the docs
Apple supplied with AppleScript. Why weren't any included with the
manual for FaceSpan, "Building Interfaces"? Does anybody have a lit with
descriptions? Would it be of any use?

One more question, Perhaps this has been asked before: Is there any
additional documentation for FaceSpan?

P.S. After buying the Danny Goodman book, I ordered the disk upgrade,
primarily because it included FrontMost. It wasn't until it arrived, that
I discovered it was only a runtime version - No new interface creation
capabilities. That was a drag. After that the complete kit from Apple was a
worthwhile purchase, IMHO.

-AbbyD
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 19:00:45 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: (2) Frontmost Info

>>Could someone point me to the company which sells Frontmost and FaceSpan?

>    No problem, but it won't do you any good. FaceSpan is only available
>from Apple as part of the AppleScript Scripter's Kit and the AppleScript
>Software Developer's Kit. You can't get it directly from the company,
>Software Designs Unlimited of Chapel Hill, NC.

Will it come with the applescript on the powermac I'm gonna buy next month?

Thanks :)

~josh~
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 16:18:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MACSCRPT Digest - 11 Jul 1994 to 12 Jul 1994

>>From:    Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
>
>>2. For those app as well as for the Finder, it would allow scripts to
>>execute in the same process as the target. This could potentially speed
>>things up a great deal, and would allow dialogs to come up in the same
>>layer (instead of Frontier's).
>
>I'm not sure that this would speed things up too much.  What Leonard and I
>were discussing is using the AESendProc to watch for events that the script
>sends to the current process.  When you see one of these events, you change
>the address to kAESendToSelf and send it.  This dispatches it directly to
>the handler, bypassing the event loop.  This would also make the event
>recordable, so it might be desirable to add kAEDontRecord to the send mode.
>I haven't actually tried this to see if it works, I'm just thinking into
>the electron stream, but I think I will try this with PhotoFlash and see if
>it speeds up our script execution.
>
>By the way, in AppleScript dialogs appear in whatever program's tell block
>is active (this is also generally the front program).  Why does the
>Frontier OSA component behave differently?
>
>Finally, would you have to change the name of OSA Menu?  I guess not.  It
>still runs OSA components.  It just wouldn't use the Generic component.
>

Jon,

With Frontier scripts, there would be no need to hook into the sendProc and
change the address of outgoing events. Frontier notices when it's sending
an event to the current process and uses kAESendToSelf addressing when
appropriate. That's why I said that scripts would run much faster if
executed in the same process as the target. The performance gain would be
automatic.

Frontier dialogs appear in the layer of the process that is executing the
script. Frontier doesn't have the notion of a "tell" block; the "with"
statement is similar, but there is no "current" target application per se.
Dialogs are implemented with built-in verbs that are not related to any
appleEvent connection.

Note, however, that as long as the Display Dialog osax is installed, it can
be called from a UserTalk script. The dialogs that _it_ puts up would
appear in the target application's layer. You know how it works.  ;->

You anwered your own final question. Bypassing the Generic component would
in no way lessen OSA Menu's OSA-ness. It would still be completely general.

Doug
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 16:19:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Frontier: controlling menubar objects

>I am trying to add a menu of frequently-accessed files and
>folders to the Finder using Frontier and the FinderMenus
>extension.  The problem I can't seem to get around is Frontier's
>limited control over menubar objects.  I have a table of folders
>that I want to appear in a "Frequent" menu.  I want to be able
>to modify the table and have the Frequent menu rebuilt on the
>fly to reflect my changes.  An agent will do the menu rebuilding,
>but I need some way to completely flush the existing Frequent
>menu before building the new one, and therein lies the problem.
>The Frequent menu is contained within FinderMenus' fMNU menubar.
>Frontier has a number of commands dealing with menu *items*,
>(menu.addMenuCommand, menu.deleteMenuCommand, menu.addSubMenu, etc.)
>but nothing that would allow me to delete the whole Frequent *menu*
>so I can rebuild it with the new information.
>
>Any workarounds?  I hope I made my problem clear...
>

David,

No, the  problem isn't clear to me. What's wrong with menu.deleteSubMenu?
It will delete an entire menu heirarchy. You could then build it anew. Or,
if the problem is that you want to update the submenu in place, you can
build the new version and then call menu.addSubMenu. Frontier will notice
that the menu names match and will replace the old version. There shouldn't
be any problem maintaining the "Frequent" menu as you described.

Doug
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 16:19:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Making Frontier wait for KeyQuencer

>I'm trying to automate a job which requires altering Eudora's In box file.
>Before doing this, I wanted to have Eudora compact its mailboxes.
>KeyQuencer.doScript (string) just sends the AppleEvent to KQ AppleEvents
>which is running in the background. If I execute the following code from
>OSA Menu, I hear the speaker beep before the compacting starts, which is
>what I expect; Frontier is just sending the events and then going on.
>
>on testScript () {
>    bundle { =ABCompact the mailboxes
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Menu "Special" "Compact Mailboxes"=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Wait 1 seconds=B2); =ABLet it start
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3WaitWindow "In" open=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Click closebox=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3WaitWindow "In" close=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3SwitchApp "Frontier" partial=B2)};
>    speaker.beep ();
>    return (true)};
>
>testScript ()
>
>if I insert, before the speaker.beep (), the fragment
>
>    while not (sys.frontmostApp () contains "Frontier")
>        sys.systemTask () =AB or clock.waitSeconds (1); it doesn't matter
>
>my system will hang. If I just insert clock.waitSeconds (10) instead, the
>system will wait 10 seconds, then I'll hear the beep, and *then* Eudora
>will begin compacting the mailboxes. It appears that I'm having trouble
>getting Frontier to relinquish the system. Since I'm running under OSA
>Menu, Eudora is in front when all this starts. Thanks in advance.
>

David,

The trouble is specific to running the script under OSA Menu. It doesn't
(can't?) provide the appropriate callback routines for reliably handling
background events while executing an OSA script (i.e. an IdleProc and an
EventFilter). The basically turns calls like sys.systemTask and
clock.waitSeconds into noops.

One way to work around this is to save the script as a desktop script, and
then call it from your OSA menu using FileMenu.open:

    FileMenu.open ("path:to:real:script")

This will allow Frontier to run the script in it's own layer, and it will
work as you'd expect.

Doug

p.s. Leonard: would it be possible to provide these callbacks in the next
release? It would help a lot.
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 17:07:13 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Making Frontier wait for KeyQuencer

>David,
>
>The trouble is specific to running the script under OSA Menu. It doesn't
>(can't?) provide the appropriate callback routines for reliably handling
>background events while executing an OSA script (i.e. an IdleProc and an
>EventFilter). The basically turns calls like sys.systemTask and
>clock.waitSeconds into noops.
>
>One way to work around this is to save the script as a desktop script, and
>then call it from your OSA menu using FileMenu.open:
>
>    FileMenu.open ("path:to:real:script")
>
>This will allow Frontier to run the script in it's own layer, and it will
>work as you'd expect.
>
>Doug
>
>p.s. Leonard: would it be possible to provide these callbacks in the next
>release? It would help a lot.

Thanks, Doug. It works like a charm.

        David

David Lewis     Seagate Technology      [phone]  [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 21:17:49 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      What's the maximum size of a string in applescript/frontmost

Like the question says...  what is it?

Anthony

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*                                                                       *
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*  "And if I say I wanna set you free,                                  *
*  "Don't you know you'll be in misery?                                 *
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*  Gene Simmons circa 1976                                              *
*                                                                       *
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=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 19:28:47 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: What's the maximum size of a string in applescript/frontmost

>Like the question says...  what is it?
>
How big is your memory?

  Seriously, available memory will be the limiting factor.  The fairly
small former limit to total size of an Apple event has been patched away
(there may be a new larger limit...I haven't encountered it).

   Every length field I have run across in the technology is 4 bytes
long...that doesn't mean I haven't missed a two-byte bottleneck somewhere.

Unless you are planning in terms of multi-page text, you should be OK.
Increasing partitions may become desirable at some point.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 19:55:35 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Dale L. Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      MACSCRPT

UNSUBSRIBE

*************************************************************
[e-mail] or [e-mail]

To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.
*************************************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 13 Jul 1994 23:04:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Frontier: controlling menubar objects

>David,
>
>No, the  problem isn't clear to me. What's wrong with menu.deleteSubMenu?
>It will delete an entire menu heirarchy. You could then build it anew. Or,
>if the problem is that you want to update the submenu in place, you can
>build the new version and then call menu.addSubMenu. Frontier will notice
>that the menu names match and will replace the old version. There shouldn't
>be any problem maintaining the "Frequent" menu as you described.
>
>Doug


Doug:

Yes, thank you.  I was mistaken, and I caught it about two minutes
after I sent that message.  I assumed that addSubMenu did just that --
added *submenus* (you know, like hierarchical ones), whereas I wanted
to add a *menu*.  Dumb mistake.

-David.
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:47:44 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: cancel

_______________________________________________________________________________
> From: Macintosh Scripting Systems on 13 Jul, 1994 20:50
> Subject: cancel
> To: Multiple recipients of list MACSCRPT
>
> What command do I issue to log off of this mailing list and what is the
> correct address. I have tried several things but none seem to work.
>
(disclaimer: I'm not trying to flame you specifically, I think I'm presenting
good advice for all the people like you out there.)

I would just like to point out the obvious to people who are having trouble
getting off a list. I can understand someone being a bit unsure how to get on
one, but gettting off is different. With almost every listserver, after
subscribing you receive a message similar to this one:

>
> Dear networker,
>
>   Your subscription  to list  MACSCRPT (Macintosh  Scripting Systems)
> has been
> accepted.
>
>   You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF MACSCRPT"
> command to
> [e-mail] (or [e-mail]). Please
> note that
> this command  must NOT be sent  to the list address  (MACSCRPT@DARTCMS1)
> but to
> the LISTSERV address (LISTSERV@DARTCMS1).
>
>   The  amount of  acknowledgement  you  wish to  receive  from  this
> list  upon
> completion of a  mailing operation can be  changed by means of  a "SET
> MACSCRPT
> option" command,  where "option"  may be  either "ACK"  (mail
> acknowledgement),
> "MSGACK" (interactive messages only) or "NOACK".
>
>   Contributions sent to this list are  automatically archived. You can
> obtain a
> list of the  available archive files by sending an  "INDEX MACSCRPT"
> command to
> [e-mail] (or [e-mail]).  These
> files can
> then be retrieved by  means of a "GET MACSCRPT filetype"  command, or
> using the
> database search  facilities of  LISTSERV. Send an  "INFO DATABASE"
> command for
> more information on the latter.
>
>   Please note that  it is presently possible for anybody  to determine
> that you
> are  signed up  to the  list through  the use  of the  "REVIEW" command,
>  which
> returns the network address and name of all the subscribers. If you do
> not wish
> your name to be available to others in this fashion, just issue a "SET
> MACSCRPT
> CONCEAL" command.
>
>   More information on LISTSERV commands can  be found in the LISTSERV
> reference
> card,  which  you  can  retrieve  by  sending  an  "INFO  REFCARD"
> command  to
> [e-mail] (or [e-mail]).
>
> Virtually,
>
>    The LISTSERV management

When you get these things, file them away in a folder called Mailing Lists or
whatever pleases you, and then you'll always know how to de-subscribe, and not
have to embarrass yourself with these broadcast messages, nor clutter other
people's mailboxes.

-wayne
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 08:00:39 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kiran Wagle <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Apple's scripting packages

Can someone tell me what's in the different AppleScript packages that Apple
sells?  Or can you point me at a FAQ that could answer such questions?

Clueless as ever,

~ Kiran <[e-mail]>

--
6216 41st Avenue Hyattsville MD 20782 301/779-0756 <[e-mail]>
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 14:45:16 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jean Berthomieu <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS 1.1
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Roy
              Rapoport" at Jul 13, 94 12:36:08 pm

>
> AS 1.1
> I seem to remember that there was an upgrade from AppleScript v 1.0 to
> AppleScript v 1.1 available somewhere on the network.  Anybody got a pointer?
>
> -roy
>

 Yes! AppleScript 1.1 is part of the PlainTalk Package for PowerMacs.

 You can gopher it from info.hed.apple.com, somewhere in :
 /Apple Support Area
   /Apple.Software.Updates
     /Supplemental.System.SW
       /PlainTalk.for.PowerMac

                             PlainTalk.for.PowerMac

 -->  1.  About.PlainTalk.User.Guide.txt.
      2.  PlainTalk.User.Guide.sea.hqx <HQX>
      3.  PlainTalk1.sea.hqx <HQX>
      4.  PlainTalk2.sea.hqx <HQX>
      5.  PlainTalk3.sea.hqx <HQX>
      6.  PlainTalk4.sea.hqx <HQX>
      7.  PlainTalk5.sea.hqx <HQX>
      8.  ReadMe-PlainTalk.for.Pwr.Mac.txt.
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:07:19 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Peter 'Happy' Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS 1.1
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Jean Berthomieu"
              at Jul 14, 94 02:45:16 pm

Does that mean only PowerMac users can use it?

--Pete
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:41:48 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: (2) Frontmost Info
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "[e-mail]" at Jul 13, 94 07:00:45 pm

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>Will it come with the applescript on the powermac I'm gonna buy next month?

    Ok, here the way this could work... First of all, if you get a Power
Mac that's been on the shelf for a couple of weeks, the definite answer
is no. The AppleScript 1.1 extensions should be included, but that's
it. If it's a brand new Power Mac from Apple, and System 7.5 has
shipped, and Apple has bundled it with the current Power Macs, then
there is a possibility that the AppleScript set-up that comes with 7.5
could have the FaceSpan environment included. Sound doubtful? Good,
because it's currently very doubtful.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 09:43:52 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS 1.1
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Peter 'Happy' Thomas" at Jul 14, 94 09:07:19 am

--Peter 'Happy' Thomas wrote:
>
>Does that mean only PowerMac users can use it?

    What it means is only non-Av Power Mac owners are supposed to
download the disk images. Since Apple doesn't put any restrictions on
who can download from their internet sites this is pretty much up for
grabs. There is, however, no documentation whatsoever included with this
installation.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:05:40 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nathaniel Comfort at Cold Spring Harbor Lab <[e-mail]>
Subject:      FMPro:changing layout on the fly

Greetings--
I am just getting started with AS and don't even know enough to tell if
this is trivial or impossible. I wanted to write a script that watched the
contents of a FileMaker Pro field and automatically switched to the
appropriate layout. It's a database of the contents of a newsletter, which
has different departments depending on which issue it is (e.g., Spring
issue has one set of departments, Summer issue has another).

I have gotten as far as something that will look at the current record and
switch to the right layout when I run the script (e.g., from OSA menu), but
I'd like it to run automatically, to be lurking in the background, waiting
with bated breath for me to change records, and then spring into action.

Thanks for any help or suggestions,
Nathaniel Comfort
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 07:48:40 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Greg Francis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Opening a DA from AppleScript?

How can I open a DA using AppleScript?

Thanks,

Greg Francis
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:14:13 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy J. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      MS: Monthly Harrange

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=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:16:05 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Burke <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Eudora Sorting Scripts

I've been following this list since late May.  I've seen several people
discuss their eudora scripts and in some cases include portions of them.
If possible I would like to get a copy of the complete/completed scripts.
I am looking into purchasing Eudora 2.0, but wont be able to for several
months.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

-Kevin
[e-mail]
Coordinator of Networks & Users Services
Maple Woods Community College
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:29:03 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian C. Forney" <umich.edu@?C~.BITNET>
Subject:      Anarchie 1.21 & AppleScript problem

I'm trying to script Anarchie 1.21. I'd like to use the store command to put a
file to a remote computer, but the below script is giving me some data type
problems.

on open myFile
        --set up the ftp info
        set destinationSite to "copper.engin.umich.edu"
        set userName to "bforney"
        set userPassword to text returned of ?
                (display dialog "Please enter your password:" default answer "")
        set sendFile to myFile as string -- turn file into a string

        tell application "Anarchie"
                activate
                store host destinationSite path "~" name sendFile user userName
password
userPassword
        end tell
end open

The script seems to die on the store command with an error "Can't make some data
into the expected type." All of the parameters for the store command should be
strings, but I can't figure out why they aren't passed as strings. (I have
changed the set statements to include "as string" but this doesn't help.)

Brian Forney
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:41:37 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Eudora Sorting Scripts
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:16:05 CDT"

>I've been following this list since late May.  I've seen several people
>discuss their eudora scripts and in some cases include portions of them.
>If possible I would like to get a copy of the complete/completed scripts.
>I am looking into purchasing Eudora 2.0, but wont be able to for several
>months.
>

I've seen several other requests likec Kevin's and received a couple of direct
requests for scripts, so I'd like to make a suggestion.

If you are interested in sharing your scripts and wouldn't mind placing them
on gaea, consider doing a few things and then drop them in the incoming
directory.

        *save them in text format
        *place your name at the top of the script so you get proper credit
        *include any copyright info or distribution restrictions
        *include a list of osaxen used by the script and the version numbers
        *whatever else I haven't thought of

Most importantly, if you place something in the incoming directory, be sure to
let me know that it's there as well as what it is.

Thanks.

pf


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fred Terry, The Alta Group, [e-mail], +1 913/841-1283
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 12:38:41 EST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS 1.1

>Does that mean only PowerMac users can use it?

No, I'm using it on my Q650. In order to also get the new version of the
Script Editor which is included on disk 2 you will need to run a full
install including the speech stuff that you probably won't be able to use.

Klaus

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 10:47:31 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Checking for the Existence of a Disk

I'm using AppleScript together with Finder Liaison 1.1 to copy something
from a remote disk onto a local disk.  My problem is simple: I need either
A) a way to find whether the remote disk in question is mounted on the desktop
or
B) a way to mount eh remote disk (Gosh, how about "mount disk X of machine
Y as user Z with password foobar"? :) )

Any suggestions?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 14:23:30 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Anarchie 1.21 & AppleScript problem
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Brian C. Forney" at Jul 14, 94 10:29:03 am

--Brian C. Forney wrote:
>
>I'm trying to script Anarchie 1.21. I'd like to use the store command to put a
>file to a remote computer, but the below script is giving me some data type
>problems.

    I've found that Anarchie does quite well with AppleScript, although
there is a bit of a learning curve. The sample scripts that Peter N.
Lewis supplies with Anarchie are very helpful in this respect.

>on open myFile
>    --set up the ftp info
>    set destinationSite to "copper.engin.umich.edu"
>    set userName to "bforney"
>    set userPassword to text returned of ?
>            (display dialog "Please enter your password:" default answer "")
>    set sendFile to myFile as string -- turn file into a string
>
>    tell application "Anarchie"
>            activate
>            store host destinationSite path "~" name sendFile user userName ?
>                password userPassword
>        end tell
>end open
>
>The script seems to die on the store command with an error "Can't make
>some data into the expected type." All of the parameters for the store
>command should be strings, but I can't figure out why they aren't passed
>as strings. (I have changed the set statements to include "as string"
>but this doesn't help.)

    Well, the first thing I would do is drop the 'path "~"' part of this
command, because this could be causing the problem, I really don't know
for sure. I do know that this part of the command is unecessarily
redundant when you are ftping to a Unix host since the default directory
of a private account is "~". It is also redundant if you are supplying
the file name in the 'name sendFile' part of the command.
    You will want to either drop the path "~" and just use the name
sendFile or you should drop the name sendFile and supply a full pathname
for the file being stored. You can also do what I do most of the time
and contruct a URL out of the various parts and just supply the URL to
the store command.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:30:28 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Path To Me

Is there any way for an Applescript script to find where it's
located?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 13:37:54 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript Finder Guide

For those who have the scriptable Finder through a source other than APDA, you
can get the AppleScript Finder Guide ($19.95, 176 pp., ISBN 0-201-40910-0)
directly from Addison-Wesley (800.824.7799).

Remember, an additional 5.00 bucks get you a disk with the Finder and the
extensions when you order it from APDA.

pf
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:55:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Checking for the Existence of a Disk

>I'm using AppleScript together with Finder Liaison 1.1 to copy something
>from a remote disk onto a local disk.  My problem is simple: I need either
>A) a way to find whether the remote disk in question is mounted on the desk=
top

With the scriptable finder (the panacea!)

tell application "Finder"
        if disk "Berserker Base" exists then ... -- or
        if exists disk "Berserker Base" then ...
end tell

>B) a way to mount eh remote disk (Gosh, how about "mount disk X of machine
>Y as user Z with password foobar"? :) )

Use the Finder to open an alias to the volume (I know this is a wimpy way ou=
t).

There is a MountVol OSAX someplace on gaea.

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Calling a script from an application (1)
Tue Jun 28 16:37:51 1994
1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.18 Sending [e-mail], Re: FW: 2 die seeing E.C..
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Day Class 15A?! (1)
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text window in Eudora (1)
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Manager (1)
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Superkeyer II from Idiom Press ? (1)
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Manager take 2 (1)
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kAENoUserInteraction (or whatever it's called... (1)
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6/28/9=E4,Scripting Eudora through a firewall? (1)
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Manager (1)
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Class 15A?! (1)
2:0.59.59 Successfully received Kevin Purcell,11:44 AM 6/28/9=E4,Re: Field
Day Class 15A?! (1)
2:1.2.28 Successfully received Sandro Menzel,12:08 PM 6/28/9=E4,Re: I need
Cherie Nickell's phone number (1)
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How
to use a text window in Eudora (1)
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Scripter (1)
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Wed Jun 29 08:55:02 1994
1:0.0.4 halcyon.com 25
1:0.17.27 Sending John F. Woods, Re: Field Day Class 15A?!.
1:0.42.58 Succeeded.
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1:0.52.32 Succeeded.
2:0.56.31 halcyon.com 110 (23)
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s
this an AppleScript bug? (1)
2:1.2.32 Successfully received [e-mail]=E4, 6:47 PM 6/28/9=E4,QRP =
FD
in Raleigh NC (1)
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AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners! (1)
2:1.34.45 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=E4, 6:33 PM
6/28/9=E4,Info-Mac Digest V12 #91 1/4 (4)
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error -610 (1)
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disappointment (1)
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disappointment (1)
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2:1.48.42 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,11:36 PM 6/28/9=E4,Where ar=
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this an AppleScript bug? (1)
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-610 (1)
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Cherie Nickell's phone number (1)
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II from Idiom Press ? (1)
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Analyzing checkboxes (1)
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number/string conversion UCMD (1)
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disappointment (1)
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archives...via gopher (1)
Wed Jun 29 09:15:43 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.21 Sending dBug-SIG, SIG Meeting on **June 30th**.
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y
Class 15A?! (1)
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1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
1:0.3.5 Sending John F. Woods, Re: Field Day Class 15A?!.
1:0.21.10 Succeeded.
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n
page breaking- solutions (1)
2:0.47.50 Successfully received Chris Colebank, 9:26 AM 6/29/9=E4,copying
files to Novell vol (1)
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n
page breaking? (1)
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order (1)
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Labs Phone Number? (1)
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"MACSCRPT" (1)
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Scriptor or scripter? (1)
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Scriptor or scripter? (1)
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ClarisWorks upgrade disintegrated aete resource (1)
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Scriptor or scripter? (1)
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it Scriptor or scripter? (1)
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Sound July Meeting Reminder (1)
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Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
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question (1)
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question (1)
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6/29/9=E4,Subclassing under SOM (1)
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Pathnames in AppleScript (1)
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Pathnames in AppleScript (1)
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Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
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the Mac (1)
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disappointment (1)
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Manager take 2 (1)
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script to wait... (1)
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Event Manager take 2 (1)
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Scriptor or scripter? (1)
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from TX (1)
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friedrichshafen (1)
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2:0.11.54 Successfully received Bruce Walker, 1:45 PM 6/30/9=E4,more
administrivia (1)
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disappointment (1)
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in Preview with script (1)
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n
page breaking? (1)
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with nonscriptable applic. (1)
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Preview with script (1)
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distribution (1)
2:0.40.31 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 2:19 PM 6/30/9=E4,Frontier
3.0.x string.popLeading () (1)
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Analyzing Checkboxes part two (1)
2:0.46.22 Successfully received Jamie Lawrence, 2:45 PM 6/30/9=E4,Address &
number for UseLand? (1)
2:0.48.57 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=E4, 9:47 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re:
Event Manager take 2 (1)
2:0.51.12 Successfully received Fred Terry, 4:48 PM 6/30/9=E4,Re: Address &
number for UseLand? (1)
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Eudora 2.1 (1)
Thu Jun 30 15:48:04 1994
8:0.0.1 Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: File path, strings, aliass,
=46sSpecs, etc
8:0.0.1 ALRT 1010
8:0.3.52 Dismissed with 1.
8:0.4.17 Martina Lauchengco, Re: MacWord beta
8:0.4.17 ALRT 1010
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Tue Jul 05 11:23:49 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (126)
2:0.2.23 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:39 PM 6/30/9=E4,Re: OPF
and Metrowerkers (1)
2:0.5.26 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:44 PM 6/30/9=E4,Re: Address &
number for UseLand? (1)
2:0.11.50 Successfully received Steve Martin, 9:58 PM 6/30/9=E4,Re: Everyday
AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners! (1)
2:0.14.32 Successfully received Tom Kerns, 9:08 PM 6/30/9=E4,Re: Software fo=
r
the Mac (1)
2:0.16.55 Successfully received Tim Bertram,10:34 AM 6/30/9=E4,Re: SIG
Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
2:0.19.52 Successfully received Clark Savage Turne=E4, 8:27 PM 6/30/9=E4,Ten
Tec PTO adjustment (1)
2:0.22.27 Successfully received Clark Savage Turne=E4, 8:41 PM 6/30/9=E4,Nor=
Cal
40 backpacking (1)
2:0.25.36 Successfully received Nick Arnett,10:20 PM 6/30/9=E4,Index &
full-text archive of these lists (1)
2:0.28.9 Successfully received Tero Loimuneva, 9:09 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: Folder
Trash Not Found Error (1)
2:0.30.46 Successfully received John W. Baxter,11:47 PM 6/30/9=E4,Re: Addres=
s
& number for UseLand? (1)
2:0.33.16 Successfully received Clark Savage Turne=E4,12:24 AM 7/1/94=E4,Hap=
py
"G5RV" antenna change (1)
2:0.38.30 Successfully received Barry Chern, 4:53 AM 7/1/94=E4,last word (1)
2:0.41.13 Successfully received [e-mail], 6:41 AM 7/1/94=E4,Field Da=
y
Results (1)
2:0.43.52 Successfully received Todd Hooper, 8:57 PM 7/1/94=E4,ScriptLink (1=
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2:0.47.0 Successfully received David Flory, 6:12 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: Stuck in
Preview with script (1)
2:0.51.52 Successfully received Mario Garcia, 8:42 AM 7/1/94=E4,help (1)
2:0.56.6 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:17 AM 7/1/94=E4,Tuners (1=
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Users--PSE Read (1)
2:1.32.59 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=E4, 7:01 AM
7/1/94=E4,Info-Mac Digest V12 #92 1/4 (4)
2:1.35.24 Successfully received JEFF M. GOLD, 8:09 AM 7/1/94=E4,LCK for sale=
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=46ield Day Results (1)
2:1.40.59 Successfully received Brad Mitchell, 9:43 AM 7/1/94=E4,Wanrted Ann
Landers of QRP help (1)
2:1.43.32 Successfully received Howard Freeman, 4:04 PM 7/1/94=E4,making dem=
o
versions (1)
2:1.47.5 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 1:27 AM 7/2/94=E4,Re: Analyzin=
g
checkboxes (1)
2:1.50.47 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 8:37 AM 7/1/94=E4,Thanks
for the checkbox analysis (1)
2:1.54.38 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 2:03 AM 7/2/94=E4,Re: making
demo versions (1)
2:1.58.22 Successfully received Laurie Gelb,11:11 AM 7/1/94=E4,None (1)
2:2.0.55 Successfully received JEFF M. GOLD, 9:35 AM 7/1/94=E4,lck, sold (1)
2:2.4.55 Successfully received Randall Rhea, 9:34 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: Wanrted
Ann Landers of QRP help (1)
2:2.7.32 Successfully received stark, 7:38 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: Field Day=
 Results (1)
2:2.10.6 Successfully received Brian Cieslak, 9:54 AM 7/1/94=E4,QRP Homebrew
Contest (1)
2:2.12.58 Successfully received stark, 7:41 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: Wanrted Ann
Landers of QRP help (1)
2:2.16.28 Successfully received stark, 7:35 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: LCK for sale (1=
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2:2.20.3 Successfully received John F. Woods,11:22 AM 7/1/94=E4,Not Field Da=
y
Results (1)
2:2.22.26 Successfully received Brad Mitchell,11:46 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: QRP
Homebrew Contest (1)
2:2.26.52 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:18 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: last
word (1)
2:2.29.25 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=E4, 9:15 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re:
lck, sold (1)
2:2.31.54 Successfully received Brian Cieslak,11:46 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re:QRP
Hombrew Contest (1)
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error -610 (1)
2:2.38.49 Successfully received Brian C. Forney, 1:42 PM 7/1/94=E4,Re:
ScriptLink (1)
2:2.41.30 Successfully received John W. Baxter,11:51 AM 7/1/94=E4,Graphing
Calculator (1)
2:2.44.4 Successfully received Kristinn Andersen, 6:02 PM
7/1/94=E4,schematics + PCB software? (1)
2:2.46.44 Successfully received stark,11:12 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: Not Field Day
Results (1)
2:2.52.40 Successfully received Andy J. Williams, 3:18 PM 7/1/94=E4,Re: help=
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2:2.55.39 Successfully received Dario Lopez K=94sten, 9:18 PM
7/1/94=E4,Subscribe (1)
2:2.58.30 Successfully received Jason Titus, 3:47 PM 7/1/94=E4,Fwd:
Applescript Questions... (1)
2:3.1.3 Successfully received Brad Mitchell, 2:46 PM 7/1/94=E4,Wanted Ann
Landers of QRP help (1)
2:3.3.54 Successfully received Brian Cieslak, 2:08 PM 7/1/94=E4,Source of
Solar Panels (1)
2:3.7.5 Successfully received Rob Dewhirst, 3:45 PM 7/1/94=E4,Excel scripts =
(1)
2:3.11.55 Successfully received Jeffrey Herman, 9:51 AM 7/1/94=E4,Re: QRP
Homebrew Contest (1)
2:3.15.40 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 3:46 PM 7/1/94=E4,Re: Fwd:
Applescript Questions... (1)
2:3.21.39 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:33 PM 7/1/94=E4,R2/T2
pricing/order info (1)
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7/1/94=E4,Distribution list (1)
2:3.30.31 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:24 PM 7/1/94=E4,St. Louis
& Okla. QRP Club Address?? (1)
2:3.34.49 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:24 PM 7/1/94=E4,R2/T2 Inf=
o
has been e-mailed (1)
2:3.42.29 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 6:15 PM 7/1/94=E4,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:3.47.33 Successfully received Steve Jones, 9:37 PM 7/1/94=E4,Re: making
demo versions (1)
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2:3.53.32 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=E4, 8:49 PM
7/1/94=E4,INETers on the air (1)
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py
"G5RV" antenna chan (1)
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Archives (1)
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g
demo versions (1)
2:4.22.54 Successfully received CLPLIST/MR. LANDFI=E4, 9:15 AM 7/2/94=E4,Re:
making demo versions (1)
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Old QRP Stories &c. (1)
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Stories &c. (1)
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Analyzing checkboxes (1)
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1)
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boards: Setback (1)
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question (1)
2:4.44.25 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 7:51 AM 7/3/94=E4,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:4.47.6 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 1:14 AM 7/4/94=E4,Re: Analyzin=
g
checkboxes (1)
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- Ham magazines/computers (1)
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the modem port. (1)
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Brag... (1)
2:5.8.43 Successfully received Mark Hadfield, 5:59 PM 7/3/94=E4,Re: Excel
scripts (1)
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working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
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P (1)
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and Z match (1)
2:5.24.38 Successfully received Rick Zabrodski, 8:52 PM 7/3/94=E4,Re: Happy
"G5RV" antenna chan (1)
2:5.27.28 Successfully received Barry Chern, 3:11 AM 7/4/94=E4,Re: Excel
scripts (via Digest) (1)
2:5.31.56 Successfully received Simon Jensen-Fello=E4,11:14 AM 7/4/94=E4,Re:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:5.36.53 Successfully received INRA000, 2:02 PM 7/4/94=E4,Re[2]: working
with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:5.39.41 Successfully received [e-mail].=E4, 9:43 AM
7/4/94=E4,Lucking out at the surplus store (1)
2:5.42.42 Successfully received Chuck Adams, 2:40 PM 7/4/94=E4,Re:  St. Loui=
s
& Okla. QRP Club Address?? (1)
2:5.48.28 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 3:21 PM 7/4/94=E4,QRP
library comments (1)
2:5.54.4 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 5:35 PM 7/4/94=E4,Re(2):
last word (1)
2:5.56.51 Successfully received [e-mail],10:25 PM 7/4/94=E4,OPF/OD
build problems on Q840A (1)
2:6.2.19 Successfully received George Dobbs G3RJV,12:19 AM
7/5/94=E4,Friedrichshafen Report (1)
2:6.6.45 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 5:52 PM 7/4/94=E4,Re: Re(2):
last word (1)
2:6.9.22 Successfully received Todd Hooper, 9:20 AM 7/5/94=E4,Scripting
=46ileMaker Pro (1)
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l
Meeting (1)
2:6.16.51 Successfully received Michael Stein     =E4, 4:43 PM 7/4/94=E4,LM3=
86
noise? (1)
2:6.19.21 Successfully received [e-mail],11:04 PM
7/4/94=E4,undelivered R2/T2 info (1)
2:6.21.54 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=E4,11:02 PM 7/4/94=E4,Re:
Happy "G5RV" antenna (1)
2:6.24.23 Successfully received Jeffrey Herman,10:12 PM 7/4/94=E4,State-wide
project (1)
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variable caps (1)
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applet properly (1)
2:6.33.52 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 8:49 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re(2):
Re(2): last word (1)
2:6.37.14 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 9:02 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:6.39.45 Successfully received Becky Williams, 7:54 AM 7/5/94=E4, (1)
2:6.42.41 Successfully received David Avery, 9:58 AM 7/5/94=E4,FilMaker
windows (1)
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7/5/94=E4,IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
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IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:6.52.11 Successfully received Rob Dewhirst,10:07 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re: Excel
scripts (via Digest) (1)
2:6.57.27 Successfully received Kee Nethery +1 510=E4, 8:00 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re:
Macromedia Director and AppleScript (1)
2:7.0.14 Successfully received David Flory, 7:37 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re:
IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:7.4.29 Successfully received Fred Terry,10:10 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re: Excel
scripts (via Digest) (1)
2:7.7.13 Successfully received Daniel R. Auchincl=E4,11:02 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re:
clean page breaking? (1)
2:7.9.55 Succe.14 Successfully received John Welch, 8:55 PM 7/5/94=E4,Re: How much i=
s
a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:0.36.59 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:06 AM 7/6/94=E4,Performance
comparisons (1)
2:0.39.34 Successfully received bruce.florip@amail=E4, 3:41 PM 7/5/94=E4,How
much is a Tek 2213 scope wor (1)
2:0.42.4 Successfully received Gary M Diana, 2:50 PM 7/5/94=E4,antenna
tuners, etc. (1)
2:0.44.46 Successfully received Grover Cleveland, 9:41 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re: More
Old QRP Stories &c. (1)
2:0.48.18 Successfully received [e-mail]=E4, 4:14 PM 7/5/94=E4,Nor=
cal
40 camping experience (1)
2:0.50.39 Successfully received John Welch, 8:55 PM 7/5/94=E4,Re: How much i=
s
a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:0.53.8 Successfully received CLPLIST/MR. LANDFI=E4, 7:59 PM 7/5/94=E4,Re:
IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:0.55.49 Successfully received anthony brown,10:30 PM 7/5/94=E4,scripting
control panels... (1)
2:0.58.21 Successfully received [e-mail]=E4, 4:14 PM 7/5/94=E4,Nor=
cal
40 camping experience (1)
2:1.0.56 Successfully received Data,11:35 PM 7/5/94=E4,Re: Kill Faceless
Processes (1)
2:1.8.13 Successfully received Data,12:57 AM 7/6/94=E4,Control Strip Modules
Archive Site (1)
2:1.10.43 Successfully received John Welch, 8:55 PM 7/5/94=E4,Re: How much i=
s
a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:1.13.59 Successfully received Chuck Adams, 1:55 AM 7/6/94=E4,QRP=
 AFIELD-1994 (1)
2:1.16.47 Successfully received Michael Stein     =E4,11:14 PM 7/5/94=E4,re:
LM386 noise? (more) (1)
2:1.19.56 Successfully received TOM,10:09 AM 7/6/94=E4,FmPro Templates (1)
2:1.34.11 Successfully received Adam C. Engst,10:32 PM
7/5/94=E4,TidBITS#233/04-Jul-94 1/2 (2)
2:1.36.48 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:50 AM 7/6/94=E4,Off (1)
2:1.39.18 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 6:03 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:1.41.42 Successfully received Mark J Schreiner, 8:03 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
=46ield Day Results (1)
2:1.44.19 Successfully received Michael S. Dooley, 8:28 AM 7/6/94=E4,Meeting
other QRPers (1)
2:1.46.50 Successfully received Timothy Scott,12:55 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re: FmPro
Templates (1)
2:1.49.12 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 1:34 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
Wed Jul 06 08:14:10 1994
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1:0.2.22 Sending I want more $2000/week administrators!
<[e-mail].E, Re: Toroid questions......
1:0.8.59 Succeeded.
1:0.12.43 Sending anthony brown, Re: scripting control panels....
1:0.20.46 Succeeded.
1:0.21.20 Sending Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: Folder Trash Not Found Er=
ror.
1:0.38.1 Succeeded.
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2:0.46.6 Successfully received James M Fitton +1 =E4, 1:48 PM
7/6/94=E4,QRP-AFIELD (1)
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ch
meeting (1)
2:0.52.9 Successfully received Daniel C Halbert,10:28 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re: QRP
library comments (1)
2:0.58.48 Successfully received Mark Alldritt, 8:34 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Debugging an applet properly (1)
2:1.1.28 Successfully received [e-mail],11:08 AM 7/6/94=E4,IOTA
Contest??? (1)
2:1.4.13 Successfully received Muenzler, Kevin,10:24 AM 7/6/94=E4,RE: LM386
noise? (1)
2:1.7.7 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 8:48 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
2:1.10.26 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=E4, 8:56 AM 7/6/94=E4,Tor=
oid
questions..... (1)
2:1.13.30 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=E4, 8:56 AM
7/6/94=E4,Performance comparisons (1)
2:1.16.13 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=E4, 8:56 AM
7/6/94=E4,antenna tuners, etc. (1)
2:1.19.54 Successfully received [e-mail].=E4, 8:55 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re:=
 LM
386 (1)
2:1.23.39 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=E4, 8:55 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
"Balanced" L Nets? (1)
Wed Jul 06 11:44:23 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (1)
2:0.9.30 Successfully received W. Daniel, 6:39 PM 7/6/94=E4,Keyer to mail (1=
)
Wed Jul 06 13:36:07 1994
2:0.0.4 halcyon.com 110 (9)
2:0.4.8 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=E4, 1:21 PM 7/6/94=E4,Recei=
ver
design (1)
2:0.6.44 Successfully received Kevin Purcell,10:47 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
2:0.9.26 Successfully received Data, 1:47 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Need real text
editor (1)
2:0.11.58 Successfully received 1.7f, 3:24 PM 7/6/94=E4,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.14.49 Successfully received Dr. Barrett Stridi=E4,10:26 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:0.17.17 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:18 AM 7/7/94=E4,Keyer (1)
2:0.21.54 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 3:50 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:0.27.16 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 1:28 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Tek 2213 =
(1)
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8:0.34.44 ALRT 1020
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8:1.26.12 That pesky MacTCP is acting up again.
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1:0.2.19 Sending W. Daniel, Re: Keyer.
1:0.24.28 Succeeded.
1:0.28.0 Sending [e-mail], Re: Tek 2213.
1:0.36.38 Succeeded.
2:0.42.3 halcyon.com 110 (9)
2:0.48.12 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=E4, 1:21 PM
7/6/94=E4,Receiver design (1)
2:0.52.50 Successfully received Kevin Purcell,10:47 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
2:0.56.39 Successfully received Data, 1:47 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Need real text
editor (1)
2:1.1.2 Successfully received 1.7f, 3:24 PM 7/6/94=E4,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:1.6.42 Successfully received Dr. Barrett Stridi=E4,10:26 AM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:1.11.3 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:18 AM 7/7/94=E4,Keyer (1)
2:1.13.44 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 3:50 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:1.22.39 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 1:28 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Tek 2213 =
(1)
2:1.29.25 Successfully received Jamie Lawrence, 1:04 PM 7/6/94=E4,wierd
variable substitution problem (1)
Wed Jul 06 13:55:08 1994
8:0.0.3 read
8:0.0.3 Trash
8:0.0.3 ALRT 1024
8:0.1.40 Dismissed with 1.
Wed Jul 06 16:06:31 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (10)
2:0.3.16 Successfully received Data, 4:44 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Need real text
editor (1)
2:0.5.48 Successfully received Neil McKenzie, 2:10 PM 7/6/94=E4,HP
Oscilloscope (was: Yard Sale) (1)
2:0.10.0 Successfully received [e-mail],12:39 PM 7/4/94=E4,Applescrip=
t
development kit (1)
2:0.13.5 Successfully received David Brown, 5:04 PM 7/6/94=E4,Applescripting
Serial Port (1)
2:0.16.0 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=E4, 9:36 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:0.19.46 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 2:53 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Oscilloscpope (1)
2:0.22.21 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol, 2:51 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Nee=
d
real text editor (1)
2:0.24.45 Successfully received Doug Hendricks, 1:26 PM 7/6/94=E4,PW Back
issues. (1)
2:0.30.41 Successfully received Neil Christie,10:59 PM 7/6/94=E4,How to paus=
e
in scripts (trying to script mail operations) (1)
2:0.33.56 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:15 PM 7/4/94=E4,Re:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
Wed Jul 06 16:15:17 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.28.31 Sending [e-mail], Re: Applescript development kit.
1:0.35.14 Succeeded.
Wed Jul 06 16:41:37 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (4)
2:0.4.49 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 4:16 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.7.34 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:18 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.10.9 Successfully received christopher edward=E4, 7:21 PM 7/6/94=E4,Exce=
l
Macros --> Turning blanks into "Blank" (1)
2:0.12.41 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:22 AM
7/7/94=E4,Scriptable Finder docs (1)
Wed Jul 06 16:45:14 1994
1:0.0.0 halcyon.com 25
1:0.26.21 Sending Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: Scriptable Finder docs.
1:0.32.0 Succeeded.
Thu Jul 07 08:27:13 1994
8:0.0.3 Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: wierd variable substitution problem
8:0.0.3 ALRT 1010
8:0.3.44 Dismissed with 1.
Thu Jul 07 08:44:11 1994
2:0.0.4 halcyon.com 110 (23)
2:0.2.32 Successfully received 1.7f, 7:47 PM 7/6/94=E4,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.5.0 Successfully received Chris Etesse, 8:39 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Excel
Macros --> Turning blanks into "Blank" (1)
2:0.9.48 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard,10:26 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Excel Macros --> Turning blanks into "Blank" (1)
2:0.12.7 Successfully received Jeff Jones, 5:31 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: LM 386 (1)
2:0.15.28 Successfully received Mark Duffield,10:07 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:0.18.25 Successfully received Mike Cohen, 6:42 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Applescrip=
t
development kit (1)
2:0.21.49 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=E4, 2:18 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:0.24.23 Successfully received Boris Levitin,10:29 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Debugging an applet properly (1)
2:0.27.29 Successfully received Rich Coulombre, 8:36 AM 7/5/94=E4,Re: Thanks
for the checkbox analysis (1)
2:0.30.24 Successfully received Malcolm Pradhan, 8:10 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:0.32.47 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=E4, 3:16 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.41.34 Successfully received Christopher Allen, 5:42 PM 7/6/94=E4,UPDATE:
Everyday AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners (1)
2:0.45.47 Successfully received INRA000,11:54 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re[2]: working
with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:0.48.13 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:05 PM 7/6/94=E4,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.50.57 Successfully received W. Daniel,12:48 PM 7/7/94=E4,Mini Keyer (1)
2:0.54.56 Successfully received James Jennings, 2:02 AM 7/7/94=E4,SW
Developer's Workshop, July 9, 1994 (1)
2:0.59.1 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 8:48 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re(2):
Need real text editor (1)
2:1.2.56 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:10 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re: wierd
variable substitution problem (1)
2:1.5.59 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:12 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Scriptable Finder docs (1)
2:1.9.13 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:14 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:1.12.23 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:28 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Scripting FileMaker Pro (1)
2:1.15.4 Successfully received Frank Lowney, 9:39 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Applescripting Serial Port (1)
2:1.17.21 Successfully received Justin Rains, 7:08 AM 7/7/94=E4,For Sale: MF=
J
9040 & HTX-100 (1)
Thu Jul 07 08:50:45 1994
8:0.0.2 read
8:0.0.2 Trash
8:0.0.2 ALRT 1024
8:0.2.23 Dismissed with 1.
Thu Jul 07 10:30:51 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (1)
2:0.2.9 Successfully received Neil McKenzie, 9:40 AM 7/7/94=E4,HP O'scope
specs (1)
Thu Jul 07 12:52:08 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (8)
2:0.2.14 Successfully received prvalko,12:18 PM 7/7/94=E4,Seeking PowerMite =
1
Help! (1)
2:0.14.38 Successfully received Chuck Adams,11:18 AM 7/7/94=E4,July Issue (1=
)
2:0.21.35 Successfully received Jason Penn,11:30 AM 7/7/94=E4,Another NorCal
40 Lives! (1)
2:0.24.26 Successfully received John F. Woods, 1:13 PM 7/7/94=E4,40-40
questions (1)
2:0.28.52 Successfully received christopher edward=E4,10:00 AM 7/7/94=E4,Exc=
el:
Selecting cell and adding text to it (1)
2:0.32.45 Successfully received Jamie Lawrence,11:30 AM 7/7/94=E4,stopping a
moving train (1)
2:0.37.4 Successfully received Robert Burns,12:37 PM 7/7/94=E4,Shapeware
Usability Test (1)
2:0.40.36 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 6:49 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Scripting FileMaker Pro (1)
Thu Jul 07 16:29:57 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.44 Sending Andy, stopping a moving train.
1:0.8.41 Succeeded.
2:0.15.37 halcyon.com 110 (10)
2:0.20.33 Successfully received Pete 'Happy' Thomas, 2:39 PM
7/7/94=E4,MacPGP2.6 (1)
2:0.24.55 Successfully received Pete 'Happy' Thomas, 3:15 PM 7/7/94=E4,Got i=
t
all (1)
2:0.29.19 Successfully received Pete 'Happy' Thomas, 2:52 PM
7/7/94=E4,follow-up to encrypting-scripting (1)
2:0.31.36 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 3:40 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
stopping a moving train (1)
2:0.34.10 Successfully received anthony brown, 4:07 PM 7/7/94=E4,anoth fmpro
scripting question... (1)
2:0.51.8 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=E4, 2:15 PM
7/7/94=E4,Info-Mac Digest V12 #94 1/3 (3)
2:0.53.30 Successfully received WalrathW,11:25 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re: stopping a
moving train (1)
2:0.56.2 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 5:27 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re: anoth
fmpro scripting question... (1)
2:0.58.10 Successfully received George Dobbs G3RJV,10:44 PM 7/7/94=E4,G QRP
CLUB (1)
2:1.0.19 Successfully received George Dobbs G3RJV, 1:14 AM 7/7/94=E4,Re: QRP
library comments (1)
=46ri Jul 08 08:07:56 1994
2:0.0.4 halcyon.com 110 (20)
2:0.3.29 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:05 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
Excel: Selecting cell and adding text to it (1)
2:0.6.39 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 4:10 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re: stoppin=
g
a moving train (1)
2:0.9.6 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 4:10 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re: anoth
fmpro scripting question... (1)
2:0.12.30 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:13 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
Scriptable Finder docs (1)
2:0.15.5 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:18 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
stopping a moving train (1)
2:0.19.4 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:17 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
wierd variable substitution problem (1)
2:0.21.24 Successfully received [e-mail], 6:50 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re[2]:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:0.24.36 Successfully received Dewi Williams, 1:18 AM 7/8/94=E4,AppleScript
heritage problems (1)
2:0.29.31 Successfully received Andy Kington, 5:43 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re: Scriptin=
g
=46ileMaker Pro (1)
2:0.32.8 Successfully received "Sean Carton (Theo=E4, 9:13 PM 7/7/94=E4,Open
Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability (1)
2:0.35.14 Successfully received Richard L. Upchurch, 9:54 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Open Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability (1)
2:0.38.2 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 8:23 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
AppleScript heritage problems (1)
2:0.40.58 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 8:29 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re: Open
Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability (1)
2:0.43.57 Successfully received Chris Etesse,12:43 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re: Excel:
Selecting cell and adding text to it (1)
2:0.48.28 Successfully received Mark Alldritt,10:05 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re: How to
pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations) (1)
2:0.51.21 Successfully received Tilmann Robbe, 1:47 PM 7/8/94=E4,Replacing a=
n
element of a string (1)
2:0.55.34 Successfully received Sabatucci, Joe, 8:14 AM 7/8/94=E4,Filemaker
Pro scripting (1)
2:0.58.39 Successfully received Steve Alex, 7:38 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re: How to
pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations) (1)
2:1.1.16 Successfully received Andrew Maier, 3:02 PM 7/8/94=E4,Choosing a
printer form a script (1)
2:1.5.8 Successfully received David Brown,10:05 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
Applescripting Serial Port (1)
1:1.5.55 halcyon.com 25
1:1.8.8 Sending Andy, Shapeware Usability Test.
1:1.15.53 Succeeded.
1:1.16.56 Sending dBug-SIG, Shapeware Usability Test.
1:1.36.16 Succeeded.
=46ri Jul 08 09:45:34 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.2 Sending Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: Scriptable Finder docs.
1:0.12.17 Succeeded.
1:0.13.22 Sending Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: Applescripting Serial Por=
t.
1:0.22.35 Succeeded.
2:0.26.53 halcyon.com 110 (6)
2:0.29.46 Successfully received TOM FORD - DUPONT =E4,11:40 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
Calculation Field Problem (1)
2:0.32.37 Successfully received Kevin A. Gemeinhart,11:49 AM
7/8/94=E4,FileMaker / ApplesScript Reference Books? (1)
2:0.34.53 Successfully received David Flory, 7:59 AM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
Calculation Field Problem (1)
2:0.37.35 Successfully received JOHN TIPPETT, (919=E4,12:01 PM
7/8/94=E4,Summary of counts (1)
2:0.41.13 Successfully received Piers Stainforth,12:21 PM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
Summary of counts (1)
2:0.47.37 Successfully received Kim-Son Tran,12:40 PM 7/8/94=E4,ccMail
Scripting (1)
=46ri Jul 08 13:54:18 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (15)
2:0.2.53 Successfully received 1.8a,12:47 PM 7/8/94=E4,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.6.34 Successfully received 1.8a,12:47 PM 7/8/94=E4,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.9.55 Successfully received Jason Penn,10:22 AM 7/8/94=E4,Revised Tale of
My NorCa7/8/94=E4,Re: OSA Men=
u
and Frontier (1)
2:1.20.25 Successfully received [e-mail],12:40 AM 7/9/94=E4,Re:
killing backgroup applications (1)
2:1.28.30 Successfully received [e-mail],12:42 AM 7/9/94=E4,Re:
Killing Faceless Background Apps (1)
2:1.39.14 Successfully received anthony brown, 1:47 AM 7/9/94=E4,is there a
way to hide background apps? (1)
2:1.47.43 Successfully received Mike Cohen,10:57 PM 7/8/94=E4,Re: OSA Menu
and Frontier (1)
2:1.52.8 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=E4, 9:59 PM 7/8/94=E4,Re:
"Balanced" L Nets? (1)
2:2.1.25 Successfully received Jason Penn,11:12 PM 7/8/94=E4,N9RPT's First
NorCal 40 QSO (1)
2:2.11.13 Successfully received Todd Hooper, 2:43 PM 7/9/94=E4,Filemaker -
thanks! (1)
2:2.24.44 Successfully received Jon Pugh,12:11 AM 7/9/94=E4,Re: Script=
 Objects (1)
2:2.31.9 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:53 AM 7/9/94=E4,20M Shrinking (1=
)
2:2.43.35 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:42 AM 7/9/94=E4,Sample SPRAT (1=
)
2:2.48.51 Successfully received W. Daniel,11:17 AM 7/9/94=E4,LM386 (1)
2:2.55.22 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:26 AM 7/9/94=E4,40-40=
 spur (1)
2:2.59.30 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:46 AM 7/9/94=E4,LM386
replacement (1)
2:3.3.9 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,10:47 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re QRP
Library Comments (1)
2:3.7.55 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,10:54 PM 7/8/94=E4,Review my
article? (1)
2:3.18.19 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,11:06 PM 7/8/94=E4,Interest
in Milliwatt? (1)
2:3.21.35 Successfully received Andrew Maier, 4:17 PM 7/9/94=E4,Turning
AppleTalk on and off from a script (1)
2:3.25.56 Successfully received George Synowiec,10:12 AM 7/9/94=E4,The
Scriptable Finder (1)
2:3.34.25 Successfully received John Welch,11:53 AM 7/9/94=E4, (1)
2:3.39.37 Successfully received Dennis Birch, 1:37 PM 7/9/94=E4,Re: "Is ther=
e
a file?" command (1)
2:3.43.0 Successfully received Barry Chern, 4:34 PM 7/9/94=E4,msg.=
 formatting (1)
2:3.48.12 Successfully received David Lewis, 2:37 PM 7/9/94=E4,Re: OSA Menu
and Frontier (1)
2:3.54.6 Successfully received David Ray, 3:59 PM 7/9/94=E4,Re: MacPGP2.6 (1=
)
2:3.59.27 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 6:04 PM 7/9/94=E4,Re: The
Scriptable Finder (1)
2:4.2.26 Successfully received prvalko, 8:29 PM 7/9/94=E4,MFJ Audio
Improvement? (1)
2:4.5.25 Successfully received James Speer, 9:44 PM 7/9/94=E4,Re: MFJ Audio
Improvement? (1)
2:4.8.9 Successfully received Michael S. Dooley, 9:51 PM 7/9/94=E4,SWR Bridg=
e
from Doug Demaw in CQ (1)
2:4.11.5 Successfully received [e-mail],11:08 PM 7/9/94=E4,Thanks to
K5FO..... (1)
2:4.17.3 Successfully received [e-mail],11:09 PM 7/9/94=E4,QRP Club
Address List (1)
2:4.21.38 Successfully received Doug Hendricks, 8:17 PM 7/9/94=E4,NorCal 40
MiniKits (1)
2:4.28.38 Successfully received Paul G Smith, 7:46 PM 7/7/94=E4,Re:
Applescripting Serial Port (1)
2:4.35.36 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:06 AM 7/10/9=E4,IM QD GX
Printing (1)
2:4.41.49 Successfully received W. Daniel, 2:32 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: MFJ Audio
Improvement? (1)
2:4.47.20 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol,12:11 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: OSA
Menu and Frontier (1)
2:4.50.29 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol,12:12 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: The
Scriptable Finder (1)
2:4.55.25 Successfully received Bruce Toback,12:40 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: 40/15m
rigs? (1)
2:5.0.22 Successfully received W. J. Proffer,11:47 AM
7/10/9=E4,Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:5.6.31 Successfully received Jon Pugh, 1:33 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: Turning
AppleTalk on and off from a script (1)
2:5.14.41 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=E4,10:32 AM 7/11/9=E4,Re:=
 is
there a way to hide background apps? (1)
2:5.19.55 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=E4,10:37 AM 7/11/9=E4,Re:
msg. formatting (1)
2:5.24.4 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 6:00 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re
Milliwatt (1)
2:5.28.42 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 5:53 PM 7/10/9=E4,Missing
digests? (1)
2:5.32.25 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 8:21 PM 7/10/9=E4,MFJ audi=
o
comment (1)
2:5.36.44 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 8:25 PM 7/10/9=E4,New
packet address (1)
2:5.42.11 Successfully received [e-mail],11:08 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re:
Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:5.46.47 Successfully received [e-mail]=E4,10:49 PM 7/10/9=E4,Fie=
ld
Day (better late than...) (1)
2:5.54.35 Successfully received Kiran Wagle,12:38 AM 7/11/9=E4,Script Editor=
 (1)
2:5.57.46 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 9:43 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: msg.
formatting (1)
2:6.2.16 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=E4, 4:46 PM 7/11/9=E4,Re:
Script Editor (1)
2:6.5.36 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:00 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: Script
Editor (1)
2:6.11.8 Successfully received Kee Nethery +1 510=E4,10:04 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re:
Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:6.15.12 Successfully received [e-mail]=E4,11:02 PM
7/10/9=E4,NE570s, DCRs and other doodads (1)
2:6.18.33 Successfully received Jon Pugh,10:38 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re:
Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:6.23.58 Successfully received W. Daniel,11:35 AM 7/11/9=E4,MC1350 input
impedance (1)
2:6.26.21 Successfully received Jeff Jones,10:02 PM 7/10/9=E4,QRP really doe=
s
work! (1)
2:6.29.4 Successfully received Oliver Muoto,11:42 PM 7/10/9=E4,Re: Script
Editor (1)
2:6.32.44 Successfully received Tom Kerns,11:50 PM 7/10/9=E4,MFJ 9020 loud
Tx/Rx switch (1)
2:6.35.43 Successfully received Michael Silva, 1:06 AM 7/11/9=E4,Re: MC1350
input impedance (1)
2:6.38.38 Successfully received W. Daniel, 3:43 PM 7/11/9=E4,Re: NE570s, DCR=
s
and other doodads (1)
2:6.41.40 Successfully received W. Daniel, 4:21 PM 7/11/9=E4,MC1350 vs.=
 MC1490 (1)
2:6.45.17 Successfully received WEBSTER_KER@CSUSYS=E4, 5:21 AM 7/11/9=E4,40/=
40
- How do I get one? (1)
2:6.47.56 Successfully received David Habermann, D=E4, 7:19 AM
7/11/9=E4,Scripting MacHTTP (1)
2:6.52.2 Successfully received Dave Fitch,12:21 PM 7/11/9=E4,Looking for ope=
n
windows in scriptable finder (1)
2:6.54.25 Successfully received Evert Halbach, 7:06 AM 7/11/9=E4,Re: 20 mtrs
"Shrinking" (1)
2:6.57.19 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:11 AM 7/11/9=E4,Re:
Scripting MacHTTP (1)
2:7.0.10 Successfully received simon, 3:16 PM 7/11/9=E4,AScript to do networ=
k
copy? (1)
2:7.4.12 Successfully received Stephen Trier,12:46 PM 7/11/9=E4,Re: NE570s,
DCRs and other doodads (1)
2:7.7.9 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes,10:25 AM 7/11/9=E4,Re: Looking
for open windows in scriptable finder (1)
2:7.10.28 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=E4, 8:57 AM
7/11/9=E4,Receiver Noise (1)
Mon Jul 11 10:38:45 1994
8:0.0.4 read
8:0.0.4 Trash
8:0.0.4 ALRT 1024
8:0.2.30 Dismissed with 1.
Mon Jul 11 13:09:40 1994
1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.29 Sending qrp, Re: Receiver Noise.
8:1.10.54 That pesky MacTCP is acting up again.
8:1.10.54 5
8:1.10.54 The connection timed out.
8:1.10.54 {37:110}
8:1.10.54 ALRT 1005
8:1.30.42 Dismissed with 1.
1:1.30.42 Failed (601).
8:3.8.6 Server not responding.
8:3.8.6 -23015
8:3.8.6 The connection came up halfway and then failed.
8:3.8.6 {37:93}
8:3.8.6 ALRT 1005
8:3.33.41 Dismissed with 1.
Mon Jul 11 13:13:19 1994
1:0.0.1 halcyon.com 25
8:0.22.19 The host is presently unreachable.
8:0.22.20 ALRT 1020
8:0.25.39 Dismissed with 1.
8:1.37.2 Server not responding.
8:1.37.2 -23015
8:1.37.3 The connection came up halfway and then failed.
8:1.37.3 {37:93}
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2:0.0.1 halcyon.com 110 (13)
2:0.2.39 Successfully received W. Daniel, 8:06 PM 7/11/9=E4,MC1350 noise (1)
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2:0.18.8 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol, 9:41 AM 7/11/9=E4,Re:
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Keyer Question (1)
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io
output chips article (1)
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7/11/9=E4,Info-Mac Digest V12 #95 1/4 (4)
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2:2.7.45 Successfully received Greg Buhyoff, 1:45 PM 7/11/9=E4,FT 690r-MKII =
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Mon Jul 11 16:30:52 1994
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rigs? (1)
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QRP
Club Address List (1)
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r
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and Frontier (1)
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Mon Jul 11 16:38:30 1994
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2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (2)
2:0.3.35 Successfully received Brian Hall, 4:33 PM 7/11/9=E4,Free Space? (1)
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Tue Jul 12 08:19:58 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (14)
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CLUB RENEWALS (1)
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d
=46rontier (1)
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and listboxes... (1)
2:0.17.0 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 6:25 PM 7/11/9=E4,Re: OSA Men=
u
and Frontier (1)
2:0.22.22 Successfully received Larry Mull, 6:09 PM 7/11/9=E4,First portable
QSO's (1)
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question 2 MACAPP3TECH$ (1)
2:0.37.57 Successfully received Jon Pugh,12:17 AM 7/12/9=E4,Re:
OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript (1)
2:0.40.50 Successfully received Herb Schilling, 6:08 AM 7/12/9=E4,Re:
frontmost and listboxes... (1)
2:0.59.13 Successfully received Adam C. Engst, 9:12 PM
7/11/9=E4,TidBITS#234/11-Jul-94 1/2 (2)
2:1.6.48 Successfully received John Schettino, 8:46 AM 7/12/9=E4,Re:
frontmost and listboxes... (1)
2:1.11.37 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:20 AM 7/12/9=E4,Re: Free
Space? (1)
Tue Jul 12 12:37:26 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (13)
2:0.5.22 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:14 AM 7/12/9=E4,Re:
OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript (1)
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2:3.26.5 Successfully received Ted Albert, 4:00 PM 7/13/9=E4,NAND Gate
transmitter ? (1)
2:3.29.57 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:00 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: (2)
=46rontmost Info (1)
2:3.32.25 Successfully received Brien Pepperdine, 5:48 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re:=
 2SC799 (1)
2:3.36.47 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 7:58 AM 7/13/9=E4,No
hamfest toroids! (1)
2:3.39.44 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:18 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: MACSCRPT
Digest - 11 Jul 1994 to 12 Jul 1994 (1)
2:3.42.53 Successfully received Michael Silva,12:59 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: thumb
tacks (1)
2:3.47.39 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:19 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: Frontier:
controlling menubar objects (1)
2:3.51.31 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:19 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: Making
=46rontier wait for KeyQuencer (1)
2:3.54.36 Successfully received bruce.florip@amail=E4, 3:28 PM 7/13/9=E4,OHR=
-40
progress (1)
2:3.57.5 Successfully received m.e.hartwell, 3:10 PM 7/13/9=E4,catalog (1)
2:4.0.55 Successfully received David Lewis, 5:07 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: Making
=46rontier wait for KeyQuencer (1)
2:4.4.11 Successfully received anthony brown, 9:17 PM 7/13/9=E4,What's the
maximum size of a string in applescript/frontmost (1)
2:4.8.33 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 1:45 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re:  NAND Gat=
e
transmitter ? (1)
2:4.14.5 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:28 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: What's
the maximum size of a string in applescript/frontmo (1)
2:4.18.58 Successfully received Wayne Burdick, 6:32 PM 7/13/9=E4,Sierra=
 status (1)
2:4.21.54 Successfully received Dale L. Thomas, 7:55 PM 7/13/9=E4,MACSCRPT (=
1)
2:4.26.39 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 1:11 AM 7/14/9=E4,Re: NAND
Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:4.30.14 Successfully received David Myers,11:04 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: Frontier:
controlling menubar objects (1)
2:4.34.4 Successfully received Michael Silva, 5:22 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: NAND Gat=
e
transmitter ? (1)
2:4.37.28 Successfully received Michael Silva, 5:30 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: 2SC799 =
(1)
2:4.40.0 Successfully received [e-mail],10:31 PM 7/13/9=E4,baluns,
tuners, etc. (1)
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0
marine bcster..... (1)
2:4.46.52 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 2:47 AM 7/14/9=E4,Re: NAND
Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:4.50.10 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,10:59 PM 7/13/9=E4,Got
Archives! (1)
2:4.52.34 Successfully received [e-mail]=E4, 1:33 AM 7/14/9=E4,Is
that what you look like! (1)
2:4.56.40 Successfully received Michael Silva, 8:45 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: NAND
Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:5.0.52 Successfully received Stephen Lee,11:41 PM 7/13/9=E4,Re: NAND Gate
transmitter ? (1)
2:5.4.50 Successfully received WalrathW,11:47 AM 7/14/9=E4,Re: cancel (1)
2:5.7.55 Successfully received Kiran Wagle, 8:00 AM 7/14/9=E4,Apple's
scripting packages (1)
2:5.10.13 Successfully received P J Roberts,12:02 PM 7/14/9=E4,Info needed o=
n
J310 FETs (1)
2:5.12.51 Successfully received Jean Berthomieu, 2:45 PM 7/14/9=E4,Re: AS=
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2:5.17.16 Successfully received Peter 'Happy' Thom=E4, 9:07 AM 7/14/9=E4,Re:=
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1.1 (1)
2:5.19.35 Successfully received Greg Buhyoff, 7:53 AM 7/14/9=E4,internet
reflector for eqip sales (1)
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=46rontmost Info (1)
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 1.1 (1)
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Gate Transmitter (1)
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from AppleScript? (1)
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d
QQ are out (1)
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Tell in MD (1)
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Monthly Harrange (1)
Thu Jul 14 08:46:03 1994
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1:0.6.40 Sending W. Daniel, Re: Receiver Noise.
1:0.53.22 Succeeded.
1:0.54.31 Sending [e-mail], =B4No Subject=AA.
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1:1.14.10 Succeeded.
Thu Jul 14 11:01:54 1994
2:0.0.4 halcyon.com 110 (15)
2:0.3.29 Successfully received Kevin Burke,10:16 AM 7/14/9=E4,Eudora Sorting
Scripts (1)
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Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:0.13.18 Successfully received 10465::M405142, 8:49 AM 7/14/9=E4,AGC in DC
Receivers, Part II (1)
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1)
2:0.20.2 Successfully received Brian C. Forney,10:29 AM 7/14/9=E4,Anarchie
1.21 & AppleScript problem (1)
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Sorting Scripts (1)
2:0.33.25 Successfully received David Feldman, 7:58 AM 7/14/9=E4,Re: NAND
Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:0.38.29 Successfully received stark, 7:50 AM 7/14/9=E4,Re: Got Archives! (=
1)
2:0.41.54 Successfully received Desmond K. Mullen,12:02 PM 7/14/9=E4,Re: (1)
2:0.44.56 Successfully received 10465::M405142, 8:26 AM 7/14/9=E4,RE: TTL
Transmitter. (1)
2:0.48.19 Successfully received P J Roberts, 4:53 PM 7/14/9=E4,Thanks for
J310 info (1)
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ops from Florida IOTA (1)
2:0.53.11 Successfully received Klaus P. Fechner,12:38 PM 7/14/9=E4,Re: AS=
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2:1.0.5 Successfully received [e-mail].=E4, 9:08 AM 7/14/9=E4,Re:
Plessey SL6440 mixer - source? (1)
2:1.2.37 Successfully received Roy S. Rapoport,10:47 AM 7/14/9=E4,Checking
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=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:55:37 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Anarchie 1.21 & AppleScript problem

>on open myFile
>        --set up the ftp info
>        set destinationSite to "copper.engin.umich.edu"
>        set userName to "bforney"
>        set userPassword to text returned of ?
>                (display dialog "Please enter your password:" default answe=
r
>"")
>        set sendFile to myFile as string -- turn file into a string
>
>        tell application "Anarchie"
>                activate
>                store host destinationSite path "~" name sendFile user user=
Name
>password
>userPassword
>        end tell
>end open
>
>The script seems to die on the store command with an error "Can't make some
>data
>into the expected type." All of the parameters for the store command should=
 be
>strings, but I can't figure out why they aren't passed as strings. (I have
>changed the set statements to include "as string" but this doesn't help.)
>
>Brian Forney
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]

The store event needs an alias (or a file reference) to the file you are
going to store. This also must be the first parameter to the command. You
get a list of aliases to the files dropped in the myFile parameter
(remember there could be more than one ...).

So wrap tell app "Anarchie" in the following manner:

tell application "Anarchie"
        activate
        repeat with aFile in myFile
                store aFile etc .....
        end repeat
end tell

And remove the references to "sendFile"

This should work (I've not tried it).

Tue Jun 28 11:45:28 1994
2:0.0.0 Successfully received MACAPP.ADMIN@apple=94, 6:13 PM 6/28/9=94,Inter=
net
limitation (1)
2:0.2.53 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol,11:04 AM 6/28/9=94,Re:
Calling a script from an application (1)
Tue Jun 28 16:37:51 1994
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1:0.2.18 Sending [e-mail], Re: FW: 2 die seeing E.C..
1:0.7.35 Succeeded.
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Day Class 15A?! (1)
2:0.37.35 Successfully received Jeff Robbins, 2:30 PM 6/28/9=94,How to use a
text window in Eudora (1)
2:0.40.25 Successfully received John W. Baxter,11:05 AM 6/28/9=94,Re: Event
Manager (1)
2:0.43.1 Successfully received Magnus Krampell, 1:13 PM 6/28/9=94,CMOS
Superkeyer II from Idiom Press ? (1)
2:0.46.0 Successfully received B. Bruce Brinson, 2:34 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: Event
Manager take 2 (1)
2:0.48.44 Successfully received Doug Baron,11:34 AM 6/28/9=94,Re: Frontier:
kAENoUserInteraction (or whatever it's called... (1)
2:0.51.43 Successfully received Taylor Leaming H3-=94, 1:41 PM
6/28/9=94,Scripting Eudora through a firewall? (1)
2:0.54.41 Successfully received William N. Blake, 2:46 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: Even=
t
Manager (1)
2:0.57.9 Successfully received John F. Woods, 2:47 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: Field Da=
y
Class 15A?! (1)
2:0.59.59 Successfully received Kevin Purcell,11:44 AM 6/28/9=94,Re: Field
Day Class 15A?! (1)
2:1.2.28 Successfully received Sandro Menzel,12:08 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: I need
Cherie Nickell's phone number (1)
2:1.5.20 Successfully received Kee Nethery +1 408=94, 1:10 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: =
How
to use a text window in Eudora (1)
2:1.9.46 Successfully received Fred Terry, 3:51 PM 6/28/9=94,Info about
Scripter (1)
2:1.12.56 Successfully received Jeremy Howard, 9:28 AM 6/29/9=94,Re:
Scripting Eudora through a firewall? (1)
Wed Jun 29 08:55:02 1994
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1:0.17.27 Sending John F. Woods, Re: Field Day Class 15A?!.
1:0.42.58 Succeeded.
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1:0.52.32 Succeeded.
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2:0.59.37 Successfully received Lawrence D'Oliveiro,12:05 PM 6/29/9=94,Re> I=
s
this an AppleScript bug? (1)
2:1.2.32 Successfully received [e-mail]=94, 6:47 PM 6/28/9=94,QRP =
FD
in Raleigh NC (1)
2:1.5.0 Successfully received Bookbinder, 4:44 PM 6/28/9=94,sort order (1)
2:1.12.11 Successfully received Christopher Allen, 5:43 PM 6/28/9=94,Everyda=
y
AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners! (1)
2:1.34.45 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=94, 6:33 PM
6/28/9=94,Info-Mac Digest V12 #91 1/4 (4)
2:1.37.45 Successfully received Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 2:52 PM 6/29/9=94,Re>
error -610 (1)
2:1.40.24 Successfully received Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 3:05 PM 6/29/9=94,MIME
disappointment (1)
2:1.43.12 Successfully received Craig Richmond,11:31 AM 6/29/9=94,Re: MIME
disappointment (1)
2:1.45.52 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94, 4:51 PM 6/29/9=94,Re:
MIME disappointment (1)
2:1.48.42 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,11:36 PM 6/28/9=94,Where ar=
e
archives? (1)
2:1.53.4 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,11:32 PM 6/28/9=94,More=
 coils (1)
2:1.56.21 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:20 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: Re> Is
this an AppleScript bug? (1)
2:1.59.28 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:37 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: error
-610 (1)
2:2.2.55 Successfully received Steve Palmen,11:30 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: I need
Cherie Nickell's phone number (1)
2:2.6.58 Successfully received stark,11:27 PM 6/28/9=94,Re: CMOS Superkeyer
II from Idiom Press ? (1)
2:2.9.30 Successfully received stark,11:32 PM 6/28/9=94,Manual help (1)
2:2.12.17 Successfully received Stan Goldstein, N6=94,11:37 PM
6/28/9=94,archive access (1)
2:2.14.48 Successfully received Dean J. Spearman, 7:57 AM 6/29/9=94,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:2.18.21 Successfully received Dean J. Spearman, 7:58 AM 6/29/9=94,Re: clea=
n
page breaking? (1)
2:2.20.45 Successfully received Ernst 'pooh' Mulder, 2:12 PM 6/29/9=94,Re:
clean page breaking? (1)
2:2.23.31 Successfully received Fred Terry, 8:54 AM 6/29/9=94,formatted
number/string conversion UCMD (1)
2:2.26.12 Successfully received David Lewis, 8:33 AM 6/29/9=94,Re: MIME
disappointment (1)
2:2.30.30 Successfully received [e-mail]=94,10:01 AM 6/29/9=94,QRP
archives...via gopher (1)
Wed Jun 29 09:15:43 1994
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Wed Jun 29 09:23:42 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (1)
2:0.2.26 Successfully received John F. Woods,12:00 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: Field Da=
y
Class 15A?! (1)
Wed Jun 29 10:52:46 1994
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1:0.3.5 Sending John F. Woods, Re: Field Day Class 15A?!.
1:0.21.10 Succeeded.
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1:0.37.52 Succeeded.
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n
page breaking- solutions (1)
2:0.47.50 Successfully received Chris Colebank, 9:26 AM 6/29/9=94,copying
files to Novell vol (1)
2:0.54.55 Successfully received John Littlefield,11:42 AM 6/29/9=94,Re: clea=
n
page breaking? (1)
2:0.57.37 Successfully received John Littlefield,12:18 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: sort
order (1)
2:1.0.56 Successfully received [e-mail],12:05 PM 6/29/9=94,CQC FD 94 (1=
)
2:1.3.42 Successfully received william.redfearn.c=94, 8:06 AM 6/29/9=94,Inde=
x
Labs Phone Number? (1)
Wed Jun 29 12:44:55 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (7)
2:0.4.20 Successfully received 1.7f, 1:54 PM 6/29/9=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.12.57 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 2:19 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: Is it
Scriptor or scripter? (1)
2:0.15.25 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 2:19 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: Is it
Scriptor or scripter? (1)
2:0.20.39 Successfully received Christian Orellana, 7:37 PM 6/29/9=94,Help!
ClarisWorks upgrade disintegrated aete resource (1)
2:0.23.15 Successfully received John W. Baxter,11:59 AM 6/29/9=94,Re: Is it
Scriptor or scripter? (1)
2:0.29.50 Successfully received John W. Baxter,12:02 PM 6/29/9=94,Real Re: I=
s
it Scriptor or scripter? (1)
2:0.32.33 Successfully received TOM FORD - DUPONT =94, 3:32 PM 6/29/9=94,Re:
sort order (1)
Wed Jun 29 13:55:14 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (3)
2:0.2.35 Successfully received Robert Burns,12:49 PM 6/29/9=94,ASD Puget
Sound July Meeting Reminder (1)
2:0.5.2 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 1:18 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: SIG
Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
2:0.7.26 Successfully received Peter Furmonavicius, 4:39 PM 6/29/9=94,AS
question (1)
Wed Jun 29 15:31:30 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (3)
2:0.3.58 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 5:04 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: AS
question (1)
2:0.6.22 Successfully received MIND.MOTION@applel=94, 9:45 PM
6/29/9=94,Subclassing under SOM (1)
2:0.8.46 Successfully received K. R. Maxwell, 3:52 AM 6/29/9=94,Coercing
Pathnames in AppleScript (1)
Wed Jun 29 16:55:00 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (2)
2:0.2.36 Successfully received Scott Sminkey - Su=94, 3:58 PM 6/29/9=94,More=
 on
the QST compact loop antenna (1)
2:0.5.12 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 3:46 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: Coercin=
g
Pathnames in AppleScript (1)
Thu Jun 30 08:15:31 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (26)
2:0.2.40 Successfully received Burbidge, Michael,12:18 AM 6/30/9=94,Re:
Subclassing under SOM (1)
2:0.6.17 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:41 PM 6/29/9=94,R1/R2/T2
info (1)
2:0.9.9 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 6:24 PM 6/29/9=94,Analyzing
Checkboxes part two (1)
2:0.15.51 Successfully received Barry Chern,11:46 PM 6/29/9=94,last word (1)
2:0.17.55 Successfully received Jeff Wedgwood, 8:07 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: SIG
Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
2:0.20.1 Successfully received Jeff Wedgwood, 8:04 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: test 1 (=
1)
2:0.24.36 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 2:05 PM 6/30/9=94,Re:
last word (1)
2:0.27.52 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 9:27 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: last
word (1)
2:0.29.59 Successfully received [e-mail]=94,12:52 AM=
 6/30/9=94,RELAYS (1)
2:0.32.22 Successfully received Tom Kerns,11:20 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: Software fo=
r
the Mac (1)
2:0.34.52 Successfully received Jon Pugh,11:43 PM 6/29/9=94,Re: MIME
disappointment (1)
2:0.37.13 Successfully received Adam Freeman, 8:42 AM 6/30/9=94,Please take
me off this list (1)
2:0.39.29 Successfully received James Speer, 2:54 AM 6/30/9=94,Re: RELAYS (1=
)
2:0.41.47 Successfully received YONA_SADIGURSCHI@M=94, 1:08 PM 6/30/9=94,OPF
and Metrowerkers (1)
2:0.44.5 Successfully received LOCKWOOD@CAMBRIDGE=94,10:30 AM 6/30/9=94,Re: =
OPF
and Metrowerkers (1)
2:0.46.32 Successfully received John Schettino, 8:06 AM 6/30/9=94,Re:
Coercing Pathnames in AppleScript (1)
2:0.49.11 Successfully received John Schettino, 8:14 AM 6/30/9=94,Re: last
word (1)
2:0.51.40 Successfully received John Schettino, 8:20 AM 6/30/9=94,Re: last
word (1)
2:0.55.24 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:44 AM 6/30/9=94,Re:
Coercing Pathnames in AppleScript (1)
2:1.4.36 Successfully received Frank Lowney, 9:53 AM 6/30/9=94,Re: Event
Manager take 2 (1)
2:1.8.36 Successfully received Ed Stratton       =94, 4:24 PM 6/29/9=94,RE:
More on the QST compact loop antenna (1)
2:1.11.21 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes,10:11 AM 6/30/9=94,Getting a
script to wait... (1)
2:1.15.14 Successfully received "Robert E. Easton =94, 8:52 AM 6/30/9=94,Hom=
e
Brew Sprint coming up (1)
2:1.17.55 Successfully received Pattie Devlin, 8:40 AM 6/30/9=94,Re:
Analyzing Checkboxes part two (1)
2:1.20.42 Successfully received Scott Sminkey - Su=94, 9:09 AM 6/30/9=94,FD =
de
W1TKZ (1)
2:1.23.21 Successfully received howie cahn, 9:17 AM 6/30/9=94,Survey: ham
magazines / computer operating systems (1)
Thu Jun 30 08:45:49 1994
8:0.0.3 read
8:0.0.3 Trash
8:0.0.4 ALRT 1024
8:0.3.23 Dismissed with 1.
Thu Jun 30 08:47:39 1994
1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.12 Sending Tom Kerns, Re: Software for the Mac.
1:0.7.32 Succeeded.
1:0.9.59 Sending howie cahn, Re: Survey: ham magazines / computer operating
systems.
1:0.15.41 Succeeded.
Thu Jun 30 10:52:37 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (6)
2:0.3.18 Successfully received John Littlefield, 9:43 AM 6/30/9=94,Re:
Analyzing Checkboxes part two (1)
2:0.6.13 Successfully received Saul Taylor,10:45 AM 6/30/9=94,Stuck in
Preview with script (1)
2:0.9.5 Successfully received Bruce Walker,10:19 AM 6/30/9=94,QRP List=
 Status (1)
2:0.11.47 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol,10:20 AM 6/30/9=94,Re:
Event Manager take 2 (1)
2:0.15.31 Successfully received Daniel R. Auchincl=94,12:16 PM 6/30/9=94,Re:
clean page breaking? (1)
2:0.17.54 Successfully received [e-mail].g=94,10:15 AM 6/30/9=94,589
QRP from TX (1)
Thu Jun 30 12:05:18 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (5)
2:0.4.9 Successfully received Steve Michel,10:52 AM 6/30/9=94,Re: Is it
Scriptor or scripter? (1)
2:0.6.39 Successfully received James Speer,12:01 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: 589 QRP
from TX (1)
2:0.11.0 Successfully received Evert Halbach,11:54 AM 6/30/9=94,Same list (1=
)
2:0.13.48 Successfully received "Dave Griffin, Fer=94, 2:28 PM 6/30/9=94,Re:
=46older Trash Not Found Error (1)
2:0.15.54 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 5:23 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: ham-exp=
o
friedrichshafen (1)
Thu Jun 30 15:16:09 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (17)
2:0.2.22 Successfully received Cherie Peterson, 2:09 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: clean
page breaking? (1)
2:0.8.4 Successfully received Aaron E. McClennen, 1:38 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: erro=
r
-610 (1)
2:0.11.54 Successfully received Bruce Walker, 1:45 PM 6/30/9=94,more
administrivia (1)
2:0.15.56 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 6:10 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: (1)
2:0.18.49 Successfully received Barry Chern, 3:13 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: last word=
 (1)
2:0.25.5 Successfully received John W. Baxter,12:17 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: MIME
disappointment (1)
2:0.27.23 Successfully received Cherie Peterson, 2:30 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: Stuck
in Preview with script (1)
2:0.29.55 Successfully received John Littlefield, 2:27 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: clea=
n
page breaking? (1)
2:0.33.33 Successfully received Cindy Zimmerman, 3:51 PM 6/30/9=94,working
with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:0.35.51 Successfully received Saul Taylor, 4:08 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: Stuck in
Preview with script (1)
2:0.38.1 Successfully received Saul Taylor, 3:39 PM 6/30/9=94,? Delay in
distribution (1)
2:0.40.31 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 2:19 PM 6/30/9=94,Frontier
3.0.x string.popLeading () (1)
2:0.43.8 Successfully received Rich Coulombre, 2:34 PM 6/30/9=94,Re:
Analyzing Checkboxes part two (1)
2:0.46.22 Successfully received Jamie Lawrence, 2:45 PM 6/30/9=94,Address &
number for UseLand? (1)
2:0.48.57 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94, 9:47 AM 7/1/94=94,Re:
Event Manager take 2 (1)
2:0.51.12 Successfully received Fred Terry, 4:48 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: Address &
number for UseLand? (1)
2:0.54.17 Successfully received Igor Livshits, 4:55 PM 6/30/9=94,Notify and
Eudora 2.1 (1)
Thu Jun 30 15:48:04 1994
8:0.0.1 Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: File path, strings, aliass,
=46sSpecs, etc
8:0.0.1 ALRT 1010
8:0.3.52 Dismissed with 1.
8:0.4.17 Martina Lauchengco, Re: MacWord beta
8:0.4.17 ALRT 1010
8:0.5.6 Dismissed with 1.
8:0.5.20 [e-mail], =A5No Subject=81
8:0.5.20 ALRT 1010
8:0.6.20 Dismissed with 1.
Tue Jul 05 11:23:49 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (126)
2:0.2.23 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:39 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: OPF
and Metrowerkers (1)
2:0.5.26 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:44 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: Address &
number for UseLand? (1)
2:0.11.50 Successfully received Steve Martin, 9:58 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: Everyday
AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners! (1)
2:0.14.32 Successfully received Tom Kerns, 9:08 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: Software fo=
r
the Mac (1)
2:0.16.55 Successfully received Tim Bertram,10:34 AM 6/30/9=94,Re: SIG
Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
2:0.19.52 Successfully received Clark Savage Turne=94, 8:27 PM 6/30/9=94,Ten
Tec PTO adjustment (1)
2:0.22.27 Successfully received Clark Savage Turne=94, 8:41 PM 6/30/9=94,Nor=
Cal
40 backpacking (1)
2:0.25.36 Successfully received Nick Arnett,10:20 PM 6/30/9=94,Index &
full-text archive of these lists (1)
2:0.28.9 Successfully received Tero Loimuneva, 9:09 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: Folder
Trash Not Found Error (1)
2:0.30.46 Successfully received John W. Baxter,11:47 PM 6/30/9=94,Re: Addres=
s
& number for UseLand? (1)
2:0.33.16 Successfully received Clark Savage Turne=94,12:24 AM 7/1/94=94,Hap=
py
"G5RV" antenna change (1)
2:0.38.30 Successfully received Barry Chern, 4:53 AM 7/1/94=94,last word (1)
2:0.41.13 Successfully received [e-mail], 6:41 AM 7/1/94=94,Field Da=
y
Results (1)
2:0.43.52 Successfully received Todd Hooper, 8:57 PM 7/1/94=94,ScriptLink (1=
)
2:0.47.0 Successfully received David Flory, 6:12 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: Stuck in
Preview with script (1)
2:0.51.52 Successfully received Mario Garcia, 8:42 AM 7/1/94=94,help (1)
2:0.56.6 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:17 AM 7/1/94=94,Tuners (1=
)
2:0.59.45 Successfully received Justin Rains, 8:47 AM 7/1/94=94,DataBase of
Users--PSE Read (1)
2:1.32.59 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=94, 7:01 AM
7/1/94=94,Info-Mac Digest V12 #92 1/4 (4)
2:1.35.24 Successfully received JEFF M. GOLD, 8:09 AM 7/1/94=94,LCK for sale=
 (1)
2:1.38.24 Successfully received Mark J Schreiner, 7:25 AM 7/1/94=94,Re:
=46ield Day Results (1)
2:1.40.59 Successfully received Brad Mitchell, 9:43 AM 7/1/94=94,Wanrted Ann
Landers of QRP help (1)
2:1.43.32 Successfully received Howard Freeman, 4:04 PM 7/1/94=94,making dem=
o
versions (1)
2:1.47.5 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 1:27 AM 7/2/94=94,Re: Analyzin=
g
checkboxes (1)
2:1.50.47 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 8:37 AM 7/1/94=94,Thanks
for the checkbox analysis (1)
2:1.54.38 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 2:03 AM 7/2/94=94,Re: making
demo versions (1)
2:1.58.22 Successfully received Laurie Gelb,11:11 AM 7/1/94=94,None (1)
2:2.0.55 Successfully received JEFF M. GOLD, 9:35 AM 7/1/94=94,lck, sold (1)
2:2.4.55 Successfully received Randall Rhea, 9:34 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: Wanrted
Ann Landers of QRP help (1)
2:2.7.32 Successfully received stark, 7:38 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: Field Day=
 Results (1)
2:2.10.6 Successfully received Brian Cieslak, 9:54 AM 7/1/94=94,QRP Homebrew
Contest (1)
2:2.12.58 Successfully received stark, 7:41 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: Wanrted Ann
Landers of QRP help (1)
2:2.16.28 Successfully received stark, 7:35 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: LCK for sale (1=
)
2:2.20.3 Successfully received John F. Woods,11:22 AM 7/1/94=94,Not Field Da=
y
Results (1)
2:2.22.26 Successfully received Brad Mitchell,11:46 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: QRP
Homebrew Contest (1)
2:2.26.52 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:18 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: last
word (1)
2:2.29.25 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=94, 9:15 AM 7/1/94=94,Re:
lck, sold (1)
2:2.31.54 Successfully received Brian Cieslak,11:46 AM 7/1/94=94,Re:QRP
Hombrew Contest (1)
2:2.34.40 Successfully received Aaron E. McClennen, 8:24 AM 7/1/94=94,Re:
error -610 (1)
2:2.38.49 Successfully received Brian C. Forney, 1:42 PM 7/1/94=94,Re:
ScriptLink (1)
2:2.41.30 Successfully received John W. Baxter,11:51 AM 7/1/94=94,Graphing
Calculator (1)
2:2.44.4 Successfully received Kristinn Andersen, 6:02 PM
7/1/94=94,schematics + PCB software? (1)
2:2.46.44 Successfully received stark,11:12 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: Not Field Day
Results (1)
2:2.52.40 Successfully received Andy J. Williams, 3:18 PM 7/1/94=94,Re: help=
 (1)
2:2.55.39 Successfully received Dario Lopez K=EEsten, 9:18 PM
7/1/94=94,Subscribe (1)
2:2.58.30 Successfully received Jason Titus, 3:47 PM 7/1/94=94,Fwd:
Applescript Questions... (1)
2:3.1.3 Successfully received Brad Mitchell, 2:46 PM 7/1/94=94,Wanted Ann
Landers of QRP help (1)
2:3.3.54 Successfully received Brian Cieslak, 2:08 PM 7/1/94=94,Source of
Solar Panels (1)
2:3.7.5 Successfully received Rob Dewhirst, 3:45 PM 7/1/94=94,Excel scripts =
(1)
2:3.11.55 Successfully received Jeffrey Herman, 9:51 AM 7/1/94=94,Re: QRP
Homebrew Contest (1)
2:3.15.40 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 3:46 PM 7/1/94=94,Re: Fwd:
Applescript Questions... (1)
2:3.21.39 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:33 PM 7/1/94=94,R2/T2
pricing/order info (1)
2:3.27.52 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:39 PM
7/1/94=94,Distribution list (1)
2:3.30.31 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:24 PM 7/1/94=94,St. Louis
& Okla. QRP Club Address?? (1)
2:3.34.49 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:24 PM 7/1/94=94,R2/T2 Inf=
o
has been e-mailed (1)
2:3.42.29 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 6:15 PM 7/1/94=94,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:3.47.33 Successfully received Steve Jones, 9:37 PM 7/1/94=94,Re: making
demo versions (1)
2:3.50.57 Successfully received John Welch, 8:57 PM 7/1/94=94, (1)
2:3.53.32 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94, 8:49 PM
7/1/94=94,INETers on the air (1)
2:3.56.22 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,12:07 AM 7/2/94=94,Hap=
py
"G5RV" antenna chan (1)
2:4.12.36 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,12:07 AM=
 7/2/94=94,Tuners (1)
2:4.15.11 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,10:01 AM 7/2/94=94,Re
Archives (1)
2:4.19.4 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 8:30 AM 7/2/94=94,Re: makin=
g
demo versions (1)
2:4.22.54 Successfully received CLPLIST/MR. LANDFI=94, 9:15 AM 7/2/94=94,Re:
making demo versions (1)
2:4.26.29 Successfully received [e-mail]=94, 6:13 PM 7/2/94=94,Mor=
e
Old QRP Stories &c. (1)
2:4.29.5 Successfully received Tom Kerns, 6:52 PM 7/2/94=94,Re: More Old QRP
Stories &c. (1)
2:4.31.42 Successfully received Timothy Scott,12:35 PM 7/3/94=94,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:4.35.32 Successfully received W. Daniel,12:07 AM 7/3/94=94,NN1G question (=
1)
2:4.39.16 Successfully received W. Daniel,11:48 PM 7/2/94=94,Iambic Keyer
boards: Setback (1)
2:4.41.55 Successfully received John F. Woods, 9:11 AM 7/3/94=94,Re: NN1G
question (1)
2:4.44.25 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 7:51 AM 7/3/94=94,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:4.47.6 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 1:14 AM 7/4/94=94,Re: Analyzin=
g
checkboxes (1)
2:4.56.28 Successfully received howie cahn, 2:22 PM 7/3/94=94,Survey results
- Ham magazines/computers (1)
2:5.0.37 Successfully received Borre Ludvigsen, 7:46 PM 7/3/94=94,Writing to
the modem port. (1)
2:5.3.1 Successfully received [e-mail], 1:13 PM 7/3/94=94,Field Day
Brag... (1)
2:5.8.43 Successfully received Mark Hadfield, 5:59 PM 7/3/94=94,Re: Excel
scripts (1)
2:5.12.1 Successfully received James Edward Davis, 6:45 PM 7/3/94=94,Re:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:5.16.28 Successfully received JEFF M. GOLD, 8:50 PM 7/3/94=94,AC4HF/P/M/QR=
P (1)
2:5.20.48 Successfully received Rick Zabrodski, 8:44 PM 7/3/94=94,Re: Tuners
and Z match (1)
2:5.24.38 Successfully received Rick Zabrodski, 8:52 PM 7/3/94=94,Re: Happy
"G5RV" antenna chan (1)
2:5.27.28 Successfully received Barry Chern, 3:11 AM 7/4/94=94,Re: Excel
scripts (via Digest) (1)
2:5.31.56 Successfully received Simon Jensen-Fello=94,11:14 AM 7/4/94=94,Re:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:5.36.53 Successfully received INRA000, 2:02 PM 7/4/94=94,Re[2]: working
with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:5.39.41 Successfully received [e-mail].=94, 9:43 AM
7/4/94=94,Lucking out at the surplus store (1)
2:5.42.42 Successfully received Chuck Adams, 2:40 PM 7/4/94=94,Re:  St. Loui=
s
& Okla. QRP Club Address?? (1)
2:5.48.28 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 3:21 PM 7/4/94=94,QRP
library comments (1)
2:5.54.4 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 5:35 PM 7/4/94=94,Re(2):
last word (1)
2:5.56.51 Successfully received [e-mail],10:25 PM 7/4/94=94,OPF/OD
build problems on Q840A (1)
2:6.2.19 Successfully received George Dobbs G3RJV,12:19 AM
7/5/94=94,Friedrichshafen Report (1)
2:6.6.45 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 5:52 PM 7/4/94=94,Re: Re(2):
last word (1)
2:6.9.22 Successfully received Todd Hooper, 9:20 AM 7/5/94=94,Scripting
=46ileMaker Pro (1)
2:6.12.52 Successfully received Doug Hendricks, 5:13 PM 7/4/94=94,July NorCa=
l
Meeting (1)
2:6.16.51 Successfully received Michael Stein     =94, 4:43 PM 7/4/94=94,LM3=
86
noise? (1)
2:6.19.21 Successfully received [e-mail],11:04 PM
7/4/94=94,undelivered R2/T2 info (1)
2:6.21.54 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,11:02 PM 7/4/94=94,Re:
Happy "G5RV" antenna (1)
2:6.24.23 Successfully received Jeffrey Herman,10:12 PM 7/4/94=94,State-wide
project (1)
2:6.27.2 Successfully received Jeffrey Herman,10:43 PM 7/4/94=94,cleaning
variable caps (1)
2:6.29.53 Successfully received Boris Levitin, 7:40 AM 7/5/94=94,Debugging a=
n
applet properly (1)
2:6.33.52 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 8:49 AM 7/5/94=94,Re(2):
Re(2): last word (1)
2:6.37.14 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 9:02 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:6.39.45 Successfully received Becky Williams, 7:54 AM 7/5/94=94, (1)
2:6.42.41 Successfully received David Avery, 9:58 AM 7/5/94=94,FilMaker
windows (1)
2:6.46.13 Successfully received Robert J. Dougherty, 9:18 AM
7/5/94=94,IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:6.49.6 Successfully received Piers Stainforth,10:48 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:6.52.11 Successfully received Rob Dewhirst,10:07 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: Excel
scripts (via Digest) (1)
2:6.57.27 Successfully received Kee Nethery +1 510=94, 8:00 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
Macromedia Director and AppleScript (1)
2:7.0.14 Successfully received David Flory, 7:37 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:7.4.29 Successfully received Fred Terry,10:10 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: Excel
scripts (via Digest) (1)
2:7.7.13 Successfully received Daniel R. Auchincl=94,11:02 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
clean page breaking? (1)
2:7.9.55 Successfully received John P. Doughtie J=94,11:25 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
Returned mail (1)
2:7.12.53 Successfully received Paul J. Rodman, 8:46 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: SIG
Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
2:7.15.43 Successfully received David Davies, 2:31 PM 7/5/94=94,Macromedia
Director and AppleScript (1)
2:7.18.28 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 8:46 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:7.21.31 Successfully received Erik Speckman, 9:02 AM 7/5/94=94,What are
=46rontMost and FaceSpan. (1)
2:7.28.53 Successfully received Fred Terry,11:19 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: What are
=46rontMost and FaceSpan. (1)
2:7.41.36 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=94, 7:41 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
Re: Happy "G5RV" antenna (1)
2:7.44.34 Successfully received Burbidge, Michael, 4:03 PM 7/5/94=94,Re:
OPF/OD build problems on Q (1)
2:7.48.58 Successfully received David Boroditsky,11:12 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: Quar=
k
Halftone screen bombs (1)
2:7.52.28 Successfully received B. Bruce Brinson,10:08 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: What
are FrontMost and FaceSpan. (1)
2:7.56.32 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 3:15 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:8.0.11 Successfully received Chuck Adams,11:04 AM 7/5/94=94,OK QRP Group (=
1)
2:8.3.22 Successfully received Paul G Smith, 6:11 PM 7/5/94=94,Mailing list
for ScriptWizard users/info (1)
2:8.6.11 Successfully received Randall Rhea,11:24 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
AC4HF/P/M/QRP (1)
2:8.9.10 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol,10:21 AM 7/5/94=94,Re:
Debugging an applet properly (1)
2:8.12.22 Successfully received Timothy Scott, 3:00 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:8.14.58 Successfully received Scott Williams, 1:36 PM 7/5/94=94,stuffit &
applescript samples? (1)
Tue Jul 05 12:24:12 1994
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1:0.12.31 Succeeded.
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t.
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1:0.44.50 Sending Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: help.
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1:0.52.24 Sending Mark J Schreiner, Re:  Field Day Results.
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1:0.59.6 Sending Randall Rhea, Re: Wanrted Ann Landers of QRP help.
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1:1.6.5 Sending Jason Titus, Re: Fwd: Applescript Questions....
1:1.12.58 Succeeded.
1:1.13.27 Sending Claris FileMaker Pro discussions
<[e-mail].E, Re:.
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Tue Jul 05 13:40:05 1994
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2:0.2.29 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,10:04 AM 7/5/94=94,LM38=
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noise? (1)
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windows open (1)
2:0.7.36 Successfully received Rennie Innis,12:13 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: FilMaker
windows (1)
2:0.11.33 Successfully received Terry Thiel, 2:06 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Mailing
list for ScriptWizard users/info (1)
2:0.13.57 Successfully received Fred Terry, 2:13 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Mailing
list for ScriptWizard users/info (1)
2:0.17.30 Successfully received Frank Concannon, 2:26 PM 7/5/94=94,Measuring
Idle time under script (1)
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2):
OPF/OD build problems o (1)
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Number of windows open (1)
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"FMPRO-L" (1)
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2:0.2.47 Successfully received Andy J. Williams, 4:43 PM 7/5/94=94,Re:
Subscribe (1)
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QRP............ (1)
2:0.7.29 Successfully received W. Daniel, 3:02 AM 7/6/94=94,RIT/XIT for Gary
Breed (1)
2:0.9.52 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:58 AM 7/6/94=94,Mini Iambic (1)
2:0.12.23 Successfully received Mark J Schreiner, 3:18 PM 7/5/94=94,Re:
=46ield Day Results (1)
2:0.16.1 Successfully received Paul G Smith, 9:43 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Add me to
the Scriptwizard list (1)
2:0.18.27 Successfully received Dave Burnett, 2:30 PM 7/5/94=94,herding mac
developers (1)
2:0.20.56 Successfully received Data, 5:27 PM 7/5/94=94,Kill Faceless
Processes (1)
Tue Jul 05 14:50:10 1994
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Tue Jul 05 16:33:22 1994
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Tue Jul 05 16:44:16 1994
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2:0.3.20 Successfully received Bruce Robertson, 4:25 PM 7/5/94=94,first qrp
success (1)
2:0.5.59 Successfully received Fred Terry, 4:46 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Kill
=46aceless Processes (1)
2:0.8.39 Successfully received Grover Cleveland,11:53 AM 7/5/94=94,Crystal
frequencies (1)
2:0.11.48 Successfully received Data, 5:52 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Kill Faceless
Processes (1)
2:0.33.39 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=94,12:37 PM
7/5/94=94,Info-Mac Digest V12 #93 1/4 (4)
2:0.36.10 Successfully received W. Daniel, 3:38 AM 7/6/94=94,MC3362 tuning
range (1)
2:0.38.38 Successfully received Kevin Purcell, 1:50 PM 7/5/94=94,How much is
a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:0.42.27 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 3:33 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: How much
is a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:0.44.59 Successfully received [e-mail], 6:32 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Kill
=46aceless Processes (1)
2:0.47.18 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=94, 1:59 PM
7/5/94=94,Looking for Heathkit manual (1)
2:0.49.54 Successfully received bruce.florip@amail=94, 3:41 PM 7/5/94=94,How
much is a Tek 2213 scope wor (1)
2:0.52.11 Successfully received John F. Woods, 5:38 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: MC3362
tuning range (1)
2:0.54.55 Successfully received Paul J. Rodman, 4:11 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: SIG
Meeting on **June 30th** (1)
2:0.57.12 Successfully received Steve Martin, 6:17 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Kill
=46aceless Processes (1)
Wed Jul 06 08:09:52 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (36)
2:0.2.15 Successfully received Data, 7:46 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Kill Faceless
Processes (1)
2:0.4.22 Successfully received Rick Spanbauer, 8:00 PM 7/5/94=94,2213 (1)
2:0.7.40 Successfully received Craig LaBarge, 6:58 PM 7/5/94=94,QRP AFIELD
DETAILS?? (1)
2:0.9.56 Successfully received I want more $2000/=94, 7:10 PM 7/5/94=94,Toro=
id
questions..... (1)
2:0.12.28 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,10:04 AM 7/5/94=94,LM3=
86
noise? (1)
2:0.14.44 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,10:20 AM
7/5/94=94,"Balanced" L Nets? (1)
2:0.17.15 Successfully received [e-mail],10:07 AM 7/2/94=94,Z-match
tuner article (1)
2:0.19.34 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94, 4:50 PM 7/5/94=94,Re:
AC4HF/P/M/QRP (1)
2:0.21.57 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=94, 2:13 PM 7/5/94=94,LM=
 386 (1)
2:0.24.25 Successfully received Cherie Peterson, 8:32 PM 7/5/94=94, (1)
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7/5/94=94,Questions about SPRAT & almost no answers (1)
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Ramblings about QRP (1)
2:0.31.58 Successfully received Paul Benjamin Newl=94, 8:54 PM 7/5/94=94,Re:
qrp-digest V1 #29 (1)
2:0.34.14 Successfully received John Welch, 8:55 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: How much i=
s
a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:0.36.59 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:06 AM 7/6/94=94,Performance
comparisons (1)
2:0.39.34 Successfully received bruce.florip@amail=94, 3:41 PM 7/5/94=94,How
much is a Tek 2213 scope wor (1)
2:0.42.4 Successfully received Gary M Diana, 2:50 PM 7/5/94=94,antenna
tuners, etc. (1)
2:0.44.46 Successfully received Grover Cleveland, 9:41 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: More
Old QRP Stories &c. (1)
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cal
40 camping experience (1)
2:0.50.39 Successfully received John Welch, 8:55 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: How much i=
s
a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:0.53.8 Successfully received CLPLIST/MR. LANDFI=94, 7:59 PM 7/5/94=94,Re:
IMPORT/EXPORT ??? (1)
2:0.55.49 Successfully received anthony brown,10:30 PM 7/5/94=94,scripting
control panels... (1)
2:0.58.21 Successfully received [e-mail]=94, 4:14 PM 7/5/94=94,Nor=
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40 camping experience (1)
2:1.0.56 Successfully received Data,11:35 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: Kill Faceless
Processes (1)
2:1.8.13 Successfully received Data,12:57 AM 7/6/94=94,Control Strip Modules
Archive Site (1)
2:1.10.43 Successfully received John Welch, 8:55 PM 7/5/94=94,Re: How much i=
s
a Tek 2213 scope worth? (1)
2:1.13.59 Successfully received Chuck Adams, 1:55 AM 7/6/94=94,QRP=
 AFIELD-1994 (1)
2:1.16.47 Successfully received Michael Stein     =94,11:14 PM 7/5/94=94,re:
LM386 noise? (more) (1)
2:1.19.56 Successfully received TOM,10:09 AM 7/6/94=94,FmPro Templates (1)
2:1.34.11 Successfully received Adam C. Engst,10:32 PM
7/5/94=94,TidBITS#233/04-Jul-94 1/2 (2)
2:1.36.48 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:50 AM 7/6/94=94,Off (1)
2:1.39.18 Successfully received Michelle Preston, 6:03 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Analyzing checkboxes (1)
2:1.41.42 Successfully received Mark J Schreiner, 8:03 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
=46ield Day Results (1)
2:1.44.19 Successfully received Michael S. Dooley, 8:28 AM 7/6/94=94,Meeting
other QRPers (1)
2:1.46.50 Successfully received Timothy Scott,12:55 AM 7/7/94=94,Re: FmPro
Templates (1)
2:1.49.12 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 1:34 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
Wed Jul 06 08:14:10 1994
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1:0.2.22 Sending I want more $2000/week administrators!
<[e-mail].E, Re: Toroid questions......
1:0.8.59 Succeeded.
1:0.12.43 Sending anthony brown, Re: scripting control panels....
1:0.20.46 Succeeded.
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ror.
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2:0.46.6 Successfully received James M Fitton +1 =94, 1:48 PM
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meeting (1)
2:0.52.9 Successfully received Daniel C Halbert,10:28 AM 7/6/94=94,Re: QRP
library comments (1)
2:0.58.48 Successfully received Mark Alldritt, 8:34 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Debugging an applet properly (1)
2:1.1.28 Successfully received [e-mail],11:08 AM 7/6/94=94,IOTA
Contest??? (1)
2:1.4.13 Successfully received Muenzler, Kevin,10:24 AM 7/6/94=94,RE: LM386
noise? (1)
2:1.7.7 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 8:48 AM 7/6/94=94,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
2:1.10.26 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94, 8:56 AM 7/6/94=94,Tor=
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questions..... (1)
2:1.13.30 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94, 8:56 AM
7/6/94=94,Performance comparisons (1)
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7/6/94=94,antenna tuners, etc. (1)
2:1.19.54 Successfully received [e-mail].=94, 8:55 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:=
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386 (1)
2:1.23.39 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=94, 8:55 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
"Balanced" L Nets? (1)
Wed Jul 06 11:44:23 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (1)
2:0.9.30 Successfully received W. Daniel, 6:39 PM 7/6/94=94,Keyer to mail (1=
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Wed Jul 06 13:36:07 1994
2:0.0.4 halcyon.com 110 (9)
2:0.4.8 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=94, 1:21 PM 7/6/94=94,Recei=
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design (1)
2:0.6.44 Successfully received Kevin Purcell,10:47 AM 7/6/94=94,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
2:0.9.26 Successfully received Data, 1:47 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Need real text
editor (1)
2:0.11.58 Successfully received 1.7f, 3:24 PM 7/6/94=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.14.49 Successfully received Dr. Barrett Stridi=94,10:26 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:0.17.17 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:18 AM 7/7/94=94,Keyer (1)
2:0.21.54 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 3:50 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:0.27.16 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 1:28 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Tek 2213 =
(1)
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1:0.2.19 Sending W. Daniel, Re: Keyer.
1:0.24.28 Succeeded.
1:0.28.0 Sending [e-mail], Re: Tek 2213.
1:0.36.38 Succeeded.
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2:0.48.12 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=94, 1:21 PM
7/6/94=94,Receiver design (1)
2:0.52.50 Successfully received Kevin Purcell,10:47 AM 7/6/94=94,Re: Toroid
questions..... (1)
2:0.56.39 Successfully received Data, 1:47 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Need real text
editor (1)
2:1.1.2 Successfully received 1.7f, 3:24 PM 7/6/94=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:1.6.42 Successfully received Dr. Barrett Stridi=94,10:26 AM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:1.11.3 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:18 AM 7/7/94=94,Keyer (1)
2:1.13.44 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 3:50 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:1.22.39 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 1:28 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Tek 2213 =
(1)
2:1.29.25 Successfully received Jamie Lawrence, 1:04 PM 7/6/94=94,wierd
variable substitution problem (1)
Wed Jul 06 13:55:08 1994
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Wed Jul 06 16:06:31 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (10)
2:0.3.16 Successfully received Data, 4:44 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Need real text
editor (1)
2:0.5.48 Successfully received Neil McKenzie, 2:10 PM 7/6/94=94,HP
Oscilloscope (was: Yard Sale) (1)
2:0.10.0 Successfully received [e-mail],12:39 PM 7/4/94=94,Applescrip=
t
development kit (1)
2:0.13.5 Successfully received David Brown, 5:04 PM 7/6/94=94,Applescripting
Serial Port (1)
2:0.16.0 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94, 9:36 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:0.19.46 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 2:53 PM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Oscilloscpope (1)
2:0.22.21 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol, 2:51 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Nee=
d
real text editor (1)
2:0.24.45 Successfully received Doug Hendricks, 1:26 PM 7/6/94=94,PW Back
issues. (1)
2:0.30.41 Successfully received Neil Christie,10:59 PM 7/6/94=94,How to paus=
e
in scripts (trying to script mail operations) (1)
2:0.33.56 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:15 PM 7/4/94=94,Re:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
Wed Jul 06 16:15:17 1994
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1:0.28.31 Sending [e-mail], Re: Applescript development kit.
1:0.35.14 Succeeded.
Wed Jul 06 16:41:37 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (4)
2:0.4.49 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 4:16 PM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.7.34 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:18 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.10.9 Successfully received christopher edward=94, 7:21 PM 7/6/94=94,Exce=
l
Macros --> Turning blanks into "Blank" (1)
2:0.12.41 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:22 AM
7/7/94=94,Scriptable Finder docs (1)
Wed Jul 06 16:45:14 1994
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1:0.32.0 Succeeded.
Thu Jul 07 08:27:13 1994
8:0.0.3 Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: wierd variable substitution problem
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Thu Jul 07 08:44:11 1994
2:0.0.4 halcyon.com 110 (23)
2:0.2.32 Successfully received 1.7f, 7:47 PM 7/6/94=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.5.0 Successfully received Chris Etesse, 8:39 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Excel
Macros --> Turning blanks into "Blank" (1)
2:0.9.48 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard,10:26 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Excel Macros --> Turning blanks into "Blank" (1)
2:0.12.7 Successfully received Jeff Jones, 5:31 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: LM 386 (1)
2:0.15.28 Successfully received Mark Duffield,10:07 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:0.18.25 Successfully received Mike Cohen, 6:42 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Applescrip=
t
development kit (1)
2:0.21.49 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94, 2:18 PM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Need real text editor (1)
2:0.24.23 Successfully received Boris Levitin,10:29 PM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Debugging an applet properly (1)
2:0.27.29 Successfully received Rich Coulombre, 8:36 AM 7/5/94=94,Re: Thanks
for the checkbox analysis (1)
2:0.30.24 Successfully received Malcolm Pradhan, 8:10 PM 7/6/94=94,Re: Need
real text editor (1)
2:0.32.47 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94, 3:16 PM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.41.34 Successfully received Christopher Allen, 5:42 PM 7/6/94=94,UPDATE:
Everyday AppleScript(tm) Contest Winners (1)
2:0.45.47 Successfully received INRA000,11:54 PM 7/6/94=94,Re[2]: working
with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:0.48.13 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:05 PM 7/6/94=94,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:0.50.57 Successfully received W. Daniel,12:48 PM 7/7/94=94,Mini Keyer (1)
2:0.54.56 Successfully received James Jennings, 2:02 AM 7/7/94=94,SW
Developer's Workshop, July 9, 1994 (1)
2:0.59.1 Successfully received David Boroditsky, 8:48 AM 7/7/94=94,Re(2):
Need real text editor (1)
2:1.2.56 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:10 AM 7/7/94=94,Re: wierd
variable substitution problem (1)
2:1.5.59 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:12 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Scriptable Finder docs (1)
2:1.9.13 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:14 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Applescript development kit (1)
2:1.12.23 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:28 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Scripting FileMaker Pro (1)
2:1.15.4 Successfully received Frank Lowney, 9:39 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Applescripting Serial Port (1)
2:1.17.21 Successfully received Justin Rains, 7:08 AM 7/7/94=94,For Sale: MF=
J
9040 & HTX-100 (1)
Thu Jul 07 08:50:45 1994
8:0.0.2 read
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8:0.0.2 ALRT 1024
8:0.2.23 Dismissed with 1.
Thu Jul 07 10:30:51 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (1)
2:0.2.9 Successfully received Neil McKenzie, 9:40 AM 7/7/94=94,HP O'scope
specs (1)
Thu Jul 07 12:52:08 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (8)
2:0.2.14 Successfully received prvalko,12:18 PM 7/7/94=94,Seeking PowerMite =
1
Help! (1)
2:0.14.38 Successfully received Chuck Adams,11:18 AM 7/7/94=94,July Issue (1=
)
2:0.21.35 Successfully received Jason Penn,11:30 AM 7/7/94=94,Another NorCal
40 Lives! (1)
2:0.24.26 Successfully received John F. Woods, 1:13 PM 7/7/94=94,40-40
questions (1)
2:0.28.52 Successfully received christopher edward=94,10:00 AM 7/7/94=94,Exc=
el:
Selecting cell and adding text to it (1)
2:0.32.45 Successfully received Jamie Lawrence,11:30 AM 7/7/94=94,stopping a
moving train (1)
2:0.37.4 Successfully received Robert Burns,12:37 PM 7/7/94=94,Shapeware
Usability Test (1)
2:0.40.36 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 6:49 AM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Scripting FileMaker Pro (1)
Thu Jul 07 16:29:57 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.44 Sending Andy, stopping a moving train.
1:0.8.41 Succeeded.
2:0.15.37 halcyon.com 110 (10)
2:0.20.33 Successfully received Pete 'Happy' Thomas, 2:39 PM
7/7/94=94,MacPGP2.6 (1)
2:0.24.55 Successfully received Pete 'Happy' Thomas, 3:15 PM 7/7/94=94,Got i=
t
all (1)
2:0.29.19 Successfully received Pete 'Happy' Thomas, 2:52 PM
7/7/94=94,follow-up to encrypting-scripting (1)
2:0.31.36 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 3:40 PM 7/7/94=94,Re:
stopping a moving train (1)
2:0.34.10 Successfully received anthony brown, 4:07 PM 7/7/94=94,anoth fmpro
scripting question... (1)
2:0.51.8 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=94, 2:15 PM
7/7/94=94,Info-Mac Digest V12 #94 1/3 (3)
2:0.53.30 Successfully received WalrathW,11:25 PM 7/7/94=94,Re: stopping a
moving train (1)
2:0.56.2 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 5:27 PM 7/7/94=94,Re: anoth
fmpro scripting question... (1)
2:0.58.10 Successfully received George Dobbs G3RJV,10:44 PM 7/7/94=94,G QRP
CLUB (1)
2:1.0.19 Successfully received George Dobbs G3RJV, 1:14 AM 7/7/94=94,Re: QRP
library comments (1)
=46ri Jul 08 08:07:56 1994
2:0.0.4 halcyon.com 110 (20)
2:0.3.29 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:05 AM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Excel: Selecting cell and adding text to it (1)
2:0.6.39 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 4:10 PM 7/7/94=94,Re: stoppin=
g
a moving train (1)
2:0.9.6 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 4:10 PM 7/7/94=94,Re: anoth
fmpro scripting question... (1)
2:0.12.30 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:13 AM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Scriptable Finder docs (1)
2:0.15.5 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:18 AM 7/8/94=94,Re:
stopping a moving train (1)
2:0.19.4 Successfully received Jeremy Peter Howard, 9:17 AM 7/8/94=94,Re:
wierd variable substitution problem (1)
2:0.21.24 Successfully received [e-mail], 6:50 PM 7/7/94=94,Re[2]:
working with nonscriptable applic. (1)
2:0.24.36 Successfully received Dewi Williams, 1:18 AM 7/8/94=94,AppleScript
heritage problems (1)
2:0.29.31 Successfully received Andy Kington, 5:43 PM 7/7/94=94,Re: Scriptin=
g
=46ileMaker Pro (1)
2:0.32.8 Successfully received "Sean Carton (Theo=94, 9:13 PM 7/7/94=94,Open
Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability (1)
2:0.35.14 Successfully received Richard L. Upchurch, 9:54 PM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Open Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability (1)
2:0.38.2 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 8:23 PM 7/7/94=94,Re:
AppleScript heritage problems (1)
2:0.40.58 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 8:29 PM 7/7/94=94,Re: Open
Doc/MacMosaic/Scriptability (1)
2:0.43.57 Successfully received Chris Etesse,12:43 AM 7/8/94=94,Re: Excel:
Selecting cell and adding text to it (1)
2:0.48.28 Successfully received Mark Alldritt,10:05 PM 7/7/94=94,Re: How to
pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations) (1)
2:0.51.21 Successfully received Tilmann Robbe, 1:47 PM 7/8/94=94,Replacing a=
n
element of a string (1)
2:0.55.34 Successfully received Sabatucci, Joe, 8:14 AM 7/8/94=94,Filemaker
Pro scripting (1)
2:0.58.39 Successfully received Steve Alex, 7:38 AM 7/8/94=94,Re: How to
pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations) (1)
2:1.1.16 Successfully received Andrew Maier, 3:02 PM 7/8/94=94,Choosing a
printer form a script (1)
2:1.5.8 Successfully received David Brown,10:05 AM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Applescripting Serial Port (1)
1:1.5.55 halcyon.com 25
1:1.8.8 Sending Andy, Shapeware Usability Test.
1:1.15.53 Succeeded.
1:1.16.56 Sending dBug-SIG, Shapeware Usability Test.
1:1.36.16 Succeeded.
=46ri Jul 08 09:45:34 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.2 Sending Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: Scriptable Finder docs.
1:0.12.17 Succeeded.
1:0.13.22 Sending Macintosh Scripting Systems, Re: Applescripting Serial Por=
t.
1:0.22.35 Succeeded.
2:0.26.53 halcyon.com 110 (6)
2:0.29.46 Successfully received TOM FORD - DUPONT =94,11:40 AM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Calculation Field Problem (1)
2:0.32.37 Successfully received Kevin A. Gemeinhart,11:49 AM
7/8/94=94,FileMaker / ApplesScript Reference Books? (1)
2:0.34.53 Successfully received David Flory, 7:59 AM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Calculation Field Problem (1)
2:0.37.35 Successfully received JOHN TIPPETT, (919=94,12:01 PM
7/8/94=94,Summary of counts (1)
2:0.41.13 Successfully received Piers Stainforth,12:21 PM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Summary of counts (1)
2:0.47.37 Successfully received Kim-Son Tran,12:40 PM 7/8/94=94,ccMail
Scripting (1)
=46ri Jul 08 13:54:18 1994
2:0.0.3 halcyon.com 110 (15)
2:0.2.53 Successfully received 1.8a,12:47 PM 7/8/94=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.6.34 Successfully received 1.8a,12:47 PM 7/8/94=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
2:0.9.55 Successfully received Jason Penn,10:22 AM 7/8/94=94,Revised Tale of
My NorCal 40 (1)
2:0.13.1 Successfully received Daniel R. Auchincl=94,10:16 AM
7/8/94=94,Calculation Field Problem (1)
2:0.15.34 Successfully received Cea Dorn,12:47 PM 7/8/94=94,Question about I=
F
statements (1)
2:0.19.27 Successfully received Evert Halbach,11:07 AM 7/8/94=94,20 mtrs
"Shrinking" (1)
2:0.22.50 Successfully received Frank Concannon, 1:17 PM 7/8/94=94,Measuring
Idle time under AppleScript (1)
2:0.27.16 Successfully received Timothy Scott,12:12 AM 7/9/94=94,Re:
Calculation Field Problem (1)
2:0.30.38 Successfully received Bruce Higgins, 2:37 PM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Calculation Field Problem (1)
2:0.33.15 Successfully received Ferranti Rick, 2:00 PM 7/8/94=94,Two Classic
HF QRP rigs for sale (1)
2:0.36.7 Successfully received WYNN C C, 2:00 PM 7/8/94=94,ARCI Contest (1)
2:0.39.1 Successfully received mike hurley, 3:31 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: Measuring
Idle time under AppleScript (1)
2:0.41.52 Successfully received [e-mail].=94,11:21 AM 7/8/94=94,Re[=
2]:
LM 386 (1)
2:0.46.41 Successfully received Dennis Birch, 1:37 PM 7/8/94=94,"Is there a
file?" command (1)
2:0.49.56 Successfully received Chuck Adams, 2:20 PM 7/8/94=94,QRP ARCI
HomeBrew Sprint Sunday (1)
=46ri Jul 08 13:55:14 1994
8:0.0.0 read
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8:0.0.0 ALRT 1024
8:0.3.1 Dismissed with 1.
8:0.5.56 read
8:0.5.56 Trash
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=46ri Jul 08 14:30:46 1994
1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
8:0.49.27 45
8:0.49.27 ALRT 1022
8:0.52.58 Dismissed with 1.
1:1.13.52 Sending Evert Halbach, Re: 20 mtrs "Shrinking".
8:2.14.6 That pesky MacTCP is acting up again.
8:2.14.6 5
8:2.14.7 The connection timed out.
8:2.14.7 {37:110}
8:2.14.7 ALRT 1005
8:2.17.50 Dismissed with 1.
2:2.39.21 halcyon.com 110 (3)
2:2.43.34 Successfully received Peter Hardie, 1:44 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: QRP ARCI
HomeBrew Sprint Sunday (1)
2:2.53.7 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol, 1:54 PM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Measuring Idle time under AppleScript (1)
2:2.59.6 Successfully received David Boroditsky,11:07 AM 7/6/94=94,Need real
text editor (1)
=46ri Jul 08 14:33:56 1994
8:0.0.0 ALRT 1036
8:0.0.14 Dismissed with -1.
=46ri Jul 08 14:39:24 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.3.3 Sending Evert Halbach, Re: 20 mtrs "Shrinking".
1:0.16.33 Succeeded.
1:0.17.32 Sending [e-mail], Re: Re[2]: LM 386.
1:0.30.52 Succeeded.
1:0.31.26 Sending Dennis Birch, Re: "Is there a file?" command.
1:0.42.52 Succeeded.
1:0.43.26 Sending sage![e-mail], Re: Need real text editor.
1:0.56.6 Succeeded.
=46ri Jul 08 15:04:19 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (2)
2:0.2.34 Successfully received LMail release 1.2a=94, 5:40 PM
7/8/94=94,Undelivered mail (1)
2:0.5.48 Successfully received 1.8a, 5:42 PM 7/8/94=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
=46ri Jul 08 15:07:06 1994
8:0.0.0 read
8:0.0.0 Trash
8:0.0.1 ALRT 1024
8:0.1.58 Dismissed with 1.
=46ri Jul 08 15:29:12 1994
1:0.0.1 halcyon.com 25
1:0.1.55 Sending AppleScript, Why don't script objects have elements?.
1:0.9.38 Succeeded.
=46ri Jul 08 15:57:24 1994
2:0.0.0 halcyon.com 110 (1)
2:0.3.16 Successfully received 1.8a, 6:31 PM 7/8/94=94,Output of your job
"MACSCRPT" (1)
=46ri Jul 08 15:57:42 1994
8:0.0.1 read
8:0.0.1 Trash
8:0.0.1 ALRT 1024
8:0.5.52 Dismissed with 1.
Mon Jul 11 08:08:02 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (78)
2:0.5.40 Successfully received Kevin Purcell, 2:39 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: Re[2]: L=
M
386 (1)
2:0.9.55 Successfully received David Lewis, 5:15 PM 7/8/94=94,OSA Menu and
=46rontier (1)
2:0.15.42 Successfully received Barry Chern, 8:49 PM 7/8/94=94,Last word and
beyond (Quark) (1)
2:0.23.57 Successfully received [e-mail], 9:46 PM 7/8/94=94,Re:
Replacing an element of a string (1)
2:0.30.13 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:25 AM 7/8/94=94,MC1350 Noise (1=
)
2:0.39.52 Successfully received Boris Levitin,10:47 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: Choosin=
g
a printer form a script (1)
2:0.55.47 Successfully received Boris Levitin,11:31 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: "Is
there a file?" command (1)
2:1.7.28 Successfully received Mike!, 8:35 PM 7/8/94=94,Macintosh Consultant
Job Opening at Notre Dame, Indiana, USA (1)
2:1.13.1 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 9:32 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: OSA Men=
u
and Frontier (1)
2:1.20.25 Successfully received [e-mail],12:40 AM 7/9/94=94,Re:
killing backgroup applications (1)
2:1.28.30 Successfully received [e-mail],12:42 AM 7/9/94=94,Re:
Killing Faceless Background Apps (1)
2:1.39.14 Successfully received anthony brown, 1:47 AM 7/9/94=94,is there a
way to hide background apps? (1)
2:1.47.43 Successfully received Mike Cohen,10:57 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: OSA Menu
and Frontier (1)
2:1.52.8 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94, 9:59 PM 7/8/94=94,Re:
"Balanced" L Nets? (1)
2:2.1.25 Successfully received Jason Penn,11:12 PM 7/8/94=94,N9RPT's First
NorCal 40 QSO (1)
2:2.11.13 Successfully received Todd Hooper, 2:43 PM 7/9/94=94,Filemaker -
thanks! (1)
2:2.24.44 Successfully received Jon Pugh,12:11 AM 7/9/94=94,Re: Script=
 Objects (1)
2:2.31.9 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:53 AM 7/9/94=94,20M Shrinking (1=
)
2:2.43.35 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:42 AM 7/9/94=94,Sample SPRAT (1=
)
2:2.48.51 Successfully received W. Daniel,11:17 AM 7/9/94=94,LM386 (1)
2:2.55.22 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:26 AM 7/9/94=94,40-40=
 spur (1)
2:2.59.30 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:46 AM 7/9/94=94,LM386
replacement (1)
2:3.3.9 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,10:47 PM 7/7/94=94,Re QRP
Library Comments (1)
2:3.7.55 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,10:54 PM 7/8/94=94,Review my
article? (1)
2:3.18.19 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,11:06 PM 7/8/94=94,Interest
in Milliwatt? (1)
2:3.21.35 Successfully received Andrew Maier, 4:17 PM 7/9/94=94,Turning
AppleTalk on and off from a script (1)
2:3.25.56 Successfully received George Synowiec,10:12 AM 7/9/94=94,The
Scriptable Finder (1)
2:3.34.25 Successfully received John Welch,11:53 AM 7/9/94=94, (1)
2:3.39.37 Successfully received Dennis Birch, 1:37 PM 7/9/94=94,Re: "Is ther=
e
a file?" command (1)
2:3.43.0 Successfully received Barry Chern, 4:34 PM 7/9/94=94,msg.=
 formatting (1)
2:3.48.12 Successfully received David Lewis, 2:37 PM 7/9/94=94,Re: OSA Menu
and Frontier (1)
2:3.54.6 Successfully received David Ray, 3:59 PM 7/9/94=94,Re: MacPGP2.6 (1=
)
2:3.59.27 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 6:04 PM 7/9/94=94,Re: The
Scriptable Finder (1)
2:4.2.26 Successfully received prvalko, 8:29 PM 7/9/94=94,MFJ Audio
Improvement? (1)
2:4.5.25 Successfully received James Speer, 9:44 PM 7/9/94=94,Re: MFJ Audio
Improvement? (1)
2:4.8.9 Successfully received Michael S. Dooley, 9:51 PM 7/9/94=94,SWR Bridg=
e
from Doug Demaw in CQ (1)
2:4.11.5 Successfully received [e-mail],11:08 PM 7/9/94=94,Thanks to
K5FO..... (1)
2:4.17.3 Successfully received [e-mail],11:09 PM 7/9/94=94,QRP Club
Address List (1)
2:4.21.38 Successfully received Doug Hendricks, 8:17 PM 7/9/94=94,NorCal 40
MiniKits (1)
2:4.28.38 Successfully received Paul G Smith, 7:46 PM 7/7/94=94,Re:
Applescripting Serial Port (1)
2:4.35.36 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:06 AM 7/10/9=94,IM QD GX
Printing (1)
2:4.41.49 Successfully received W. Daniel, 2:32 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: MFJ Audio
Improvement? (1)
2:4.47.20 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol,12:11 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: OSA
Menu and Frontier (1)
2:4.50.29 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol,12:12 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: The
Scriptable Finder (1)
2:4.55.25 Successfully received Bruce Toback,12:40 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: 40/15m
rigs? (1)
2:5.0.22 Successfully received W. J. Proffer,11:47 AM
7/10/9=94,Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:5.6.31 Successfully received Jon Pugh, 1:33 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: Turning
AppleTalk on and off from a script (1)
2:5.14.41 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94,10:32 AM 7/11/9=94,Re:=
 is
there a way to hide background apps? (1)
2:5.19.55 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94,10:37 AM 7/11/9=94,Re:
msg. formatting (1)
2:5.24.4 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 6:00 PM 7/10/9=94,Re
Milliwatt (1)
2:5.28.42 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 5:53 PM 7/10/9=94,Missing
digests? (1)
2:5.32.25 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 8:21 PM 7/10/9=94,MFJ audi=
o
comment (1)
2:5.36.44 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 8:25 PM 7/10/9=94,New
packet address (1)
2:5.42.11 Successfully received [e-mail],11:08 PM 7/10/9=94,Re:
Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:5.46.47 Successfully received [e-mail]=94,10:49 PM 7/10/9=94,Fie=
ld
Day (better late than...) (1)
2:5.54.35 Successfully received Kiran Wagle,12:38 AM 7/11/9=94,Script Editor=
 (1)
2:5.57.46 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 9:43 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: msg.
formatting (1)
2:6.2.16 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94, 4:46 PM 7/11/9=94,Re:
Script Editor (1)
2:6.5.36 Successfully received John W. Baxter,10:00 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: Script
Editor (1)
2:6.11.8 Successfully received Kee Nethery +1 510=94,10:04 PM 7/10/9=94,Re:
Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:6.15.12 Successfully received [e-mail]=94,11:02 PM
7/10/9=94,NE570s, DCRs and other doodads (1)
2:6.18.33 Successfully received Jon Pugh,10:38 PM 7/10/9=94,Re:
Scripting/Events for QuickTake Camera Application (1)
2:6.23.58 Successfully received W. Daniel,11:35 AM 7/11/9=94,MC1350 input
impedance (1)
2:6.26.21 Successfully received Jeff Jones,10:02 PM 7/10/9=94,QRP really doe=
s
work! (1)
2:6.29.4 Successfully received Oliver Muoto,11:42 PM 7/10/9=94,Re: Script
Editor (1)
2:6.32.44 Successfully received Tom Kerns,11:50 PM 7/10/9=94,MFJ 9020 loud
Tx/Rx switch (1)
2:6.35.43 Successfully received Michael Silva, 1:06 AM 7/11/9=94,Re: MC1350
input impedance (1)
2:6.38.38 Successfully received W. Daniel, 3:43 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: NE570s, DCR=
s
and other doodads (1)
2:6.41.40 Successfully received W. Daniel, 4:21 PM 7/11/9=94,MC1350 vs.=
 MC1490 (1)
2:6.45.17 Successfully received WEBSTER_KER@CSUSYS=94, 5:21 AM 7/11/9=94,40/=
40
- How do I get one? (1)
2:6.47.56 Successfully received David Habermann, D=94, 7:19 AM
7/11/9=94,Scripting MacHTTP (1)
2:6.52.2 Successfully received Dave Fitch,12:21 PM 7/11/9=94,Looking for ope=
n
windows in scriptable finder (1)
2:6.54.25 Successfully received Evert Halbach, 7:06 AM 7/11/9=94,Re: 20 mtrs
"Shrinking" (1)
2:6.57.19 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:11 AM 7/11/9=94,Re:
Scripting MacHTTP (1)
2:7.0.10 Successfully received simon, 3:16 PM 7/11/9=94,AScript to do networ=
k
copy? (1)
2:7.4.12 Successfully received Stephen Trier,12:46 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: NE570s,
DCRs and other doodads (1)
2:7.7.9 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes,10:25 AM 7/11/9=94,Re: Looking
for open windows in scriptable finder (1)
2:7.10.28 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=94, 8:57 AM
7/11/9=94,Receiver Noise (1)
Mon Jul 11 10:38:45 1994
8:0.0.4 read
8:0.0.4 Trash
8:0.0.4 ALRT 1024
8:0.2.30 Dismissed with 1.
Mon Jul 11 13:09:40 1994
1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.29 Sending qrp, Re: Receiver Noise.
8:1.10.54 That pesky MacTCP is acting up again.
8:1.10.54 5
8:1.10.54 The connection timed out.
8:1.10.54 {37:110}
8:1.10.54 ALRT 1005
8:1.30.42 Dismissed with 1.
1:1.30.42 Failed (601).
8:3.8.6 Server not responding.
8:3.8.6 -23015
8:3.8.6 The connection came up halfway and then failed.
8:3.8.6 {37:93}
8:3.8.6 ALRT 1005
8:3.33.41 Dismissed with 1.
Mon Jul 11 13:13:19 1994
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8:1.37.3 The connection came up halfway and then failed.
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Mon Jul 11 13:46:48 1994
1:0.0.2 halcyon.com 25
1:0.8.25 Sending qrp, Re: Receiver Noise.
1:0.17.13 Succeeded.
1:0.20.37 Sending W. Daniel, Re: LM386.
1:0.38.15 Succeeded.
1:0.39.0 Sending Mike Czuhajewski, Re: Review my article?.
1:0.45.8 Succeeded.
1:0.45.45 Sending Mike Czuhajewski, Re: Interest in Milliwatt?.
1:0.54.55 Succeeded.
1:0.55.29 Sending Bruce Toback, Re: 40/15m rigs?.
1:1.10.40 Succeeded.
1:1.11.13 Sending Rick Spanbauer, Re: 2213.
1:1.18.27 Succeeded.
Mon Jul 11 13:48:27 1994
2:0.0.1 halcyon.com 110 (13)
2:0.2.39 Successfully received W. Daniel, 8:06 PM 7/11/9=94,MC1350 noise (1)
2:0.10.12 Successfully received John F. Woods, 9:54 AM 7/11/9=94,Re: 40-40
spur (1)
2:0.18.8 Successfully received Leonard Rosenthol, 9:41 AM 7/11/9=94,Re:
Script Editor (1)
2:0.20.42 Successfully received John F. Woods,11:08 AM 7/11/9=94,transmit
mixers (1)
2:0.24.16 Successfully received [e-mail],10:10 AM 7/11/9=94,RE:
LM386 Hiss (1)
2:0.28.28 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=94, 9:10 AM 7/11/9=94,OHR
Keyer Question (1)
2:0.32.11 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=94,12:59 PM 7/11/9=94,Aud=
io
Amp (1)
2:0.34.47 Successfully received [e-mail],10:57 AM 7/11/9=94,LM380
Correction... (1)
2:0.37.35 Successfully received [e-mail].=94, 9:47 AM 7/11/9=94,Aud=
io
output chips article (1)
2:1.25.42 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=94, 7:23 AM
7/11/9=94,Info-Mac Digest V12 #95 1/4 (4)
2:2.1.48 Successfully received The Info-Mac Moder=94, 7:33 AM
7/11/9=94,Info-Mac Digest V12 #96 1/3 (3)
2:2.4.33 Successfully received B. Bruce Brinson,12:37 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: Scrip=
t
Editor (1)
2:2.7.45 Successfully received Greg Buhyoff, 1:45 PM 7/11/9=94,FT 690r-MKII =
(1)
Mon Jul 11 16:30:52 1994
1:0.0.4 halcyon.com 25
1:0.3.11 Sending John F. Woods, Re: transmit mixers.
1:0.11.54 Succeeded.
2:0.21.28 halcyon.com 110 (8)
2:0.26.2 Successfully received Daniel Hagerty, 1:53 PM 7/11/9=94,Re:
Applescripting Serial Port (1)
2:0.28.50 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 1:45 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: Script
Editor (1)
2:0.31.36 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 1:55 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: 40/15m
rigs? (1)
2:0.34.4 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=94,12:52 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: =
QRP
Club Address List (1)
2:0.38.44 Successfully received Kevin Purcell, 1:47 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: Receive=
r
Noise (1)
2:0.41.35 Successfully received Doug Baron, 3:17 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: OSA Menu
and Frontier (1)
2:0.49.25 Successfully received Doug Baron, 3:17 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: OSA Menu
and Frontier (1)
2:0.54.5 Successfully received Rick Spanbauer, 6:41 PM 7/11/9=94,EBO (1)
Mon Jul 11 16:38:30 1994
1:0.0.6 halcyon.com 25
1:0.23.23 Sending Bruce Toback, Re: 40/15m rigs?.
1:1.11.37 Succeeded.
1:1.13.54 Sending mikero, Re: OSA Menu and Frontier.
1:1.30.55 Succeeded.
Mon Jul 11 17:07:31 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (2)
2:0.3.35 Successfully received Brian Hall, 4:33 PM 7/11/9=94,Free Space? (1)
2:0.6.49 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 5:02 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: 40/15m
rigs? (1)
Tue Jul 12 08:19:58 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (14)
2:0.3.45 Successfully received John Welch, 7:00 AM 7/11/9=94, (1)
2:0.6.22 Successfully received George Dobbs G3RJV,10:31 AM 7/11/9=94,G QRP
CLUB RENEWALS (1)
2:0.9.16 Successfully received Mike Cohen, 5:55 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: OSA Menu an=
d
=46rontier (1)
2:0.13.47 Successfully received anthony brown, 8:57 PM 7/11/9=94,frontmost
and listboxes... (1)
2:0.17.0 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 6:25 PM 7/11/9=94,Re: OSA Men=
u
and Frontier (1)
2:0.22.22 Successfully received Larry Mull, 6:09 PM 7/11/9=94,First portable
QSO's (1)
2:0.28.21 Successfully received Digidesign, Evan B=94, 7:04 PM
7/11/9=94,MacApp, CodeWarrior, and MI (1)
2:0.32.38 Successfully received FWORKS.ED@applelin=94, 1:59 AM
7/12/9=94,FrameWorks Call for Authors (1)
2:0.35.15 Successfully received MACAPP.ADMIN@apple=94, 3:58 AM 7/12/9=94,Res=
end
question 2 MACAPP3TECH$ (1)
2:0.37.57 Successfully received Jon Pugh,12:17 AM 7/12/9=94,Re:
OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript (1)
2:0.40.50 Successfully received Herb Schilling, 6:08 AM 7/12/9=94,Re:
frontmost and listboxes... (1)
2:0.59.13 Successfully received Adam C. Engst, 9:12 PM
7/11/9=94,TidBITS#234/11-Jul-94 1/2 (2)
2:1.6.48 Successfully received John Schettino, 8:46 AM 7/12/9=94,Re:
frontmost and listboxes... (1)
2:1.11.37 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:20 AM 7/12/9=94,Re: Free
Space? (1)
Tue Jul 12 12:37:26 1994
2:0.0.2 halcyon.com 110 (13)
2:0.5.22 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:14 AM 7/12/9=94,Re:
OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript (1)
2:0.7.52 Successfully received John F. Woods,10:29 AM 7/12/9=94,Signal
Generators (1)
2:0.10.54 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:23 AM 7/12/9=94,Re: LM386 (1)
2:0.24.35 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 9:20 AM 7/12/9=94,FaceSpan v=
s
do script "foo" (1)
2:0.29.8 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 7:40 AM 7/12/9=94,Decoding
archives? (1)
2:0.34.59 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:23 AM 7/12/9=94,Re: LM386 (1)
2:0.38.10 Successfully received  Jim Osburn, 8:44 AM 7/12/9=94,Pogo Stick
Revisited (1)
2:0.41.27 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 9:39 AM 7/12/9=94,Re:  Signal
Generators (1)
2:0.45.41 Successfully received Chuck Adams,12:00 PM 7/12/9=94,I'm Back (1)
2:0.48.14 Successfully received [e-mail]=94,12:49 PM
7/12/9=94,archive files from think.com (1)
2:0.52.5 Successfully received m.e.hartwell, 1:19 PM 7/12/9=94,Signal
Generators (1)
2:0.56.38 Successfully received Frank Lowney, 3:20 PM 7/12/9=94,Why does thi=
s
recorded script fail? (1)
2:0.59.47 Successfully received Ray Anderson,10:40 AM 7/12/9=94,Re: Decoding
archives (1)
Tue Jul 12 13:51:52 1994
1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
1:0.3.28 Sending [e-mail], Re: archive files from
think.com.
1:0.12.58 Succeeded.
1:0.14.12 Sending Microsofties, Apple(who)Care(s).
1:0.27.29 Succeeded.
Tue Jul 12 13:53:04 1994
2:0.0.0 halcyon.com 110 (5)
2:0.2.19 Successfully received John F. Woods, 2:15 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: Signal
Generators (1)
2:0.7.52 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,11:03 AM 7/12/9=94,Bal.
tuners, balun in (1)
2:0.10.27 Successfully received Ray Anderson,11:20 AM 7/12/9=94,Decompressin=
g
compressed archive files (1)
2:0.13.24 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=94, 2:37 PM 7/12/9=94,sig=
nal
generator (1)
2:0.15.49 Successfully received renee diehl, 4:09 PM 7/12/9=94,how about thi=
s
one? (1)
Tue Jul 12 14:45:39 1994
1:0.0.3 halcyon.com 25
1:0.2.8 Sending renee diehl, Re: how about this one?.
1:0.17.22 Succeeded.
1:0.20.22 Sending Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD), Re: signal generator.
1:0.26.25 Succeeded.
2:0.29.50 halcyon.com 110 (4)
2:0.32.20 Successfully received mirgate_mailer_dae=94, 1:50 PM 7/12/9=94,mai=
l
problem (1)
2:0.34.57 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 4:48 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: Why
does this recorded script fail? (1)
2:0.37.55 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,12:11 PM 7/12/9=94,I'm
Back (1)
2:0.40.10 Successfully received rohrwerk@holonet.n=94,12:11 PM=
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Thu Jul 14 08:22:47 1994
2:0.0.6 halcyon.com 110 (103)
2:0.3.42 Successfully received John F. Woods, 4:46 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: Sprint (=
1)
2:0.6.3 Successfully received Bruce Robertson, 4:37 PM 7/12/9=94,connectors
and W7EL wattmeter (1)
2:0.8.53 Successfully received janderson@polycom.=94, 1:51 PM 7/12/9=94,Re:
Bal. tuners, balun in (1)
2:0.12.5 Successfully received Kevin Purcell, 1:52 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: archive
files from think.com (1)
2:0.14.36 Successfully received [e-mail], 6:29 PM 7/12/9=94,Frontmost
Info (1)
2:0.18.20 Successfully received Mark E Gustoff, 2:20 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: Sprint=
 (1)
2:0.22.54 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:00 PM 7/12/9=94,Re:
OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript (1)
2:0.26.16 Successfully received James Speer, 4:55 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: connector=
s
and W7EL wattmeter (1)
2:0.29.49 Successfully received "Lawrence D'Olivei=94,11:39 AM 7/13/9=94,Re:
OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript (1)
2:0.33.32 Successfully received renee diehl, 8:09 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: how about
this one? (1)
2:0.37.23 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:02 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: Receiver
Noise (1)
2:0.43.20 Successfully received WYNN C C, 7:14 PM 7/12/9=94,ARCI HB Sprint
scoring (1)
2:0.45.45 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 4:46 PM 7/12/9=94,Hamfest
Shopping List (1)
2:0.48.59 Successfully received W. Daniel, 2:38 AM 7/13/9=94,21 keyer boards
to mail tomorrow (1)
2:0.51.42 Successfully received W. Daniel, 1:02 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: Receiver
Noise (1)
2:0.54.6 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:17 PM 7/12/9=94,.Z files (=
1)
2:0.57.0 Successfully received [e-mail], 8:27 PM 7/12/9=94,.Z files
again (1)
2:1.0.43 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 2:03 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: Hamfest
Shopping List (1)
2:1.4.2 Successfully received Andrea Dunn, 2:11 PM 7/13/9=94,naming layouts =
(1)
2:1.6.51 Successfully received Jon Pugh,10:47 PM 7/12/9=94,Lee Buck &
=46aceSpan in DDJ (1)
2:1.15.8 Successfully received Jon Pugh,10:47 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: MACSCRPT
Digest - 11 Jul 1994 to 12 Jul 1994 (1)
2:1.17.34 Successfully received W. Daniel,10:04 AM 7/13/9=94,Gone for a few
days (1)
2:1.22.0 Successfully received [e-mail]=94, 9:58 PM 7/12/9=94,thum=
b
tacks (1)
2:1.28.59 Successfully received George Katele, 4:29 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: naming
layouts (1)
2:1.31.37 Successfully received John Welch, 9:42 PM 7/12/9=94,Re: Signal
Generators (1)
2:1.34.22 Successfully received S. Taylor, 7:48 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: naming
layouts (1)
2:1.36.46 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 8:59 AM 7/13/9=94,Re:
=46rontmost Info (1)
2:1.40.34 Successfully received Lee Hoong, 9:05 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: Frontmost
Info (1)
2:1.43.2 Successfully received JOHN TIPPETT, (919=94, 9:21 AM 7/13/9=94,Auto
lookup and fill-in (1)
2:1.46.33 Successfully received Timothy Scott,12:08 AM 7/14/9=94,Re: Auto
lookup and fill-in (1)
2:1.49.4 Successfully received TOM FORD - DUPONT =94, 9:54 AM 7/13/9=94,Re:
Auto lookup and fill-in (1)
2:1.51.39 Successfully received John F. Woods, 9:10 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: ARCI HB
Sprint scoring (1)
2:1.58.12 Successfully received Steve Holden, 7:59 AM 7/13/9=94,Launch
AppleScript with Mosaic 2.0a2? (1)
2:2.2.2 Successfully received Michael S. Dooley, 8:50 AM 7/13/9=94,higher
bands (1)
2:2.5.2 Successfully received m.e.hartwell, 9:40 AM 7/13/9=94,antenna=
 supports (1)
2:2.7.37 Successfully received Clark Fishman (FSA=94,10:22 AM 7/13/9=94, (1)
2:2.10.38 Successfully received Duane P Mantick, 9:35 AM 7/13/9=94,Re:
AC4HF/P/M/QRP (1)
2:2.14.37 Successfully received Brien Pepperdine,10:31 AM 7/13/9=94,Norcal 4=
0
finals (1)
2:2.18.16 Successfully received Roy Rapoport, 8:59 AM 7/13/9=94,Hey, wait a
second! (1)
2:2.21.3 Successfully received Dennis Birch, 3:49 PM 7/8/94=94,Re: "Is there
a file?" command (1)
2:2.23.29 Successfully received 10465::M405142, 9:31 AM 7/13/9=94,AGC for
NN1G, Neophyte receivers.... (1)
2:2.26.33 Successfully received m.e.hartwell,11:37 AM 7/13/9=94, (1)
2:2.28.59 Successfully received "Dave Griffin, Fer=94, 1:23 PM
7/13/9=94,MACSCRPT FAQ? (1)
2:2.31.32 Successfully received John F. Woods,12:02 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: Norcal
40 finals (1)
2:2.34.10 Successfully received Desmond K. Mullen,12:51 PM 7/13/9=94,Re:
Macintosh Consultant Job Opening at Notre Dame, Indiana, U (1)
2:2.36.37 Successfully received Roger Traylor, 9:22 AM 7/13/9=94,Plessey
SL6440 mixer - source? (1)
2:2.40.49 Successfully received Stephen Lee, 9:25 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: Norcal 40
finals (1)
2:2.43.15 Successfully received Mark Kenney,12:22 PM 7/13/9=94,SIGNOFF FMPRO=
 (1)
2:2.46.23 Successfully received Steve Huey, 2:25 PM 7/13/9=94,cancel (1)
2:2.49.1 Successfully received Peter Jennings,10:09 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: .Z file=
s
again (1)
2:2.52.7 Successfully received "Robert E. Easton =94,11:44 AM
7/13/9=94,Unwanted reception (1)
2:2.54.16 Successfully received Eric Swartz WA6HHQ,10:02 AM 7/13/9=94,Re:
Norcal 40 finals (1)
2:2.57.16 Successfully received Fred Terry, 2:00 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: Macintosh
Consultant Job Opening at Notre Dame, Indiana, U (1)
2:2.59.54 Successfully received Chuck Adams,12:25 PM 7/13/9=94,2SC799 (1)
2:3.2.26 Successfully received Roy Rapoport,12:36 PM 7/13/9=94,AS 1.1 (1)
2:3.6.0 Successfully received Michael Bendio (un=94,12:12 PM 7/13/9=94,Re:
Norcal 40 finals (1)
2:3.8.31 Successfully received Ray Anderson,11:37 AM 7/13/9=94,Re: unwanted
signals (1)
2:3.11.51 Successfully received Steve Huey, 5:02 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: AS 1.1 (1)
2:3.14.33 Successfully received David Lewis, 2:13 PM 7/13/9=94,Making
=46rontier wait for KeyQuencer (1)
2:3.17.38 Successfully received David Myers, 5:23 PM 7/13/9=94,Frontier:
controlling menubar objects (1)
2:3.20.50 Successfully received Borre Ludvigsen, 9:25 PM 7/13/9=94,Filtering
funny characters (1)
2:3.23.38 Successfully received Abner Dumoff, 5:36 PM 7/13/9=94,FaceSpan
error codes (1)
2:3.26.5 Successfully received Ted Albert, 4:00 PM 7/13/9=94,NAND Gate
transmitter ? (1)
2:3.29.57 Successfully received [e-mail], 7:00 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: (2)
=46rontmost Info (1)
2:3.32.25 Successfully received Brien Pepperdine, 5:48 PM 7/13/9=94,Re:=
 2SC799 (1)
2:3.36.47 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 7:58 AM 7/13/9=94,No
hamfest toroids! (1)
2:3.39.44 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:18 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: MACSCRPT
Digest - 11 Jul 1994 to 12 Jul 1994 (1)
2:3.42.53 Successfully received Michael Silva,12:59 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: thumb
tacks (1)
2:3.47.39 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:19 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: Frontier:
controlling menubar objects (1)
2:3.51.31 Successfully received Doug Baron, 4:19 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: Making
=46rontier wait for KeyQuencer (1)
2:3.54.36 Successfully received bruce.florip@amail=94, 3:28 PM 7/13/9=94,OHR=
-40
progress (1)
2:3.57.5 Successfully received m.e.hartwell, 3:10 PM 7/13/9=94,catalog (1)
2:4.0.55 Successfully received David Lewis, 5:07 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: Making
=46rontier wait for KeyQuencer (1)
2:4.4.11 Successfully received anthony brown, 9:17 PM 7/13/9=94,What's the
maximum size of a string in applescript/frontmost (1)
2:4.8.33 Successfully received Bruce Toback, 1:45 PM 7/13/9=94,Re:  NAND Gat=
e
transmitter ? (1)
2:4.14.5 Successfully received John W. Baxter, 7:28 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: What's
the maximum size of a string in applescript/frontmo (1)
2:4.18.58 Successfully received Wayne Burdick, 6:32 PM 7/13/9=94,Sierra=
 status (1)
2:4.21.54 Successfully received Dale L. Thomas, 7:55 PM 7/13/9=94,MACSCRPT (=
1)
2:4.26.39 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 1:11 AM 7/14/9=94,Re: NAND
Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:4.30.14 Successfully received David Myers,11:04 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: Frontier:
controlling menubar objects (1)
2:4.34.4 Successfully received Michael Silva, 5:22 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: NAND Gat=
e
transmitter ? (1)
2:4.37.28 Successfully received Michael Silva, 5:30 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: 2SC799 =
(1)
2:4.40.0 Successfully received [e-mail],10:31 PM 7/13/9=94,baluns,
tuners, etc. (1)
2:4.43.17 Successfully received [e-mail],10:56 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: 7.11=
0
marine bcster..... (1)
2:4.46.52 Successfully received Stephen Trier, 2:47 AM 7/14/9=94,Re: NAND
Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:4.50.10 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski,10:59 PM 7/13/9=94,Got
Archives! (1)
2:4.52.34 Successfully received [e-mail]=94, 1:33 AM 7/14/9=94,Is
that what you look like! (1)
2:4.56.40 Successfully received Michael Silva, 8:45 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: NAND
Gate transmitter ? (1)
2:5.0.52 Successfully received Stephen Lee,11:41 PM 7/13/9=94,Re: NAND Gate
transmitter ? (1)
2:5.4.50 Successfully received WalrathW,11:47 AM 7/14/9=94,Re: cancel (1)
2:5.7.55 Successfully received Kiran Wagle, 8:00 AM 7/14/9=94,Apple's
scripting packages (1)
2:5.10.13 Successfully received P J Roberts,12:02 PM 7/14/9=94,Info needed o=
n
J310 FETs (1)
2:5.12.51 Successfully received Jean Berthomieu, 2:45 PM 7/14/9=94,Re: AS=
 1.1 (1)
2:5.17.16 Successfully received Peter 'Happy' Thom=94, 9:07 AM 7/14/9=94,Re:=
 AS
1.1 (1)
2:5.19.35 Successfully received Greg Buhyoff, 7:53 AM 7/14/9=94,internet
reflector for eqip sales (1)
2:5.23.45 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:41 AM 7/14/9=94,Re: (2)
=46rontmost Info (1)
2:5.27.38 Successfully received Brian V. Hughes, 9:43 AM 7/14/9=94,Re: AS=
 1.1 (1)
2:5.31.34 Successfully received Nathaniel Comfort =94,10:05 AM
7/14/9=94,FMPro:changing layout on the fly (1)
2:5.34.48 Successfully received Muenzler, Kevin, 8:15 AM 7/14/9=94,RE: NAND
Gate Transmitter (1)
2:5.37.36 Successfully received Greg Francis, 7:48 AM 7/14/9=94,Opening a DA
from AppleScript? (1)
2:5.41.10 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 7:43 AM 7/14/9=94,SPRAT an=
d
QQ are out (1)
2:5.48.21 Successfully received Mike Czuhajewski, 7:48 AM 7/14/9=94,Show and
Tell in MD (1)
2:5.54.55 Successfully received Andy J. Williams,11:14 AM 7/14/9=94,MS:
Monthly Harrange (1)
Thu Jul 14 08:46:03 1994
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Thu Jul 14 08:49:00 1994
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Thu Jul 14 08:52:16 1994
8:0.0.3 read
8:0.0.3 Trash
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8:0.2.22 Dismissed with 1.
Thu Jul 14 08:54:42 1994
8:0.0.2 ALRT 1036
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Thu Jul 14 08:58:06 1994
8:0.0.4 ALRT 1001
8:0.4.59 Dismissed with 1.
Thu Jul 14 08:58:34 1994
8:0.0.0 =A5No Recipient=81, =A5No Subject=81
8:0.0.1 ALRT 1010
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Thu Jul 14 09:11:15 1994
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 15:26:26 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Michael Kerner <[e-mail]>
Subject:      IDLE question, good AS Text (not Tao)

Folks,

Two things (in reverse order of heading)
1) What is a good AS reference?  I've read Tao and it is jumbled, incomplete
(look up REST OF, TO and SCRIPT in the index) and generally not what I was
looking for.  Do I have to buy the AppleScript Language Reference to get
satisfaction?

2) I want to write an application that will sit there and do something
every time the machine goes idle.  It works at execute time, but that's it
(when I do ON IDLE...END IDLE).

Thanks.
--
Mikey
"With talent on loan from God - and half my brains tied behind my back to make
it fair." Rush Limbaugh
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 14:38:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeremy Finke <[e-mail]>
Subject:      books

Can anybody recomend a good piece of literature to learn about apple
scripting?  Also with apple scripts can I write scripts that install
software like apple does with there system softare?
Thanks!

Jeremy Finke               |  "The Universe is but one vast
[e-mail]       |   symbol of God."--Thomas Carlyle
                           *  "That, or it is one huge piece
                           *   of luck!:)"--Jeremy Finke
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 15:51:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: IDLE question, good AS Text (not Tao)
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Michael Kerner" at Jul 14, 94 03:26:26 pm

--Michael Kerner wrote:
>
>Two things (in reverse order of heading)
>1) What is a good AS reference?  I've read Tao and it is jumbled, incomplete
>(look up REST OF, TO and SCRIPT in the index) and generally not what I was
>looking for.  Do I have to buy the AppleScript Language Reference to get
>satisfaction?

    Well, I certainly like the AppleScript Language Guide (English
Dialect), but I've heard that Danny Goodman's Complete AppleScript is
good as well.

>2) I want to write an application that will sit there and do something
>every time the machine goes idle.  It works at execute time, but that's it
>(when I do ON IDLE...END IDLE).

    The "on idle" handler will execute the statements that reside within
it every 30 seconds, unless another time interval is passed to it by a
"return" command as the last command before the "end idle". This is not
the same as executing when the Mac has gone idle. I don't know how you
would accomplish that with the current AppleScript, although it's
supposed to be possible with a special Frontier UCMD. Also, if you want
an script to work properly with "on idle" you need to save it as a Stay
Open application.

-Hades
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 12:53:01 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      do Frontier assignments return a value?

Hi, John and Doug,

Given the syntactic similarities between Frontier and C, I wondered if you
had copied what is, IMO, one of C's most felicitous features: the fact that
assignments return a value. It seems to be the case, since I can execute an
assignment in the Quick Script window and see the result, but it isn't
anywhere I can find in the docs, so I didn't know if it was something I
could count on. Thanks.

        David

David Lewis     Seagate Technology      [phone]  [e-mail]
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 16:14:02 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         John Mah <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Writing OSAXen

I'm in the process of writing an OSAX. What I want to do is implement a
command in this format:

pause [mode on/off]

ie: if you don't include the "mode on" or "mode off" part, it will toggle
the current state.

Since I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this project (I'm a student, no
access to fancy Apple APDA docs or $$$ to spend), I have no idea how to
modify my 'aete' resource for the on/off parts (I've figured out how to add
the extra parameter, just not how to add "on" and "off"). Can anyone point
me to some sample source or documentation for implementing this kind of
behavior?

Thanks in advance,
- John

+------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| John P. Mah            | E-mail:     [e-mail] |
| Toilets 'R Us Software |                            author of ToadNews |
+------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 16:24:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Path To Me
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Roy S. Rapoport" at Jul 14, 94 11:30:28 am

--Roy S. Rapoport wrote:
>
>Is there any way for an Applescript script to find where it's
>located?

    Sure. You need to have the GTQ Scripting Library osaxen installed.
If you do, then use this command:

        file spec of (application info for (this application))

-Hades
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 08:58:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: OSAGetStorageType w/o AppleScript

John Baxter said:

>>Would a modified OSA Menu really provide any functions that Frontier
>>doesn't already provide with it's Finder menu and MenuSharing?
>
>Yes:  it would permit an application-specific menu-based group of scripts
>for an application which doesn't support Frontier-based menu sharing, on a
>system whose user hasn't installed AppleScript.

I said:

>Yes, but you'd still need the Component Manager. Not everybody has the
>Component Manager built into their system...

Jon Pugh said:

>AppleScript has version 1.5 built in.

'Nuff said...?

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:40:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: What's the maximum size of a string in applescript/frontmost

In reply to anthony brown <[e-mail]>, "John W. Baxter"
<[e-mail]> says:
>
>How big is your memory?

Memory may be the only limit for run-time _values_, but there may be a smaller
limit in the language for compile-time _literals_. I've been working on an
application which stores data in AOCE catalogs, and I'm also making it
scriptable and recordable as well. When the user selects a catalog folder to
open, I send myself an "odoc" event, with the direct parameter being the
DSSpec of the folder to open. When I record this event, I get something that
looks like

        open <<data diry massive_string_of_hex_digits>>

(I use 'diry' as the DescType for a DSSpec, since that's the same type the
Drag Manager uses.) Funnily enough, I can run the recorded script OK, but if I
make any change and try to recompile, I get the error message

        "Way too long, dude."

with the word "open" highlighted.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 14:55:23 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Path To Me

At 16:24 7/14/94 -0400, Brian V. Hughes wrote:
>--Roy S. Rapoport wrote:
>>
>>Is there any way for an Applescript script to find where it's
>>located?
>
>    Sure. You need to have the GTQ Scripting Library osaxen installed.
>If you do, then use this command:
>
>        file spec of (application info for (this application))

Cool.  So where can I find it?

:)
-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 17:06:23 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Path To Me
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:55:23 PDT"

>>>Is there any way for an Applescript script to find where it's
>>>located?
>>
>>    Sure. You need to have the GTQ Scripting Library osaxen installed.
>>If you do, then use this command:
>>
>>        file spec of (application info for (this application))
>
>Cool.  So where can I find it?
>
>:)
>-roy

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/osaxen/gtqscriptlib1.2.sit.hqx

Or something like that. I would be more certain, but gaea isn't responding at
the moment. Which also means that you'll need to wait for awhile until you can
get on.

pf
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 12:33:00 MET
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Guus C. Bloemsma" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Why does this recorded script fail?

> The offending line is:
>

> open file "Duo Dock HD:AppleScript=81 Utilities:Frontmost Release
Notes"

This is the way I got your mail. Maybe you should remove the
character after "AppleScript" in the file path?

Guus
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:15:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: IDLE question, good AS Text (not Tao)

Michael Kerner <[e-mail]> asks:

>1) What is a good AS reference?  I've read Tao and it is jumbled, incomplete
>(look up REST OF, TO and SCRIPT in the index) and generally not what I was
>looking for.  Do I have to buy the AppleScript Language Reference to get
>satisfaction?

For me, the question is a no-brainer. If I want to learn something new, the
first thing I get is the reference documentation. Any other tutorial and
"how-to" books come later.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 16:45:09 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Why does this recorded script fail?

>> The offending line is:
>>
>
>> open file "Duo Dock HD:AppleScript=81 Utilities:Frontmost Release
>Notes"
>
>This is the way I got your mail. Maybe you should remove the
>character after "AppleScript" in the file path?

Probably not...that =81 is the trademark symbol and is present on the
as-shipped AppleScript folder name.  Your mailer doesn't like the quoted
printable, or the sender of the message hasn't told listserv to behave, or
you read the digest.
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:33:30 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      another fmpro scripting question:

What is the scripting command that can be used to tell fmpro to search
for something?  I'm looking in the dictionary, yet I can't seem to find
anything to do that...  can anyone help?

Anthony

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*  Anthony Brown, Harvard University                                    *
*                                                                       *
*  "You need my love, baby oh so bad,                                   *
*  "You're not the only one I've ever had,                              *
*  "And if I say I wanna set you free,                                  *
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*  Gene Simmons circa 1976                                              *
*                                                                       *
*  The Dolphins will win the superbowl in '95!!!                        *
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Date:         Thu, 14 Jul 1994 20:34:40 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: another fmpro scripting question:

>What is the scripting command that can be used to tell fmpro to search
>for something?  I'm looking in the dictionary, yet I can't seem to find
>anything to do that...  can anyone help?

show

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 08:52:52 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Path To Me

>
>
_______________________________________________________________________________
> From: Macintosh Scripting Systems on Thu, 14 Jul, 1994 22:43
> Subject: Re: Path To Me
> To: Multiple recipients of list MACSCRPT
>
> --Roy S. Rapoport wrote:
> >
> >Is there any way for an Applescript script to find where it's
> >located?
>
>     Sure. You need to have the GTQ Scripting Library osaxen installed.
> If you do, then use this command:
>

For that matter, you could also use the Processes OSAX. The process info class
includeds as one of its fields the application's file.

-wayne

>         file spec of (application info for (this application))
>
> -Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 07:38:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Alex <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Path To Me

 ------ From: Macintosh Scripting Systems, Thu, Jul 14, 1994 ------

When I first saw this, I though it might of been a test! I don't think I have
any strange scripting additions (although I do have GTQ and a couple of
others), but in AS 1.1 the scripting additions command:

        path to FolderOrApplication

works with

        path to me


Steve Alex

Alabama Industrial Development Training
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 15:38:59 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject:      refcon in OSAX proc entry decl.

Given that the entry procedure for an OSAX has the following declaraction

pascal OSErr
MyAEHandlerFunction(AppleEvent  *theEvent,  AppleEvent  *theReply,
                                                 long   *theRefCon);

can anyone tell me how the refCon can be used, or if it ever is?

-wayne
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:57:12 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Chris Etesse <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Quick ? --> what the name of shareware UNIX app for Mac??

I hope you all can answer a quick question --
      I need to know what the name of a share ware Unix app for the Mac
might be called.

Thanks in advance

Chris Etesse
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 08:37:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Checking for the Existence of a Disk

At 11:55 7/14/94 -0700, Kevin Purcell wrote:
>>I'm using AppleScript together with Finder Liaison 1.1 to copy something
>>from a remote disk onto a local disk.  My problem is simple: I need either
>>A) a way to find whether the remote disk in question is mounted on the desk=
>top
>
>With the scriptable finder (the panacea!)
>
>tell application "Finder"
>        if disk "Berserker Base" exists then ... -- or
>        if exists disk "Berserker Base" then ...
>end tell

Actually, I've found an easier way (I should have searched more before
wasting y'all's time):

Given that I'm looking for a disk named "GPS2",

if (list disks) contains "GPS2" then ...

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:25:03 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Atul Butte <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: refcon in OSAX proc entry decl.

>Given that the entry procedure for an OSAX has the following declaraction
>
>pascal OSErr
>MyAEHandlerFunction(AppleEvent  *theEvent,  AppleEvent  *theReply,
>                                                 long   *theRefCon);
>
>can anyone tell me how the refCon can be used, or if it ever is?

I remember reading somewhere that in your OSAX, you can get yourself
as a handler, then set yourself as the handler again passing a new refcon.
That way, you can set up global variables...

However, I've never used the technique, so someone more experienced that I
should comment...

-- Atul
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Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:30:41 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: refcon in OSAX proc entry decl.

>Given that the entry procedure for an OSAX has the following declaraction
>
>pascal OSErr
>MyAEHandlerFunction(AppleEvent  *theEvent,  AppleEvent  *theReply,
>                                                 long   *theRefCon);
>
>can anyone tell me how the refCon can be used, or if it ever is?
>
>-wayne

Like all refcons (reference constant -- what a silly name) you can use
those 32 bits for whatever you want.

You provide it when you install the handler with:

iErr = AEInstallEventHandler(theAEEventClass,theAEEventID,handler,
                             handlerRefcon,isSysHandler)
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:28:13 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Checking for the Existence of a Disk

>At 11:55 7/14/94 -0700, Kevin Purcell wrote:
>>>I'm using AppleScript together with Finder Liaison 1.1 to copy something
>>>from a remote disk onto a local disk.  My problem is simple: I need either
>>>A) a way to find whether the remote disk in question is mounted on the desk=
>>top
>>
>>With the scriptable finder (the panacea!)
>>
>>tell application "Finder"
>>        if disk "Berserker Base" exists then ... -- or
>>        if exists disk "Berserker Base" then ...
>>end tell
>
>Actually, I've found an easier way (I should have searched more before
>wasting y'all's time):
>
>Given that I'm looking for a disk named "GPS2",
>
>if (list disks) contains "GPS2" then ...
>
>-roy
>
>Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
>510-540-5535 ext. 280
>"It Wasn't Me"

This brings up an interesting point: which is "better" 1, 2 or 3

tell application "Finder"
        if disk "Berserker Base" exists then ... -- 1
        if exists disk "Berserker Base" then ... -- 2
end tell

if (list disks) contains "Berserker Base" then ... -- 3

So we have to define a criterion for better: the one I use was stated in in
Develop 12, p59-60 where they point out that the Object model (as defined
by the dictionary) should map very closely to the users model of the
problem space i.e. the application objects should map directly to the
cognitive objects. Each of these cognitive objects has parts, behaviors and
properties.

What object model designers need to do is mimimise the distance between the
problem that the user is trying to solve and the expression of that problem
in some form that the computer can understand. The users script (what they
think of in their mind) is "is this volume mounted" or perhaps "does this
volume exist". This is intent must then be expressed in a form the computer
can understand with the less translation the better.

Which of the solutions meets this requirement best? I think 2 does.

Example 2 is better than 1 in that the expression is closer to natural
language. It also reads better (forms the correct idea in the mind more
readily).

Example 2 is better than expression 3 because you need to know that the
OSAX "list disks" returns a list of strings that represent the names of the
mounted volumes and then use contains the hunt for that list. This is an
algorithmic way of solving the problem, rather than "declarative" manner.

Some might argue that the tell block is intrusive. I would counter that by
saying that it is the Finders responsibility to look after volumes and
files in the same way that Scriptable Text Editor looks after words and
paragraphs

In general, I think it is better to have an application with a well though
out object model solve a group of releated problems than a partial solution
from an OSAX.

Comments?

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:47:15 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: refcon in OSAX proc entry decl.

>>Given that the entry procedure for an OSAX has the following declaraction
>>
>>pascal OSErr
>>MyAEHandlerFunction(AppleEvent  *theEvent,  AppleEvent  *theReply,
>>                                                 long   *theRefCon);
>>
>>can anyone tell me how the refCon can be used, or if it ever is?
>>
>>-wayne
>
>Like all refcons (reference constant -- what a silly name) you can use
>those 32 bits for whatever you want.
>
>You provide it when you install the handler with:
>
>iErr = AEInstallEventHandler(theAEEventClass,theAEEventID,handler,
>                             handlerRefcon,isSysHandler)
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Very true when you install the handler yourself.  Here, however, the
question's context is a Scripting Addition.  It appears that the handlers
are installed with a refcon equal to zero (that's what the handy AEHandler
FKEY says).

I don't know of a way to adjust that, but I could easily have missed
something, since I haven't felt any need to use the refcon in any of the
few Scripting Additions I've played with.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:07:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      The Unchosen One

I've got a problem: I've got an AS application that is supposed to be run
and then quit (well, everything is like that, I suppose :) ).  The problem
is, it's still selected, so when the user then double-clicks on another
thing (say, the alias to a server whose data I just backed up), both that
thing and the application open up again.

Basically, I need to tell the Finder to unselect the application.  Either
of these two methods:
A) Tell the Finder to unselect me
B) Tell the finder to select X (where 'X' is the name for another file on
the desktop)

will work for me...

Suggestions?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:50:55 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jack Greenwood <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Quick ? --> what the name of shareware UNIX app for Mac??

>I hope you all can answer a quick question --
>      I need to know what the name of a share ware Unix app for the Mac
>might be called.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Chris Etesse

In the spirit of Eudora, how 'bout Eunichs?

just kidding....

[e-mail]
Genentech, Inc.
Medical Affairs - Infectious Disease Division
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:42:38 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Books & Software

I'm looking for AppleScript stuff.  More specifically, I was just told by
the appropriate person to give them a list of what I want for AppleScript,
so they can approve it.  Basically, as I see it, the two things I want that
I need to buy are:

A) AS 1.1 and reference.  Apparently, 'The Applescript Language Guide'
doesn't come with AS 1.1,
    does it? Are there any references that do come with it?

B) Scriptable Finder -- that's available from APDA together with reference,
isn't it?

What else would y'all recommend (precluding stuff that's free and out there)?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:18:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Checking for the Existence of a Disk

At 11:28 7/15/94 -0700, Kevin Purcell wrote:

>tell application "Finder"
>        if disk "Berserker Base" exists then ... -- 1
>        if exists disk "Berserker Base" then ... -- 2
>end tell
>
>if (list disks) contains "Berserker Base" then ... -- 3
[...]
>Which of the solutions meets this requirement best? I think 2 does.
[...]
>In general, I think it is better to have an application with a well though
>out object model solve a group of releated problems than a partial solution
>from an OSAX.

Well, it sort of depends on what you're doing with it, doesn't it?

My background: I'm a former CS major (in other words, I didn't graduate),
working for a software company in their Finance Dept.  I'm using
AppleScript to do stuff like automation of backup procedures, etc.

Nobody but me will be editing these scripts -- heck, the scripts themselves
are saved as Run-Time only anyway.

Now, I don't do Natural Language -- it's one of the things that really
annoys me sometimes about AppleScript (though I would choose it over
Frontier for its syntax anyday).   I'm not looking for something that will
somehow satisfy Apple's concept of how AS scripts should be written -- I'm
looking for something that :
A) Works
B) Looks neat (not as in 'cool', but as in organized)
C) Is not overly verbose.

That's why, for example, I tend to avoid using words like 'is' when I can
avoid them, and why my routines are *NEVER* english-like -- I don't need
them to, they waste less space this way.

For me, and for my succinct, 'clever-wannabe' style, if I'm only going to
be going through the list of disks once, "if (list disks) contains
"Berserker Base" then" works better, and looks much less cluttered.

Of course, the fact I don't have the Scriptable Finder (yet) may also have
something to do with it :)

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:08:30 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jason Buberel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scripting telnet sessions with the TCP osax...

Atul & other TCP scripters...

I am trying (unsuccessfully) to script a simple telnet session (sending a
username and password).  I am using a modified version of Atul's finger
script, having changed the port number from 79 to 23.  After gaining the
connection, which works well, the script then waits for some text in the
stream.  What I expect to get back would be:   'login:', but what I do get
back is usually just 3 characters long, and totally unintelligible.  If
someone has already scripted a telnet session, could you please pass along
some sample code, or perhaps some hints?

thanks,

jason

ps  please don't tell me I have to read a bunch of RFCs :)
=============================================================
Jason L. Buberel   -=-  Graduate Student  -=-  Neuroscience Program
University of Illinois  -=-  [e-mail]  -=-  217.244.0115
=============================================================
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 19:13:31 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Chris Etesse <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Excel? --> Paste link and transpose???

I need to paste something from one document to another Worksheet. I can select
the column and then copy. Go to the other worksheet and hit Paste Special and c
lick on transpose. But, when I later claick on Paste Link I can only get the
first cell in all the new cells. Example:

     A
1  DOg
2  Dog
3  Cat



I need:
       A     B    C
1  Dog    Dog     Cat

and they must be all linked to the 1st worksheet, however I get:
       A     B    C
1  Dog    Dog     Dog
2  Dog    Dog     Dog
3  Dog    Dog     Dog

Any suggestions welcomed


Thanks in advance,

Chris Etesse
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:21:13 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: do Frontier assignments return a value?

>Hi, John and Doug,
>
>Given the syntactic similarities between Frontier and C, I wondered if you
>had copied what is, IMO, one of C's most felicitous features: the fact that
>assignments return a value. It seems to be the case, since I can execute an
>assignment in the Quick Script window and see the result, but it isn't
>anywhere I can find in the docs, so I didn't know if it was something I
>could count on. Thanks.
>
>        David
>

David,

Yes, every UserTalk statement has a value. The value of an assignment
statement is the RHS value. However, unlike C, UserTalk does _not_ allow a
statement to be used as an expression. So you can not say:

    if (x = 5)
         .....

Doug
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 10:24:29 +1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Danny Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: do Frontier assignments return a value?

Doug Baron <[e-mail]> writes:
>Yes, every UserTalk statement has a value. The value of an assignment
>statement is the RHS value. However, unlike C, UserTalk does _not_ allow a
>statement to be used as an expression. So you can not say:
>
>    if (x = 5)

insignificant nit-pick:
C also does not allow statements to be used as expressions (try using a
for(); as an expression), but it does differ from most other languages in
having assignments as _expressions_ which is what allows for multiple
assignments etc


cheers,
Danny Thomas  ([e-mail])
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 20:54:25 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: IDLE question, good AS Text (not Tao)

Michael Kerner <[e-mail]> asks:

>1) What is a good AS reference?  I've read Tao and it is jumbled, incomplete

The other major book is Danny Goodman's "Complete AppleScript Handbook"
(Random House, $35.00 list), and it is much more complete. For example, it
contains a clear answer to your second question.

>2) I want to write an application that will sit there and do something
>every time the machine goes idle.  It works at execute time, but that's it
>(when I do ON IDLE...END IDLE).

It should work whenever an idle message is sent to the applet SO LONG AS the
applet was compiled with the "stay open" flag set (check the checkbox in
Script Editor's Save As... dialog, that is). Also, the return statement optional
right before the END IDLE statement may optionally pass a number of seconds for
the System to wait before sending that applet another idle message. (If return
is used without a value, idle messages will be sent whenever the processor gets
around to servicing the applet under the Mac OS's reprehensible cooperative
multitasking arrangement.)

BTW, Goodman's book has ISBN 0-679-79148-5.

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 21:11:18 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: IDLE question, good AS Text (not Tao)

Brian V. Hughes <[e-mail]> was right, and I was wrong,
when responding to Michael Kerner's question about the idle handler.
Failure to include a return statement or its inclusion without a value
causes the next idle message to be sent to the applet in 30 seconds
instead of as soon as the processor is available. return 0 does the same.
However, return 1 has the effect Michael apparently wanted, repeating the idle
message as often as possible.

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 12:29:54 +0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Todd Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject:      TCP & MACSCRPT

Hi all

Someone mentioned a script (and presumably a matching OSAX) to
do TCP/IP. Is this freely available?

On another topic, is it common for people to post huge files to
the list, not to mention unrelated employment ads? Some of us out
here pay by the byte. I've spent $50 on net access in the last
week due to a number of huge mail items from various sources. I've
found the digest useful, but the last one still cost me a couple
of dollars!

Thanks,

Todd
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 15 Jul 1994 23:04:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript Finder Guide

New!  (first printing June 1994)

The AppleScript Finder Guide, English Dialect.

Addison Wesley.  ISBN 0-201-40910-0

   For scripting the Scriptable Finder, you will want this book.

Chapters are Introduction to Finder Scripting; Finder Objects; Finder
Commands.

Appendices:  Finder Commands at a Glance; Finder Errors

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 09:45:10 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Frank Lowney <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Refs to remote apps

On page 148 (Ch 5) of the AppleScript Language Guide there is what appears
to be a very lucid explanation of how one should refer to an application on
a remote machine.  I followed the directions exactly and, yet, the
following script fails with the error message "Can't get the application's
event dictionary".  This is an AppleScript error.

tell application "Scriptable Text Editor" of machine "YoYo"
activate
end tell

In that I am only using 2 Macs with PhoneNet connectors, there are no zones.

* Scriptable Text Editor is running (in the background) on the remote machine.
* Both computers are connected by an AppleTalk network.
* Program Linking is enabled on the remote computer.
* Access for me is enabled on the remote machine, including program linking.
* Program linking is enabled for the application on the remote machine.

I am able to successfully log on to the remote machine (get its icon on my
desktop).

I can use the Script Editor to view the remote application's dictionary.

I get the same result with ClarisWorks 2.1 as the target.

The script works just fine on my local machine.

So, the question is: "Why doesn't this work?"

*****************************************************************************
Dr. Frank Lowney, System Administrator
The GC EduNET Project (telnet to: gcedunet.peachnet.edu)
CBX 034
Georgia College, Milledgeville Georgia  310611
[phone]

*****************************************************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 08:45:01 PDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Riggins <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Sorry for the broadcast

How do I get off of this mailing list?  I tried sending unsubscribe to the
listserv, but it told me that it really didn't know who I was and to bugger
off.  It said that I might be part of another list being served to this
list.

I was originally on the Frontier scripting list, but I can't seem to find
of its details.

Info anyone?  Please email, so we don't flood the list.  Thanks!!!!

Steve Riggins

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Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 20:15:50 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christian Orellana <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations)

Hi all!

>
>You can set up a cron type application with the AS idle handler. For instance
>you can create a script application that does something every hour.
>
>        doSomething()
>                set x to ...
>                ...
>        end
>
>        on idle
>                doSomething()
>                return 3600
>        end
>
>I don't think there is any real overhead until the callback is made to the
>script.
>
>Steve Alex
>[e-mail]             Alabama Industrial Development Training

This works fine, except once the script contains the idle handler I can
find no reasonable way to end the "iddle handling" and much less abort the
script.
Any suggestions anyone (- can some special value be passed in the return
statement?).
This is even more obvious if the script contains a quit handler (usefull if
the script needs to close files etc. before quitting). In this case I see
no other way to quit the script than force quitting.
Help please!!

Best regards -
Christian A.Borlund Orellana
Institute of Physics and Astronomy Aarhus University.
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Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 14:02:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: IDLE question, good AS Text (not Tao)

>From:    Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>

>Brian V. Hughes <[e-mail]> was right, and I was wrong,
>when responding to Michael Kerner's question about the idle handler.
>Failure to include a return statement or its inclusion without a value
>causes the next idle message to be sent to the applet in 30 seconds
>instead of as soon as the processor is available. return 0 does the same.
>However, return 1 has the effect Michael apparently wanted, repeating the idle
>message as often as possible.

I'm afraid you're wrong again, Boris, but only a bit.  ;)

Returning 0 causes the last returned value to be used again.  If you return
a value any time you decide to increase or decrease your wait time, then
you can simply return 0 to keep using that time when you don't want to
change.

You just saw 30 because it was initialized to 30, which is the default value.

Once again, returning 0 from an idle handler causes the previous wait time
to be used.

Jon
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 14:02:20 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: refcon in OSAX proc entry decl.

>From: "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
>
>Very true when you install the handler yourself.  Here, however, the
>question's context is a Scripting Addition.  It appears that the handlers
>are installed with a refcon equal to zero (that's what the handy AEHandler
>FKEY says).
>
>I don't know of a way to adjust that, but I could easily have missed
>something, since I haven't felt any need to use the refcon in any of the
>few Scripting Additions I've played with.

Atul got it right, but was a little sparse in his info, so I'll answer
John's question more verbosely.

I haven't needed to do this yet, but it's an ideal trick for caching some
data across osax runs.  Your data will never get cleaned up, unless you
know when and how to get rid of it, but a good reboot will get rid of
anything.  ;)

There are two tricks involved.  The first is to get the current stuff for
your event class & id.  This gives you the proper osax event handler
address.  Then you can use a 0 value in the refcon to init yourself and
reinstall the new refcon.  The other trick is to allocate your structures
or objects in the system heap.  I'll leave most of that as an exercise for
the serious.

Here's the code:

err = AEGetEventHandler(&class, &eventID, &handlerPtr, &refcon, &isSysHandler);

if (refcon == 0) {

    oldZone = GetZone();
    SetZone(SystemZone());
    // create your data structures
    SetZone(oldZone);

    refcon = (long) this;           // for handy C++ object passing
    refcon = (long) &myGlobals;     // for generic struct passing

    err = AEInstallEventHandler(class, eventID ,handlerPtr, refcon,
          isSysHandler);
}

Jon
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 14:02:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: The Unchosen One

>From:    "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
>
>I've got a problem: I've got an AS application that is supposed to be run
>and then quit (well, everything is like that, I suppose :) ).  The problem
>is, it's still selected, so when the user then double-clicks on another
>thing (say, the alias to a server whose data I just backed up), both that
>thing and the application open up again.
>
>Basically, I need to tell the Finder to unselect the application.  Either
>of these two methods:
>A) Tell the Finder to unselect me
>B) Tell the finder to select X (where 'X' is the name for another file on
>the desktop)
>
>will work for me...

No they won't.  This is a Finder bug that is not fixed in the Scriptable
Finder. If you tell the finder to select another file on the desktop, it
will often leave the original item selected as well.  This sucks.  I would
welcome anyone with a solid solution.

Jon
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 01:04:18 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Some questions

Hi, if anyone has any suggestions, answers or comments they would be
greatly appreciated either through the list or by direct e-mail, Neil.

Q 1:   Does anyone know of away to set and get the label of a file?
       I have tried the finder v7.1.4 but it is no use, it also stopped me
       from printing, crashed Directory Assistance and refused to do various
       other things.

Q 2:   Regarding the use of the Audio CD osax, is there a simple way of
checking
       if the CD is playing, checking if the cd is an audio cd, setting the
       position to start playing from.

       I have managed to perform the first two of these tasks but not very
       elegantly way but I suppose at least it works.

       I have been assuming that a cd is a data cd if it has only one track
       and that it is playing if the result from two "status of audio CD"
       commands is different. These two commands are separated by a pause
       (something I only managed to do by getting AS 1.1 which took 1.5 hours to
       download on the Power PC speech disks)

       I know that there are some HyperCard xcmds that allow this but I'd
       rather stick to straight AppleScript if possible.

       Has anyone successfully used the optional "in drive parameter" of
       this osax? My scripts never compile if I try to include it.

Q 3:   Access the data entered by the user into Apple C.D Audio Player.

Q 4:   Utilise the features of sound manager v3. At present I can sometimes
       set the overall sound volume using Jon's Commands but that's all.

Q 5:   Does anyone know why AS support was taken out of ClarisWorks 2.1?


I found a way to solve some other questions that I had included in this
posting before I actually sent it. For example:
To see if there is a CD mounted the following code which needs the audio cd
osax works for me:

try
        status of audio CD
on error errtext number errNum
        if errNum is -65 then
                set cd_mounted to false
        else
                set cd_mounted to true
        end if
end try

P.S Thanks to everyone that answered my question about pausing scripts.

Thanks for your time and hopefully your suggestions.

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
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=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 1994 20:27:59 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Michel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: The Unchosen One
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Jon Pugh" at Jul 16,
              94 02:02:26 pm

> >From:    "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
> >
> >I've got a problem: I've got an AS application that is supposed to be run
> >and then quit (well, everything is like that, I suppose :) ).  The problem
> >is, it's still selected, so when the user then double-clicks on another
> >thing (say, the alias to a server whose data I just backed up), both that
> >thing and the application open up again.
> >
> >Basically, I need to tell the Finder to unselect the application.  Either
> >of these two methods:
> >A) Tell the Finder to unselect me
> >B) Tell the finder to select X (where 'X' is the name for another file on
> >the desktop)
> >
> >will work for me...
>
> No they won't.  This is a Finder bug that is not fixed in the Scriptable
> Finder. If you tell the finder to select another file on the desktop, it
> will often leave the original item selected as well.  This sucks.  I would
> welcome anyone with a solid solution.
>
> Jon
>

I've never had this problem, so maybe what I tested won't work for others,
but:

tell app "Finder"
   select {}
end tell

Deselected the file I had selected, and returned an empty list as the
result.
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 09:43:02 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

>Hi, if anyone has any suggestions, answers or comments they would be
>greatly appreciated either through the list or by direct e-mail, Neil.
>
>Q 1:   Does anyone know of away to set and get the label of a file?
>       I have tried the finder v7.1.4 but it is no use, it also stopped me
>       from printing, crashed Directory Assistance and refused to do various
>       other things.

You need the Scriptable Finder, which is any Finder 7.1 or later PLUS the
Finder Scripting Extension.  Or, most likely, some Scripting Addition or
other.  I don't see one on my machine, but I haven't searched hard.  It
doesn't seem to make sense to write new Additions for chores the Scriptable
Finder can do, since Scriptable Finder is available (for purchase) to all.

--John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 13:20:06 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations)

Christian Orellana <[e-mail]> writes:

>[idle handler] works fine, except [...] I can find no reasonable way to end
>the "idle handling" and [...] abort the script.

The command is "quit" (make sure it's not within a "tell <other app>" control
structure).

>if the script contains a quit handler [...] I see no other way
>to quit the script than force quitting.

After doing whatever cleanup you want in your quit handler, use the statement
"continue quit" right before the "end quit" line. That will pass the quit
message to the applet after the quit handler intercepts it and does its thing.

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 12:37:36 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Loren Peace <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Refs to remote apps

>On page 148 (Ch 5) of the AppleScript Language Guide there is what appears
>to be a very lucid explanation of how one should refer to an application on
>a remote machine.  I followed the directions exactly and, yet, the
>following script fails with the error message "Can't get the application's
>event dictionary".  This is an AppleScript error.
>
>tell application "Scriptable Text Editor" of machine "YoYo"
>activate
>end tell
>
>* Program linking is enabled for the application on the remote machine.
>

Have you enabled program linking on your machine, if I'm not mistaken it needs
to be enabled on both machines or else the programs won't run.

Loren Peace
[e-mail]
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Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 11:59:23 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: The Unchosen One

>From: Steve Michel <[e-mail]>
>
>>From: [e-mail] (Jon Pugh)
>>
>> No they won't.  This is a Finder bug that is not fixed in the Scriptable
>> Finder. If you tell the finder to select another file on the desktop, it
>> will often leave the original item selected as well.  This sucks.  I would
>> welcome anyone with a solid solution.
>
>I've never had this problem, so maybe what I tested won't work for others,
>but:
>
>tell app "Finder"
>   select {}
>end tell
>
>Deselected the file I had selected, and returned an empty list as the
>result.

Yeah, this is the simple case.  The real problem arises from selections
left over from drag & drops.  If you drag a file onto an application, that
file will be left selected and you will be unable to deselect it, even by
this method.

It's a bug in the core Finder code, which the Finder Scripting Addition
can't fix.

Jon
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Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 11:59:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to pause in scripts (trying to script mail operations)

>From:    Christian Orellana <[e-mail]>
>
>>You can set up a cron type application with the AS idle handler. For instance
>>you can create a script application that does something every hour.
>>
>>        doSomething()
>>                set x to ...
>>                ...
>>        end
>>
>>        on idle
>>                doSomething()
>>                return 3600
>>        end
>>
>>I don't think there is any real overhead until the callback is made to the
>>script.
>>
>>Steve Alex
>>[e-mail]             Alabama Industrial Development Training
>
>This works fine, except once the script contains the idle handler I can
>find no reasonable way to end the "iddle handling" and much less abort the
>script.
>Any suggestions anyone (- can some special value be passed in the return
>statement?).
>This is even more obvious if the script contains a quit handler (usefull if
>the script needs to close files etc. before quitting). In this case I see
>no other way to quit the script than force quitting.

You should be able to go to the Script Application's layer and type
Command-Q or select the Quit menu item.  You should also be able to issue
the quit command from inside your idle handler if you decide you should
quit.  You can also send a quit event from another application (such as the
Script Editor).

If you have a quit handler which won't quit, you can avoid the quit handler
by holding down the shift key when selecting the Quit menu or typing
Command-Shift-Q.  This is vital for debugging idle and quit handlers!

Jon
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Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 22:55:56 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Borre Ludvigsen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Grabbing video, how?
In-Reply-To:  <"alfie.uib..082:16.06.94.10.59.40"@uib.no>

I have a www-server page with controls for pan & tilt of a camera outputting
video
to CU-SeeMe (video teleconferencing sw) running on a Mac. In order to
return still video images to those who cannot receive direct video, I
need to do screen grabs of specific coordinate (CU-SeeMe is not
scriptable) and to save them to disk as GIF files with given names. Any
ideas?

- Barre

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
   Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold Regional College- N-1750 HALDEN - Norway
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 vox:[phone]/home+4769341922/direct+4769185577ext219fax:[phone]
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
   <A HREF="http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no/"> Visit our home! </A>
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Date:         Sun, 17 Jul 1994 19:42:00 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Tom Donovan <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Grabbing video, how?

>I have a www-server page with controls for pan & tilt of a camera outputting
>video
>to CU-SeeMe (video teleconferencing sw) running on a Mac. In order to
>return still video images to those who cannot receive direct video, I
>need to do screen grabs of specific coordinate (CU-SeeMe is not
>scriptable) and to save them to disk as GIF files with given names. Any
>ideas?
>
>- Barre
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold Regional College- N-1750 HALDEN - Norway
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> vox:[phone]/home+4769341922/direct+4769185577ext219fax:[phone]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   <A HREF="http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no/"> Visit our home! </A>

Barre,

Just a thought:  I'm not sure about this, but I think FlashIt! (a shareware
screen capture utility) allows grabbing just a portion of the screen.  If
it can, you could use a QuicKeys sequence (called from AppleScript) that
would send the FlashIt hotkey, then drag a rectangle on the screen to
capture it.  I'm not sure what would happen next, because I doubt FlashIt
can save as GIF.  Maybe you could use JPEGView?

Hope this helps--or maybe gives someone else out there a prompt.

--Tom
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 16:53:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Books & Software

"Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]> asks:

>I'm looking for AppleScript stuff.  More specifically, I was just told by
>the appropriate person to give them a list of what I want for AppleScript,
>so they can approve it.

Depending on how deeply you want to get into AppleScript, you might want
to get the AppleScript 1.1 developer's kit from APDA. This comes with all the
paper manuals and a CD-ROM containing all the software, Scriptable Finder,
online versions of Inside Mac, sample code, development tools, the works.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:14:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> writes:

>You need the Scriptable Finder, which is any Finder 7.1 or later PLUS the
>Finder Scripting Extension.

No. The Finder Scripting Extension version 1.1 works ONLY with Finder 7.1.3
or 7.1.4. It does NOT work with 7.1.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:18:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: The Unchosen One

Jon Pugh writes:

>>> No they won't.  This is a Finder bug that is not fixed in the Scriptable
>>> Finder. If you tell the finder to select another file on the desktop, it
>>> will often leave the original item selected as well.

>It's a bug in the core Finder code, which the Finder Scripting Addition
>can't fix.

Is this the same phenomenon I used to observe in pre-Scriptable Finder days?
I'd tell the the Finder to select something, but the previous selection would
remain highlighted. This was only a minor nuisance, because if I told the
Finder to do something with the selection, it would only act on what I'd
told it to be selected.

And if I clicked on something with the mouse, all the existing highlights would
disappear.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 00:31:38 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

>"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>You need the Scriptable Finder, which is any Finder 7.1 or later PLUS the
>>Finder Scripting Extension.
>
>No. The Finder Scripting Extension version 1.1 works ONLY with Finder 7.1.3
>or 7.1.4. It does NOT work with 7.1.

I stand by what I said on this one, Lawrence.

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 00:46:58 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: The Unchosen One

Jon sez:
>
>Yeah, this is the simple case.  The real problem arises from selections
>left over from drag & drops.  If you drag a file onto an application, that
>file will be left selected and you will be unable to deselect it, even by
>this method.
>
>It's a bug in the core Finder code, which the Finder Scripting Addition
>can't fix.

I drag a handy text file (not OSA.h) from the desktop onto SimpleText (in
an open folder which in turn is on the desktop).  I run this script:

tell application "Finder"
        activate
        set selection to item "OSA.h" of desktop
        selection
end tell

Finder 7.1.4 unhighlights the file I drag-and-dropped (drug-and-dropped??
dripped? ;-) ), highlights OSA.h, and returns

     {file "OSA.h" of application "Finder"}

Makes sense to me.  Is this a fix in 7.1.4 (which suggests also 7.1.3)?  Or
don't I understand the problem?

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 04:24:30 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Victor Jimenez <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "John W. Baxter" at Jul
              18, 94 00:31:38 am

If anyone know where , or has an updater to go from AppleScript 1.0 to
1.1 could they send me the info via Email?

Or If you have a version I can have send me it....
:)

Thank You In Advance
Victor Jimenez
[e-mail]
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:58:19 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jean Berthomieu <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Victor
              Jimenez" at Jul 18, 94 04:24:30 am

>
> If anyone know where , or has an updater to go from AppleScript 1.0 to
> 1.1 could they send me the info via Email?
>
You can download it from ftp.support.apple.com. Browse these directories in
Apple support till you reach the PlainTalk disks. You have to download 5
1.44 disks (!) but the whole AppleScript is bundled in this installation.
There are two other softwares in it, you may not need, (Speach recognition
-they dare say - and speach generation (Macintalk) - which IMHO runs better).
anyway since they use compressed files (Not Stuffit), its likely that you can't
cop out downloading the whole...
Well, in case you can't reach this ftp server, you can gopher it from
info.hed.apple.com (nearly the same directory path).

Good luck!

     Jean Berthomieu <[e-mail]>
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:48:16 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: refcon in OSAX proc entry decl.

> >Very true when you install the handler yourself.  Here, however, the
> >question's context is a Scripting Addition.  It appears that the

Yep, I was interested in the SA context. I figured as much for the case where
I'm installing the handlers from my own code.

> handlers
> >are installed with a refcon equal to zero (that's what the handy
> AEHandler
> >FKEY says).
> >
> >I don't know of a way to adjust that, but I could easily have missed
> >something, since I haven't felt any need to use the refcon in any of
> the
> >few Scripting Additions I've played with.
>
> I haven't needed to do this yet, but it's an ideal trick for caching
> some
> data across osax runs.

And this is what I was hoping to hear. I just wasn't sure how to get my data
into the refCon.

> know when and how to get rid of it, but a good reboot will get rid of
> anything.  ;)
>
> There are two tricks involved.  The first is to get the current stuff
> for
> your event class & id.  This gives you the proper osax event handler
> address.  Then you can use a 0 value in the refcon to init yourself and
> reinstall the new refcon.  The other trick is to allocate your
> structures
> or objects in the system heap.  I'll leave most of that as an exercise
> for
> the serious.
>
> Here's the code:
>
> err = AEGetEventHandler(&class, &eventID, &handlerPtr, &refcon,
> &isSysHandler);
>
> if (refcon == 0) {
>
>     oldZone = GetZone();
>     SetZone(SystemZone());
>     // create your data structures
>     SetZone(oldZone);
>
>     refcon = (long) this;           // for handy C++ object passing
>     refcon = (long) &myGlobals;     // for generic struct passing
>
>     err = AEInstallEventHandler(class, eventID ,handlerPtr, refcon,
>           isSysHandler);
> }
>
> Jon

Thanks to everyone who responded.

-wayne
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:46:40 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "John W. Baxter" at Jul 18, 94 00:31:38 am

--John W. Baxter wrote:
>
>>"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>>You need the Scriptable Finder, which is any Finder 7.1 or later PLUS the
>>>Finder Scripting Extension.
>>
>>No. The Finder Scripting Extension version 1.1 works ONLY with Finder 7.1.3
>>or 7.1.4. It does NOT work with 7.1.
>
>I stand by what I said on this one, Lawrence.

    I know this has been a fairly big debate on this list, but every
time I've tried to use FSE with a Finder older than 7.1.3 I get a
"Finder Scripting Extension is too new to be used with this Finder"
dialog box. YMMV, of course, but it sure doesn't seem to work with older
Finders.

-Hades
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 16:15:26 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

> From: Macintosh Scripting Systems on 18 Jul, 1994 16:12
> Subject: Re: Some questions
> To: Multiple recipients of list MACSCRPT
>
> --John W. Baxter wrote:
> >
> >>"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> writes:
> >>
> >>>You need the Scriptable Finder, which is any Finder 7.1 or later PLUS
> the
> >>>Finder Scripting Extension.
> >>
> >>No. The Finder Scripting Extension version 1.1 works ONLY with Finder
> 7.1.3
> >>or 7.1.4. It does NOT work with 7.1.
> >
> >I stand by what I said on this one, Lawrence.
>
>     I know this has been a fairly big debate on this list, but every
> time I've tried to use FSE with a Finder older than 7.1.3 I get a
> "Finder Scripting Extension is too new to be used with this Finder"
> dialog box. YMMV, of course, but it sure doesn't seem to work with older
> Finders.
>

and for what it's worth, I too got this message the other night when I tried to
install the FSE on my home IIci which has System 7.1 and Finder 7.1 installed.

-wayne
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 10:03:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: TCP & MACSCRPT

>On another topic, is it common for people to post huge files to
>the list

Apologies to all that suffered my Eudora log file.

It seems that Eudora really does mean "live dangerously" when it runs low
on memory. I have taken precautions to see that this does not happen again
(mostly by bumping the patition and taking the low memory messages
seriously).

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 10:29:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

Brian wrote

>--John W. Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> writes:
>>>
>>>>You need the Scriptable Finder, which is any Finder 7.1 or later PLUS the
>>>>Finder Scripting Extension.
>>>
>>>No. The Finder Scripting Extension version 1.1 works ONLY with Finder 7.1.3
>>>or 7.1.4. It does NOT work with 7.1.
>>
>>I stand by what I said on this one, Lawrence.
>
>    I know this has been a fairly big debate on this list, but every
>time I've tried to use FSE with a Finder older than 7.1.3 I get a
>"Finder Scripting Extension is too new to be used with this Finder"
>dialog box. YMMV, of course, but it sure doesn't seem to work with older
>Finders.

I surrender...it would appear that I haven't tried to install the *current*
Finder Scripting Extension against early 7.1 Finder versions.  And I'm not
going to bother installing a 7.1 system on a Syquest on my IIci to test.
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:46:14 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nikolaos Daniel Willmore <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Serious AS dilema: finding app.

The quest is for my scripts to only ask *once* where a program is, when I
give said scripts to people who will run it on their own computers, not
mine. Only trouble is user's have a different copy of the program so the
script refuses to lock on target and stop asking each time. This can be
shown to be using the following trick.

Set your app name to "Dummy App", and make something called "Dummy App" on
the Desktop (any old disposable application such as an AppleScript app).
Then save it as a run-only (doesn't matter actually -- same thing if isn't
run only, despite comments I heard to the contrary) application and *throw
away* "Dummy App". Now you can tell your *compiled* script whatever
application you want and it will *not* remember it. It will always keep
asking where is "Dummy App", every time you run it! This sucks, since the
program I link to seems to come in many related versions, so this situation
is really what it's like. And it's not just version numbers, it's also the
*same* identical program which they didn't get from me though, so an alias
to my copy given to them still wont recognize their copy.

tell application "Dummy App"
activate
end tell

...fails to remember where the new program is when you run the script and
point it at it. Thus you can use this instead:

set x to a reference to application "Dummy App"

tell x
activate
end tell

And it *does* remember the new application name, no problem.

Here's the bad news.

tell application "MacPGP"
activate
end tell

works fine, but again, wont remember where MacPGP *is* if the user has a
slightly different version or even just a copy from a different person than
I.

But when I try

set x to a reference to application "MacPGP"

tell x
execute "pgp -h"
end tell

I get an error and cannot even compile the script. It doesn't even ask
where MacPGP is. It just jumps in and says it expected an end of line at
the first quote mark. Gee, what an informative error message (-8. Grrrr.
Since the docs with the developer's kit has nearly no useful examples,
well, I'm stuck. It's most any normal application-defined scripting command
that causes this, not just "execute".

So what's the problem?

It is *not* checking the dictionary of MacPGP to interpret the tell
commands, it seems. Why not? Why would the docs say here's how to do this,
but not mention that you can only use generic commands?

In the docs, they place a lone "x" on a line by itself before their tell
statement, but don't TELL why they do this. Why place x on a line by
itself?!?! It has no effect.

Better yet, I'd like to have the scripts *never* ask where MacPGP is! The
Finder can "find" it when you double-click one of its documents, so why
can't Apple Script find an application, given it's signature? This makes
using Apple Script to write easy to use software not that useful. How would
you like it if everytime you wrote a program in C it prompted the user for
where the Finder was and where the System was?!

Should I try sending Apple Events instead of using Apple Script commands?
I know with a real AE, you can specify the application's signature and it
finds it. However, sending AE's from AS is not documented? It's *not* in
the Language Guide, but on p.83 and only as an aside, not how to use it.

I'm also having this problem with a FaceSpan stand-alone application, but
multilplied, since evey object that refers to MacPGP asks where is MacPGP
on startup! What a drag!!! Then it wont even remember for next time. Asking
the user six times in a row where MacPGP is everytime they run it, well I
might as well toss this thing in the trash (including the AS Dev Kit). What
am I missing?

 - Nik
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:45:10 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Refs to remote apps

Re: Controlling apps on remote machines, the following works for me:

tell application "Finder Liaison 1.0" of machine "Classic 15-6" of zone
"Rooms 15 & 16" to shutdown

This only works in Finder Liasion 1.1 is running on that machine but if it
is then the mac successfully shuts down.

I don't know if its because you didn't include the zone, maybe your network
is just one zone so it's unnecessary.

I hope this helps someone, Neil.

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:43:48 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Serious AS dilema: finding app.

[deleted the interesting AppleScript problem!]

>Here's the bad news.
>
>tell application "MacPGP"
>activate
>end tell
>
>works fine, but again, wont remember where MacPGP *is* if the user has a
>slightly different version or even just a copy from a different person than
>I.
>
>But when I try
>
>set x to a reference to application "MacPGP"
>
>tell x
>execute "pgp -h"
>end tell
>
>I get an error and cannot even compile the script. It doesn't even ask
>where MacPGP is. It just jumps in and says it expected an end of line at
>the first quote mark. Gee, what an informative error message (-8. Grrrr.
>Since the docs with the developer's kit has nearly no useful examples,

The problem in this particular case is that "execute" is not a command or
an addition (AS is parsing it as a variable -- you can see this if you
color different elements of the scripts in AppleScript formatting). If you
remove the string then this script will compile and give a run time error
"variable not defined".

Change "execute" to "launch" and all works fine. E.g. this runs on my mac:

set x to a reference to application "MacPGP"

tell x
        launch
end tell

>well, I'm stuck. It's most any normal application-defined scripting command
>that causes this, not just "execute".

This is evidently not the case.

But back to the original problem!

One way to work around the original problem is to ask the user only when
you can't find the application where you last left it. Save the reference
(an alias) to the application in the property of a script object that you
save in the preferences folder of the system folder (like all good apps
do!). When you start the script you load the script object, get the
alias(es), check that they exist, if they don't then ask the user to show
you where they are. The code is a SMOP (simple matter of programming).

Another (simpler) way is to make the variable (x in the above examples) a
property rather than a variable. This gives x persitance across runs. The
first time this is the null string and you ask the user where the app is.
Other times it will be an alias to the application. You should check that
the alias is still valid and if not ask the user where the application is.

For more information see Danny Goodmans book and the AppleScript Language guide.

Finally, it is a pain that users can change application names and scripters
need to locate applications, has anyone written the obvious osax to query
the desktop database (with PBDTGetAPPL) for an application name and or path
given a creator type (signature). Seems like we coiuld make use of it. In
fact it seems so simple I might have a stab at it.


Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:05:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Joe Lopez <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Refs to remote apps

>On page 148 (Ch 5) of the AppleScript Language Guide there is what appears
>to be a very lucid explanation of how one should refer to an application on
>a remote machine.  I followed the directions exactly and, yet, the
>following script fails with the error message "Can't get the application's
>event dictionary".  This is an AppleScript error.
>
>tell application "Scriptable Text Editor" of machine "YoYo"
>activate
>end tell
>
>In that I am only using 2 Macs with PhoneNet connectors, there are no zones.
>
>* Scriptable Text Editor is running (in the background) on the remote machine.
>* Both computers are connected by an AppleTalk network.
>* Program Linking is enabled on the remote computer.


By this I assume you mean that ,in the sharing setup control panel, program
linking is on. But is it on for the user id you are using to log in. It
could be turned off individually and I believe by default is off. Check the
users & groups control panel for that. This may be the problem although I
am somewhat new to Applescript.


>* Access for me is enabled on the remote machine, including program linking.
>* Program linking is enabled for the application on the remote machine.
>
>I am able to successfully log on to the remote machine (get its icon on my
>desktop).
>
>I can use the Script Editor to view the remote application's dictionary.
>
>I get the same result with ClarisWorks 2.1 as the target.
>
>The script works just fine on my local machine.
>
>So, the question is: "Why doesn't this work?"
>
>*****************************************************************************
>Dr. Frank Lowney, System Administrator
>The GC EduNET Project (telnet to: gcedunet.peachnet.edu)
>CBX 034
>Georgia College, Milledgeville Georgia  310611
>[phone]
>
>*****************************************************************************
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:16:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Jay M. Martin" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Refs to remote apps

I believe your problem may be that AppleScript is not installed on the
target machine. At least, that's the same error you get when it's not.

Jay

+-----------------------------------------------+
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|  +--------+    1444 Wazee Street, Suite 300   |
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 16:32:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Victor Jimenez <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]> from "Jean Berthomieu" at
              Jul 18, 94 12:58:19 pm

>
> >
> > If anyone know where , or has an updater to go from AppleScript 1.0 to
> > 1.1 could they send me the info via Email?
> >
> You can download it from ftp.support.apple.com. Browse these directories in
> Apple support till you reach the PlainTalk disks. You have to download 5
> 1.44 disks (!) but the whole AppleScript is bundled in this installation.
> There are two other softwares in it, you may not need, (Speach recognition
> -they dare say - and speach generation (Macintalk) - which IMHO runs better).
> anyway since they use compressed files (Not Stuffit), its likely that you
 can't
> cop out downloading the whole...
> Well, in case you can't reach this ftp server, you can gopher it from
> info.hed.apple.com (nearly the same directory path).
>
> Good luck!
>
>      Jean Berthomieu <[e-mail]>
>
I checked but I could find it...
If you could tell me the Directory that would be great.

Thank You
Victor Jimenez
[e-mail]
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 14:00:49 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

At 16:32 7/18/94 -0500, Victor Jimenez wrote:
>I checked but I could find it...
>If you could tell me the Directory that would be great.


ftp://ftp.austin.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/
Supplemental.System.SW/PlainTalk.for.PowerMac

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 14:53:12 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Serious AS dilema: finding app.

At 12:43 7/18/94 -0700, Kevin Purcell wrote:

>Finally, it is a pain that users can change application names and scripters
>need to locate applications, has anyone written the obvious osax to query
>the desktop database (with PBDTGetAPPL) for an application name and or path
>given a creator type (signature). Seems like we coiuld make use of it. In
>fact it seems so simple I might have a stab at it.

Yes, sort of.  Apple.  That is, with the Scriptable Finder, this script

tell application "Finder"
    application files of entire contents of desktop whose creator type is "T=
oys"
end tell

produces, on my machine

{file "Script Editor" of folder "AppleScript=81 Utilities" of disk "Blake" o=
f
application "Finder", file "Script Editor" of folder "Apple's Scripting
System" of folder "AppleScript=81 Setup" of folder "AppleScript 1.1" of
folder "Apple Extras" of startup disk of application "Finder", file "Script
Editor" of folder "AppleScript=81 Utilities" of startup disk of application
"Finder"}

[I didn't know I had so many (sigh!)]

The magic word there is "entire":  entire contents is quite different from
mere contents.

This takes a while (and risks running out of memory)...you might want to
pick the first one you come to, instead:

tell application "Finder"
    set theApp to ""
    repeat with vol in disks of desktop
        set foo to (application files of entire contents of vol whose
creator type is "ToyS")
        --              display dialog class of foo
        if class of foo is application file then -- found only one on the vo=
lume
            set theApp to foo
            exit repeat
        else
            if length of foo is not 0 then -- not found more than one on vol=
ume
                set theApp to item 1 of foo
                exit repeat
            end if
        end if
    end repeat
    return theApp
end tell

Producing, here:
file "Script Editor" of folder "AppleScript=81 Utilities" of disk "Blake" of
application "Finder"


(Unfortunately, on my particular setup, that has to scan a volume with many
files which does not contain a copy of Script Editor, so it still takes a
while...as it happens, doing a reverse of upon vols would help a lot, here,
for this particular case).

There's still room for a Scripting Addition.  --John  [=81 is trademark]

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 02:08:37 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christian Orellana <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Jon's commands vs. control strip

Hi!
Since I patched and installed my danish version of the "control strip"
control panel from Apple (included with the PowerBook 500's), I have been
unable to use the "finder selection" command from the "Jon's commands" osax
- my machine freezes or the application executing the script calling
"finder selection" quits.
Since I like both the osax and the control strip very much I am much
curious to know if this is a general problem, and if it can be fixed?
It might of course be a problem with the danish version of the control
strip, so if somebody has sucesfully called "finder selection" while having
the control strip installed please say so!


Best regards -
Christian A.Borlund Orellana
Institute of Physics and Astronomy Aarhus University.
______________________________________________________
Internet e-mail:        [e-mail]
voice:                  [phone]
mail:                   Dr.Margrethesvej 11,3.th.
                        8200 Aarhus N, DENMARK.
______________________________________________________
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:39:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> screams:

>I surrender...it would appear that I haven't tried to install the *current*
>Finder Scripting Extension against early 7.1 Finder versions.  And I'm not
>going to bother installing a 7.1 system on a Syquest on my IIci to test.

Ahhhh...that would explain why the current version of the extension is 1.1.

By the way, the reason why I was so quick to assume that the extension wouldn't
work (yes, I did later test it and confirm it for myself), was that _no_ other
Finder extension I knew of would work with both Finder 7.1 and 7.1.3/7.1.4.
Even the good old Network Extension had to come out in a new version, even
though it doesn't actually do anything different that I can tell.

Whatever the interface is for Finder extensions, Apple had to modify it
significantly to support things like QuickDraw GX and AOCE, and that broke
everything.

By the way, John, did that earlier version of the Scripting Extension support
recording? Just wondering if the extension interface revision was to add
support for something like that, too...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:47:51 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Douglas R. Peckham" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Compiling time
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know the relationship between the number of scripting
additions installed and the time it takes to compile a script?

Thanks.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Aaron Peckham                  Just because you're paranoid doesn't
[e-mail]       mean someone's not out to get you.
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:28:35 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

"Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]> is kind enough to point out
the location of the AppleScript 1.1 files within the PlainTalk distribution
on ftp.austin.apple.com.

Roy, do you know whether that AS distribution includes FaceSpan/Frontmost
(not just the extension, but the main module)? I wanted to find that out
before ftping and decompressing 7.5MB over our 56kb/sec link.

Thanks.
Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:41:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

At 12:39 7/19/94 +1200, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
wrote:
>Whatever the interface is for Finder extensions, Apple had to modify it
>significantly to support things like QuickDraw GX and AOCE, and that broke
>everything.
>

Yes...and Apple got tired of revving "everything", hence the "bungie
Finder", which presumably has some sort of table in a known location with
the various addresses Network Extension and some of the others need.  I
forget what "x" is in the sentence "The first 'bungie Finder' was 7.1.x."
You could work it out I suppose by noting when Network Extension stopped
changing its actual content.  Meanwhile, it's not that hard to work
backwards...to support bungie Finder and as many prior ones as you care to
(if "you" are Apple and have access to the internals).


>By the way, John, did that earlier version of the Scripting Extension support
>recording? Just wondering if the extension interface revision was to add
>support for something like that, too...

The first version of the Scriptable Finder I installed supported recording.
At this point, I'm unsure which one that was.  All other ones I've
installed also support it.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 20:07:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

At 22:28 7/18/94 -0400, Boris Levitin wrote:
>"Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]> is kind enough to point out
>the location of the AppleScript 1.1 files within the PlainTalk distribution
>on ftp.austin.apple.com.
>
>Roy, do you know whether that AS distribution includes FaceSpan/Frontmost
>(not just the extension, but the main module)? I wanted to find that out
>before ftping and decompressing 7.5MB over our 56kb/sec link.

It doesn't.  Pretty much, the only things I noticed including that were
relevant to AS (aside from some sample scripts) were:

A cooler Script Editor (slightly)
AppleScript System Extension v 1.1
A fairly big Scripting Additions Folder.

What the heck is FaceSpan and FrontMost, BTW?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:20:14 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Owen Watson <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Installation problems; TCP/IP link?

One easy query; one not so easy.

1. I've tried installing AppleScript 1.0 on my home IIsi (running 7.1); I
put the AS Extension in the Extensions folder together with the Scripting
Additions folder from my work machine, and Script Editor 1.0. When I try
and launch Script Editor or run a script, I get a message about the
scripting system not being properly installed. What else do I need? To
avoid cluttering up the list with a newbie question, please respond to me
directly on this one.

2. I'm trying to link 4th Dimension with a unix box over an Internet link.
At the moment it's calling 4D Client on my machine, which has some TCP
externals installed. A more satisfactory solution would be if there was a
small app or AS addition that converted TCP to AppleScript, which could
interrogate the server directly. Any suggestions?




-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Owen Watson, The Royal Society of NZ, PO Box 598, Wellington, New Zealand
Internet [e-mail]  Ph: [phone] Fax: [phone]
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 20:40:34 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Paul Spurgeon <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

The disk images from apple containing the AS v1.1 (along with PlainTalk
software) do not have Facespan/Frontmost included.

The installer included in the images does allow a custom installation of
the Applescript software though. All of the disk images are necessary for
the complete AS installation.

_____________________________________________________________
  Paul Spurgeon              /  Physio-Control Corporation
  [e-mail]  /  P.O. Box 97006
  [e-mail]        /  Redmond, WA  98073-9706

On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, Boris Levitin wrote:

> "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]> is kind enough to point out
> the location of the AppleScript 1.1 files within the PlainTalk distribution
> on ftp.austin.apple.com.
>
> Roy, do you know whether that AS distribution includes FaceSpan/Frontmost
> (not just the extension, but the main module)? I wanted to find that out
> before ftping and decompressing 7.5MB over our 56kb/sec link.
>
> Thanks.
> Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting,
 Boston
>                                    [e-mail] *
 [e-mail]
>               I produced this message and am solely responsible for its
 content
>
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Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:10:50 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

At 20:40 7/18/94 -0700, Paul Spurgeon wrote:
>The disk images from apple containing the AS v1.1 (along with PlainTalk
>software) do not have Facespan/Frontmost included.
>
>The installer included in the images does allow a custom installation of
>the Applescript software though. All of the disk images are necessary for
>the complete AS installation.

I beg to disagree.  When I did it, it only used disk 1 (with the Installer
on it) and Disk 4.

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 17:31:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

John Baxter wrote:

>At 12:39 7/19/94 +1200, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
>wrote:
>>Whatever the interface is for Finder extensions, Apple had to modify it
>>significantly to support things like QuickDraw GX and AOCE, and that broke
>>everything.
>
>Yes...and Apple got tired of revving "everything", hence the "bungie
>Finder", which presumably has some sort of table in a known location with
>the various addresses Network Extension and some of the others need.  I
>forget what "x" is in the sentence "The first 'bungie Finder' was 7.1.x."
>You could work it out I suppose by noting when Network Extension stopped
>changing its actual content.

I believe it must have been 7.1.3. The reason I believe this is because betas
of QuickDraw GX up to 1.0b2 included a 7.1.2 Finder, which was not compatible
with PowerTalk 1.0. Conversely, the 7.1.3 Finder was not compatible with
GX 1.0b2. Does that sound like the sort of thing that would happen with the
"bungie" Finder?

Lawrence
(thinking of one or two pieces of software he'd like to see thrown off a high
tower and left dangling inches from the ground at the end of two pieces of
elastic...)
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 02:43:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

"Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]> asks:

>What the heck is FaceSpan and FrontMost, BTW?

An interface building package for AppleScript, very roughly equivalent to
Microsoft Excel's Dialog Editor (except that you can get the latter's
functionality by a lot of laborious coding without having it, not the case
with FaceSpan). Distributed by Apple with the commercial AS kits.

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:57:18 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jason Buberel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re> Installation problems; TCP/IP link?

Tom,

1.  With AppleScript 1.0, you need the extension Apple Event Manager.  Under
AS 1.1, the function of the Apple Event Manager was folded into the
AppleScript extension.

2.  There is such an addition, called Script Daemon.  Ask around about it,
since I haven't actually used it.  You can send applescript commands over a
tcp network.  Sound cool, eh?

-jason
=============================================================
Jason L. Buberel   -=-  Graduate Student  -=-  Neuroscience Program
University of Illinois  -=-  [e-mail]  -=-  217.244.0115
=============================================================

 ------ From: Macintosh Scripting Systems, Tue, Jul 19, 1994 ------

One easy query; one not so easy.

1. I've tried installing AppleScript 1.0 on my home IIsi (running 7.1); I
put the AS Extension in the Extensions folder together with the Scripting
Additions folder from my work machine, and Script Editor 1.0. When I try
and launch Script Editor or run a script, I get a message about the
scripting system not being properly installed. What else do I need? To
avoid cluttering up the list with a newbie question, please respond to me
directly on this one.

2. I'm trying to link 4th Dimension with a unix box over an Internet link.
At the moment it's calling 4D Client on my machine, which has some TCP
externals installed. A more satisfactory solution would be if there was a
small app or AS addition that converted TCP to AppleScript, which could
interrogate the server directly. Any suggestions?




-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Owen Watson, The Royal Society of NZ, PO Box 598, Wellington, New Zealand
Internet [e-mail]  Ph: [phone] Fax: [phone]
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 11:11:06 EST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

>>The installer included in the images does allow a custom installation of
>>the Applescript software though. All of the disk images are necessary for
>>the complete AS installation.
>
>I beg to disagree.  When I did it, it only used disk 1 (with the Installer
>on it) and Disk 4.

Well, when I did just the custom AS install on my Q650, I didn't get the
new script editor from disk 2, and since it is compressed there was no way
to get it other than doing a complete install and throwing away the stuff I
didn't need.

Klaus

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:43:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

The first external version of "Bungie" was 7.1.1 which shipped with the
PowerBook Assistant software, 7.1.2 shipped with PowerTalk and 7.1.3 is the
current build which is what comes with System 7.5.


Leonard

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 13:37:17 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Leonard Rosenthol" at Jul 19, 94 09:43:49 am

--Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
>
>The first external version of "Bungie" was 7.1.1 which shipped with the
>PowerBook Assistant software, 7.1.2 shipped with PowerTalk and 7.1.3 is the
>current build which is what comes with System 7.5.

    This thread just keep going, doesn't it?

    The version of System 7 Pro that I bought from our campus store 4
months ago installed Finder 7.1.3 onto my Powerbook.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 10:40:02 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Fun with Versions

According to "AppleScript Finder Guide", this script

tell application "Finder"
    product version
end tell

returns "A string which describes the version of system software running on
the same computer as the Finder."

I am running (on my 8100), System 7.1.2 (and Finder 7.1.4).  And the script
returns "7.1.3".

This could be a result of the fact that I'm also running System Update 3.0.
It's probably NOT the average of Finder and System versions.

On the other hand, this script:

tell application "Finder"
    version
end tell

returns "A string that describes the version of the Finder Scripting
Extension or, for versions of Finder scripting software that don't require
this extension, the version of the Finder file in the active System
Folder."

I get (correctly) "1.1".  Given that Finder Scripting Extension never
reaches a version 7.x (fairly safe), this should be a hack which can test
whether there is a separate scripting extension running (but why would one
care?).

   --JOhn

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:01:21 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Bob Hassinger <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Yet another which package is which question...

Hi all,

I am new to the list and have been watching the traffic for the last few weeks,
getting ready to buy an AppleScript package for learning and development work.
I have been trying to understand the available options, but I am still not
quite clear.

I see that APDA lists "AppleScript Software Development Toolkit V1.1" at $199.
I also see listings in the mail order catalogs typically saying something like
"AppleScript", at around $150.

Are these the same package?  The mail order vendors I have asked so far don't
seem to know.  If not, how do they differ and what are the factors in picking
one over the other?  What do you get with one that you don't get with the
other?

Is there anything else I should consider instead?

Thanks,

Bob Hassinger
[e-mail]

Liberty Mutual Research Center
71 Frankland Road
Hopkinton, MA 01748

508-435-9061 x234
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:03:29 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

>--Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
>>
>>The first external version of "Bungie" was 7.1.1 which shipped with the
>>PowerBook Assistant software, 7.1.2 shipped with PowerTalk and 7.1.3 is the
>>current build which is what comes with System 7.5.
>
>    This thread just keep going, doesn't it?
>
>    The version of System 7 Pro that I bought from our campus store 4
>months ago installed Finder 7.1.3 onto my Powerbook.
>
>-Hades

It'll never die!

I have two systems on my PowerMac 8100:

System 7.5b2c4 has Finder 7.1.4 -- I installed it yesterday and made no changes.

System 7.1.2 (no Powertalk) has 7.1.4 too (which suprised me so I checked
with Resoucerer and it really has that in the vers resource).

So here'a a little table

System 7.5b2            Finder 7.1.4
System 7.1.2            Finder 7.1.4
System 7.1.1  (pro)     Finder 7.1.3
System 7.1              Finder 7.1

Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 12:38:25 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Fun with Versions

>According to "AppleScript Finder Guide", this script
>
>tell application "Finder"
>    product version
>end tell
>
>returns "A string which describes the version of system software running on
>the same computer as the Finder."
>
>I am running (on my 8100), System 7.1.2 (and Finder 7.1.4).  And the script
>returns "7.1.3".
>

On System 7.5b2 on my 8100 this script returns "7.5b2".

Perhaps they'll fix this before they ship!

asking for the version returns "1.1"


Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:51:24 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nathan Urban <[e-mail]>
Subject:      choose directory

Is there a "choose directory" dialog box analgous to the "choose file" one?
And how about "save file" and "new directory" dialog boxes that let you
enter in a file/directory name to create?

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System Planning Corporation (SPC)              Fax:  [phone]
1429 North Quincy Street                       E-mail: [e-mail]
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 21:39:32 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Choose Directory

>Is there a "choose directory" dialog box analgous to the "choose file" one?
>And how about "save file" and "new directory" dialog boxes that let you
>enter in a file/directory name to create?
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>Nathan Urban                                   Voice:[phone]
>System Planning Corporation (SPC)              Fax:  [phone]
>1429 North Quincy Street                       E-mail: [e-mail]
>Arlington, VA  22207                                   [e-mail]
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-

I believe you are looking for the choose folder osaxen. It is part of the
Sweet Suite, which is on the gaea.gks.ukans.edu ftp site as
SweetSuite.sit.hqx in the following directory: /applescript/osaxen/

Here is its dictionary:
The Sweet Suite:
Copyright =AE 1993 Gerry Davis. All rights reserved.

choose folder: Choose a folder from a standard file dialog.
        choose folder
                [with prompt  string]  -- optional user prompt
        Result:   alias  -- chosen folder

Hope this helps, Neil

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 16:43:29 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Some questions

Sorry if a little off topic, but this thread is well beyond where it started
anyway...

Where did all of you get system 7.5?  Developer's CD's?  I'd like to get  a
copy.

Thanks :-)

~josh~
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:14:13 PDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Eric Bowman <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Time Idle via AppleEvents?

A few weeks ago there was some discussion about some piece of software
which would allow one to determine how long a mac has been idle via AEs.
I never saw what this was, though; hunting around gaea turned up nothing.

Thanks,
[e-mail]
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 21:24:48 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Borre Ludvigsen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applescripting Serial Port
In-Reply-To:  <"alfie.uib..941:07.06.94.13.40.38"@uib.no>

Thanks for all the suggestions for scripting the serial port. There
was also the added ingredient of wanting it controlled through HTTP (a
Web server). Simply described, I wanted to control pan & tilt of a
small video camera that was sending CU-SeeMe video through a WWW
server page by clicking buttons.

The result was:

1. Click a button on a WEB-server page
2. The server activates a script that sends a message (up, down, left,
   right) to a SuperCard stack that's also used for direct control
   from the screen if I want.
3. The SuperCard  stack is a standalone with the HyperCard aete
   grafted in along with the HyperCard serial control XCMD's.
4. The pan and tilt control is done with the Mini Board 2.0 and 2 9V
   LEGO motors on a Technic kit.

There's a picture at:
         http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no/webdoc/video.html#pt

If anyone wants to see the SuperCard stack, you're welcome. The script
is not so good, I have to refresh the whole web page each time because
it returns 2 characters, "et" and I don't know why.

- Barre

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   Barre Ludvigsen - Ostfold Regional College- N-1750 HALDEN - Norway
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 vox:[phone]/home+4769341922/direct+4769185577ext219fax:[phone]
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   <A HREF="http://www.ludvigsen.dhhalden.no/"> Come and visit! </A>
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:52:59 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

>Sorry if a little off topic, but this thread is well beyond where it started
>anyway...
>
>Where did all of you get system 7.5?  Developer's CD's?  I'd like to get  a
>copy.
>
>Thanks :-)
>
>~josh~

I presume we all attended the WWDC conference, because its on the WWDC CD.
Otherwise I guess some people are officially on the beta program.


Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to Seattle?
[e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding cats"
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:59:58 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Robert Mark <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

>>Sorry if a little off topic, but this thread is well beyond where it started
>>anyway...
>>
>>Where did all of you get system 7.5?  Developer's CD's?  I'd like to get  a
>>copy.
>>
>>Thanks :-)
>>
>>~josh~
>
>I presume we all attended the WWDC conference, because its on the WWDC CD.
>Otherwise I guess some people are officially on the beta program.
>

The WWCD was sent with the last (July) Developer's CD.

Bob Mark

Robert Mark                           [e-mail]
US Geological Survey                  415-329-4917
345 Middlefield Road  MS-975          415-329-4936 FAX
Menlo Park, CA 94025
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Date:         Tue, 19 Jul 1994 17:45:37 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Typing Saver

Tired of typing:

tell app "Finder"

end tell

and then filling in the "stuff" in the script, while experimenting with Find=
er?

Although Script Editor isn't scriptable, try this:

1. Save the above script skeleton with a convenient name and place.
2. Using Finder (or a script) make the skeleton a Stationery document.
3. Create a script like this (using the right name and location...recording
will help):

tell application "Finder"
    open file "Finder Hack" of folder "AppleScript=81 Utilities" of startup =
disk
end tell


4. Save that script as a script in the OSA Menu folder for Script Editor.
5. Run the script when you need a fresh window containing the skeleton.

or...double click on the stationery.

----
The process should work for any script skeleton you need frequently.

   --John (=81 is trademark)

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 02:55:33 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Barry Chern <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

(speaking of AppleScript installation from the PlainTalk for PowerMac disks.)

One thing I didn't seem to be able to get out of this, was there appeared
to be a new version of the Scriptable Text Editor on the disks somewhere,
but it never got installed on my drive anywhere that I could find. And I
have no idea what format those installer files are in or if there's any
way of manually decompressing one file. Anyone have any idea?
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:22:05 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Hermelink <[e-mail]>
Subject:      copy to clipboard

Hi scripters,
Can anyone tell (explain to) me how I can copy items (text, picture) with
AppleScript from an application to the clipboard??

Thanx, Andr=E9.
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 12:30:32 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re; Copy to clipboard

By using Jon's Commands available from gaea you can use the command set
clipboard to followed by some text in quotes or a variable name etc.

Hope this helps, Neil.

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:18:40 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: copy to clipboard

At 05:22 7/20/94 -0400, Andr=E9 Hermelink wrote:
>Hi scripters,
>Can anyone tell (explain to) me how I can copy items (text, picture) with
>AppleScript from an application to the clipboard??

=46irst, you need an application which supports copying to the clipboard via
Apple events (or various 3rd party hacks).  For example, scriptable text
editor.

Second, you need to remember that the "clipboard" (that is, the System
Scrap) belongs to the frontmost application (and the user).

Then, you need code something like this (which puts the word "This" onto
the clipboard):

tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
    make new document
    set selection to "This is a test"
    select first word of document 1
    activate  -- this puts the app in front so it can affect the clipboard
    copy
    close document 1 saving no
end tell

-------------
Most of the time, there are other ways of moving data about, and the
clipboard contents should be left alone.  Think of yourself as the user.
[Sometimes, indeed, you as user really want the script to change your
clipboard.]

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 16:22:17 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Copy to clipboard

I just remebered another way to do this, bu using the autotype osax, you
can then use "autotype "c" holding "command"". This can also be used for
paste, select all, etc, i.e anything that has a keyboard shortcut.

This osax by James Davis is well worth registering. (It's on gaea I think).

Hope this helps too, Neil.

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 11:40:52 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: TCP & MACSCRPT
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sat, 16 Jul 94 12:29:54 +0700"

Todd,

>Someone mentioned a script (and presumably a matching OSAX) to
>do TCP/IP. Is this freely available?

I think you might be looking for

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/osaxen/tcpip.osax.hqx

>On another topic, is it common for people to post huge files to
>the list, not to mention unrelated employment ads? Some of us out
>here pay by the byte. I've spent $50 on net access in the last
>week due to a number of huge mail items from various sources. I've
>found the digest useful, but the last one still cost me a couple
>of dollars!

Well, let me take a stab at this one, and I'll just post it to the list since
it affects everyone. First of all, users are not supposed to send large files
through the list, and normally they don't. When someone wants to distribute
something to the list, they should put it in the incoming directory on
gaea.kgs.ukans.edu and let me know that it's there. I merge it with the rest
of the AppleScript/Frontier/Nisu/QuicKeys directories and let everyone on the
lists know.

But last week was a little different. We had trouble with one of the sites,
and it sent the delivery stats for two messages back into the list. We're
still looking for the cause.

Second, it is a matter of netiquette that you don't post off-topic stuff to a
mailing list. In particular, companies should not post advertisements or job
openings to mailing lists or newsgroups. There are specific newsgroups for
this stuff, and that's where it belongs. At the risk of being a fuddy-duddy,
I'll say that I don't want to see any more job openings posted to this list. I
won't "get over it" as the poster seemed to think. Andy and I are in agreement
about this, and my inclination is to blow away the offender's account. This
list is "un-moderated" (that is, Andy and I don't approve and then post each
message) so everyone can participate freely, and I'd like to keep it that way.
This does require that we all follow some basic guidelines.

Enough flammage.

pf


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fred Terry, The Alta Group, [e-mail], +1 913/841-1283
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 10:14:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Some questions

>>>Sorry if a little off topic, but this thread is well beyond where it started
>>>anyway...
>>>
>>>Where did all of you get system 7.5?  Developer's CD's?  I'd like to get  a
>>>copy.
>>
>>I presume we all attended the WWDC conference, because its on the WWDC CD.
>>Otherwise I guess some people are officially on the beta program.
>>
>
>The WWCD was sent with the last (July) Developer's CD.

Have you noticed, that CD that was sent out is marked "Partners & Associates
Edition". The main difference seems to be it's missing the OpenDoc sample
code that is on the version that conference attendees got. Thankfully, the
7.5 beta is still there.

Lawrence "How much further off the topic can you get" D'Oliveiro
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:30:18 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kee Nethery [phone] <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: HyperCard 2.2 AppleScript limits?

>On Sat, 4 Jun 1994, Kee Nethery [phone] wrote:
>
>> I seem to be reaching some kind of limit in the HyperCard script editor
>> when using AppleScript. I have a script with around 7077 characters. Add a
>> word and the script fails to save. It passes the check syntax but fails to
>> save. If I delete a line it saves.
>
>I wasn't aware of the ability to control AppleScript from HyperCard. How
>is this done, and what documentation can you refer me too.
>
>Thanks for any info,
>
>Jeremy

Don't remember if I replied to you so just in case I did not, HyperCard 2.2
comes with AppleScript documentation. Basically you open a script, select
the scripting language (AppleScript, HyperTalk, QuicKeys, Frontier, etc)
and then script in that language.

Kee Nethery

_________________________________________________________________
Kagi Engineering, 1442-A Walnut #362, Berkeley, CA 94709-1405 USA
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:58:54 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript 1.0 -> 1.1?!

>(speaking of AppleScript installation from the PlainTalk for PowerMac disks.)
>
>One thing I didn't seem to be able to get out of this, was there appeared
>to be a new version of the Scriptable Text Editor on the disks somewhere,
>but it never got installed on my drive anywhere that I could find. And I
>have no idea what format those installer files are in or if there's any
>way of manually decompressing one file. Anyone have any idea?

You need to run a custom full install of everything (I haven't looked
inside the script, but I think it gets installed along with the speech
recognition stuff, which doesn't get installed by default unless you have
an AV mac). Then throw away the unnecessary stuff. That's how I got it onto
my Q650.

Klaus

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Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 21:20:07 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Time Idle via AppleEvents?

At 14:14 7/19/94 -0700, Eric Bowman wrote:
>A few weeks ago there was some discussion about some piece of software
>which would allow one to determine how long a mac has been idle via AEs.
>I never saw what this was, though; hunting around gaea turned up nothing.
>

I have emailed a small UserLand addon to Eric.  It is an Extension (ugh!)
which installs a Gestalt selector (yea!) which returns the number of ticks
(60ths of a second) the machine has been idle.

The readme for the package says it is in the Frontier Extras 12/92
package...that is on gaea as the 800+ K file

gaea.kgs.ukans.edu:frontier/FromUserland/Extras12.92.hqx

If anyone needs this without the rest of the extras, ask me (I would have
to check with UserLand before posting the separate package to gaea).
[According to the readme, idle is defined as no keystroke, disk insertion,
mouse click or mouse movement, but serial port activity and such are not
(per the readme) checked.

If you have the Scriptable Finder, this can be called with something like this

tell application "Finder"
    set timeIdle to computer "idle"  -- ticks idle
end tell

It can be used with Jons Commands, also:

    set timeIdle to machine environment "idle"

--John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jul 1994 23:01:03 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Grabbing the last word of a file reference in AS

Sorry if this is stupid but I've tried many different ways of wording this
and looked up but can't figure it out.  I'm sure I'm missing something
obvious...

I'm trying to get the file reference to a folder.  I have a reference to a
file whithin the folder.  How can I grab all but the last word of the file
reference (leaving me with the folder reference)?

P.S. I do *not* have the Scriptable Finder yet.

Thanks!

~josh~
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:33:04 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: HyperCard 2.2 AppleScript limits?

>
>
_______________________________________________________________________________
> From: Macintosh Scripting Systems on 21 Jul, 1994 1:44
> Subject: Re: HyperCard 2.2 AppleScript limits?
> To: Multiple recipients of list MACSCRPT
>
> >On Sat, 4 Jun 1994, Kee Nethery [phone] wrote:
> >
> >> I seem to be reaching some kind of limit in the HyperCard script
> editor
> >> when using AppleScript. I have a script with around 7077 characters.
> Add a
> >> word and the script fails to save. It passes the check syntax but
> fails to
> >> save. If I delete a line it saves.
> >
> >I wasn't aware of the ability to control AppleScript from HyperCard.
> How
> >is this done, and what documentation can you refer me too.
> >
> >Thanks for any info,
> >
> >Jeremy
>
> Don't remember if I replied to you so just in case I did not, HyperCard
> 2.2
> comes with AppleScript documentation. Basically you open a script,
> select
> the scripting language (AppleScript, HyperTalk, QuicKeys, Frontier, etc)
> and then script in that language.
>
> Kee Nethery

On a related note, I threw together a little stack last week to send AEs to
another app, and after an hour of trying, I could not get values out of a card
field from an AS handler. I gave up finally and just used a HyperTalk script to
get  and set the values, then sent them to an AS handler for the
communications. I looked through all the example stacks which come with 2.2 and
couldn't find any code there for doing it either. Anyone have experience with
this?

Anyone on this list going to MacWorld Boston? Should we meet for a seafood
dinner somewhere before the show starts? I've got a couple days to kill and
don't know what to do with myself.

-wayne
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 07:20:05 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Bill Innanen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      ScriptWizard 1.0 request

Could someone with  ScriptWizard 1.0 and time to do a short experiment
please drop me a private e-mail?  I've run into a problem with it, and I'd
like to see if it's me or SW.  If it turns out to be SW, I'll post a
description to the list.

Thanks,
Bill

--
Bill Innanen             (Internet) [e-mail]
#include <stdDisclaimers.h>   /* Unless otherwise noted */
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:51:04 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "George R. Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Generic (versionless) tell application?

Is there a way to give a wild card to the tell command to effectively
ignore the version of the application, e.g. tell application "XYZ*"?  I've
tried the wild card but it prompts for the application.  It'd be nice for
it to use the first one it found that matched the wild card specification.

George Brown                    Voice: 315-738-0600x250
8383 Seneca Turnpike            FAX: [phone]
New Hartford, NY  13413-4991    e-mail: [e-mail]
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:55:05 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy J. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Sorry for the broadcast
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Steve Riggins" at Jul 16, 94 08:45:01 am

Steve Riggins hath writ:
>
> How do I get off of this mailing list?  I tried sending unsubscribe to the
> listserv, but it told me that it really didn't know who I was and to bugger
> off.  It said that I might be part of another list being served to this
> list.

If you have problems with the listserv software, contact
"[e-mail]"

-A

--
Andy J. Williams ([e-mail])
Manager, Computer Resource Center, Dartmouth College

"Doing strange things in the name of art..."
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 10:17:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "George R. Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Problem with Eudora cast

  I'm having a problem with an AS segment from "Mail to Peter".  I have the
following AS segment and it won't compile.  See the marked section of code
(the second cast double bracket).  Any clues?  I'm stumped...
---------------------------
on aliasToMonster(theAlias)
        set parID to =ABevent sysoCAST=BB (theAlias as =ABclass fss=BB) give=
n
                                                   ^ expected class name
                                                     but found "=AB"
                     =ABclass FROM=BB:3, =ABclass SIZE=BB:4, =ABclass TO=BB:=
"long"
        set saveDelimiters to AppleScript's text item delimiters
        set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {":"}
        set vName to text item 1 of (theAlias as string)
        set fName to text item -1 of (theAlias as string)
        set AppleScript's text item delimiters to saveDelimiters
        return ":" & vName & ":" & parID & ":" & fName & ":"
end aliasToMonster

George Brown                    Voice: 315-738-0600x250
8383 Seneca Turnpike            FAX: [phone]
New Hartford, NY  13413-4991    e-mail: [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 10:34:24 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Grabbing the last word of a file reference in AS
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "[e-mail]" at Jul 20, 94 11:01:03 pm

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>Sorry if this is stupid but I've tried many different ways of wording this
>and looked up but can't figure it out.  I'm sure I'm missing something
>obvious...
>
>I'm trying to get the file reference to a folder.  I have a reference to a
>file whithin the folder.  How can I grab all but the last word of the file
>reference (leaving me with the folder reference)?

    Well, as long as the reference looks like this: "HD:Folder:File"
there is a fairly easy way to do what you want. Take a look at this
script...

set thePath to "Ghost:Development:AppleScript Utilities:Script Editor"
set oldDelimiters to AppleScript's text item delimiters
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {":"}
set theFolder to (text items 1 thru ((count text items of thePath) - 1) \
        of thePath as text) & ":"
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to oldDelimiters
theFolder

    This will set theFolder to the the folder of the file reference. The
"\" character is my line continuation character.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:48:08 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      New versions of Apple osaxen

Bruce Brinson was kind enough to pull the new versions of the Read/Write
Commands, Display Dialog, and Run Script from AppleLink. Supposedly, these fix
problems with the PowerMacs. You'll find them in

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/osaxen/New_Apple_osaxen.sit.hqx

Thanks, Bruce.

Enjoy.

pf


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fred Terry, The Alta Group, [e-mail], +1 913/841-1283
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:53:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jason Buberel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re> ScriptWizard 1.0 request

Bill,

Despite the fact that you may be running into some problems with script
wizard, what is your overall impression of the product?  I have just placed
an order for it, since it was at an introductory price of just $45.  Although
once the shipment comes in, I would be glad to experiment for you.  Are there
some caveats to its use?  Some great benefits?

thanks,

jason


=============================================================
Jason L. Buberel   -=-  Graduate Student  -=-  Neuroscience Program
University of Illinois  -=-  [e-mail]  -=-  217.244.0115
=============================================================

 ------ From: Macintosh Scripting Systems, Thu, Jul 21, 1994 ------

Could someone with  ScriptWizard 1.0 and time to do a short experiment
please drop me a private e-mail?  I've run into a problem with it, and I'd
like to see if it's me or SW.  If it turns out to be SW, I'll post a
description to the list.

Thanks,
Bill

--
Bill Innanen             (Internet) [e-mail]
#include <stdDisclaimers.h>   /* Unless otherwise noted */
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 07:58:30 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: HyperCard 2.2 AppleScript limits?

>On a related note, I threw together a little stack last week to send AEs to
>another app, and after an hour of trying, I could not get values out of a card
>field from an AS handler.

on mouseUp
    set window "Message" to card field "Test"
end mouseUp


works for me (as a button script, in this test).  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 08:07:13 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Problem with Eudora cast

>  I'm having a problem with an AS segment from "Mail to Peter".  I have the
>following AS segment and it won't compile.  See the marked section of code
>(the second cast double bracket).  Any clues?  I'm stumped...
>---------------------------
>on aliasToMonster(theAlias)
>        set parID to =ABevent sysoCAST=BB (theAlias as =ABclass fss=BB) giv=
en
>                                                   ^ expected class name
>                                                     but found "=AB"
>                     =ABclass FROM=BB:3, =ABclass SIZE=BB:4, =ABclass TO=BB=
:"long"
>        set saveDelimiters to AppleScript's text item delimiters
>        set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {":"}
>        set vName to text item 1 of (theAlias as string)
>        set fName to text item -1 of (theAlias as string)
>        set AppleScript's text item delimiters to saveDelimiters
>        return ":" & vName & ":" & parID & ":" & fName & ":"
>end aliasToMonster
>

Hi, George...
   Class names are 4 characters.  In this smaller test (I haven't tried your=
s),

 class of =ABclass fss=BB

fails to compile, whilst

 class of =ABclass fss =BB

is fine.  (You'll probably have to adjust the =ABclass TO=BB in the next lin=
e,
also.)
  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:13:06 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Steven L. Rohall" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Grabbing the last word of a file reference in AS

>>I'm trying to get the file reference to a folder.  I have a reference to a
>>file whithin the folder.  How can I grab all but the last word of the file
>>reference (leaving me with the folder reference)?
>
>    Well, as long as the reference looks like this: "HD:Folder:File"
>there is a fairly easy way to do what you want. Take a look at this
>script...
>
>set thePath to "Ghost:Development:AppleScript Utilities:Script Editor"
>set oldDelimiters to AppleScript's text item delimiters
>set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {":"}
*>set theFolder to (text items 1 thru ((count text items of thePath) - 1)
of thePath as text) & ":"
>set AppleScript's text item delimiters to oldDelimiters
>theFolder

Actually, the *'d line could be made somewhat simpler:

set theFolder to (text items 1 thru -2 of thePath as text) & ":"

                        -Steve.
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:17:54 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Bill Innanen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      ScriptWizard 1.0 glitch

In an earlier post today, I alluded to a problem with ScriptWizard 1.0.
Thanks to Lee Hoong I now have a confirmation of it on a completely
separate system.  Thus for your amusement and edification, here are the
details.  Below, find my note to Full Moon Software describing the problem,
their response, my note to Lee requesting his experiment, and his results.

Bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Full Moon Software Support,
>
>I am having a very strange problem with your product ScriptWizard 1.0,
>which I received just 3 days ago.  I've isolated the problem down to a
>point to where I understand *what* is happening, but I still have now idea
>of why, or more to the point, how to get rid of it.
>
>I am running ScriptWizard on a PowerMac 8100/80, with a fairly full list
>of system extensions.  I first noticed a problem with ScriptWizard when I
>tried to open a dictionary on an AppleScript aware program.  I chose the
>"Open Dictionary..." command and got the usual GetFile dialog.  When I
>attempted to change directory levels I got a "swap disk" dialog asking
>that I put in an optical disk ("Develop") which had not been in since the
>last restart.  On pressing the cancel button I got a repeat of the dialog.
>Cancel again, and I got a request for "More Applications," another
>optical that had not been used.  I eventually gave up and force quit
>ScriptWizard.  An investigation proved that the problem went away if I
>removed all extensions except the AppleScript related extensions.
>
>I continued hunting for the rogue extension and eventually narrowed it
>down to QuickTime 1.6.2.  During the course of this testing I accidently
>found that if I canceled the swap disk dialog 24 times it would go away
>and stay away, until I changed directory levels again.  Also this only
>happened if I tried to switch into my "Applications" folder.  Most other
>directory levels did not exhibit this problem although one, "AppleScript
>=9F" always generated one request.  Suddenly inspiration struck, and I
>counted the number of aliases (all to "Develop" or "More Applications") in
>the Applications folder.  There were 24.  There is one alias in
>"AppleScript =9F."
>
>This problem does not occur when I use ScriptWizard to open a text file,
>only a dictionary.  I've tried replacing the QT extension with a fresh
>copy, but the problem persists.  Do you have any idea what is going on?
>Now that I have a rough idea of what to expect the problem is no longer
>"fatal," but it is extremely annoying.
>
>Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>
>Bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Thank you for your problem report. This is not one we have "on file"
>as a known problem, so it has been passed to engineering. We are working
>on the next release of SW right now, and we'll endeavour to find out
>what is going wrong and solve the problem for you.
>
>
>best regards, Steph
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lee,
>
>Thanks for offering to help.  I hope you have QuickTime 1.6.2, because that
>is a part of the "problem."  I should have mentioned it in the post, but
>forgot.  If you don't have it, let me know and I'll send you a copy.  Below
>is the message I sent to Full Moon software and their response.  As you can
>see it wasn't very helpful.  What I'd like to know is if it my system that
>is doing this to me or a flaw in ScriptWizard.  If you would, please create
>a folder and put some aliases to unmounted disks (floppies, perhaps) in it.
>Then, in ScriptWizard, use the "Open Dictionary..." menu choice and
>navigate into that folder to see what happens.
>
>Please let me know your results.
>
>Bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Bill,
>
>I have been able to reproduce your problem (I have QT 1.6.1) with one
>variation: I get prompted to insert the unmounted volume (in this case a
>Bernoulli) regardless of whether or not QT is loaded!  In addition, if you
>have aliases for machines across a network (as I do) your Mac will also
>attempt to re-connect.  Arrgh!
>
>BTW, I'm running sys. 7.1, Finder 7.1.3 (with the Finder Scripting
>Extension) on a Centris 650.  The machine is hooked up to an ethernet
>network.
>
>Lee.
>
>Lee K. Hoong
>Emory University
>Atlanta, GA 30322
>Internet: [e-mail]
>AOL: LHOONG
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
>Opinions and comments expressed are mine; I do not represent Emory
>University.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
Bill Innanen             (Internet) [e-mail]
#include <stdDisclaimers.h>   /* Unless otherwise noted */
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 10:50:14 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Alex Sirota <[e-mail]>
Subject:      QuickKeys OSA language question (Jump command)

Hello scripters!

Problem with QuickKeys OSA language. The following script based on the fact
that Unlock Key Chain... or Lock Key Chain is under the Special menu should
select that menu and execute the appropriate commands. Instead, at the first
Jump command this script just waits. When I select Lock Key Chain under the
Special menu it then just continues with the next Wait command.

Has anyone used the Jump command successfully in QuickKeys OSA language?

BTW I am using the ellipses for the menu item names, but have written them
with three periods for readability. I have also tried different amount of
steps for the jump command without avail.

Thanks!

Alex Sirota

QuicKeys script follows

Wait Application "PowerTalk Manager" Running
Menu "Finder" Exactly
Wait Application "Finder"
Jump Menu "Special" Item "Lock Key Chain" Exact_Menu Exact_Item Item_Exists
Steps 5
Wait Menu "Special" Item "Unlock Key Chain..." Exact_Menu Exact_Item
Item_Exists
Menu "Unlock Key Chain..." Exactly From "Special"
Wait Window Name_Is "" Dialog
Text "test12\R"
Jump Menu "Special" Item "Lock Key Chain" Exact_Menu Exact_Item Item_Exists
Steps 1
Menu "Lock Key Chain" Exactly From "Special"
Message "done!"


------------------ Enclosed/Nested Letter Follows ------------------
Hello scripters!

Problem with QuickKeys OSA language. The following script based on the fact
that Unlock Key Chain... or Lock Key Chain is under the Special menu should
select that menu and execute the appropriate commands. Instead, at the first
Jump command this script just waits. When I select Lock Key Chain under the
Special menu it then just continues with the next Wait command.

Has anyone used the Jump command successfully in QuickKeys OSA language?

BTW I am using the ellipses for the menu item names, but have written them
with three periods for readability. I have also tried different amount of
steps for the jump command without avail.

Thanks!

Alex Sirota

script follows

Wait Application "PowerTalk Manager" Running
Menu "Finder" Exactly
Wait Application "Finder"
Jump Menu "Special" Item "Lock Key Chain" Exact_Menu Exact_Item Item_Exists
Steps 5
Wait Menu "Special" Item "Unlock Key Chain..." Exact_Menu Exact_Item
Item_Exists
Menu "Unlock Key Chain..." Exactly From "Special"
Wait Window Name_Is "" Dialog
Text "test12\R"
Jump Menu "Special" Item "Lock Key Chain" Exact_Menu Exact_Item Item_Exists
Steps 1
Menu "Lock Key Chain" Exactly From "Special"
Message "done!"

------------------ End of Enclosed/Nested Letter ------------------
_________________________________________________________________________
--- "Genius is an African that dreams of snow."  - Nabokov
--- Alex Sirota - [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:58:07 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Grabbing the last word of a file reference in AS
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Steven L. Rohall" at Jul 21, 94 11:13:06 am

--Steven L. Rohall wrote:
>
>>set thePath to "Ghost:Development:AppleScript Utilities:Script Editor"
>>set oldDelimiters to AppleScript's text item delimiters
>>set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {":"}
>*>set theFolder to (text items 1 thru ((count text items of thePath) - 1)
>of thePath as text) & ":"
>>set AppleScript's text item delimiters to oldDelimiters
>>theFolder
>
>Actually, the *'d line could be made somewhat simpler:
>
>set theFolder to (text items 1 thru -2 of thePath as text) & ":"

    Cool! I didn't realize that this would work, but it makes a lot of
sense given the other uses of the negative referencing.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:11:59 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kee Nethery [phone] <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: HyperCard 2.2 AppleScript limits?

>On a related note, I threw together a little stack last week to send AEs to
>another app, and after an hour of trying, I could not get values out of a card
>field from an AS handler. I gave up finally and just used a HyperTalk script to
>get  and set the values, then sent them to an AS handler for the
>communications. I looked through all the example stacks which come with 2.2 and
>couldn't find any code there for doing it either. Anyone have experience with
>this?

AppleScript seems to require everything spelled out, no abbreviations. For
example:

copy field "email" to msgadd
set the hilite of background button "msg1" to true

Kee Nethery

_________________________________________________________________
Kagi Engineering, 1442-A Walnut #362, Berkeley, CA 94709-1405 USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:20:16 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jason Buberel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re> ScriptWizard 1.0 glitch

Here's a guess as to what may be happening:

When using the regular script editor, the program will, in each directory,
try to figure out whether or not each file has an aete resource describing
the apple events it can handle.  When the sfopen file dialog is brought up,
sc ript wizard is probably checking each file for an aete resource.  Since
you have aliases to unmounted volumes in those directories, script wizard is
gonna try and search the resource fork of each of those applications, looking
for the aete entry.

This is just a gues, but probably near the truth.

-jason

p.s.  not that this will help at all!  :)
=============================================================
Jason L. Buberel   -=-  Graduate Student  -=-  Neuroscience Program
University of Illinois  -=-  [e-mail]  -=-  217.244.0115
=============================================================

 ------ From: Macintosh Scripting Systems, Thu, Jul 21, 1994 ------

In an earlier post today, I alluded to a problem with ScriptWizard 1.0.
Thanks to Lee Hoong I now have a confirmation of it on a completely
separate system.  Thus for your amusement and edification, here are the
details.  Below, find my note to Full Moon Software describing the problem,
their response, my note to Lee requesting his experiment, and his results.

Bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Full Moon Software Support,
>
>I am having a very strange problem with your product ScriptWizard 1.0,
>which I received just 3 days ago.  I've isolated the problem down to a
>point to where I understand *what* is happening, but I still have now idea
>of why, or more to the point, how to get rid of it.
>
>I am running ScriptWizard on a PowerMac 8100/80, with a fairly full list
>of system extensions.  I first noticed a problem with ScriptWizard when I
>tried to open a dictionary on an AppleScript aware program.  I chose the
>"Open Dictionary..." command and got the usual GetFile dialog.  When I
>attempted to change directory levels I got a "swap disk" dialog asking
>that I put in an optical disk ("Develop") which had not been in since the
>last restart.  On pressing the cancel button I got a repeat of the dialog.
>Cancel again, and I got a request for "More Applications," another
>optical that had not been used.  I eventually gave up and force quit
>ScriptWizard.  An investigation proved that the problem went away if I
>removed all extensions except the AppleScript related extensions.
>
>I continued hunting for the rogue extension and eventually narrowed it
>down to QuickTime 1.6.2.  During the course of this testing I accidently
>found that if I canceled the swap disk dialog 24 times it would go away
>and stay away, until I changed directory levels again.  Also this only
>happened if I tried to switch into my "Applications" folder.  Most other
>directory levels did not exhibit this problem although one, "AppleScript
>=9F" always generated one request.  Suddenly inspiration struck, and I
>counted the number of aliases (all to "Develop" or "More Applications") in
>the Applications folder.  There were 24.  There is one alias in
>"AppleScript =9F."
>
>This problem does not occur when I use ScriptWizard to open a text file,
>only a dictionary.  I've tried replacing the QT extension with a fresh
>copy, but the problem persists.  Do you have any idea what is going on?
>Now that I have a rough idea of what to expect the problem is no longer
>"fatal," but it is extremely annoying.
>
>Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>
>Bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Thank you for your problem report. This is not one we have "on file"
>as a known problem, so it has been passed to engineering. We are working
>on the next release of SW right now, and we'll endeavour to find out
>what is going wrong and solve the problem for you.
>
>
>best regards, Steph
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lee,
>
>Thanks for offering to help.  I hope you have QuickTime 1.6.2, because that
>is a part of the "problem."  I should have mentioned it in the post, but
>forgot.  If you don't have it, let me know and I'll send you a copy.  Below
>is the message I sent to Full Moon software and their response.  As you can
>see it wasn't very helpful.  What I'd like to know is if it my system that
>is doing this to me or a flaw in ScriptWizard.  If you would, please create
>a folder and put some aliases to unmounted disks (floppies, perhaps) in it.
>Then, in ScriptWizard, use the "Open Dictionary..." menu choice and
>navigate into that folder to see what happens.
>
>Please let me know your results.
>
>Bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Bill,
>
>I have been able to reproduce your problem (I have QT 1.6.1) with one
>variation: I get prompted to insert the unmounted volume (in this case a
>Bernoulli) regardless of whether or not QT is loaded!  In addition, if you
>have aliases for machines across a network (as I do) your Mac will also
>attempt to re-connect.  Arrgh!
>
>BTW, I'm running sys. 7.1, Finder 7.1.3 (with the Finder Scripting
>Extension) on a Centris 650.  The machine is hooked up to an ethernet
>network.
>
>Lee.
>
>Lee K. Hoong
>Emory University
>Atlanta, GA 30322
>Internet: [e-mail]
>AOL: LHOONG
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
>Opinions and comments expressed are mine; I do not represent Emory
>University.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
Bill Innanen             (Internet) [e-mail]
#include <stdDisclaimers.h>   /* Unless otherwise noted */
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:54:50 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Time Idle via AppleEvents?

>The readme for the package says it is in the Frontier Extras 12/92
>package...that is on gaea as the 800+ K file
>
>gaea.kgs.ukans.edu:frontier/FromUserland/Extras12.92.hqx
>
>If you have the Scriptable Finder, this can be called with something like this
>
>tell application "Finder"
>    set timeIdle to computer "idle"  -- ticks idle
>end tell
>
>It can be used with Jons Commands, also:
>
>    set timeIdle to machine environment "idle"
>

Can this be used without Frontier?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:55:55 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Re> ScriptWizard 1.0 request

>Despite the fact that you may be running into some problems with script
>wizard, what is your overall impression of the product?  I have just placed
>an order for it, since it was at an introductory price of just $45.

Where or how can one get this offer?


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:04:35 PDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dave Wise <[e-mail]>
Subject:      OwnerMachineNames

(COLOSSAL)PICTURES
                            interoffice memo     7/21/94        -
                                                                  11:54 AM
 regarding:OwnerMachineNames
Does any one know how to get the owner name and machine name from a remote
mounted volume? I know I can get that information from choose application
but I would like to get it from some other method that doesn't require end
user interaction.
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 15:51:28 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete 'Happy' Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS 1.1

Is there an AS release more recent than that that comes with Sys 7 Pro?
I've got too scripts (one with KeyQuencer and another that I found on the
net) that came that they are too new for the "scripting component."

I can't find the proper upgrade.

--Pete

-----
  Peter L. Thomas, Graduate Research Assistant--GTRI
  Internet Mail Address:   [e-mail]
  Postal:  35139 Georgia Tech Station/Atlanta, GA  30332-5139
  Phone: (H) [phone], (O) [phone]
  Internet Talk/Finger Requests:  [e-mail]
  PGP Public Key: available from MIT PGP key server and others
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 12:54:11 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      July == 7, June == 6, etc

Got a problem: I'm trying to make it as easy as possible to convert back
and forth between a numerical format for months (1, 2, 3 ... 12) and an
alphabetic format for months ("January", "February", "March" ...
"December).

I can do this as a list (
{{name:"January",num:1},{name:"February",num:2}...{name:"December",num:12}}
) and then just move through it, but I'm hoping AppleScript has something
built in to handle this.

any suggestions?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 15:02:42 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jason Buberel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: ScriptWizard 1.0 request

Klaus,

I saw a posting concerning the release of the software on some news group
(clari.nb.apple or maybe comp.sys.mac.announce), that gave an e-mail address.
 I sent them a message, and they faxed me an order form for their
introduction promotion.  The price was only $45.  I just filled out the form
and faxed it right back to them.  Of course, right now I cannot find that
e-mail address or fax number, but anyone who already has a copy probably
could.  The offer was due to expire near august first, if I remember
correctly.

hopes this helps a bit.
=============================================================
Jason L. Buberel   -=-  Graduate Student  -=-  Neuroscience Program
University of Illinois  -=-  [e-mail]  -=-  217.244.0115
=============================================================

 ------ From: Macintosh Scripting Systems, Thu, Jul 21, 1994 ------

>Despite the fact that you may be running into some problems with script
>wizard, what is your overall impression of the product?  I have just placed
>an order for it, since it was at an introductory price of just $45.

Where or how can one get this offer?


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 15:19:13 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy Cemelli [remote]" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Fun with Versions -Reply

I tried this on my system which is a Q800 running 7.1.1 but on another
drive i have 7.5 (it was actually disconnected too) and guess what I
got?  7.5b2!  Perhaps it's checking the desktop file? or something
else?

>>> Kevin Purcell <[e-mail]> - 7/19/94 12:38 PM >>>
>According to "AppleScript Finder Guide", this script
>
>tell application "Finder"
>    product version
>end tell
>
>returns "A string which describes the version of system software
running on
>the same computer as the Finder."
>
>I am running (on my 8100), System 7.1.2 (and Finder 7.1.4).  And the
script
>returns "7.1.3".
>

On System 7.5b2 on my 8100 this script returns "7.5b2".

Perhaps they'll fix this before they ship!

asking for the version returns "1.1"


Kevin Purcell, N7WIM / G8UDP  Are you a Mac developer? Live close to
Seattle? [e-mail]          We need you in the dBug Mac
Dev SIG. email me!
[phone]                "Organising programmers is like herding
cats"
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 15:48:58 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy Cemelli [remote]" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Time Idle via AppleEvents? -Reply

I got an error - "the finder got an error: an error of type -5515
occurred..." anyone know why? i've got AS 1.1

>>> John W. Baxter <[e-mail]> - 7/20/94 9:20 PM >>>

tell application "Finder"
    set timeIdle to computer "idle"  -- ticks idle end tell
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 13:30:56 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: ScriptWizard 1.0 request

>I saw a posting concerning the release of the software on some news group
>(clari.nb.apple or maybe comp.sys.mac.announce), that gave an e-mail address.
> I sent them a message, and they faxed me an order form for their
>introduction promotion.  The price was only $45.  I just filled out the form
>and faxed it right back to them.  Of course, right now I cannot find that
>e-mail address or fax number, but anyone who already has a copy probably
>could.  The offer was due to expire near august first, if I remember
>correctly.

As usual, I could have answered my own question:

There is a demo and an info text file on gaea in the demo directory:

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/demos/ScriptWizard_Info.txt
ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/demos/ScriptWiz.Demo.sit.hqx

The text file contains all the info you were referring to.

Thanks for stirring my subconscious memory :-)

Klaus

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Klaus P. Fechner<[e-mail]> VAMC Palo Alto, CA, USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:43:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: QuickKeys OSA language question (Jump command)

Alex Sirota asks:

>Has anyone used the Jump command successfully in QuickKeys OSA language?

No! At least, it's never worked for me, no matter what kind of conditions I
try. I posted a simple example script in the CE support area on AppleLink, and
they acknowledged it as a bug.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 15:00:02 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Holden <[e-mail]>
Subject:      walk folders skip every other one

Hello!

This script, skips every other file in a folder.  Any idea why?
The folder is dropped on the application script. This is with
the scriptable Finder.

<<< start script >>>

script foo
        on open (theFile)
                tell application "Finder"
                        activate
                        delete theFile
                end tell
                return
        end open
end script

on open (theFiles)
        walk folders theFiles with script foo
end open

<<< end script >>>

Thanks!

Steve


><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
><   Steven D. Holden, Macintosh System/Applications Engineer,  ><
>< SAIC -> NRaD -> Project ICER, [e-mail], 619.553.6750 ><
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
><     Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are my own and do not     ><
><  necessarily reflect those of my employer or the government  ><
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:12:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: walk folders skip every other one

Steve Holden <[e-mail]> asks:

>This script, skips every other file in a folder.  Any idea why?

>script foo
>       on open (theFile)
>                tell application "Finder"
>                        activate
>                        delete theFile
>                end tell
>                return
>        end open
>end script
>
>on open (theFiles)
>        walk folders theFiles with script foo
>end open

Elementary programming error #251. Here's what happens (the arrow indicates
the current position):

Initially,

    -> file1
       file2
       file3

After deletion,

    -> file2
       file3

After stepping to the next file,

       file2
    -> file3

thus file2 is skipped!

It appears that "walk" function is not designed to cope with an action that
makes changes to the list. My recommendation is, your "foo" action script should
just build a list of filespecs, then you should scan this list and delete the
files as a separate step after the walk.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 17:16:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeffrey Haas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript & AOCE

I'm looking for a way to copy a message from an AOCE mailbox to a folder and
then delete the message.

I've tried using Finder Liason and recording a script under 7.5.
Finder Liaison says that it can't access the message, in various forms of the
script that I've tried.

The recorded script looks like this.
Tell application "Finder"
        Copy item "message name" of item "In Tray for Jeffrey Haas" of item

        "Jeffrey Haas" To "Finder Shortcuts"
end tell

Any ideas as to directions to be persued would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

--jeff
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:13:11 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Time Idle via AppleEvents?

>>The readme for the package says it is in the Frontier Extras 12/92
>>package...that is on gaea as the 800+ K file
>>
>>gaea.kgs.ukans.edu:frontier/FromUserland/Extras12.92.hqx
>>
>>If you have the Scriptable Finder, this can be called with something like this
>>
>>tell application "Finder"
>>    set timeIdle to computer "idle"  -- ticks idle
>>end tell
>>
>>It can be used with Jons Commands, also:
>>
>>    set timeIdle to machine environment "idle"
>>
>
>Can this be used without Frontier?

The Extension (which installs a Gestalt selector) can be used without
Frontier.  The Frontier verb which is included, of course, cannot.

And I'd say that probably all of the rest of the Extras12.92.hqx file
requires Frontier.
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:44:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Time Idle via AppleEvents? -Reply

>I got an error - "the finder got an error: an error of type -5515
>occurred..." anyone know why? i've got AS 1.1
>
>>>> John W. Baxter <[e-mail]> - 7/20/94 9:20 PM >>>
>
>tell application "Finder"
>    set timeIdle to computer "idle"  -- ticks idle end tell

The error you got was (almost certainly) -5551, and it means:

Undefined selector was passed to Gestalt (OS error -5551)

which in turn means that you didn't install the Extension I mentioned in
the message in which I included that line.  That extension installs the
Gestalt selector with the code "idle".

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 00:23:19 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      A couple of questions

If you could help me with the following questions I would greatly
appreciate your suggestions.

How can/can I check if AppleTalk is on?

What's the easiest way to store "preferences" other than in a text document
using Scriptable Text Editor. Is it through the file IO osax. (Examples for
this or other methods would be greatly appreciated)

Display a dialog with part of the text changing, i.e a countdown until an
event. For example "Script ready to proceed in "10,9,8 etc" seconds" with
just the number changing. I would rather do it as a countdown than as a
progress bar through Progress bar. That and displaying different dialog
boxes each being dismissed through autotype are the only ways I can think
of.

Thanks for your time, Neil.

P.S Sorry about the double signature on my last posting

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 18:42:41 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "amtsgi.bc.ca" <[e-mail]>

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 21:19:42 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Charles Wiltgen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Time Idle via AppleEvents?

>If anyone needs this without the rest of the extras, ask me (I would have
>to check with UserLand before posting the separate package to gaea).

I'd really appreciate it if you could send this to me.  I want to set up a
machine so a MM Director demo will start if the machine's dormant for any
amount of time.

Thanks,


--
Charles Wiltgen    "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and
[e-mail]    then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath.
(INTP)              At night, the ice weasels come." - Nietzsche (Groening)
World Wide Web      http://venus.mcs.net/~cwiltgen/home.html
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 22:09:45 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Tom Donovan <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: ScriptWizard 1.0 request

Several people have asked about the $45 ScriptWizard offer.  It is from
Heizer Software (800-888-7667, e-mail: [e-mail]), and according to
a newsletter I saw, the offer expires 9/1/94.

--Tom
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 00:34:59 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Israel Alvarez <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Speech Recognition and AppleScript question

Howdy all - I'm a new member to the list and extremely happy to have found
it. Tough finding other folks using AppleScript.

At any rate, I've recently begun messing with Speech Recognition (SR) on a
600av, and have run into a few problems. I'm wondering if anyone else has any
experience with integrating SR, TTS, and AS. Specifically:
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 00:36:49 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Israel Alvarez <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript and Speech Recognition (pt.2)

Sorry about that last - mail got sent before it was supposed to. Here's the
rest.

The biggest problem I've had (besides an absolute lack of documentation) has
been trying to figure out how to get AppleScript to ask a questyion,
recognize and evaluate a spoken response, and then branch on the value of the
response.

I finally figured out a way around this by using the "Display Dialog"
scripting addition. Since it returns the name of the button clicked in the
dialog box, and since SR will automatically "recognize" dialog box buttons as
valid SR text, I figured I had the problem beaten. Two problems however:
First it's kind of inelegant, as you wind up having a dialog box on screen,
even if you just want to ask a "yes" or "no" question. I know that there must
be a better way, because my 660av does exactly what I'm trying to do every
time I tell it to shut down (ie: it asks "Are you sure" and waits to hear
"yes" or "no", at which point it takes appropriate action. The second, larger
problem is that, for some reason I can't understand, calls to scripting
additions will work when run from within the Speech Macro Editor or Script
Editor, but often return a script error when the rules are reloaded and the
command is spoken. I tested to make sure, and it does process the command
"beep" (which I thought was also a scripting addition), but not commands in
other scripting additions. My guess is that the Speech Macro editor will only
send commands to SR Monitor, which don't become part of the AppleScript
"hierarchy", or perhaps that many OSAX are incompatible with SR. Why this
should be so, I have no idea.

At any rate, I'm wondering if there's a solution, or at least somewhere I
could get some documentation for how the SR architecture links in with
AppleScript. I opened up a copy of System Speech Rules with ResEdit and found
what seem to be built-in commands, but I have no idea how to edit them or add
new ones. The Dictionary available in the SR Monitor extension is also of
little help, since it is amazingly vague.

I figure there *must* be someone out there, maybe at Apple, who knows how
this stuff works, and they must have written it down at some point. I'd love
to get my hands on such a document.

Thanks in advance,
Israel Alvarez
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 06:39:54 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christophe Reverd <[e-mail]>
Organization: FranceNet
Subject:      Re: AppleScript Examples ?

>Thanks very much for the sites! We are going to attempt to automate
>FileMaker Pro in the next few months for our tests.
>
>I am no FileMaker wizard, but one of my coworkers was wondering if the
>current version of FileMaker supports C-code externals from their scripts.
>If you have any experience with this, I would appreciate you thoughts.
>
>Thanks again. I will definitely check out these sites.

The current version (v2.1) of FileMaker Pro is able to drive some externals
via AppleScript or AppleEvents. I'm developing a range of externals for this
software.

1) AppleScript : To do this you have to develop a droplet or an applet. Then
you should add a menu item in FileMaker Pro. A new item menu called
"external" (with your item menu in it) will appear at the end of the "script"
menu. Each time a user select this item menu, FM Pro send an AE to your
application. Feel free to do whatever you want... Use a C-Code OSAX for
example. Ask Claris or me for some examples.

2) Apple Events : Develop a C-Code Apple Events application aware. Then you
could drive your application directly from the "send AE (parm1 parm2) or
(script1 script2)..." command (available from ScriptMaker)


I know my english isn't always so good. Hope it clears !

Christophe Reverd
_________________________________
French Speakers FM Pro User Group

[e-mail] or
[e-mail]
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 1994 22:27:48 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Kee Nethery [phone] <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Preferences file example

>What's the easiest way to store "preferences" other than in a text document
>using Scriptable Text Editor. Is it through the file IO osax. (Examples for
>this or other methods would be greatly appreciated)

yes it is through the file I/O osax. The other thing to do is to use the
record structure for the information. It lets you grab everything in one
easy swoop with no parsing and then to use each thing in the record.

I played with all sorts of stuff and found that to be the easiest.

The following are parts from an abandoned FrontMost project. I am using <r>
to indicate that the line has been artificially broken so that it will make
it through your mailer. You probably cannot just import and compile this
since it relys upon all the FrontMost project windows and such but it
should give you the general idea.

*************************************

-- This applet like most Mac applications except for HyperCard,
-- has no memory. To give it a memory (selected files, population
-- numbers, etc.) I have given it a perferences file named
-- "Survey Prefs".

-- prefsdata is the data contained in the prefs file
property prefsdata : {}

-- prefsfile is the finder name of the prefs file
property prefsfile : {"Survey Prefs"}
set prefsfile to prefsfile as text

-- prefspath is the path to the prefs file
property prefspath : {}
set prefspath to path to preferences folder
set prefspath to prefspath as string
set prefspath to prefspath & prefsfile

-- either opens and reads the prefsdata file or it creates it
-- and fills in the textbox names with default data
try
  set prefsref to open for access file prefspath
  read prefsref as record
  set prefsdata to result
  close access prefsref
on error
  set prefsref to open for access file prefspath with write permission
  -- population is an integer and the value displayed in the
  -- window is just a copy of the real data. The real data
  -- remains in the record and is never pulled from the window.
  set prefsdata to {thetable:"Survey Table", tablepath:"", <r>
    population:0, address:"", timestamp:"", replyMessage:"This <r>
    software counts email messages and replies back to the <r>
    sender with the current count."}
  set timestamp of prefsdata to current date
  write prefsdata to prefsref
  close access prefsref
end try

-- My fear is that I'll lose data so ... towards that end I am
-- saving everything to a data file whenever anything happens
-- and I am pulling data from the data file when a window is brought
-- forward.

-- These routines were the ones that handled the prefs data.
-- When a window was opened, closed or deactiviated, I did the "right"
-- thing with the preferences info.


-- Activated means that the thing becomes the frontmost window.
on activated theObj
  copy name of window of theObj to theWindow
  copy name of theObj to theButton
  if theWindow = "Status Report" then
  -- coersion required since "real" population is the record not
  -- the textbox
    copy population of prefsdata to populationText
    set contents of textbox "population" to populationText as text

    set contents of textbox "address" to address of prefsdata
    -- coersion required since "real" timestamp is the record not
    -- the textbox
    copy timestamp of prefsdata to timestamptext
    set contents of textbox "timestamp" to timestamptext as text
    set contents of textbox "replyMessage" to replyMessage of prefsdata
  else if theWindow = "TableServer" then
    set contents of textbox "thetable" to thetable of prefsdata
    set contents of textbox "tablepath" to tablepath of prefsdata
  end if
  continue activated theObj
end activated

-- Deactivated is when the window is transitioned to a window
-- position that is not front most.
on deactivated theObj
  copy name of window of theObj to theWindow
  copy name of theObj to theButton
  if theWindow = "Status Report" then
    -- contents of textbox "population" is not the real number,
    -- the record is
    set address of prefsdata to contents of textbox "address"
    -- contents of textbox "timestamp" is not the real number,
    -- the record is
    set replyMessage of prefsdata to contents of textbox "replyMessage"
  else if theWindow = "TableServer" then
    set thetable of prefsdata to contents of textbox "thetable"
    set tablepath of prefsdata to contents of textbox "tablepath"
  end if
  set prefsref to open for access file prefspath with write permission
  write prefsdata to prefsref
  close access prefsref
  continue deactivated theObj
end deactivated


-- A window that is closed never becomes deactivated so, I have to
-- duplicate the saving of data when it is closed. Closed also handles
-- when the application is quit.
on close theObj
  copy name of window of theObj to theWindow
  if theWindow = "Status Report" then
    -- contents of textbox "population" is not the real number,
    -- the record is
    set address of prefsdata to contents of textbox "address"
    -- contents of textbox "timestamp" is not the real number,
    -- the record is
    set replyMessage of prefsdata to contents of textbox "replyMessage"
  else if theWindow = "TableServer" then
    set thetable of prefsdata to contents of textbox "thetable"
    set tablepath of prefsdata to contents of textbox "tablepath"
  end if
  set prefsref to open for access file prefspath with write permission
  write prefsdata to prefsref
  close access prefsref
  continue close theObj
end close

*************************************
Kee Nethery

_________________________________________________________________
Kagi Engineering, 1442-A Walnut #362, Berkeley, CA 94709-1405 USA
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:04:31 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      MacPPP Control, AfterDark and AE, time idle

If you could help me with the following questions I would greatly
appreciate your suggestions.

Has anyone using MacPPP and the MacPPP control osax successfully used the
hard close command and if yes how?

Does anyone know of an Afterdark module or other screen-saverthat can send
appleevents when activated? This could be used for the problem Charles
Wiltgen describes where he wants to run a MM Director file after a certain
period of inactivity something that all screen-savers monitor.

Thanks for your time, Neil.

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 07:03:46 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Bill Innanen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: ScriptWizard 1.0 request

Jason Buberel <[e-mail]> asked,

>Despite the fact that you may be running into some problems with script
>wizard, what is your overall impression of the product?  I have just placed
>an order for it, since it was at an introductory price of just $45.  Although
>once the shipment comes in, I would be glad to experiment for you.  Are there
>some caveats to its use?  Some great benefits?

I really haven't had time to do much with it.  It seems to do everything
that the Script Editor does, plus.  (Plus cause no end of grief, so far.)
The big pluses that I've seen are the debugging features (single step,
variable watching, etc.) and the extra, built-in dictionaries (Scriptable
Finder, and System).

I was just getting set to start using it when this last fiasco hit me and I
had to spend an entire evening fooling with that instead.  Perhaps others
who have used it longer will post some impressions.

Bill

PS - Sorry about the delayed response.  I'm a digest subscriber.

--
Bill Innanen             (Internet) [e-mail]
#include <stdDisclaimers.h>   /* Unless otherwise noted */
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 07:15:09 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Bill Innanen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Re> ScriptWizard 1.0 request

"Klaus P. Fechner" <[e-mail]> writes:

>>Despite the fact that you may be running into some problems with script
>>wizard, what is your overall impression of the product?  I have just placed
>>an order for it, since it was at an introductory price of just $45.
>
>Where or how can one get this offer?

I got mine through Heizer Software.  I don't have the catalog anymore with
the 800 order number but my receipt gives their address as:

        Heizer Software
        POBox 232019,
        Pleasant Hill, CA 94523

        Service/Support 510-943-7667
        FAX [phone]

Perhaps someone who hasn't pitched the catalog has the number.

Bill

PS - Forgive the delayed or redundant response, I'm a digest subscriber.

--
Bill Innanen             (Internet) [e-mail]
#include <stdDisclaimers.h>   /* Unless otherwise noted */
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 08:51:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian C. Forney" <[e-mail]?>>
Subject:      Notification
In-Reply-To:  Your message <[e-mail]>
              of Thu, 21 Jul 1994 13:30:56 -0800

Is there an OSAX that will flash the application menu to notify a user?

Brian FOrney
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:59:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Chris Dowling <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Handling dialog box buttons

Scripters,
I use the following lines to login to a AppleShare server.  The user is
"password-less," because I wanted the script to continue without user
intervention.  Unfortunately, the login dialog box appears.  How can the
"OK" button be clicked or a return character be sent to this dialog box
with AppleScript so that the script can continue without user intervention?


-- Opens a login alias.
set login to (path to system folder as string) & "USER1"
tell finderLib to openFiles at {login}

Thanks,
Chris
~~~~
Chris Dowling, Manager, SOE Computer Lab,
1025 W. Johnson St., Madison, WI  53706, [phone]
[e-mail]
~~~~
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 21:06:39 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Neil Christie <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Handling dialog box buttons

Hi,

I have two suggestions to solve the problem Chris Dowling
([e-mail]) was asking about. One is to use the mount
volume scripting addition so no dialog box comes up on screen or to get and
register the autotype osax so that a return can then be sent. If memory
serves correctly both these files are available from gaea.

Hope this helps, Neil.

Neil Christie       |Voice/Fax: [phone]
14 West Castle Road |E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Edinburgh           |-------------------------------------
EH10 5AU            |Apple Macintosh Centris 660AV 8/230 CD.
Scotland            |System 7.1, running PPP on a 14.4K modem
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 01:25:05 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy Cemelli [remote]" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      walk folders skip every other one -Reply

Another solution is to run through the list backwards from item 5 to
item 4 to item 3 etc...that way regardless of whether folders are
deleted or not, you're sure that they're in the correct order...

>>> Steve Holden <[e-mail]> - 7/21/94 4:00 PM >>>
Hello!

This script, skips every other file in a folder.  Any idea why?
The folder is dropped on the application script. This is with the
scriptable Finder.

<<< start script >>>

script foo
        on open (theFile)
                tell application "Finder"
                        activate
                        delete theFile
                end tell
                return
        end open end script

on open (theFiles)
        walk folders theFiles with script foo end open

<<< end script >>>

Thanks!

Steve


><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
><   Steven D. Holden, Macintosh System/Applications Engineer,  ><
>< SAIC -> NRaD -> Project ICER, [e-mail], 619.553.6750 ><
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
><     Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are my own and do not     ><
><  necessarily reflect those of my employer or the government  ><
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:05:49 PDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jonathan Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject:      re-OwnerMachineNames

(COLOSSAL)PICTURES
                            interoffice memo     7/21/94        -
                                                                  11:54 AM
 regarding:re:OwnerMachineNames
>Does any one know how to get the owner name and machine name from a >remote
mounted volume? I know I can get that information from choose >application
but I would like to get it from some other method that >doesn't require end
user interaction.

In light of this thread, when you create an alias the info window on opening
shows the path to the original. When you open the 'alis' resource in
resEdit, however, it does not contain that information in a retreivable
form. My interest in this query is that I would like to be able to refer to
an Alias located in a folder when searching remote volumes over a network in
scripts. In this way, if I wanted to include or exclude a volume from my
search, all I would have to do is add or remove the corresponding alias of
the volume. Any help out there? Kind regards,

Jonathan Levy
[e-mail], [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:59:53 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Hello Everybody

Greetings everyone,
  My name is Peter and I'm a microbiology major at the University of
Hawai'i.  I've been writing AppleScripts for about 2 months now.
Specifically what I've been working on is an AppleScript interface to the
public-key encryption program MacPGP which is already AppleScriptable.

I've been distributing my scripts over the Internet to anyone who's
interested.  If you're interested in keeping your email or any file
private, you might want to check out MacPGP and my scripts.

Peter
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 09:23:24 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Michael Kerner <[e-mail]>
Subject:      repeat

This is a repeat of a previous post - since I had a problem getting properly
added to the group I never got any messages on it:

I want to get a good directory of standard AS commands, events, etc.  Tao is
a generally crummy book for this sort of thing.  I don't want to spend $140 to
get the Apple manual (yes, I know other stuff comes with it).

Second, I wanted to know how I could handle IDLE events similarly to the way
HyperCard does - so I can do some periodic folder checing and such.  Ideas?
--
Mikey
"With talent on loan from God - and half my brains tied behind my back to make
it fair." Rush Limbaugh
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 07:21:56 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: repeat

>I want to get a good directory of standard AS commands, events, etc.  Tao is
>a generally crummy book for this sort of thing.  I don't want to spend $140 to
>get the Apple manual (yes, I know other stuff comes with it).

You don't have to spend $140 to get Apple's manuals.  Apple's manuals are
Addison-Wesley books, available at any bookstore with a decent computer
book section.
   AppleScript Language Guide English Dialect   IBSN 0-201-40735-3
   AppleScript Scripting Additions Guide English Dialect   IBSN 0-201-40736-1
   AppleScript Finder Guide     IBSN 0-201-40910-0

These discuss version 1.1 of AppleScript, and the Scriptable Finder,  Tao
brought you version 1.0, and the plain old Finder.

>Second, I wanted to know how I could handle IDLE events similarly to the way
>HyperCard does - so I can do some periodic folder checing and such.  Ideas?

In a Script Application saved with Stay open checked, include an

on idle
   ...
   return n -- optional
end idle

handler.  This gets called regularly...each time it does return a number,
the next call will be after that number of seconds has passed.  If the idle
handler returns something other than a positive number, the previous
interval repeats...the initial interval is 30 seconds.  Remember that every
handler returns something...if the last executed statement is something
like

   set foo to 300 * 3

then the interval will become 900 seconds, probably not what you want.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 17:55:18 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christian Orellana <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Notifying a script on run/quit

Is there any way of notifying a script everytime an application is run or
quitted?

I would also like to repeat an earlier request:
Can somebody please confirm or disconfirm the incompatibility between the
"get finder selection" of Jon's commands and the "control strip" from
Apple.

Best regards -
Christian A.Borlund Orellana
Institute of Physics and Astronomy Aarhus University.
______________________________________________________
Internet e-mail:        [e-mail]
voice:                  [phone]
mail:                   Dr.Margrethesvej 11,3.th.
                        8200 Aarhus N, DENMARK.
______________________________________________________
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:50:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Notifying a script on run/quit

>Is there any way of notifying a script everytime an application is run or
>quitted?

At first glance, I see two, both (most conveniently) involving a stay-open
script application.

1.  Make sure the stay-open script app is running and has a unique
signature.  Teach the application of interest to send it suitable events
when the app starts and quits.  Only works for your own apps, or for apps
which provide for running scripts at startup and quit time (not a bad idea
for an attachable app).

or, 2.  In the idle handler of your stay-open script, watch to see whether
a process for the application of interest appears.  Jons commands and the
Scriptable Finder are two entities which provide the means to do so.


   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 15:52:50 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: AppleScript Items needed by applets

I make a folder in all my System Folders called "AppleScript Items" (named
after Apple Menu Items) and it's obviously real easy to find the path to
something in the Sys Folder on any Mac....
  ( path to System Folder) & "Apple Script Items:" & NeedThing ...
   And make sure you lock it via the Sharing.... menu
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 13:11:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Dennis Birch <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scripting Digest

Is there a way to receive this list as a digest instead of individual
messages? I could swear I've seen at least one message from somebody else
who claimed to be reading the list in digest form, but when I sent a DIGEST
command to the server, I received an error message in return.
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 18:36:57 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Hopkins <[e-mail]>
Subject:      ScriptWizard Feedback

>Date:    Fri, 22 Jul 1994 07:03:46 -0400
>From:    Bill Innanen <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: ScriptWizard 1.0 request
>
>Jason Buberel <[e-mail]> asked,
>
>>Despite the fact that you may be running into some problems with script
>>wizard, what is your overall impression of the product?  I have just placed
>>an order for it, since it was at an introductory price of just $45.  Although
>>once the shipment comes in, I would be glad to experiment for you.  Are there
>>some caveats to its use?  Some great benefits?
>
>I really haven't had time to do much with it.  It seems to do everything
>that the Script Editor does, plus.  (Plus cause no end of grief, so far.)
>The big pluses that I've seen are the debugging features (single step,
>variable watching, etc.) and the extra, built-in dictionaries (Scriptable
>Finder, and System).
>
>I was just getting set to start using it when this last fiasco hit me and I
>had to spend an entire evening fooling with that instead.  Perhaps others
>who have used it longer will post some impressions.
>
>Bill Innanen             (Internet) [e-mail]
>#include <stdDisclaimers.h>   /* Unless otherwise noted */
=========================================
Bill (and anyone else with ScriptWizard):

We are anxious to know the details of any problems that you are having with
ScriptWizard so that we can check them out immediately.  If they really are
down to ScW, we want to fix them!  If you and anyone else send your
problems to "[e-mail]", we'll adress them straight away.

Best Regards,

Mike Hopkins
President
Full Moon Software, Inc.

Mike Hopkins                |   PH:  [phone]
Full Moon Software, Inc.    |   FAX: [phone]
P.O. Box 700237             |   CIS: 70713,2664
San Jose, CA  95170         |   AOL: MHopkins
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 22:31:02 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Brian Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Is there a way to detect option key from script?

I have a "stay running" script that keeps track of a few items via
properties.  However I would like the ability to detect (at launch) if
these items should be cleared.  I was thinking it could be as simple as
detecting if the option key is help down (in which case it would post a
dialog to fill in the blanks again).

Is there an easy way to do this?

Can it be done w/o any special osaxen?

(btw, the applet monitors your express fax folder and sends you a page when
one comes in. So I want to be able to "forget" where the folder is and who
gets the page when the option key is held down)

__________________________________________________________________________
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San Jose, CA 95113                                        bbs 408-293-7290

Macintosh connectivity software:               Internet: [e-mail]
Communicate, ZMODEM Tool, PageNOW!               AppleLink, AOL: MARKSPACE
Mark/Space Softworks               Goodies at ftp.netcom.com in pub/mspace
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 23 Jul 1994 23:01:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Is there a way to detect option key from script?

>I have a "stay running" script that keeps track of a few items via
>properties.  However I would like the ability to detect (at launch) if
>these items should be cleared.  I was thinking it could be as simple as
>detecting if the option key is help down (in which case it would post a
>dialog to fill in the blanks again).
>
>Is there an easy way to do this?

In the useful Scripting Addition, "Jons Commands", check out
   keys pressed
which returns a list of the keys which are down.  If only the option key is
down, it returns  {"Option"}

if (keys pressed) contains "Option" then
   -- do your option key thing.


>Can it be done w/o any special osaxen?

Not that I know of, but I could easily have missed something.
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 24 Jul 1994 02:12:38 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Problem Pasting- Sticky Situation...

Sorry for the cheesy Subject field... I'm writing a script to concatinate
files which have been split by AOL.  The files are all dropped onto a droplet
and the concatinated in alphabetical order (the files end in -, .1, .2, .3,
etc.).

I'm writing this script to get myself familiar with AS.  I have AS v.1.0.1 on
a Performa 475.  At the paste command, I get the error, "Can't make data into
the expected type."  Could someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?  Any other
errors you can find or suggestions would be appreciated.


property filelist : {}
property x : 0

on open filelist
   tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
      activate
      repeat with x from 1 to count of filelist    --repeat with each file
dropped
         open item x of filelist
         select text of document 2  --select all text of file opened
         copy
         tell document 1
            select insertion point after paragraph -1  --insert text from doc
2 at end
            paste  --here's where I get the error
         end tell
         close document 2 saving no
      end repeat
      close document 1 saving in file "Hard Disk:*Concatinate* -Result"
saving yes
      quit
   end tell
end open
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 24 Jul 1994 17:46:46 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Ray <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Hello Everybody

>Greetings everyone,
>  My name is Peter and I'm a microbiology major at the University of
>Hawai'i.  I've been writing AppleScripts for about 2 months now.
>Specifically what I've been working on is an AppleScript interface to the
>public-key encryption program MacPGP which is already AppleScriptable.
>
>I've been distributing my scripts over the Internet to anyone who's
>interested.  If you're interested in keeping your email or any file
>private, you might want to check out MacPGP and my scripts.
>
>Peter

I would be very interested in checking out your scripts. I have MacPGP 2.6,
which is not scriptable. I have been using the AutoType OSAX and AutoClick
OSAX (included with registered versions of AutoType) to mimmick keyboard
strokes and mouse clicks in order to do things with MacPGP. I would be
happy to send you copies of my scripts as well.

Thanks,

Dave
[e-mail].

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Ray                Dream Designs          Music Composition
[e-mail]         PO Box 5631            Interactive Multimedia
510-527-9010             Berkeley CA 94705      Virtual Worlds
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:25:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      ScriptKey crashes

I discovered over the weekend that my ScriptKey FKEY is liable to crash within
certain applications. Specifically, I was getting reproducible crashes with
MacWrite Pro 1.5, always on the call to OSALoad.

Recalling certain (non-)release notes for Apple's Scripting Menu extension,
I restructured ScriptKey so that it posted a notification routine to invoke
the script, rather than doing it directly, and the crashes went away.

(Of course, I'm now hitting a different problem, namely the two-minute timeout
when invoking certain scripts from certain applications. During this time,
the ScriptKey Scripts file is locked (so that I can save any changes to the
script properties), so any attempt to invoke ScriptKey again during this
interval produces an error raspberry.)

Can anyone tell my _why_ I was getting the crashes, though? Is there some
reentrancy problem with Get/WaitNextEvent? I'm not being invoked at interrupt
level, so it can't be that.

Thanks for any ideas.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 24 Jul 1994 21:33:53 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Hello Everybody

>>Greetings everyone,
>>  My name is Peter and I'm a microbiology major at the University of
>>Hawai'i.  I've been writing AppleScripts for about 2 months now.
>>Specifically what I've been working on is an AppleScript interface to the
>>public-key encryption program MacPGP which is already AppleScriptable.
>>
>>I've been distributing my scripts over the Internet to anyone who's
>>interested.  If you're interested in keeping your email or any file
>>private, you might want to check out MacPGP and my scripts.
>>
>>Peter

>I would be very interested in checking out your scripts. I have MacPGP 2.6,
>which is not scriptable. I have been using the AutoType OSAX and AutoClick
>OSAX (included with registered versions of AutoType) to mimmick keyboard
>strokes and mouse clicks in order to do things with MacPGP. I would be
>happy to send you copies of my scripts as well.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave
>[e-mail].

I'd be interested in finding a copy of a scriptable MacPGP as well as seeing
some scripting examples.  Please either post your stuff here if it's not too
long, or send it to me.

Thanks a lot!  :-)

~Shaddar
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 14:36:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Spurious bundle bits

This kind of stuff hits you once in a while. There I was sorting through
a new bunch of downloads, and I suddenly noticed that the Finder was
describing all my scripting additions as "Object Database documents"! A
quick search confirmed that the culprit was the "Object Database" addition,
part of the GTQ Library 1.2.

Call me picky, but I get really annoyed about this kind of thing...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 24 Jul 1994 20:55:08 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScriptable MacPGP and AppleScripts

Greetings everyone,
   Because of a suprising amount of interest in my MacPGP AppleScripts, I
am posting my FAQ on where to get a copy of my scripts and where to get an
AppleScriptable version of MacPGP. For those of you out there who don't
know what PGP is, it is a freeware public-key encryption program that
allows you to encrypt files for yourself and for for other people.
Public-key encryption is especially useful for email because no secret
keys ever have to be exchanged.  PGP is available for a wide variety of
platforms, from UNIX to Windoze to Mac to Amiga.  So don't send your email
on a postcard for any snoop to read, PGP it!

My FAQ follows.  It is in a state of revision, so if you come across any
errors in it, please let me know so I can improve it.  If anyone out
there uses NewsWatcher, tell me if the URL's work.  Thanks.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

                   FAQ - Where to get MacPGP 2.6ui
                         Pretty Good Privacy
                 Public-key encryption for the masses

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Hello fellow Macintosh users,

If you are looking for MacPGP, the latest and (in my opinion) the best
version of PGP available is MacPGP 2.6ui v1.2.

MacPGP 2.6ui is fully compatible with MIT's MacPGP 2.6, but offers several
advantages, a chief one being that MacPGP 2.6ui is controllable via
AppleScript.  This is a very powerful feature, and pre-written
AppleScripts are already available.  A set of AppleScripts called the
Interim Macintosh PGP Interface (IMPI) support encryption, decryption, and
signing of files via drag-n-drop, finder selection, the clipboard, all
accessible from a system-wide menu.  Eudora AppleScripts also exist to
interface MacPGP with the popular Macintosh mail program Eudora.

MacPGP 2.6ui v1.2 is available via anonymous ftp from:

FTP SITE AND DIRECTORY (in standard URL form)
---------------------------------------------
* ftp://ftp.csn.net//mpj/README       /???/???/pgp/mac/

     The README file contains specific directions on the exact subdirectory to
     switch to obtain the files.  Please follow all relevant export regulations.

     CONTENTS
     --------
     MacPGP-2.6ui-v1.2.sit.hqx - NOT signed but has docs;
        I know this is not a good situation; Will replace with a signed
        full-English version soon.
     Source code;
     IMPI & Eudora AppleScripts


* ftp://ftp.darmstadt.gmd.de//pub/crypto/macintosh/MacPGP/2.6/

     CONTENTS
     --------
     MacPGP2.6uiV1.2.bin.english.hqx   581434  signed, but balloon help is in Ge
     MacPGP2.6ui_V1.2_sources.cpt.hqx  951319 - Source code

* ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/pub/virus/crypt/pgp/mac/

     CONTENTS CHECKED
     --------
     MacPGP2.6uiV1.2.bin.english.hqx   581434  signed, but balloon help is in Ge
     MacPGP2.6ui_V1.2_sources.cpt.hqx  951319 - Source code

* ftp://ftp.dsi.unimi.it//pub/security/PGP/

     CONTENTS
     --------
     MacPGP2.6ui_V1.2sources.cpt.hqx

* ftp://black.ox.ac.uk//src/security/

     CONTENTS CHECKED
     --------
     MacPGP2.6uiV1.2.bin.english.hqx    581434
     MacPGP2.6ui_V1.2_sources.cpt.hqx   951319

Commercial Users
----------------
Mac users who wish to use PGP for commercial use are out of luck for the time
being: ViaCrypt has still not released their version of MacPGP.  According to
the company, they are expecting to begin shipping in early September.  The
program itself will be very similar to MIT's MacPGP 2.6, but with a license
allowing its commercial use.


New Users
---------
If you are totally lost as to what to do once you obtain MacPGP, there is
a MacPGP "Frequently Asked Questions" document available via anonymous ftp
from:

FTP SITE AND DIRECTORY (in standard URL form)
---------------------------------------------
* ftp://ftp.netcom.com//pub/qwerty/

     CONTENTS
     --------
     How.to.MacPGP2.3a - FAQ for how to get started using MacPGP

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     If you wish me to add something else to this FAQ, please let me know.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:22:51 U
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "ESPINAR, Pablo" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Mounting devices

Hi, all
Anybody knows if I can create one Applescript for mounting a remote disk in
my local computer with Appleshare Pro File Server ?
Thanks in advance...

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                               |
| Pablo Espinar                         Tel:    + 34 3 2044000  |
| IESE                                  Fax:    + 34 3 2801177  |
| Av. Pearson 21                                                |
| 08034 Barcelona (Spain)               E-mail: [e-mail] |
|                                                               |
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 02:06:55 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Brian Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Is there a way to detect option key from script?

>In the useful Scripting Addition, "Jons Commands", check out
>   keys pressed
>which returns a list of the keys which are down.  If only the option key is
>down, it returns  {"Option"}
>
>if (keys pressed) contains "Option" then
>   -- do your option key thing.

Thanks.  Just in case they don't have Jon's commands, this is what I am doing:

        -- Should we clear stuff?
        try
                if (keys pressed) contains "Option" then
                        copy "" to Subscriber
                        copy "" to WatchFolder
                end if
        on error
                -- we catch errors in case they don't have Jon's Commands
        end try

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=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 02:26:36 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Brian Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Example of a script meant for Eudora/Please Notify?

Are there any sample apple scripts floating about that are meant to be
called by the "Please Notify" feature of Eudora?  I'm trying to write my
own, but these are not the easiest to get started!
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 06:43:40 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Herb Schilling <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Screen capture from a script ?

Hello,

 Is there a way to do a capture of a window from a script ? The screen
capture programs I know of ( FlashIt, ScreenShot, SnapJot  ) trigger the
capture using  some keystroke but all  mechanisms I can think of to send
keystrokes to the Finder from a script don't  work ( QuickKeys,
AutoType,etc... ). I guess this is because the screen capture extension
never gets to see the keystrokes.

 Any solutions, commercial or otherwise, are welcome.

 Thanks.

--
Herb Schilling NASA Lewis Research Center 21000 Brookpark Road Mail Stop 142-4
Cleveland Ohio 44135 [phone] Fax:[phone] [e-mail]
AppleLink: SCHILLING.H
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:02:03 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nathaniel Comfort at Cold Spring Harbor Lab <[e-mail]>
Subject:      scripting a yearbook

I am beginning to work on a script or set of scripts to automate production
of our staff yearbook. The book is produced in Quark. Each record consists
of a small photo and four lines of information (name, title, etc.). The
book has about 550 records, arranged in pages of 16. I am planning to keep
the text and maybe a thumbnail of the photo in a FileMaker Pro database,
and to use a scriptable image database such as Kudo to retrieve and catalog
the photos from a CD or optical drive.

I want the script to do basically a fancy mail merge, retrieving the data
from FMPro and from the image database, creating new records in Quark based
on a template, and putting in the right data.

1) Has anyone out there tried such a thing? Can you offer advice, pieces of
scripts, empathy? :)

2) Quark comes with a Frontier script that does a mail merge. But I have
Applescript. The Frontier runtime won't let me look at the scripts and the
whole Quark package is so seamless I can't even FIND the scripts! Is it
possible to translate from Frontier to AS, or do I have to either buy
Frontier or reinvent the wheel?

Thanks,
Nathaniel Comfort
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 09:43:45 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacPPP Control, AfterDark and AE, time idle

At  9:04 7/22/94 +0000, Neil Christie wrote:

>Does anyone know of an Afterdark module or other screen-saverthat can send
>appleevents when activated? This could be used for the problem Charles
>Wiltgen describes where he wants to run a MM Director file after a certain
>period of inactivity something that all screen-savers monitor.

Well, I don't know of any (which basically means Berkeley Systems probably
doesn't make any; I don't have too much contact with 3rd-party modules for
AD, other than the 'cute' ones).

How about writing one? BSI for a while was releasing programming examples
to make your own module.  Given that the After Dark Module Contest still
happens every year, I'm sure they'd be willing to offer some sort of
minimal help in designing something (this isn't official.  If you think I
speak for them, you're wrong.).

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:02:24 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: scripting a yearbook

>I am beginning to work on a script or set of scripts to automate production
>of our staff yearbook. The book is produced in Quark. Each record consists
>of a small photo and four lines of information (name, title, etc.). The
>book has about 550 records, arranged in pages of 16. I am planning to keep
>the text and maybe a thumbnail of the photo in a FileMaker Pro database,
>and to use a scriptable image database such as Kudo to retrieve and catalog
>the photos from a CD or optical drive.
>
>I want the script to do basically a fancy mail merge, retrieving the data
>from FMPro and from the image database, creating new records in Quark based
>on a template, and putting in the right data.
>
>1) Has anyone out there tried such a thing? Can you offer advice, pieces of
>scripts, empathy? :)

I only know about Frontier users who are doing such things, several on a
much larger scale than your project.  That doesn't mean that AppleScript
won't also do the job (I'm reasonably sure it will)...it does mean that I
field the Tech Support questions which come up when Frontier is used.


--John (speaking for himself)

--John W. Baxter    Port Ludlow, WA USA   [e-mail]
  UserLand Software support
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:15:50 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacPPP Control, AfterDark and AE, time idle

>At  9:04 7/22/94 +0000, Neil Christie wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know of an Afterdark module or other screen-saverthat can send
>>appleevents when activated? This could be used for the problem Charles
>>Wiltgen describes where he wants to run a MM Director file after a certain
>>period of inactivity something that all screen-savers monitor.
>
>Well, I don't know of any (which basically means Berkeley Systems probably
>doesn't make any; I don't have too much contact with 3rd-party modules for
>AD, other than the 'cute' ones).
>
>How about writing one? BSI for a while was releasing programming examples
>to make your own module.  Given that the After Dark Module Contest still
>happens every year, I'm sure they'd be willing to offer some sort of
>minimal help in designing something (this isn't official.  If you think I
>speak for them, you're wrong.).
>

After Dark installs a Gestalt selector which returns a function which when
called gets and sets information regarding the state of After Dark (and,
thus, gets the idleness of the system, among other things).

I forget the details, and what I have is old anyhow.  Berkeley will no
doubt supply something newer.

So...you may not need an After Dark module...an osax which calls the
Gestalt selector and then calls the function appropriately may be enough.
Hmmm...I just made the mistake of looking for the Gestalt selector(s)
involved on a machine where I don't have After Dark installed.  For some
reason, that doesn't work.

BTW, there is more than one selector involved...at least one is agreed to
among Berkeley and the other major screen saver players (or was).

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:58:11 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Shaff <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Launching applications on remote machine?

Greetings,

After trying some experiments, reading the faq, and trying to systematically
approach the problem, I turn to the chaos of the net.

I am trying to lauch an application on a distant machine.  Let's take as an
example our local hero, "Scriptable Text Editor."  It's remote linking
check-box is set.  The distant machine's program linking check-box is set. And
to make matters more mouth-watering close, I can see the application from
'choose application' WHEN, and only when, the application is running already.

What am I overlooking?

Thank-you,

Michael
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:38:21 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Screen capture from a script ?
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Mon, 25 Jul 94 06:43:40 CDT"

Herb,

> Is there a way to do a capture of a window from a script ? The screen
>capture programs I know of ( FlashIt, ScreenShot, SnapJot  ) trigger the
>capture using  some keystroke but all  mechanisms I can think of to send
>keystrokes to the Finder from a script don't  work ( QuickKeys,
>AutoType,etc... ). I guess this is because the screen capture extension
>never gets to see the keystrokes.

If I'm not mistaken, there was a screen capture osax on the AppleScript beta
CD. I don't think it's available in any of the current crop of osaxen, though
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

You should also be able to use the Execute FKey command in Jon's commands to
take a snapshot of the screen.


pf
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 16:09:13 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Screen capture from a script ?

>Herb,
>
>> Is there a way to do a capture of a window from a script ? The screen
>>capture programs I know of ( FlashIt, ScreenShot, SnapJot  ) trigger the
>>capture using  some keystroke but all  mechanisms I can think of to send
>>keystrokes to the Finder from a script don't  work ( QuickKeys,
>>AutoType,etc... ). I guess this is because the screen capture extension
>>never gets to see the keystrokes.
>
KeyQuencer has facilities to capture a selected area of the screen from a
script, and I just used Frontier (AppleScript does as well) to have it
issue a Cmd-Shift-3 to get a pict file of the screen.

        David

David Lewis     Seagate Technology      [phone]  [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 11:11:27 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Owen Watson <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Can't get event dictionary

I'm trying to contact a program on a remote machine with

tell "Program name" of machine "Machine name"

(no zones)

and I keep getting the message: Can't get event dictionary. It works fine
when the program is running locally.

I'm running AS 1.0 (still waiting for the upgrade disk).

Any clues?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Owen Watson, The Royal Society of NZ, PO Box 598, Wellington, New Zealand
Internet [e-mail]  Ph: [phone] Fax: [phone]
The gateway to New Zealand science: http://www.rsnz.govt.nz/
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 22:12:45 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Items skipped in "walking"

In catching up I see talk of the file-walker skipping a file when one is
deleted.
    For the Quarksters among us, be forewarned that the same thing happens if
you tell Quark to "delete paragraphs 1 thru 2" of a text box....
    First it deletes paragraph 1, which makes paragraph 3 the second one, so
when it deletes paragraph 2 it's really 3.
   To actually delete paragraphs 1 and 2, I tell...
   repeat 2 times
       delete paragraph 1 of etc
   end repeat
   This one is worth remembering for those of us that need to delete stuff
when automating page production (like stocks!)

Jeff Beebe / Gannett
[e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 22:13:03 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: PowerMac fixes

Good to see Apple has fixed a couple OSAXEN for Power Macs .... has anybody
fixed  Dialog Runner ("run dialog") that came with the BMUG Tao?
    GTQ, if you're reading ... it appears "set printer to" doesn't work with
PowerMac either (nor does Rinaldi's XCMD OSAX cousin ChoosePrinter).....

Jeff Beebe / Gannett
[e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 25 Jul 1994 22:17:27 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Launching applications on remote machine?

>From what I understand, AppleScript cannot cross machines to run
applications.  I think it was implemented as some kind of security
consideration... I don't really know.  But the end result is you can't launch
them.

What can you do?

You can design a client script which you put in the starup folder of each
machine.  The scripts runs all the time, (using 200 K of memory), but is
ready to accept commands from your machine.  This way you can tell the client
script to do whatever is necessary, and since it is on the remote machine it
has the access priviledges to launch applications.

Hope this helps! :)

~Shaddar
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 01:13:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Launching applications on remote machine?

>From:    [e-mail]
>>From what I understand, AppleScript cannot cross machines to run
>applications.  I think it was implemented as some kind of security
>consideration... I don't really know.  But the end result is you can't laun=
ch
>them.
>
>What can you do?

You can tell the Finder to launch an application.  All System 7 Finders can
do this.  The security feature is simply that the Finder only accepts 2
commands from remote users.  These are open (i.e. launch) and print (as in
documents, not windows).

The trick is that you need to know EXACTLY where the file you want to
launch is.  That is, you need to know the full pathname of the file.  Then
you run one of the routines below (from the Finder Scripting Toolkit, a
must-have item from gaea).

>From:    Owen Watson <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Can't get event dictionary
>
>I'm trying to contact a program on a remote machine with
>
>tell "Program name" of machine "Machine name"
>
>(no zones)
>
>and I keep getting the message: Can't get event dictionary. It works fine
>when the program is running locally.

Owen, you need to launch the application first.  AppleScript can't
automatically launch the file, although it should be able to get the
dictionary if the remote machine's disk was mounted.  By launching the app
first, AS can then send it the ascrgdut event which returns the dictionary
(assuming AppleScript is installed on the remote machine to handle the
event).

=46or the MIME-impaired, there are some funky characters in these scripts:
    =AC is option-L or option-return
    =AB is << option-\
    =BB is >> option-shift-\

Jon

--      RemoteOpenObjects
--
--      Opens a list of Finder objects, as if they were double-clicked in th=
e
--      Finder.
--      This variant sends the command to a remote Finder in the same zone.
--      The aliases must be meaningful to this remote Finder.
--
--      Parameters
--              cont (alias) : folder containing the objects.
--              objs (alias list) : objects to open.
--              mach (string) : name of remote machine.
--
--      Examples
--              RemoteOpenObjects(alias "Disk:", =AC
--              {alias "Disk:file", alias "Disk:folder:"}, "Bob's Mac")
--
on RemoteOpenObjects(cont, objs, mach)
        tell application "Finder" of machine mach to =ABevent FNDRsope=BB =
=AC
        cont given =ABclass fsel=BB:objs
end RemoteOpenObjects

--
--      RemoteOpenObjectsWithZone
--
--      Opens a list of Finder objects, as if they were double-clicked in th=
e
--      Finder.
--      This variant sends the command to a remote Finder in any zone.
--      The aliases must be meaningful to this remote Finder.
--
--      Parameters
--              cont (alias) : folder containing the objects.
--              objs (alias list) : objects to open.
--              mach (string) : name of remote machine.
--              zn (string) : name of zone.
--
--      Examples
--              RemoteOpenObjectsWithZone(alias "Disk:", =AC
--              {alias "Disk:file", alias "Disk:folder:"}, =AC
--              "Bob's Mac", "2nd floor")
--
on RemoteOpenObjectsWithZone(cont, objs, mach, zn)
        tell application "Finder" of machine mach of zone zn to =AC
        =ABevent FNDRsope=BB cont given =ABclass fsel=BB:objs
end RemoteOpenObjectsWithZone
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 05:07:31 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Bob Snyder <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScriptable MacPGP and AppleScripts

At 10:55 AM 7/24/94, Pete Hinely wrote:

>Greetings everyone,
>   Because of a suprising amount of interest in my MacPGP AppleScripts, I
>am posting my FAQ on where to get a copy of my scripts and where to get an
>AppleScriptable version of MacPGP. For those of you out there who don't
>know what PGP is, it is a freeware public-key encryption program that
>allows you to encrypt files for yourself and for for other people.
>Public-key encryption is especially useful for email because no secret
>keys ever have to be exchanged.  PGP is available for a wide variety of
>platforms, from UNIX to Windoze to Mac to Amiga.  So don't send your email
>on a postcard for any snoop to read, PGP it!

Please be aware that use of a "ui" version of PGP withing the US is very
likely a infringement of patents held by Public Key Partners and RSADSI.
PGP 2.6 (and MacPGP2.6) is fully legal, although I don't know if the Apple
Event changes have been added to the US-legal version of PGP.

Bob

--
Bob Snyder N2KGO                                     MIME, RIPEM mail accepted
[e-mail]                       finger for RIPEM public key
         When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:41:47 +0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Todd Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scriptable News client?

Has anybody found a Usenet News reader which is scriptable? I looked
at the latest NewsWatcher expecting it to be scriptable but it isn't.

TIA,

Todd
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 00:37:26 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Launching applications on remote machine?
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Jul 1994 [e-mail] wrote:

> You can design a client script which you put in the starup folder of each
> machine.  The scripts runs all the time, (using 200 K of memory), but is
> ready to accept commands from your machine.  This way you can tell the client
> script to do whatever is necessary, and since it is on the remote machine it
> has the access priviledges to launch applications.
>

Actually most scripts run fine if you set their memory way below the
default 200K.  I've had no problems running scripts at 20K for example.

-peter
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 07:32:11 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         John Schettino <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client?

>Has anybody found a Usenet News reader which is scriptable? I looked
>at the latest NewsWatcher expecting it to be scriptable but it isn't.
>
>TIA,
>
>Todd

At the end of this month I'll be releasing my runner-up in the AppleScript
Hacks contest, the Netnews Grazer. Using the TCP/IP osax and an NNTP news
server, you can "script" the news.

- john

-----------------------------------------
[e-mail]             GTE Laboratories
John Schettino                Waltham, MA
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:47:01 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Anguish <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Available disk space

Hi there, Someone said it the other day: "I'ts so obvious I feel embarrased
to ask it ...". Can any one help me with a script to get the available disk
space ? Any ideas, With Much Thanks, David A.

----------------------------------------------
David Anguish, SA/SIC
EPFL, CP 121 - 1015 Lausanne - CH
E-mail: [e-mail]
Phone:  [phone]
----------------------------------------------
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 03:03:23 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript Exit()?

Hi, maybe someone out there familiar with AppleScript can help me with
this question.  Is there a good way to exit from scripts immediately?  I
know if I was in the "main" procedure, I could just use a "return"
statement, but how do you quit a script immediately if you are in a
procedure?

Here is an example of what I mean:

Foo()

on Foo()
  do something
  do something else
  if exitFlag then
    QUIT THIS SILLY SCRIPT NOW (AT THIS STATEMENT AND NO LATER!)
  end if
  do something else
end Foo


Anybody know an easy way to do this?  It seems like it should be such a
simple thing to do, but I have spent hours trying to figure out a solution.

Thanks in advance,
pH
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 07:42:48 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript Exit()?

At  3:03 7/26/94 -1000, Pete Hinely wrote:
>Hi, maybe someone out there familiar with AppleScript can help me with
>this question.  Is there a good way to exit from scripts immediately?  I
>know if I was in the "main" procedure, I could just use a "return"
>statement, but how do you quit a script immediately if you are in a
>procedure?
[...]
>  if exitFlag then
>    QUIT THIS SILLY SCRIPT NOW (AT THIS STATEMENT AND NO LATER!)

Actually, AppleScript 1.2 (now in beta release), has something that even
has a very similar syntax --

if exitFlag then
        QuitRightNowNoKiddingIMeanIt
end if

-roy

(err, OK, OK, just making fun of AS's near-english programming language)


Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:58:20 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Dean J. Spearman" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Set data in Filemaker

Does anyone know if it is possible to use the "set data" command to set a
specific subset of cells in a given filemaker database?  (and if so what is
the correct syntax).  I know this works for Get data but I haven't figured
out how to do it with set data.  I suppose I could use multiple set data
statements but I can't belive that this wouldn't have a significant
performance hit.

Even better, is their any way to use "create record with data" to do the
same thing with a new record
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 11:00:18 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Danny Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AppleScript Exit()?

>Is there a good way to exit from scripts immediately?

The statement

    error number -128

is the same as clicking the Cancel button in a dialog.  All processing stops
right there.
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:16:24 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nick Arnett <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client?

At  5:41 PM 7/26/94 +0800, Todd Hooper wrote:
>Has anybody found a Usenet News reader which is scriptable? I looked
>at the latest NewsWatcher expecting it to be scriptable but it isn't.

I'd like the same.  The closest I've found are a couple of HyperCard-based
readers that thus could be scripted indirectly, of course.

I think this is from sumex-aim:

>/mac/util/comm/newsfetcher0.45.cpt.hqx
>  75     6/19/94    BinHex4.0,Compact1.34
>
>   A HyperCard stack to download news articles from a NNTP server and
>   save them into digest text files.

There's also StackedNews.

Nick


Multimedia Computing Corp.
Campbell, California
----------------------------------------------------------
"We are surrounded by insurmountable opportunity." -- Pogo
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:19:04 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nick Arnett <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client?

At  7:32 AM 7/26/94 -0400, John Schettino wrote:

>At the end of this month I'll be releasing my runner-up in the AppleScript
>Hacks contest, the Netnews Grazer. Using the TCP/IP osax and an NNTP news
>server, you can "script" the news.

I'll look forward to that.  By any wild chance, are you integrating
AppleSearch?  That's what I'd really like to see.  Unfortunately,
AppleSearch isn't yet scriptable, though it does support events.

Nick


Multimedia Computing Corp.
Campbell, California
----------------------------------------------------------
"We are surrounded by insurmountable opportunity." -- Pogo
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:21:06 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Screen capture from a script ?

--------

Herb,

>Is there a way to do a capture of a window from a script ? The screen
>capture programs I know of ( FlashIt, ScreenShot, SnapJot  ) trigger the
>capture using  some keystroke but all  mechanisms I can think of to send
>keystrokes to the Finder from a script don't  work ( QuickKeys,
>AutoType,etc... ). I guess this is because the screen capture extension
>never gets to see the keystrokes.

Just a postscript to this question. I did some poking around last night and
found that a Screen Dump OSAX did ship on the AppleScript beta CD.

But, I also remembered Ed Lai's Clipboard Magician
(ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/scriptableapps/ClipboardMagician.76.sit.
hqx).
It has a couple of grab commands that might allow you to grab the window or a
portion of the screen. Didn't check the docs (couldn't find them); just looked
at the application's dictionary.

Ed's on the list, so he may comment.

pf


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fred Terry, The Alta Group, [e-mail], +1 913/841-1283
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:59:41 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Available disk space

>Hi there, Someone said it the other day: "I'ts so obvious I feel embarrased
>to ask it ...". Can any one help me with a script to get the available disk
>space ? Any ideas, With Much Thanks, David A.
>

For the Scriptable Finder, and English AppleScript, it's like this:

tell application "Finder" -- scriptable Finder only
    free space of disk "Vashon"
end tell


In the States, Scriptable Finder is routinely available...I don't know
about over there.  It will come with System 7.5.

There are no doubt also Scripting Additions which will do the job...I no
longer care, since I run Scriptable Finder.  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:52:45 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client?

>Has anybody found a Usenet News reader which is scriptable? I looked
>at the latest NewsWatcher expecting it to be scriptable but it isn't.
>
        No scriptable clients taht I know of.  It's on John's list for
NewsWatcher, but it;s not a high priority since scripting News isn't all
that it's cracked up to be.

        What would you want to script??


LDR

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Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:25:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Edmund Lai <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Screen capture from a script ?

>--------
>
>Herb,
>
>>Is there a way to do a capture of a window from a script ? The screen
>>capture programs I know of ( FlashIt, ScreenShot, SnapJot  ) trigger the
>>capture using  some keystroke but all  mechanisms I can think of to send
>>keystrokes to the Finder from a script don't  work ( QuickKeys,
>>AutoType,etc... ). I guess this is because the screen capture extension
>>never gets to see the keystrokes.
>
>Just a postscript to this question. I did some poking around last night and
>found that a Screen Dump OSAX did ship on the AppleScript beta CD.
>
>But, I also remembered Ed Lai's Clipboard Magician
>(ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu//applescript/scriptableapps/ClipboardMagician.76.sit.
>hqx).
>It has a couple of grab commands that might allow you to grab the window or a
>portion of the screen. Didn't check the docs (couldn't find them); just looked
>at the application's dictionary.
>
>Ed's on the list, so he may comment.
>
>pf
>
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Fred Terry, The Alta Group, [e-mail], +1 913/841-1283

I probably would not recommand either the dump screen osax or Clipboard
Magician. Clipboard Magician is a collection of independent code
resource. The screen dump code resource expects the user to manually
select the rectangle with the mouse, and it would only do a 1 bit
screen dump. The screen dump osax actually just stole code from the
Clipboard Magican and so it also just do a 1 bit screen dump.

The easiest way to do it is have an osax that would do execute FKEY 3.
There should be osax such osax out there. If not it would be trival
and very useful to write such an osax where you can execute a FKEY by
either number of by FKEY name.

However, there is a difference between what FKEY 3 does and what
dump screen osax/Clipboard Magician does. FKEY 3 generates a PICT
file, which I suspect is what is asked for. However dump screen
osax would return PICT as result to AppleScript, which AppleScript
can then manipulate, such as scale, rotate, store in the scrapbook etc.
Unfortunately we do not have a lot of application that offers scripting
for graphical data. Clipboard Magican offers a few, but they are fairly
simple minded ones. One advance of AppleScript over HyperTalk is that
AppleScript variable can be of any data type, including PICT, so PICT
can be handled directly inside AppleScript. So it is unfortunate that
there are very few application or osax that let you manipulate such
non-textual data, and people still use AppleScript exclusively for
textual data.

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:40:00 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]>
Organization: Sage Design
Subject:      Frontier records & lists

I have question regarding accessing a list of records in Frontier.
When scripting Quark, you can do something like

   get(page[1].picturebox[color == "foo"].name)

and you will be returned a list of the names of all the picture boxes one
page 1 that have the color "foo".

Is there any way to do something like this with a very large list of records
in Frontier? I have created a type of index for 2500 illustrations (stock
number, folder name, and file name), and want to be able to get all the file
names that pertain to a certain item number. The client for whose jobs I
created these scripts is organizationally challenged and has several
duplicate stock numbers for completely different products.

I want to be able to find all the records that contain the same value in one
particular field  without looping through the entire list and checking the
value of that field. For example I would like to be able to do something like


  foo = a very large list of records
  bar = foo['fld1' == "something"]

and have bar be a list of either the records themselves or even the index
values of the list elements that match.
I am just wondering if Frontier can do this but I haven't figured it out how,
or if it can't.  If it can't, consider it a suggestion.

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=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:50:00 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was [e-mail]
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client?

>>Has anybody found a Usenet News reader which is scriptable? I looked
>>at the latest NewsWatcher expecting it to be scriptable but it isn't.
>>
>        No scriptable clients taht I know of.  It's on John's list for
>NewsWatcher, but it;s not a high priority since scripting News isn't all
>that it's cracked up to be.
>
>        What would you want to script??

Good question.  Maybe when John implements filtering, you might want to
take a daily disk dump of selected postings?

Since NewsWatcher implements many functions through menu commands, perhaps
my Menu Events extension and scripting addition package might do the trick.
James Davis's AutoType OSAX would be a help as well.

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/addons/Menu_Events_1.1.2.sit.hqx

Fully documented and free.  Have fun.

Ross Brown - AWOL Software Productions
PO Box 24207, 300 Eagleson Road, Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2M 2C3
publisher of AWOL Utilities - "the best deal in freeware!"
[e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 11:15:20 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Gabriel Lawrence <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scriptable terminal emulator?

any one know of a free probram like zterm that supports scripting?

thanx a million!

-Gabe

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                            UC San Diego
                  Wrk: 619.534.2040 Hme: 619.455.6506
                     http://sio.ucsd.edu/~gabe

        You know that the Pentium TV commercial with the flying chip
        touting how fantastically fast the Pentium is? That commercial
        was created on a *Macintosh* 840AV running the ElectricImage
        Animation System. Now, if Apple would only advertise *that*.
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:02:31 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Chris Dowling <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Update on handling dialog box buttons

I recently asked for help handling dialog box buttons with AppleScript.
Thank you to all who responded.  The following is a description of the
problem and possible solutions.

PROBLEM:
I wanted to open an AppleShare volume alias with the following script.
(The alias is for a user without a password.)  I expected the login dialog
box to flip by, but it sat there waiting for action from the user.  How can
this login be automated so that the dialog box won't prompt for user
response?

-- Opens an login alias.
set login to (path to system folder as string) & "USER1"
tell finderLib to openFiles at {login}

SOLUTIONS:
1. The mountVol scripting addition (osax) works when "Guest" (<Any User> in
AppleShare) login is enabled .  The following command logs in as <Any User>
on the KODIAK volume of the BEAR server in the MAMMAL zone.  The one
drawback is that guest access allows anyone to login to the server.
MountVol can be retrieved via anonymous FTP:
/applescript/osaxen/MountVolosax.hqx at  gaea.kgs.ukans.edu

MountVolume zone "MAMMAL" server "BEAR" volume "KODIAK"

2. The Okey Dokey control panel device works when the "user without a
password" causes the login dialog box to appear.  This INIT/CDEV "presses"
the default button in modal dialogs after a time limit.  The control panel
lets one set the time limit by minutes and seconds.  The one drawback is
that the time limit is global.  So, it presses the default button in other
modal dialogs, for example, print dialog boxes.  Retrieve Okey Dokey via
anonymous FTP in
/mirror/umich-mac/system.extensions/cdev/okeydokey1.01.sit.hqx at
nic.switch.ch (130.59.1.40).

3.  The AutoType scripting addition (osax) was another solution I tried.
Its script command sent a return to the Mac, but I just couldn't direct its
keystrokes to the login dialog box.  Maybe after a time I'll improve my
aim.  AutoType can be retrieved via anonymous FTP:
/applescript/osaxen/AutoType1.0.sit.hqx at gaea.kgs.ukans.edu

Happy scripting,
Chris
~~~~
Chris Dowling, Manager, SOE Computer Lab,
1025 W. Johnson St., Madison, WI  53706, [phone]
[e-mail]
~~~~
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 12:17:51 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable terminal emulator?

At 11:15 AM 7/26/94, Gabriel Lawrence wrote:
>any one know of a free probram like zterm that supports scripting?
>
        ZTerm is not free, it is a shareware program.  If you use it, you
must pay for it.

        That aside, the only scriptable communications program at this time
is SITcomm from Aladdin Systems, Inc.   It is a commercial product and is
quite reasonably priced ($65 mailorder, $45 as a sidegrade from Aladdin).

Leonard

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:43:07 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Set data in Filemaker
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Dean J. Spearman" at Jul 26, 94 09:58:20 am

--Dean J. Spearman wrote:
>
>Does anyone know if it is possible to use the "set data" command to set a
>specific subset of cells in a given filemaker database?  (and if so what is
>the correct syntax).  I know this works for Get data but I haven't figured
>out how to do it with set data.  I suppose I could use multiple set data
>statements but I can't belive that this wouldn't have a significant
>performance hit.

    I believe the sytax works something like the following:

tell application "FileMaker Pro"
    set field "Cell A" to {"Value 1", "value 2", ... "Value n"}
end tell

    This will set the value of cell "Cell A" in the first n records of
the current found set to the successive items of the list. Think of it
as the quick way to perform multiple "Set Cell "Cell A"" statements.

>Even better, is their any way to use "create record with data" to do the
>same thing with a new record

    Good question. I really don't know if there is a way to do this.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 12:59:27 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons

At 14:02 7/26/94 -0500, Chris Dowling wrote:

>SOLUTIONS:
>1. The mountVol scripting addition (osax) works when "Guest" (<Any User> in
>AppleShare) login is enabled .  The following command logs in as <Any User>
>on the KODIAK volume of the BEAR server in the MAMMAL zone.  The one
>drawback is that guest access allows anyone to login to the server.
>MountVol can be retrieved via anonymous FTP:
>/applescript/osaxen/MountVolosax.hqx at  gaea.kgs.ukans.edu
>
>MountVolume zone "MAMMAL" server "BEAR" volume "KODIAK"

This is cool and exactly what I wanted (and didn't think I could do) for
something I'm working on right now, only the machine *does* require a login
name and password (and it's a machine that holds our financial records, so
I'd rather not enable guest access).  Any way, either with this osax or
with another one to log in as a specific person?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 16:11:59 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Lee Hoong <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Set data in Filemaker

>--Dean J. Spearman wrote:
>>
>>Does anyone know if it is possible to use the "set data" command to set a
>>specific subset of cells in a given filemaker database?  (and if so what is
>>the correct syntax).  I know this works for Get data but I haven't figured
>>out how to do it with set data.  I suppose I could use multiple set data
>>statements but I can't belive that this wouldn't have a significant
>>performance hit.
>
>    I believe the sytax works something like the following:
>
>tell application "FileMaker Pro"
>    set field "Cell A" to {"Value 1", "value 2", ... "Value n"}
>end tell
>
>    This will set the value of cell "Cell A" in the first n records of
>the current found set to the successive items of the list. Think of it
>as the quick way to perform multiple "Set Cell "Cell A"" statements.
>
>>Even better, is their any way to use "create record with data" to do the
>>same thing with a new record
>
>    Good question. I really don't know if there is a way to do this.
>
>-Hades

You can certainly do this.  For example,


tell application "FileMaker Pro"
        set Record 1 of Database 1 to {"1", "2nd", "Third"}
        Create New Record With Data {"2", "second 2nd", "4"}
end tell

will set the first three fields of record 1 to "1", "2nd", and "Third" then
create a new record with the first 3 fields having values "2", "second
2nd", and "4".

At least, this works with FMP 2.1v2. ;-)

Lee.

Lee K. Hoong
Emory University
Atlanta, GA 30322
Internet: [e-mail]
AOL: LHOONG
==========================
Opinions and comments expressed are mine; I do not represent Emory
University.
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 16:10:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Kevin A. Gemeinhart" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AS / FMPro Date Reference

I am looking for the correct reference form to tell AppleScript to set a
FMPro DATE field, "TDays Date" to the AS current date cDate.  The
following have been attempted so far:

    set cDate to Current Date

    tell application "FileMaker Pro"
                tell Database DBName
                            tell Layout 0

                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate as Date
                    -- unable to coerce
                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate as Text
                    -- invalid date supplied
                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate without time and

                        day as Date
                    -- FM doesn't understand  message
                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate without time and

                        day as Text
                    -- FM doesn't understand  message

I don't want to have to change the FMPro field to TEXT.

Thanks,

Kevin
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:42:22 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         MR Mac - Michael Robertson <[e-mail]>
Subject:      An Applescript to play a System 7 2x clickable sound - possible?

I need a script to play a System 7 sound file. You know the ones you can
double click and automatically play. Any ideas?



-- Michael


_____________________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 16:53:31 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable terminal emulator?
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

Actually, Microphone and Microphone LT are scriptable term emulators.

Anthony

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*  Anthony Brown, Macintosh Programming Intern, Harvard Universtiy  *
*                                                                   *
*  "Classic Rock Music Station's,  The 70's are calling,            *
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=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 20:21:25 EST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Organization: M A G I C
Subject:      4D Applescript

I have been exploring applescript in conjunction with 4D and am very
impressed. However, I also need to write some applescript for Wordperfect
and am experiencing a few problems.

Has anyone done some applescript for Wordperfect?

Thanks,
neal
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:21:32 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: An Applescript to play a System 7 2x clickable sound -
              possible?

>I need a script to play a System 7 sound file. You know the ones you can
>double click and automatically play. Any ideas?
>
Tell the Finder to open it. "Finder.open (fileName)" in Frontier. I'm sure
AppleScript can do it too.

        David

David Lewis     Seagate Technology      [phone]  [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:03:06 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Storing file aliases in AppleScript

hi,
   What's the best way to store the alias from a "choose file" so that when
you run the script again you won't have to find the file again?

EXAMPLE:
--------

property theFile : ""

set theFile to choose file with prompt "" of type "TEXT"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Preferably the user would only have to do this the first time the script
is run.  The script would remember where the file was from then on.

Anybody have any good solutions?

-peter
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:44:58 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         MR Mac - Michael Robertson <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Playing System 7 sound files via AppleScript

>>I need a script to play a System 7 sound file. You know the ones you can
>>double click and automatically play. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>I thought you could do that with either the open file command or the play
>sound commands that come with the standard AppleScript osaxen?

I tried both last night with no success. The open command was complaining
that ummmm... I can't remember... something about "can't open via
AppleEvents" or something like that. And the play sound command complains
about no sound resource found. :(
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:51:35 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Cohen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client?

At  9:52 AM 7/26/94 -0800, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
>>Has anybody found a Usenet News reader which is scriptable? I looked
>>at the latest NewsWatcher expecting it to be scriptable but it isn't.
>>
>        No scriptable clients taht I know of.  It's on John's list for
>NewsWatcher, but it;s not a high priority since scripting News isn't all
>that it's cracked up to be.
>
>        What would you want to script??
>
It would make life a lot easier for Kibo (there, I said it;) or anyone else
who wants to grab articles by some criteria. Wouldn't it be nice to be able
to do something like "get all articles containing 'AppleScript'"?

_______________________________________________________________
Mike Cohen           | ISIS International
[phone] Voice | [e-mail]           | ALink: D6734
[phone] Fax   | NewtonMail, eWorld: MikeC | AOL: MikeC20
Home Page: file://ftp.netcom.com/pub/isis/home.html
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:56:39 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Cohen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: 4D Applescript

At  8:21 PM 7/26/94 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>I have been exploring applescript in conjunction with 4D and am very
>impressed. However, I also need to write some applescript for Wordperfect
>and am experiencing a few problems.
>
>Has anyone done some applescript for Wordperfect?
>
>Thanks,
>neal

WordPerfect's AppleScripting capabilities are a little bit flaky. DoScript
works nicely, but the core stuff is broken in various random ways. In
particular, the aete resource lies about some of what it understands so
you'll often get results like "can't access so-and-so". In spite of this, I
guess it's still better than MS Word which has *no* scripting capability.

_______________________________________________________________
Mike Cohen           | ISIS International
[phone] Voice | [e-mail]           | ALink: D6734
[phone] Fax   | NewtonMail, eWorld: MikeC | AOL: MikeC20
Home Page: file://ftp.netcom.com/pub/isis/home.html
=========================================================================
Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:09:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons

>At 14:02 7/26/94 -0500, Chris Dowling wrote:
>
>>SOLUTIONS:
>>1. The mountVol scripting addition (osax) works when "Guest" (<Any User> in
>>AppleShare) login is enabled .  The following command logs in as <Any User>
>>on the KODIAK volume of the BEAR server in the MAMMAL zone.  The one
>>drawback is that guest access allows anyone to login to the server.
>>MountVol can be retrieved via anonymous FTP:
>>/applescript/osaxen/MountVolosax.hqx at  gaea.kgs.ukans.edu
>>
>>MountVolume zone "MAMMAL" server "BEAR" volume "KODIAK"
>
>This is cool and exactly what I wanted (and didn't think I could do) for
>something I'm working on right now, only the machine *does* require a login
>name and password (and it's a machine that holds our financial records, so
>I'd rather not enable guest access).  Any way, either with this osax or
>with another one to log in as a specific person?

Roy,

Frontier and Frontier Runtime support a verb that does what you want:

        file.mountServerVolume ("zone:server:vol", "username", "password")

Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as a huge, $35
shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb (and many
others) from AppleScript.

Doug
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:09:12 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Frontier records & lists

>I have question regarding accessing a list of records in Frontier.
>When scripting Quark, you can do something like
>
>   get(page[1].picturebox[color == "foo"].name)
>
>and you will be returned a list of the names of all the picture boxes one
>page 1 that have the color "foo".
>
>Is there any way to do something like this with a very large list of records
>in Frontier? I have created a type of index for 2500 illustrations (stock
>number, folder name, and file name), and want to be able to get all the file
>names that pertain to a certain item number. The client for whose jobs I
>created these scripts is organizationally challenged and has several
>duplicate stock numbers for completely different products.
>
>I want to be able to find all the records that contain the same value in one
>particular field  without looping through the entire list and checking the
>value of that field. For example I would like to be able to do something like
>
>
>  foo = a very large list of records
>  bar = foo['fld1' == "something"]
>
>and have bar be a list of either the records themselves or even the index
>values of the list elements that match.
>I am just wondering if Frontier can do this but I haven't figured it out how,
>or if it can't.  If it can't, consider it a suggestion.
>

This should work fine, memory permitting. Generally, the list you get back
will contains object specifiers for the indicated items, but if you ask for
the items' ids, you should get back a list of ids. For example:

    foobar = foo ['fld1' == "something"].id

This assumes that "foo"s _have_ ids in the first place.

Doug
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 22:06:33 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christophe Reverd <[e-mail]>
Organization: FranceNet
Subject:      Re: Set data in Filemaker

>Does anyone know if it is possible to use the "set data" command to set a
>specific subset of cells in a given filemaker database?  (and if so what is
>the correct syntax).  I know this works for Get data but I haven't figured
>out how to do it with set data.  I suppose I could use multiple set data
>statements but I can't belive that this wouldn't have a significant
>performance hit.
>
>Even better, is their any way to use "create record with data" to do the
>same thing with a new record

Did you try some of these statements ?

tell application "FileMaker Pro"
        Set Data first Record to "a\tb"
        Set Data Record 2 to {"a", "b"}
        Set Data Record 3 of window 2 to {"aa", "bb"}
        Set Data Record 4 of window 2 to "aaa\tbbbb"
        Set Data Cell 2 to "ccc"
        Set Data Field 1 to "replaced"
        Set Data Field "c" of Database "Test1" to "munged"
        make Record with data "data"
        make Record at window 2 with data "test2"
        make Record at first document with data "test3"
        make Record at Database 2 with data "test4"
        make Record at Database 2
        make Record with data {"more data", "abc"}
        make Record at window 2 with data {"test2", "abc"}
        make Record at first document with data {"test3", "abc"}
        make Record at Database "a" with data {"test4", "abc"}
        Set Data first Record to "a\tb"
        Set Data Record 2 to {"a", "b"}
        Set Data Record 3 of window 2 to {"aa", "bb"}
        Set Data Record 4 of window 2 to "aaa\tbbbb"
        Set Data Cell 2 to "ccc"
        Set Data Field 1 to "replaced"
        Set Data Field "c" of Database "Test1" to "munged"
end tell

Each line is independant from other.

Hope it helps !

Regards

Christophe Reverd

French FM Pro User Group
Externals for FM Pro devleoper

eMail : [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:58:43 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Michel <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Storing file aliases in AppleScript

>hi,
>   What's the best way to store the alias from a "choose file" so that when
>you run the script again you won't have to find the file again?
>
>EXAMPLE:
>--------
>
>property theFile : ""
>
>set theFile to choose file with prompt "" of type "TEXT"
>

This'll do it:

property thefile:{}

if thefile is {} then
   set theFile to choose file with prompt "" of type "TEXT"
end if


================================================================
"In order to come up with something that rings true, you would
have to stay out of the way of that information machine that
everyone is plugged into. If you're plugged into the same
information machine, then there's no point to write, 'cause then
everyone knows the same thing."
                                 -- Bob Dylan
================================================================
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 11:18:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applet RAM usage (was Re: Launching applications on remote
              machine?)

Pete Hinely <[e-mail]> writes:

>Actually most scripts run fine if you set their memory way below the
>default 200K.  I've had no problems running scripts at 20K for example.

I wondered about this. Obviously 200K was chosen as an "average" amount, but
many scripts will run in less, while some will need more.

200K may seem a small amount for one application, but if you think about
running lots of hang-around-in-the-background server scripts at once, that
can rapidly mount up.

I wonder: it wouldn't be hard to patch the applet stub code to set the
heap zone to the system heap at the start. Then your scripts could be set to
run in a really small partition, because they can dynamically allocate RAM in
the system heap as they need it!

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 11:45:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Storing file aliases in AppleScript

Pete Hinely <[e-mail]> asks:

>   What's the best way to store the alias from a "choose file" so that when
>you run the script again you won't have to find the file again?
>
>EXAMPLE:
>--------
>
>property theFile : ""
>
>set theFile to choose file with prompt "" of type "TEXT"
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Preferably the user would only have to do this the first time the script
>is run.  The script would remember where the file was from then on.

You're on the right track. In your run handler, put in a check like the
following

        if class of theFile is not alias then
                set theFile to (choose file ...)
        end if

The "choose file" command returns an alias, which is the most robust form in
which to store a file reference.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 11:49:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: App scriptability (was Re: 4D Applescript)

Mike Cohen <[e-mail]> writes:

>WordPerfect's AppleScripting capabilities are a little bit flaky. DoScript
>works nicely, but the core stuff is broken in various random ways. In
>particular, the aete resource lies about some of what it understands so
>you'll often get results like "can't access so-and-so". In spite of this, I
>guess it's still better than MS Word which has *no* scripting capability.

Has anybody else looked at MacWrite Pro 1.5? I have, briefly. That has some
interesting scripting functions in it--it doesn't support the Object Model,
but I think you can do some useful things nonetheless.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:58:51 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: An Applescript to play a System 7 2x clickable sound -
              possible?

>I need a script to play a System 7 sound file. You know the ones you can
>double click and automatically play. Any ideas?

With the scriptable Finder, it is (for a sound file on the desktop)

tell application "Finder"
     open file "Sosumi"
end tell

with the same file at the top level of the startup disk, it becomes...

tell application "Finder"
    open file "Sosumi" of startup disk
end tell


And so on.  Finder Liaison, FinderLib and other old-Finder crutches should
do the job, too.  In fact, after a few false starts (one of which crashed
=46inder), this seems to do the trick for the old Finder:

tell application "Finder"
    =ABevent FNDRsope=BB alias "Vashon:" given =ABclass fsel=BB:{alias "Vash=
on:Sosumi"}
end tell

  --John (=AB is left chevron, =BB is right chevron, for the MIME-impaired)

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 18:02:56 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: 4D Applescript

>I have been exploring applescript in conjunction with 4D and am very
>impressed. However, I also need to write some applescript for Wordperfect
>and am experiencing a few problems.
>
>Has anyone done some applescript for Wordperfect?

There are enough problems with the AppleScript (or Frontier) support in
WordPerfect 3.0 that I have concluded that for me, it is best to wait for
an improved release.  I've spoken to the product manager (at a dog-and-pony
show he did), and they are aware of the problems and plan to attend to
them.  Since then, there's a small matter of a corporate change...it
*probably* won't get in the way (although some of the assets might shift
toward OpenDoc support, I suppose).

For the moment, it's probably best to do everything possible with
WordPerfect macros, and trigger them from your scripts.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 18:22:18 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client?

>>        What would you want to script??
>>
>It would make life a lot easier for Kibo (there, I said it;) or anyone else
>who wants to grab articles by some criteria. Wouldn't it be nice to be able
>to do something like "get all articles containing 'AppleScript'"?
>
        It would be nice, BUT that is not the kind of thing that I see
doing with scripting since it would require that each message be "fetched"
which in terms kinda slows things down a LOT - UNLESS you are talking about
an offline News reader....


Leonard

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:48:47 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jay Hebert <[e-mail]>
Organization: L'AISON - Beverly Hills, Michigan
Subject:      Calling Fontier from Applescript

Doug Baron <NETCOM.COM!userland> writes:

> Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as a huge, $35
> shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb (and many
> others) from AppleScript.


Boy, now _I_ feel dumb for practically ignoring every post concerning how to
solve some problem in Frontier....  grr...

What are the logistics of doing so?  Do I issue a "Do Script <insert
frontier.cmd here>" via a tell statement or what?

This sounds like a very cool way to get the best of both worlds, thanks Doug!

Regards,
Jay Hebert
[e-mail]
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jul 1994 21:27:07 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Applet RAM usage (was Re: Launching applications on remote
              machine?)

>I wonder: it wouldn't be hard to patch the applet stub code to set the
>heap zone to the system heap at the start. Then your scripts could be set to
>run in a really small partition, because they can dynamically allocate RAM in
>the system heap as they need it!
>
        I don't see why not.  When OSA Menu executes a script, it does so
with the System Heap as the current one for just this reason!


LDR

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Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 15:36:05 +0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Todd Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scriptable News client

I wrote:

>Has anybody found a Usenet News reader which is scriptable? I looked
>at the latest NewsWatcher expecting it to be scriptable but it isn't.

Thanks for everyones suggestions and pointers.

Leonard wrote:

>What would you want to script??

It's for a prototype Newton based News client. You select the groups you are
interested in, and it downloads all of the relevant articles to your Newton
for browsing offline at a later time.

Nick wrote:

>By any wild chance, are you integrating
>AppleSearch?  That's what I'd really like to see.  Unfortunately,
>AppleSearch isn't yet scriptable, though it does support events.

I can't work out why AppleSearch isn't scriptable. The AppleSearch
client developers kit includes an 'Apple Events API'. Is there a
specific reason AppleSearch itself isn't directly scriptable? Does
anybody know if the new version of AppleSearch is scriptable? It
seems odd that Apple would leave this vital feature out of a key
technology.

Someone else wrote about a difficulty getting dates into FileMaker. I've
had this too and I'd welome a solution (short of using text fields!).

Regards,

Todd
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:42:23 +0100
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Anguish <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Availability of space

I'm not sure if this message got through first time(new subscriber) so here
it is again:
Does anyone have an idea how I might access in a script the Mac value
"Available disk space". I see no obvious Gestalt selector for this ...?
With Thanks, David A.

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David Anguish, SA/SIC
EPFL, CP 121 - 1015 Lausanne - CH
E-mail: [e-mail]
Phone:  [phone]
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:36:51 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Screen capture from a script ?

>From:    Edmund Lai <[e-mail]>
>The easiest way to do it is have an osax that would do execute FKEY 3.
>There should be osax such osax out there. If not it would be trival
>and very useful to write such an osax where you can execute a FKEY by
>either number of by FKEY name.

Jon's Commands has the execute fkey command.  It can do this.

>Unfortunately we do not have a lot of application that offers scripting
>for graphical data.

Notable is Apple's PhotoFlash.  It's scriptable, recordable and attachable.
Version 1.1 has a native PPC image engine.  Version 2.0 is coming RSN.  It
will include an integrated scriptable image browser and be completely
native.

Jon
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:39:47 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Simon Gill <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Intercepting HyperCard data

I have been experimenting with monitoring students interactions in a series
of HyperCard stacks. I have been successfully able to feed the choosen
'key' interactions across ethertalk to another mac running HyperCard via
Apple Events.
The remote machine then sends back a suggestion for certain interactions
and interaction patterns.

I would now like to try writing a small Applet with AppleScript to run on
the host machine. I envisage using events being sent from Hypercard to the
applet, cached and stored to disk by the applet, and then certain doscript
events sent back from the AppleScript applet to HyperCard.

I am wondering what is the best method to intercept events from HyperCard.
The data is typically like;

COPN,Start,Stationary/Motion,1,Stationary/Motion,10:54:33 am

OMDN,Start,Stationary/Motion,1,Falling,10:54:53 am

MOPN,Start,Stationary/Motion,1,Falling,10:54:57 am

each line represents the data for one event.
I would appreciate any ideas as I am quite new to AppleScript.

Thanks in advance

____________________________________________________________________

Simon Gill
Department of Design
Brunel University
Egham
Surrey TW20 OJZ
United Kingdom
____________________________________________________________________

Tel:    [phone]                     email: [e-mail]
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:00:58 EETDST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Tero Loimuneva <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Reset Timeout and Sender's address - how?
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>; from "Automatic digest
              processor" at Jul 27, 94 12:00 am

1) Can anyone tell me how do I make AE Manager's AEResetTimout function from AS
to get more time for the server script to accomplish its task?

2) Is there a way to get the address of the serder of the event (ie. in open doc
s) in AS? I can't seem to find anyting on either of these questions (I have IM V
I & Language at Glance stack).

Actually, if I would know the answer to the second question then I could easily
make an osax to solve the first problem.

Some background:
I have a client server system to automate some file manipulations
(usually lots of files at the time). The client application (written in Pascal)
should know how the task is progressing.

Now I've made the client to send one file at the time and wait for the server
to RETURN or signal ERROR messages. However this makes the Pascal program and
the AS script a bit "messy" or harder to update.

I'd like to make the client and server to talk to each other but I can't code th
e clients address into the server since the client can be in any machine on the
whole network. AND I'm not happy with the idea to send a separate event from
the client to tell it's address on the network.

        - Loimu
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:47:05 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Boroditsky <sage![e-mail]>
Organization: Sage Design
Subject:      Re(2): Frontier records & lists

Doug Baron wrote:

>This should work fine, memory permitting. Generally, the list you get back
>will contains object specifiers for the indicated items, but if you ask for
>the items' ids, you should get back a list of ids. For example:
>
>    foobar = foo ['fld1' == "something"].id
>
>This assumes that "foo"s _have_ ids in the first place.

Am I missing something? It seems to me that this kind of thing does not work
with lists of records in Frontier, but does work with objects in Quark. Allow
me to illustrate:

local
  foo, bar
foo = {{'fld1':"rec 1 fld 1 data",'fld2':"rec 1 fld 2 data"},{'fld1':"rec 2
fld 1 data",'fld2':"rec 2 fld 2 data"}}

foo is a list that contains 2 elements. Each element is a record that
contains 2 fields, named 'fld1' and 'fld2'.

The following command

  bar = foo['fld1' == "rec 2 fld 1 data"]

yields the error "Array index is out of range. The list "foo" doesn't have an
item #0"

Shouldn't the above assignment work?

Or what about the following potentially quite useful assignments...

  bar = foo[100-last]['fld1' == "rec 2 fld 1 data"]
  bar = foo['fld1' contains "rec 2"]
  bar = foo['fld1' startswith "rec"]

or something similar.

Basically, I am wondering if what I want to do in Frontier is currently
impossible (and if not how do I?), and to recommend that it be implemented in
the future if it is.

thanx
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:47:31 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Danny Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Storing file aliases in AppleScript

>What's the best way to store the alias from a "choose file"?

You also need to make sure your script is covered when someone moves the
file.  Here's a fragment that takes care of all scenarios:

property theFileAlias:""
repeat
  try
      -- your command that requires theFileAlias here --
      exit repeat
   on error -- file wasn't found or theFileAlias is empty
      set theFileAlias to (choose file with prompt "" of type "TEXT")
   end try
end repeat

This example based on code from The Complete AppleScript Handbook, p. 307.
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:54:28 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         iozzo nicholas f <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Want to learn Apple Script!

I'm new to this (obviously) and I would like to find some good documentation
on Apple Script. Where (on the internet) could I go to get this help?

Nick Iozzo
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:59:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Lee Hoong <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS / FMPro Date Reference

>I am looking for the correct reference form to tell AppleScript to set a
>FMPro DATE field, "TDays Date" to the AS current date cDate.  The
>following have been attempted so far:
>
>    set cDate to Current Date
>
>    tell application "FileMaker Pro"
>                tell Database DBName
>                            tell Layout 0
>
>                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate as Date
>                    -- unable to coerce
>                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate as Text
>                    -- invalid date supplied
>                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate without time and
>
>                        day as Date
>                    -- FM doesn't understand  message
>                    set Cell "T'days Date" to cDate without time and
>
>                        day as Text
>                    -- FM doesn't understand  message
>
>I don't want to have to change the FMPro field to TEXT.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kevin

The problem here is that FMP will accept dates (in date fields) only in
dd/mm/yy format (at least in the US version).  The key then is to provide
the date in this format when setting your field values via AS.  There will
be some extra work involved since the current date returned by AS is not in
the dd/mm/yy format.  Furthermore, AS does NOT provide a convenient method
for getting the no. of the current month (e. g. July = 7, January = 1); on
the other hand, one can get the day integer easily (see below).

The following script works for me in terms of setting the date field "start
date":

set mth to {{name:January, order:1}, {name:February, order:2}, {name:March,
order:3}, {name:April, order:4}, {name:May, order:5}, {name:June, order:6},
{name:July, order:7}, {name:August, order:8}, {name:September, order:9},
{name:October, order:10}, {name:November, order:11}, {name:December,
order:12}}

set nowmonth to month of the (current date)
set nowday to day of the (current date)
set nowyear to year of the (current date)
set shortyear to (text from character -2 to character -1 of (nowyear as string))

repeat with n in mth
        if name of n = nowmonth then set monthno to order of n
end repeat

tell application "FileMaker Pro"
        Set Data Cell "start date" of Record 1 To ((monthno & "/" & nowday
& "/" & shortyear) as string)
end tell

I'm using FMP 2.1v2.

Lee.

Lee K. Hoong
Emory University
Atlanta, GA 30322
Internet: [e-mail]
AOL: LHOONG
==========================
Opinions and comments expressed are mine; I do not represent Emory
University.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 12:01:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS / FMPro Date Reference
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Lee Hoong" at Jul 27, 94 10:59:55 am

--Lee Hoong wrote:
>
>The problem here is that FMP will accept dates (in date fields) only in
>dd/mm/yy format (at least in the US version).  The key then is to provide
>the date in this format when setting your field values via AS.  There will
>be some extra work involved since the current date returned by AS is not in
>the dd/mm/yy format.  Furthermore, AS does NOT provide a convenient method
>for getting the no. of the current month (e. g. July = 7, January = 1); on
>the other hand, one can get the day integer easily (see below).
>
>The following script works for me in terms of setting the date field "start
>date":

>[script deleted]

    Lee's script, or one like it, will work just fine for this but there
is a much shorter way to get the date in the format that FM Pro wants it
in. If you have the GTQ Scripting Library from gaea.kgs.ukans.edu you
can combine two of the OSAXen into this command:

        date string for (current date in seconds) in short format

    This returns the current date in mm/dd/yy format.

-Hades
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:26:07 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Nick Arnett <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scriptable News client

At  3:36 PM 7/27/94 +0800, Todd Hooper wrote:

>I can't work out why AppleSearch isn't scriptable. The AppleSearch
>client developers kit includes an 'Apple Events API'. Is there a
>specific reason AppleSearch itself isn't directly scriptable? Does
>anybody know if the new version of AppleSearch is scriptable? It
>seems odd that Apple would leave this vital feature out of a key
>technology.

They've said that it's coming.  In fact, the AppleSearch product manager
either reads this list or has articles forwarded to her -- she let me know
about a company that's doing some interesting things with it.

I am surprised that scripting still hasn't been added.  AppleSearch could
be a tremendous help to any information integration system, but AppleScript
is the obvious way to do so.

I really should get my hands on the AppleEvents API for it, but there's
always something else to do... I keep hoping someone else will wire it into
HyperCard so that I can just borrow the code.  I'm mostly just prototyping
to learn about the technology for my reports and such, so I try to get a
lot of leverage from others' work... ;-)

Nick


Multimedia Computing Corp.
Campbell, California
----------------------------------------------------------
"We are surrounded by insurmountable opportunity." -- Pogo
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 12:29:51 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Lee Hoong <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS / FMPro Date Reference

>--Lee Hoong wrote:
>>
>>The problem here is that FMP will accept dates (in date fields) only in
>>dd/mm/yy format (at least in the US version).  The key then is to provide
>>the date in this format when setting your field values via AS.  There will
>>be some extra work involved since the current date returned by AS is not in
>>the dd/mm/yy format.  Furthermore, AS does NOT provide a convenient method
>>for getting the no. of the current month (e. g. July = 7, January = 1); on
>>the other hand, one can get the day integer easily (see below).
>>
>>The following script works for me in terms of setting the date field "start
>>date":
>
>>[script deleted]
>
>    Lee's script, or one like it, will work just fine for this but there
>is a much shorter way to get the date in the format that FM Pro wants it
>in. If you have the GTQ Scripting Library from gaea.kgs.ukans.edu you
>can combine two of the OSAXen into this command:
>
>        date string for (current date in seconds) in short format
>
>    This returns the current date in mm/dd/yy format.
>
>-Hades

Thanks for that tip, Brian!  And I just realized that I made the mistake of
using the dd/mm/yy format in my original post when it should really be
mm/dd/yy.  Chock it up to lack of coffee.  ;-)

Lee.

Lee K. Hoong
Emory University
Atlanta, GA 30322
Internet: [e-mail]
AOL: LHOONG
==========================
Opinions and comments expressed are mine; I do not represent Emory
University.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:43:43 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Michael Clasen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: An Applescript to play a System 7 2x clickable sound -
              possible?

One way is to make an alias of the sound, using the scriptable finder then:
tell application "Finder"
        open alias "MACsmac:Desktop Folder:Money alias"
end tell
This works
lemme know if it works for you
mac
================
>I need a script to play a System 7 sound file. You know the ones you can
>double click and automatically play. Any ideas?
>
>
>
>-- Michael
>
>
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Michael Robertson - MR Mac         [phone] office
>Macintosh Business Consultant      [phone] pager
>San Diego Supercomputer Ctr.       [phone] fax
>
>Internet, America Online           [e-mail]
>Alphapager                         [e-mail] with subject mrmac
>_____________________________________________________________________________

-------
Michael A. Clasen   |  Voice - 1-415-703-8736
Clement Mok Design  |  Fax   - 1-415-703-9901
600 Townsend St.    |  Internet: [e-mail]
-------------------------------------------------
Live Anonomously    |2nd Century B.C.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:43:48 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Michael Clasen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: 4D Applescript

How do you get 4D to be scriptable, is there some extension?
lemme know
mac
=======
>I have been exploring applescript in conjunction with 4D and am very
>impressed. However, I also need to write some applescript for Wordperfect
>and am experiencing a few problems.
>
>Has anyone done some applescript for Wordperfect?
>
>Thanks,
>neal

-------
Michael A. Clasen   |  Voice - 1-415-703-8736
Clement Mok Design  |  Fax   - 1-415-703-9901
600 Townsend St.    |  Internet: [e-mail]
-------------------------------------------------
Live Anonomously    |2nd Century B.C.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 09:44:08 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Michael Clasen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Filemaker Pro Text selection

July 27, 1994, 9:31 AM
I'm tryng to use Applescript to place the insertion point at the end of a
first line in a Filemaker Pro text field. The script below operates like
Touchbase in that it moves the text down and the date stamps the first
paragraph.
  Does anyone know how to place the insertion point into a Text field in FMPro?
I got it to work using just the 4d language with the following script in a
button:
---------------------------
vNotes:=[Users]User Notes
If ([Users]User Notes="")
  BEEP`this beeps if the text block is empty; will used for message to
users later
  [Users]User Notes:=Insert string([Users]User Notes;String(Current
date)+": ";0)
  HIGHLIGHT TEXT([Users]User Notes;10;10)`this selects end of the line in
paragraph 1
Else
  [Users]User Notes:=Char(13)+vNotes
  [Users]User Notes:=Insert string([Users]User Notes;String(Current
date)+": ";0)
  HIGHLIGHT TEXT([Users]User Notes;10;10)
End if
------------------------------------------------
lemme know

-------
Michael A. Clasen   |  Voice - 1-415-703-8736
Clement Mok Design  |  Fax   - 1-415-703-9901
600 Townsend St.    |  Internet: [e-mail]
-------------------------------------------------
Live Anonomously    |2nd Century B.C.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:07:15 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: 4D Applescript

>How do you get 4D to be scriptable, is there some extension?
>lemme know
>mac

Contact Mike Cohen <[e-mail]>, regarding scripting 4D, and
"System7Pack" in general.  Warning...commercial product.  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 10:22:11 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS / FMPro Date Reference

>
>    Lee's script, or one like it, will work just fine for this but there
>is a much shorter way to get the date in the format that FM Pro wants it
>in. If you have the GTQ Scripting Library from gaea.kgs.ukans.edu you
>can combine two of the OSAXen into this command:
>
>        date string for (current date in seconds) in short format
>
>    This returns the current date in mm/dd/yy format.
>

One cavaet regarding Brian's script:
US FileMaker wants dates in mm/dd/yy format, regardless of how your Mac is
set up in the Date & Time control panel.  Greg's osax, on the other hand,
follows the Control Panel (international resource) settings.  So, today, if
I set the Contorl Panel for dd/mm/yy, I get "27/7/94" from the above date
string... .  And FileMaker rejects that.  Worse, on the first through the
12th, FileMaker would silently accept the date, and put the wrong value
into your database.

Lee Hoong's solution is thus safer.
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 12:51:28 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Calling Fontier from Applescript

>Doug Baron <NETCOM.COM!userland> writes:
>
>> Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as a huge, $=
35
>> shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb (and ma=
ny
>> others) from AppleScript.
>
>
>What are the logistics of doing so?  Do I issue a "Do Script <insert
>frontier.cmd here>" via a tell statement or what?

There are actually two ways to cause Frontier or Runtime to execute code,
from an AppleScript script written in the Script Editor:

[The Frontier verb string.dateString () takes no parameters, and returns
the current date in (abbreviated) string form:  "Wed, Jul 27, 1994".]

You can use Do Script:

tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"
    Do Script "string.dateString ()"
end tell

You can also--inside a tell addressing Frontier or Runtime, do this:
tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"
    |string.dateString|()
end tell

I believe that is implemented as a subroutine event sent from AppleScript
to the target (Runtime, here).  [AETracker isn't cooperating this morning.]

The vertical bars are necessary to convince AppleScript that you know what
you are doing...otherwise the '.' is a syntax error.  Script Editor will
style string.dateString as a variable, etc, not as a keyword.

This even works for those cases where a Frontier verb's name collides with
an AppleScript keyword:

tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"
    |number|("123")
end tell

invokes Frontier's number (xxx) verb, which coerces to an integer,
returning 1 for the example.  [AppleScript's own
    number "1.23"
would produce an error.

---------------
When you are writing AppleScript scripts in a Frontier script window, you
don't need the | characters...Frontier adds them as needed in the process
of passing the script's text off to AppleScript to deal with.  You can, in
fact, writing in the Frontier editor in AppleScript, pretty freely treat
everything in Frontier as an extension to the AppleScript language.  I
haven't done much of it.

   --John

--John W. Baxter    Port Ludlow, WA USA   [e-mail]
  UserLand Software support
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 17:13:25 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      scriptablility of 4d, and max size of a variable...

I have two questions for all of you more experienced scripters.
a)  To what extent is 4d scriptable via applescript?
    I am not interested in knowing that it can possibly be scripted using
the menu events extension.  In other words, is it as scriptable as fmpro?

b)  How big can a variable in applescript be?  Am I limited only by the
amount of memory that I have, or is there a ceiling on the amount of info
that it can hold?


any info would be greatly appreciated...

Anthony

*********************************************************************
*                                                                   *
*  Anthony Brown, Macintosh Programming Intern, Harvard Universtiy  *
*                                                                   *
*  "Classic Rock Music Station's,  The 70's are calling,            *
*   They want their 8 - Tracks back!"                               *
*                                                                   *
*   Dolphin's Rule!! Undefeated 17 - 0  The Perfect Team 1972-73    *
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 16:27:25 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Re(2): Frontier records & lists

>Doug Baron wrote:
>
>>This should work fine, memory permitting. Generally, the list you get back
>>will contains object specifiers for the indicated items, but if you ask for
>>the items' ids, you should get back a list of ids. For example:
>>
>>    foobar = foo ['fld1' == "something"].id
>>
>>This assumes that "foo"s _have_ ids in the first place.
>
>Am I missing something? It seems to me that this kind of thing does not work
>with lists of records in Frontier, but does work with objects in Quark. Allow
>me to illustrate:

You're not missing anything; I missed the crux of your question the first
time around. No, you can't use "conditional indexing" to form a sublist of
a UserTalk list variable. You need to index through the list and look for
the entries you want. But, part of what I was trying to illustrate is that
you might be able to get a more narrowed-down list in the first place by
making your QXP "get" expression more complex. Then again, you might not;
it really depends on the specifics.

Doug
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 1994 16:27:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Calling Fontier from Applescript

>There are actually two ways to cause Frontier or Runtime to execute code,
>from an AppleScript script written in the Script Editor:
>
>[The Frontier verb string.dateString () takes no parameters, and returns
>the current date in (abbreviated) string form:  "Wed, Jul 27, 1994".]
>
>You can use Do Script:
>
>tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"
>    Do Script "string.dateString ()"
>end tell
>
>You can also--inside a tell addressing Frontier or Runtime, do this:
>tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"
>    |string.dateString|()
>end tell
>
>I believe that is implemented as a subroutine event sent from AppleScript
>to the target (Runtime, here).  [AETracker isn't cooperating this morning.]

Right. (Thanks for covering this, John.) It should be pointed out that the
big advantage of the latter, subroutine-invoking form is that parameters
can be used quite freely; you can pass AS variables and expressions as
parameters to Frontier verbs.

Doug

p.s. to all: I'm going to be on the road for a while, so after tomorrow
I'll temporarily discontinue my subscription to MACSCRPT until I get back.
Gotta avoid that overflowing mailbox...
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:01:35 +1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Danny Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS / FMPro Date Reference

>>        date string for (current date in seconds) in short format
>>
>>    This returns the current date in mm/dd/yy format.
>>
>
>One cavaet regarding Brian's script:
>US FileMaker wants dates in mm/dd/yy format, regardless of how your Mac is
>set up in the Date & Time control panel.  Greg's osax, on the other hand,
>follows the Control Panel (international resource) settings.  So, today, if
>I set the Contorl Panel for dd/mm/yy, I get "27/7/94" from the above date
>string... .  And FileMaker rejects that.  Worse, on the first through the
>12th, FileMaker would silently accept the date, and put the wrong value
>into your database.
>
>Lee Hoong's solution is thus safer.
>   --John

There is a flexible and trivial to write approach which unfortunately is
unlikely to be practical. Simply build an AppleScript-callable routine with
a C compiler that supported a wide variety of locales. Then you could
simply repackage the ANSI standard library function strftime() which takes
a pointer, buf size, format string, and timestructure to stuff a stingized
date into the buffer. The format string can contain about twenty format
specifications including
  %a abbreviated weekday name, eg "Mon"
  %A full weekday name, eg "Lundi"  (what country is this?)
  %m month as a decimal number
  %U week number of the year (00-53)
  %y year without century
  %z timezone name or abbreviation

in this case you'd use a simple format "%d/%m/%y".

If you're developing stand-alone programs ported to a variety of machine
types throughout the world, there are advantages to using a development
system which has the internationalization info built into it, eg C locales
and wide-characters. But I guess much of this info is available on the Mac
OS anyway through Apple's internationalization efforts.

cheers,
Danny Thomas
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 01:17:47 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject:      I learned something new today

OK, so I received my free copy of Script Lizard, er, Wizard for either
taking second place with Jon's Commands or for beta testing it or some
reason.  I've played with the program already, so I scan the manual and
score gold with a tip I didn't know.

In the Script Editor 1.1 there is the nifty event log window.  Hopefully
everyone has played with this.  The tip is that AppleScript knows 3
commands for dealing with this.  All of them only do things when the window
is showing, so they can be left in finished scripts.  The first is "start
log", the second is "stop log" and the last is simply "log".  (All kids
love Log!)

The start and stop log events simply turn event logging on and off so that
you can localize the event logging to your area of interest.  That's not so
cool.  What's cool is that the log command takes a string and prints that
to the log window.  You can use this instead of display dialog!

It's cool.  I like it and I will be using Log.

Jon

What rolls down stairs?
  Alone or in pairs,
    And flattens the neighbor's dog...
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 06:53:05 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: I learned something new today

At 01:17 7/28/94 -0800, Jon Pugh wrote:

>
>In the Script Editor 1.1 there is the nifty event log window.  Hopefully
>everyone has played with this.  The tip is that AppleScript knows 3
>commands for dealing with this.  All of them only do things when the window
>is showing, so they can be left in finished scripts.  The first is "start
>log", the second is "stop log" and the last is simply "log".  (All kids
>love Log!)
>
>The start and stop log events simply turn event logging on and off so that
>you can localize the event logging to your area of interest.  That's not so
>cool.  What's cool is that the log command takes a string and prints that
>to the log window.  You can use this instead of display dialog!

I stumbled onto this a week or so ago, too.  My source was the
Addison-Wesley edition of "AppleScript Scripting Additions Guide English
Dialect" (I mentioned that book here).

One note (from the book) about the log event:  it logs (if the log window
is open) even if you have shut off event logging using stop log.  Also,
consider this (rather silly) script:

stop log
tell application "Finder"
    items
    log "This is a test"
    start log
    disks
end tell

The log which results is:

    (*This is a test*)
tell application "Finder"
    get every disk
        --> {startup disk, disk "Lopez", disk "Blake", disk "Sucia"}
end tell


Note that the log has retroactively gone back and inserted the tell...nice
so you know who's dealing with the event.
---------
One use of the log:  to help answer the "who's doing that?" question.  Has
a given operation been done by AppleScript, or by the target application.
Sometimes that matters (where they do things differently), and sometimes
it's less than obvious at first glance.  Things which AppleScript does
itself are not logged.

I was very pleased to find this.  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 14:13:42 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christophe Reverd <[e-mail]>
Organization: FranceNet
Subject:      Re: Filemaker Pro Text selection

>Does anyone know how to place the insertion point into a Text field in FMPro?

I don't think FMPro let you do this kinf os stuff.

Christophe Reverd
_________________________________________
French Speakers FM Pro User Group
External for FM Pro developer

eMail : [e-mail]
or [e-mail]
_________________________________________
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:56:17 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Gib Veconi <[e-mail]>
Subject:      RE>scriptablility of 4d, and max size of a variable...

To: MacintoshScriptingSystems <[e-mail]>

Anthony Brown writes:
>
> I have two questions for all of you more experienced scripters.
> a)  To what extent is 4d scriptable via applescript?
>     I am not interested in knowing that it can possibly be scripted using
> the menu events extension.  In other words, is it as scriptable as fmpro?

4D itself is not scriptable. However, if you are using 4D Server, you
can use the bundled middleware app 4D AppleScript to access server data
from your AppleScript app. We have used it to do some custom reporting
with graphics software, and it works well.

Gib Veconi
[e-mail]
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:56:23 +0000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Gib Veconi <[e-mail]>
Subject:      RE> 4D AppleScript

John W. Baxter writes:

> >How do you get 4D to be scriptable, is there some extension?
> >lemme know
> >mac
>
> Contact Mike Cohen <[e-mail]>, regarding scripting 4D, and
> "System7Pack" in general.  Warning...commercial product.  --John

If you are running your 4D app with 4D Server, you can use ACI's
4D Open for AppleScript (also known as 4D AppleScript) as a
middleware layer to access the 4D Server. It's pretty easy to
use, and is bundled with 4D Server.

4D AppleScript will not provide any scriptability for your
4D application itself, it just offers data table access through
AppleScript.
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:59:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         robert patoine <[e-mail]>
Subject:      MacWorld, Boston

I plan to be in Boston for the MacWorld Next Week, by car.  Is there
suppose to be

some interesting materail or conferences about or ralted to AppleScrip?
 Second question !

Anaybody can suggest an Hotel name in the vivinity of the Bay side or the
 Worls trade center affordable... All hotels are full.
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 08:14:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Evad, Paul" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Help with deleting folders

OK, I've tried tackling this one for a few days... but can't seem to work my
head around it. (problem is I'm doing this in addition to my other duties in
the office).

I need to look at the creation dates of a list of folders in a specific
folder (ignoring files), looking at the creation date of the folders and
deleting all folders with a creation date < current date - 3 days.

Here is my complete script so far, please forgive the long post and feel free
to comment and hack this one apart as I am a novice in scripting...

______________________________________________________________________

property sourceFolders : {}
property destFolder : "NULL"
property confirmBackups : false
-- locate the folder(s) that are to be backed up. This is done first time the
script is run
if (sourceFolders = {}) then
 set sourceFolders to
  choose several folders with prompt
   "Select folders to backup:" starting with sourceFolders
end if
-- Locate the folder where the backup archive is to be placed
if (destFolder = "NULL") then
 set destFolder to choose folder with prompt "Select destination folder:"
end if
set folderNamestring to (current date) as string
set oldDelimiters to AppleScript's text item delimiters
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {","}
set monthName to word 2 of folderNamestring
set dayName to word 3 of folderNamestring
set hourname to word 5 of folderNamestring
set minname to word 6 of folderNamestring
set ampmname to word 8 of folderNamestring

set AppleScript's text item delimiters to oldDelimiters
set BfolderName to monthName & " " & dayName & " " & hourname & " " & minname
& " " & ampmname
create folder (BfolderName) as string in destFolder
set Bpath to (destFolder as string) & BfolderName & ":"
set Filestomove to list folder of sourceFolders
**tell FinderLib
** copyFiles from sourceFolders to Bpath as string with warning
**end tell
**set folderlist to list folder destFolder
**if (get fileinfo creation date of folder list)   (current date) - 129600
**then tell application "Finder"
**activate
**delete theFolder

___________________________________________________________________

another problem I have with the above is the need for FinderLib - ideally I
would like this script to run on any macintosh with the minimal "applescript
extensions" neccessary.

I have ** the relevent sections.

Comments? Suggestions? Solutions?

Paul Evad
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 11:18:50 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "George R. Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Multi-line input dialog box from applescript?

Is there a way within AppleScript to prompt for a multi-line input (with
scroll bars if the text exceeds the visible area of the box)?

George Brown                    Voice: 315-738-0600x250
8383 Seneca Turnpike            FAX: [phone]
New Hartford, NY  13413-4991    e-mail: [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:34:55 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Dean J. Spearman" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Filemaker, applescript, network

While we are on the subject of filemaker and applescript has anyone set up
an applescript to open a networked filemaker database as a guest.  In this
case there is not finder level access to the file.  I was hoping for
something like

                              open {"(*)filename"}

but it doesn't seem to work
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 12:07:25 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Danny Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston

>Is there suppose to be
>some interesting materail or conferences about or ralted to AppleScrip?

I'll be giving a talk on Wednesday afternoon about scripting applications
with AppleScript.  The session is part of the conference program, and will be
at the World Trade Center (2:30-3:50 pm).

Also, for those who have my AppleScript book but have not called for the 1.1
update disk (which contains a file with about 50pp. of new information about
1.1, such as the event log et al.), I've asked Random House to bring extra
disks to their booth.  I'll be at their booth (at Bayside) on Thursday from
10:30-11:30, so drop by and say 'howdy.'

Danny Goodman
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 12:38:45 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Tom Emerson <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston

At 10:59 7/28/94 -0500, robert patoine wrote:
>I plan to be in Boston for the MacWorld Next Week, by car.  Is there
>suppose to be
>
>some interesting materail or conferences about or ralted to AppleScrip?
> Second question !

I don't know about this - I haven't glanced at the program recently.

>Anaybody can suggest an Hotel name in the vivinity of the Bay side or the
> Worls trade center affordable... All hotels are full.

Chances are you are *not* going to find a hotel in Boston or Cambridge that
is going to have vacancies during MacWorld. There is a Holiday Inn in
Concord just off of Route 2 that, while a bit of a hike (about 20 miles or
so from downtown Boston) is on four lane highway most of the way. I'm not
as familiar with the downtown area and immediate vicinity, but you could
probably find stuff out in the Lexington/Bedford/Concord area, and perhaps
in Cambridge. Reasonable? I doubt it. The Charles Hotel in Harvard Square
is very nice, but pricy. There is a place next to it, I think it is called
the "Harvard Motor House" or something like that which is basic but OK.

There is always the Hyatt Regency in Cambridge... ;-)

        -tre

---
Tom Emerson                                              Software Engineer
Development Tools Group                               Symantec Corporation
                          [e-mail]
  "I dreamed I had to take a test, in a Dairy Queen, on another planet."
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 12:56:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy J. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Danny Goodman" at Jul 28, 94 12:07:25 pm

I plan on attending the expo and am interested in putting faces to the
names. Is anyone else in possibly getting some kind of MACSCRPT get-together
together?

-A

--
Andy J. Williams ([e-mail])
Manager, Computer Resource Center, Dartmouth College

"Doing strange things in the name of art..."
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 13:17:35 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Andy J. Williams" at Jul 28, 94 12:56:34 pm

--Andy J. Williams wrote:
>
>I plan on attending the expo and am interested in putting faces to the
>names. Is anyone else in possibly getting some kind of MACSCRPT get-together
>together?

    Well, we could all try to get together during the Netter's Dinner.
It's Thursday night, 7pm, at the European Italian Restaurant. It's
located in Boston's North End, pratically on the Freedom Trail, but I
can't remember the exact address. It's a short walk from Faneuil Hall or
the Haymarket T stop.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:25:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston

>Chances are you are *not* going to find a hotel in Boston or Cambridge that
>is going to have vacancies during MacWorld. There is a Holiday Inn in
>Concord just off of Route 2 that, while a bit of a hike (about 20 miles or
>so from downtown Boston) is on four lane highway most of the way.

My, things HAVE changed (naturally) since I was at MIT late 50s and early
60s.  Concord was reached by a series of "interesting" two lane roads then.

In those days, there were some very "interesting" hotels around Scolley
Square (I understand Scolley Square is now gone in its old form).  Hourly
rentals, companionship and all.  Probably not what the poster meant.

  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:27:20 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

I'm going to be there at macworld for 2 hour shifts doing a favor in
exchange for a free pass.  I'll be displaying this solar powered
powerbook battery(sya that fast 10 times) for some company.  I think it's
going to be at bayside.  I'm always trying to meet new people with
similar interests(scripting applescript)  so just come on by!

Anthony

*********************************************************************
*                                                                   *
*  Anthony Brown, Macintosh Programming Intern, Harvard Universtiy  *
*                                                                   *
*  "Classic Rock Music Station's,  The 70's are calling,            *
*   They want their 8 - Tracks back!"                               *
*                                                                   *
*   Dolphin's Rule!! Undefeated 17 - 0  The Perfect Team 1972-73    *
*                                                                   *
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=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 13:18:31 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons

At 15:09 7/26/94 -0700, Doug Baron wrote:
>Frontier and Frontier Runtime support a verb that does what you want:
>
>        file.mountServerVolume ("zone:server:vol", "username", "password")
>
>Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as a huge, $35
>shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb (and many
>others) from AppleScript.

Cool! Where can I find Frontier Runtime?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:43:37 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 28 Jul 94 13:18:31 -0900"

>Cool! Where can I find Frontier Runtime?

tsk, tsk, tsk.

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/frontier/FromUserland/runtime303.sea.hqx
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/userland/runtime303.sea.bin
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 17:03:46 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Roy Eassa <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Scripting Stuffit Deluxe 3.0.7

Hi,

I'm new to both Applescript and this mailing list.  In fact, this is the
first message I've ever sent to any mailing list.

I have Applescript 1.1 and Stuffit Deluxe 3.0.7.  I would like to create an
applet that does the following:  When you drop one or more stuffit archives
on it, it sets each archive's creation and modification date to match that
of the newest item within the archive.  That way, the archive's date for
purposes of sorting, filing, and weeding, properly represents its contents
rather than when it happens to have been compressed.

Ideally, the applet would pop up a small dialog permitting the user to
select among four dates for each of "created" and "modified":  Don't
change, change to match newest item within archive, change to match oldest
item within archive, or set to "right now".  However, I'd gladly settle for
just setting the creation and modification dates to the newest element
within the archive.

Three questions:

1.  What the heck is going on with Stuffit's dictionary?  It does not seem
to be in the standard format.  Except for the "required" suite, the other
functions are not correctly documented in the dictionary and Applescript is
totally absent in the Stuffit manual.  For many subroutines, it seems the
scripter must supply the same information in two separate parameters.  Must
I pass one, the other, or both?  The prototype has just the subroutine name
followed by a single quote then a few spaces then another single quote.  On
subsequent lines, there is a list of parameter data types, but usually each
lacks a description and an indication of whether it's required or optional.
Help!

2.  Must I recursively search through all the items within the Stuffit
archives?  Within an archive there can be any arbitrary collection of files
and folders, and each folder likewise contains files and folders.
(However, Stuffit thinks all archives have exactly one item -- the "top
level" item.)  Is there any way to look at each file iteratively (like a
depth-first walk through the tree with Stuffit handling the hierarchy), or
must I recurse?  Again, the dictionary and manual do not make this clear at
all!

3.  Does anybody know of free/shareware utilities, OSAXen, etc., that would
facilitate the task I am attempting?  Or even -- does anybody have a
similar script to offer as an example?  I'm just starting out here and love
Applescript's seemingly great potential, but am very frustrated so far.

Thanks for the help!


--
Roy Eassa
[e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 14:25:38 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS and Frontier Runtime

At 15:09 7/26/94 -0700, Doug Baron wrote:
>Roy,
>
>Frontier and Frontier Runtime support a verb that does what you=
 want:
>
>        file.mountServerVolume ("zone:server:vol", "username", "password")
>
>Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as=
 a huge, $35
>shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb=
 (and many
>others) from AppleScript.

Great! Fantastic! Err, how do I do this? :)

You said Frontier Runtime is OSA-compliant, so I figured I'd put=
 it in the
Scripting Additions folder where the rest of my OSAs are.  Then I=
 tried:
---
start log
file.mountServerVolume("First Floor:AccountServer:AccountServer",
"rrapoport", "xxxxx")
---
Which got me "Expected expression, property, or key form etc. but=
 found
unknown token", with the '.' between file and mountServerVolume highlited.

Well, OK, maybe I need to tell Frontier this?
So I tried
---
start log
tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"
file.mountServerVolume("First Floor:AccountServer:AccountServer",
"rrapoport", "xxxxx")
end tell
---

which gave me the same error.  Hmm.  Maybe
---
start log
tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"
file mountServerVolume("First Floor:AccountServer:AccountServer",
"rrapoport", "xxxxx")
end tell
---
which let me know that FR does not understand the 'mountServerVolume'=
 message.

What the hell am I doing wrong? Hell, let'a back up -- what the hell=
 am I
doing? :)

-roy


Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 14:37:08 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons

>At 15:09 7/26/94 -0700, Doug Baron wrote:
>>Frontier and Frontier Runtime support a verb that does what you want:
>>
>>        file.mountServerVolume ("zone:server:vol", "username", "password")
>>
>>Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as a huge, $35
>>shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb (and many
>>others) from AppleScript.
>
>Cool! Where can I find Frontier Runtime?
>

I think the right file is
   ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/frontier/FromUserland/RUNT.sit.hqx

I don't know what's in the much smaller
   ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/frontier/FromUserland/RuntimePreviewKit.sit.hqx
except that by its date it discuss a slightly older version.

  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:56:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:37:08 PDT"

>>>Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as a huge, $35
>>>shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb (and many
>>>others) from AppleScript.
>>
>>Cool! Where can I find Frontier Runtime?
>>
>I think the right file is
>   ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/frontier/FromUserland/RUNT.sit.hqx

This is actually Runtime 3.01 (just pulled it down and checked).

>I don't know what's in the much smaller
>   ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/frontier/FromUserland/RuntimePreviewKit.sit.hqx
>except that by its date it discuss a slightly older version.

This has a readme file and a document about writing scripts for Runtime.

The file

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/frontier/FromUserland/runtime303.sea.hqx

while having an odd date, is the latest version of Frontier Runtime.

Sorry for all of the confusion. Guess I need to work on the Frontier
directories a bit more.

pf
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:00:37 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting Stuffit Deluxe 3.0.7

At 17:03 7/28/94 -0500, Roy Eassa wrote:
.... [wants a droplet which re-dates an archive per its contents]
.... (I'll look at this later, if no one else does...it sounds useful.  If
I do post a solution, it will require the Scriptable Finder [the problem
doesn't, but at this time I see no reason to do the extra work to avoid
it].)


>1.  What the heck is going on with Stuffit's dictionary?  It does not seem
>to be in the standard format.  Except for the "required" suite, the other
>functions are not correctly documented in the dictionary and Applescript is
>totally absent in the Stuffit manual.  For many subroutines, it seems the
>scripter must supply the same information in two separate parameters.  Must
>I pass one, the other, or both?  The prototype has just the subroutine name
>followed by a single quote then a few spaces then another single quote.  On
>subsequent lines, there is a list of parameter data types, but usually each
>lacks a description and an indication of whether it's required or optional.
>Help!

StuffIt is written with a set of custom events, not the core suite.  I'm
not privy to all the reasons, but...scripting was added to StuffIt long ago
(before AppleScript emerged, but after the core suite had *almost* stopped
shifting around).  Also...it is far easier to implement rationally designed
events than to do the Object Model armwaving involved in the more modern
approach.  I'm not with Aladdin, and don't know their plans (except that
3.5 is due sometime).

I suggest you take the events as they are, and work with them.  They are,
in fact, very well thought out.  And probably easier to script than an
"Object Model" approach would have been.

-------
>2.  Must I recursively search through all the items within the Stuffit
>archives?

I think so, but I won't know until I look at the original problem.

More anon (unless I don't get to it).

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:49:54 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jay Hebert <[e-mail]>
Organization: L'AISON - Beverly Hills, Michigan
Subject:      TCP/IP apps, Frontmost and otherwise?

Hi all...

A while ago, before the big contest and all, there was a thread about tcp/ip
stuff in AS.  As I recall, there were one or two authors who had apps written
in Frontmost, et al, that they were considereing for release after they
entered them into the contest (something like that - my memory's a little
dim...).

Anyways, have these projects been released?  Can I find them at gaea?

I'm looking into this area of scripting, and something like this would give
me sample code to keep me occupied for months...  =)

Thanks in advance,
Jay Hebert
[e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 11:51:13 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Multi-line input dialog box from applescript?
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, George R. Brown wrote:

> Is there a way within AppleScript to prompt for a multi-line input (with
> scroll bars if the text exceeds the visible area of the box)?
>

You can enter multi-line input with the display dialog command.  There
are no scroll bars though.  If you want it to show a big box to enter
text in, just make the default text a couple of returns.

-peter
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:24:43 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Launching Applications on Remote Machines

I really don't see why I can't do this:

I've got one machine, say "Bob"
I've got another machine, say "Jim"

Bob contains an AS script to copy data from Location 1 to Location 2.  When
the script is finished, I want it to call a script on Jim.  The script on
Jim copies information from Location 2 on Bob to a location in Jim.

Now, the reason I can't have the script just copy the information into Jim
is because I'm trying to make the script run as quickly as possible (it's
backing up data once a day at noon, and our work is halted until it's
finished).  If I have the script run on the other machine, this machine
isn't held up until its finished.

The problem is, according to the AppleScript Language Guid (English
Dialect), in page 148, "AppleScript doesn't open applications on remote
computers."

Why? Can I do it any other way, assuming I want to stick with AppleScript
as the basic environment? Can I, for example, tell Finder on the other
machine, something like
tell application "Finder" of machine "Jim" of zone "Far Out Zonked"
        open "JimDisk:Desktop Folder:JimBob"
end tell
or something like it, assuming the Finder on the other machine is the
Scriptable Finder?

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:36:38 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Owen Watson <[e-mail]>
Subject:      AppleScript reference app?

Is there any freeware/shareware program giving AppleScript command syntax
etc? ie something more than just looking up the library. The ideal would be
Danny's book in outline format. . . .

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Owen Watson, The Royal Society of NZ, PO Box 598, Wellington, New Zealand
Internet [e-mail]  Ph: [phone] Fax: [phone]
The gateway to New Zealand science: http://www.rsnz.govt.nz/
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:48:20 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Michael Clasen <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston

I won't be going to MacWorld Boston this year but have read your book
(actually I'm up to page 200 and counting) Is there a way to get the disk
from the publisher for those West Coast people who cannot drop by the booth
until MacWorld SF?
thanks in advance
=====================
>>Is there suppose to be
>>some interesting materail or conferences about or ralted to AppleScrip?
>
>I'll be giving a talk on Wednesday afternoon about scripting applications
>with AppleScript.  The session is part of the conference program, and will be
>at the World Trade Center (2:30-3:50 pm).
>
>Also, for those who have my AppleScript book but have not called for the 1.1
>update disk (which contains a file with about 50pp. of new information about
>1.1, such as the event log et al.), I've asked Random House to bring extra
>disks to their booth.  I'll be at their booth (at Bayside) on Thursday from
>10:30-11:30, so drop by and say 'howdy.'
>
>Danny Goodman

-------
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Clement Mok Design  |  Fax   - 1-415-703-9901
600 Townsend St.    |  Internet: [e-mail]
-------------------------------------------------
Live Anonomously    |2nd Century B.C.
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:56:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons

"John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]> writes:

>I think the right file is
>   ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/frontier/FromUserland/RUNT.sit.hqx

The "runt" version of Frontier. I like it. :-)

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:57:24 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS and Frontier Runtime

>At 15:09 7/26/94 -0700, Doug Baron wrote:
>>Roy,
>>
>>Frontier and Frontier Runtime support a verb that does what you want:
>>
>>        file.mountServerVolume ("zone:server:vol", "username", "password")
>>
>>Since it is OSA-compliant, you can think of Frontier Runtime as a huge, $3=
5
>>shareware OSAX library. With it installed, you can call this verb (and man=
y
>>others) from AppleScript.
>
>Great! Fantastic! Err, how do I do this? :)
>
>You said Frontier Runtime is OSA-compliant, so I figured I'd put it in the
>Scripting Additions folder where the rest of my OSAs are.  Then I tried:

=46rontier Runtime is an application.  The application and its data
file--named Runtime.root should be together in some handy folder, such as
the one the installer put them into.  Launch Runtime (either by hand, or as
the result of a tell statement).

With Runtime running, a couple of things happen:

1.  The language popup at the bottom of the Script Editor's script editing
windows now includes the language name "UserTalk", along with
"AppleScript".  For now, leave that set to AppleScript.

2.  When you want to have Runtime execute a command, tell Frontier Runtime
to do so.  For you example

tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"   -- =81 is the trademark symbol
    |file.mountServerVolume| ("First Floor:AccountServer:AccountServer",
>"rrapoport", "xxxxx")   -- all on one line
end tell


In UserTalk (the OSA-compliant scripting language used by Frontier and
Runtime) commands (verbs) receive their parameters inside () pairs, as with
C and Pascal functions (and Pascal procedures).  Verbs, and all other
things in the Runtime.root file, are accessed by name.  They are organized
into a hierarchy, with a table named "root" at the top.  A few levels down
from "root" is the table named file.  One of the scripts ("verbs") in file
is mountServerVolume ().  Its full name is
root.system.verbs.builtins.file.mountServerVolume.

In the <correct> belief that no one wants to type all that, Frontier was
given a means of "shortcutting" those names.  One place things can be found
is in the table
   root.system.verbs.builtins
just by giving their name ("file" in this case) inside that table.  So,
   file
names the table containing a bunch of file-related verbs, and
   file.mountServerVolume
names the mountServerVolume verb.

To me, there is a serious problem with "treating Runtime as a large osax".
That is...folks who want to do that don't know what facilities are
available.  You're pretty much reduced, at first, to copying scripts you
see here or other places.

------
=46rontier's documentation is primarily done through the "DocServer"
application.  I don't believe that is included in the RUNT.SIT package.
When Doug returns, I'll ask about making it available separately.
Meanwhile, I guess, ask here in the list, or ask me.

   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:02:33 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Scripting Stuffit Deluxe 3.0.7

>1.  What the heck is going on with Stuffit's dictionary?
>
        StuffIt 3.0.7 was shipping before AppleScript and so it's
dictionary contains a number of "betaisms".  A cleaned up dictionary and
more "standardize" Apple events are one of the MANY improvement in our
forthcoming upgrade.

        However, you should still be able to script all aspects of StuffIt.
One thing I recommend is to take advantage of the fact that StuffIt is
recordable and let it write at least some of the script for you.


>2.  Must I recursively search through all the items within the Stuffit
>archives?
>
        Yup, if you want your dates to be correct.

>Is there any way to look at each file iteratively (like a
>depth-first walk through the tree with Stuffit handling the hierarchy), or
>must I recurse?  Again, the dictionary and manual do not make this clear at
>all!
>
        Yup.  There is a sample of this that our tech support department
provides.


Leonard

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Rosenthol                       Internet:       [e-mail]
Director of Advanced Technology         AppleLink:      MACgician
Aladdin Systems, Inc.                   GEnie:          MACgician
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:43:42 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS and Frontier Runtime

At 15:57 7/28/94 -0700, John W. Baxter wrote:

>tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"   -- =81 is the trademark symbol
>    |file.mountServerVolume| ("First Floor:AccountServer:AccountServer",
>>"rrapoport", "xxxxx")   -- all on one line
>end tell

Great.  One last question (for now :) ):

I've done it, it works.  The problem is if I tell Frontier Runtime to quit,
the volume gets unmounted.  Is it supposed to do that? Is there any way
around it? (My general philosophy is to try to quit applications as soon as
they finish serving their purpose, which, once the volume is mounted, has
happened in this case).

-roy

Roy S. Rapoport -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
510-540-5535 ext. 280
"It Wasn't Me"
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:52:34 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Jeff Wurtz <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re. Problem Pasting--Sticky Situation...

I wrote a droplet to do what I think you want. Two caveats:
a) max file size allowed by STE is only 32k so watch out!
b) extraneous garbage is left at the end of the output file; you can easily
   cut it out.

Perhaps this will be of some help to you.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cut Here <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
on open (fileList)
        tell application "Scriptable Text Editor"
                --create two "repository" windows
                make document with properties {name:"TOC"}
                make paragraph at beginning of window "TOC" with data "TOPICS:"
& return
                make window with properties {name:"Body Text"}

                repeat with inputFile in fileList
                        -- process each file dropped onto MyCombiner
                        open file (inputFile as string)
                        set firstPar to paragraph 1 of window 1
                        set allText to contents of window 1
                        make paragraph at end of window "TOC" with data firstPar
 & return
                        make text at end of window "Body Text" with data allText
 & return & return &
 return
                        close window 1 saving no
                end repeat

                make text at beginning of window "Body Text" with data (contents
 of window
 "TOC") & B
                        return & return
                close window "TOC" saving no
                try
                        with timeout of 999 seconds
                                set newFile to new file with prompt B
                                        "Name the combined file:" default name "
Combined File"
                        end timeout
                on error
                        beep
                end try
                close window "Body Text" saving in newFile

        end tell
end open

================
Jeffrey D. Wurtz
   Local:  skynet::wurtz  O/81-10  B/157  C/5J2  408.756.1377
Internet:  [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 18:54:58 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Steve Martin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      How to wait

Did anyone ever figure out a reasonable way to wait in AppleScript?

I'm trying to write a script to do something that I thought would be quite
simple: Quit NewsWatcher and close PPP.

Sounds simple right?  OK...

tell application "NewsWatcher" to quit
closePPP

Unfortunately, when NewsWatcher quits, it needs to send the newsrc file to
my unix host first and the script doesn't wait for it to finish.  The
closePPP happen before NewsWatcher actually quits and messes up its attempt
to send the file.

I tried using a repeat loop to wait until NewsWatcher isn't in the process
list, but it makes NewsWatcher's quit go extremely slow while AppleScript
sucks up all the processor time in its tight loop.  All I want is a "wait 1
second" like in Hypercard (without launching hypercard to do that!).

Sounds like a really easy OSAX for some OSAX programmer out there to add a
"wait" command.

Steve Martin (Please don't ask, I'm not the actor.)
  Internet: [e-mail]   NewtonMail: [e-mail]
Compuserve: 72727,1471    AppleLink: SteveMartin  AOL: Steve Mart
WWW: http://www.metronet.com/1/HomePages/martin which contains...
Upcoming letterboxed movie TV schedule and latest version of Dockernaut and
lots of links.
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:24:12 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      case of a conditional in applescript...

Looking through the applescript language guide and not finding anything,
I was wondering if there is something similar to c's switch or pascal's
case statements in applescript.

If not, is there an osax that will let you do this?

Anthony

*********************************************************************
*                                                                   *
*  Anthony Brown, Macintosh Programming Intern, Harvard Universtiy  *
*                                                                   *
*  "Classic Rock Music Station's,  The 70's are calling,            *
*   They want their 8 - Tracks back!"                               *
*                                                                   *
*   Dolphin's Rule!! Undefeated 17 - 0  The Perfect Team 1972-73    *
*                                                                   *
*********************************************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 17:52:32 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Doug Baron <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Update on handling dialog box buttons

>
>Cool! Where can I find Frontier Runtime?
>

If you want a binary sea instead of a (larget) hqx file, look in
ftp.netcom.com::ftp/pub/userland

Have fun!

Doug
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 17:55:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Bill Nye <[e-mail]>
Subject:      How to buy a SCRIPTABLE QuicKeys

Is buying QuicKeys 3.0.1 (list $169) enough to get me the Apple-scriptable
QuicKeys product that is regularly discussed in this mailing list?

I'm asking because the advertisement I'm looking at does not mention
"AppleScript" at all.

(Is the $89.95 MacWarehouse price the best I can do?)  -Bill Nye
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:17:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to buy a SCRIPTABLE QuicKeys

Bill Nye <[e-mail]> asks:

>Is buying QuicKeys 3.0.1 (list $169) enough to get me the Apple-scriptable
>QuicKeys product that is regularly discussed in this mailing list?
>
>I'm asking because the advertisement I'm looking at does not mention
>"AppleScript" at all.

I've got 3.0, and it included the OSA component, plus on-line documentation
for QuicKeys Script. It doesn't include AppleScript, of course, but if you
have that, QuicKeys appears automatically as another language option in the
Script Editor.

By the way, did they say what was different in 3.0.1 vs 3.0? I wonder if it
fixes the problem that was discussed in this list just a few days ago with
the "Jump" command...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 21:25:25 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston

I live in Nashua, NH... about 45 minutes north of Boston, and would really
like to stop by for some of the activities.  I got some stuff in the mail not
too long ago but would like more info.  Could someone post some basic info...
prices, times, or point me to where I can find it?

Thanks  :)

~Shaddar
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 21:30:12 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         anthony brown <[e-mail]>
Subject:      even more filemaker pro scripting questions...

I have a field in a fm pro record that has four checkboxes, and
anotherone that has 2 radio buttons.  My question is this:
How can I access the information of these fields from applescript?

I have tried to access them like this:
set info to (Class Info of Field "Product Number" of Record 1 of file
        temp) as string.

I have also tried to access it as a cell, but to no avail.

All I am trying to do is see if the checkboxes are checked or not, check
some of them depending on the settings that the user sets in my frontmost
window, and do the same thing with the radio buttons.  Can anyone of you
guys/gals point me in the right direction?

Another question:  Is there a FAQ for scripting fm Pro?  I have noticed a
lot of questions regarding this.  If not, then maybe a few of us can get
together via email and write a small FAQ on the subject of scripting fm
Pro.  I say this because there is no definative source on scripting
filemaker pro via applescript/frontmost/facespan...

Anthony


*********************************************************************
*                                                                   *
*  Anthony Brown, Macintosh Programming Intern, Harvard Universtiy  *
*                                                                   *
*  "Classic Rock Music Station's,  The 70's are calling,            *
*   They want their 8 - Tracks back!"                               *
*                                                                   *
*   Dolphin's Rule!! Undefeated 17 - 0  The Perfect Team 1972-73    *
*                                                                   *
*********************************************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:45:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Date Calculations update

I've just dropped an updated version of my Date Calculations scripting addition
in the incoming directory on gaea.kgs.ukans.edu. I haven't included any
release notes or anything; at some point I suppose I should update the
archive I previously sent to Sumex and resubmit that.

I changed the names of some of the record fields for the structure returned
by the "date items" command. I hadn't done enough testing with AppleScript 1.1
before, and I just discovered that words like "month" and "day" cause clashes!
So the fields are now called "month part", "day part" and so on. Also "secnds"
becomes "seconds part", which I'm sure you'll agree is preferable. :-)

Oh, and I found yet another quirk in the "date offset" command. The old code
had various workarounds for odd behaviour in the LongDateToSeconds system
routine; I rewrote and simplified it all somewhat, and hopefully it should
work better now.

By the way, does anybody else wonder at the inexplicability that

        month of (current date)

returns "July" in the result window, yet

        (month of (current date)) as text

produces the message "Can't make July into a string"?

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 01:03:38 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS and Frontier Runtime

>At 15:57 7/28/94 -0700, John W. Baxter wrote:
>
>>tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"   -- =81 is the trademark symbol
>>    |file.mountServerVolume| ("First Floor:AccountServer:AccountServer",
>>>"rrapoport", "xxxxx")   -- all on one line
>>end tell
>
>Great.  One last question (for now :) ):
>
>I've done it, it works.  The problem is if I tell Frontier Runtime to quit,
>the volume gets unmounted.  Is it supposed to do that? Is there any way
>around it? (My general philosophy is to try to quit applications as soon as
>they finish serving their purpose, which, once the volume is mounted, has
>happened in this case).

No, it's not supposed to do that.  I'll have to experiment, when I get some
time.  --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:23:37 GMT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Christophe Reverd <[e-mail]>
Organization: FranceNet
Subject:      AS: FTP Mirors Sites ?

Hi everybody,

Just one point :

Is there some mirors sites of the famous 'ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu' ?

Thanks for your help.
Regards

Christophe Reverd
____________________________
eMail : [e-mail]
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:09:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         robert patoine <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Boston

>
>>Is there suppose to be
>>some interesting materail or conferences about or ralted to AppleScrip?

Danny Goodman wrote..
>I'll be giving a talk on Wednesday afternoon about scripting applications
>with AppleScript.  The session is part of the conference program, and will be
>at the World Trade Center (2:30-3:50 pm).

That is a good reason to attend the conference, I'll be there,

and another  from Andy J. Williams

>    Well, we could all try to get together during the Netter's Dinner.
>It's Thursday night, 7pm, at the European Italian Restaurant. It's
>located in Boston's North End, pratically on the Freedom Trail, but I
>can't remember the exact address. It's a short walk from Faneuil Hall or
>the Haymarket T stop.
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Jul 1994 11:02:42 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Andy Cemelli [remote]" <[e-mail]>

Many of the messages i've been getting are missing hard returns
(particularly before "end if" and "end tell" is everyone having this
problem or is it just coming into our system this way or is it a more
advanced version of AppleScript that doesn't require a return before
the end of the "closing" items.

>>> Steve Michel <[e-mail]> - 7/26/94 3:58 PM >>>
if thefile is {} then
   set theFile to choose file with prompt "" of type "TEXT" end if
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:27:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         John Schettino <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to wait

>Did anyone ever figure out a reasonable way to wait in AppleScript?
>
>I'm trying to write a script to do something that I thought would be quite
>simple: Quit NewsWatcher and close PPP.
>
>Sounds simple right?  OK...
>
>tell application "NewsWatcher" to quit
>closePPP
>
>Unfortunately, when NewsWatcher quits, it needs to send the newsrc file to
>my unix host first and the script doesn't wait for it to finish.  The
>closePPP happen before NewsWatcher actually quits and messes up its attempt
>to send the file.
>
>I tried using a repeat loop to wait until NewsWatcher isn't in the process
>list, but it makes NewsWatcher's quit go extremely slow while AppleScript
>sucks up all the processor time in its tight loop.  All I want is a "wait 1
>second" like in Hypercard (without launching hypercard to do that!).
>
>Sounds like a really easy OSAX for some OSAX programmer out there to add a
>"wait" command.

Yeah, it does...
Until then, here's a hack using script objects... "the most powerful AS
construct"

-- save this as a stay open app!
property waitProc : {}
property repCnt : 2

-- you can have as many of these as you want!
-- they all *must* have a doit() handler, where the work gets done
script waitForNewsQuit
        on doit()
                -- is newswatcher gone?
                if not <however you test for this> then
                     set end of waitProc to me -- keep calling me
                end if
                -- If it's gone, just leave yourself off the stack
        end doit
end script

script doClosePPP
        on doit()
                closePPP
        end doit
end script

-- keep executing methods off of the stack, until the're all gone
-- then just quit
on idle
        -- pop next method to call off end of stack
        set nextCommand to item -1 of waitProc
        if number of items in waitProc > 1 then
                set waitProc to items 1 thru -2 of whatProc
        else
                set waitProc to {}
        end if

        -- call the next method
        nextCommand's doit()

        -- was that the last one?
        if (number of items in waitProc) is 0 then
                quit
        else
                return 5 -- or as often as you'd like
        end if
end idle

-- do your work in the run handler
on run
        ...
        tell application "NewsWatcher" to quit
        set end of whatProc to doClosePPP -- push on action
        set end of whatProc to waitForNewsQuit -- push on action
end run


- john

-----------------------------------------
[e-mail]             GTE Laboratories
John Schettino                Waltham, MA
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:07:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Date Calculations update
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Fri, 29 Jul 94 14:45:00 +1100"

>I've just dropped an updated version of my Date Calculations scripting additio
>n
>in the incoming directory on gaea.kgs.ukans.edu. I haven't included any
>release notes or anything; at some point I suppose I should update the
>archive I previously sent to Sumex and resubmit that.

I've moved Lawrence's Date Calculations osax into

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/osaxen/DateCalculations.hqx

I've left the old version in place for now since it has a readme file and a
sample script.

Cheers.

pf
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:27:41 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Danny Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston

>Is there a way to get the disk from the publisher

Yes.  Call Random House at 1-800-733-3000 and order the Complete AppleScript
Handbook Update Disk (ISBN: 0-679-75537-3).  Cost is $4.75.  There have been
some outrageous snafus among order takers/warehouse people there (when their
master disk got corrupted, it never occurred to them to ask for another so
they could duplicate more).  I'm told things are getting back to sanity
there.

Danny Goodman
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:34:46 EDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Danny Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Date Calculations update

>By the way, does anybody else wonder at the inexplicability that
>
>        month of (current date)
>
>returns "July" in the result window, yet
>
>        (month of (current date)) as text
>
>produces the message "Can't make July into a string"?

The month names are all constants in AS, and it appears that constants cannot
be coerced to strings.

Danny Goodman
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:01:47 CDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Taylor Leaming H3-283 <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston

> >Is there a way to get the disk from the publisher
>
> Yes.  Call Random House at 1-800-733-3000 and order the Complete AppleScript
> Handbook Update Disk (ISBN: 0-679-75537-3).  Cost is $4.75.  There have been
> some outrageous snafus among order takers/warehouse people there (when their
> master disk got corrupted, it never occurred to them to ask for another so
> they could duplicate more).  I'm told things are getting back to sanity
> there.
>
> Danny Goodman

I guess that isn't a real problem for a book...   ;^)

BTW, Danny, I like your book.  I keep borrowing a copy but I'm going to
finally get my own.  Too bad I can't go to MacWorld and get a personalized
copy....(sigh!).

-Taylor
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:11:38 -0600
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Stephen Nesbitt <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Timing

>>Did anyone ever figure out a reasonable way to wait in AppleScript?
>>
>>I'm trying to write a script to do something that I thought would be quite
>>simple: Quit NewsWatcher and close PPP.
>>
>>Sounds simple right?  OK...
>>
>>tell application "NewsWatcher" to quit
>>closePPP
>>
>>Unfortunately, when NewsWatcher quits, it needs to send the newsrc file to
>>my unix host first and the script doesn't wait for it to finish.  The
>>closePPP happen before NewsWatcher actually quits and messes up its attempt
>>to send the file.

Really good discussion touching on an aspect of scripting which I continue
to struggle with - synchronizing AEs.

As I do more and more scripting using AEs, with Frontier, I keep running
into the problem of determining, or even knowing, when a client app has
processed an AE. How do I know, for example, when an app I launched is ready
to accept a doScript command?

Basically, I think the questions are:
1) With Frontier & AS, when is the command following one AEs command invoked
- as soon as the command is issued? when the AE returns a value?

2) Is there a standard means to determine if a client is in a "ready" state
for certain AEs - e.g. not accepting doScript commands because of
initialization activities.

3) If the scripter needs to wrap events around a sleep routine, what is a
reasonable sleep time? seconds or ticks? how many?

4) After a sleep session how can the server determine the client is
completed with the given task. For example is a TRUE status for
sys.appIsRunning(appID) mean that the app has been told to launch, has just
started launching or is launched and idle?

Aesthetically, I really don't like timing routines - it seems to me that its
a lowest common denominator routine which will require constant tweaking to
adjust to different processor speeds and system loads - a 30 tick sleep may
be great for the 601 and totally inadequate for a Mac Classic.

Inquiring minds want to know!


-steve
[e-mail]
"Don't let the blues stop you singing,
 you've only got a broken wing,
 You just hang on to my rainbow sleeves" - Tom Waits
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:16:34 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS and Frontier Runtime

At 16:43 7/28/94 -0800, Roy S. Rapoport wrote:
>>tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"   -- =81 is the trademark symbol
>>    |file.mountServerVolume| ("First Floor:AccountServer:AccountServer",
>>>"rrapoport", "xxxxx")   -- all on one line
>>end tell
>
>Great.  One last question (for now :) ):
>
>I've done it, it works.  The problem is if I tell Frontier Runtime to quit,
>the volume gets unmounted.  Is it supposed to do that? Is there any way
>around it? (My general philosophy is to try to quit applications as soon as
>they finish serving their purpose, which, once the volume is mounted, has
>happened in this case).

It doesn't happen here...that is the volume remains mounted when I quit
Runtime.  I'm using PowerPC version of Runtime 3.0.3, (which shouldn't
matter vs the 68K version), and "Personal Filesharing" in System 7.x on my
IIci as the server.  I suppose other servers could give other results.

If you're still having the problem there, I'll reverse machines and try again.
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 12:25:19 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Date Calculations update
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Danny Goodman" at Jul 29, 94 11:34:46 am

--Danny Goodman wrote:
>
>>By the way, does anybody else wonder at the inexplicability that
>>
>>        month of (current date)
>>
>>returns "July" in the result window, yet

    If you have AS 1.1 there are definitely no quotes around the July
beucase it's not returning a script. It's returning the name of the
month as an enumerated constant.

>>        (month of (current date)) as text
>>
>>produces the message "Can't make July into a string"?
>
>The month names are all constants in AS, and it appears that constants cannot
>be coerced to strings.

    You know this sounds an awful lot like the old enumerated data type
problem from Pascal. I wonder if there is any relation between the two?

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 12:35:05 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Frontier & TCP/IP osax: Receiving binary data?

Has anyone managed to successfully script a TCP/IP binary data transfer
through the TCP/IP osax?  I was trying to write a simple script to
download weather image .GIFs from the UIUC weather archive, but two
problems arise:

1.  The script terminates early, having sucked up only 1/3 of the file

2.  The data that did come through is not the same as gopher received
    when the image was manually transferred.

Here's the script (in UserLand Frontier dialect):

=AB request IR image from the server
tcpip.tcpWrite(myStream, "0/Images/Satellite Images/Satellite East
IR/00LATEST.GIF" + char(13), using: tcpip.iso88591);
clock.waitSeconds(5); =AB seems to be necessary

=AB read the entire input stream buffer
tcpip.tcpReceive(myStream, "/:tmp:Satellite East IR", using: tcpip.iso88591)=
;

=AB close the stream
tcpip.tcpClose(myStream)


Thanks for information...

-David.


____________________________________________________

David C. Myers
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:41:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Date Calculations update

>>By the way, does anybody else wonder at the inexplicability that
>>
>>        month of (current date)
>>
>>returns "July" in the result window, yet
>>
>>        (month of (current date)) as text
>>
>>produces the message "Can't make July into a string"?
>
>The month names are all constants in AS, and it appears that constants cann=
ot
>be coerced to strings.

With just a little help:

set m to month of (current date)
tell application "Frontier Runtime=81"  -- =81 is trademark
    |string|(m)  -- pipes prevent collision between string and string
end tell

Of course, what comes back (today) is "jul ", which isn't what one wants,
anyhow.  So either a nasty chain of ifs (not cross cultural in any easy way
at all) or an osax (which can easily be cross-cultural) is more useful for
this job.

By the way, you can also induce Frontier to give you the month as an index.
This one is most easily developed by writing some UserTalk in a separate
script, in Script Editor (setting the language to UserTalk, must have
Runtime running to do so):

local (day, month, year, hour, minute, second);
date.get (clock.now(), @day, @month, @year, @hour, @minute, @second);
return (month)

Having proven that, though, you can pass it in a doScript:

tell application "UserLand Frontier=81"
    set monthNum to Do Script "local (day, month, year, hour, minute, second=
);
date.get (clock.now(), @day, @month, @year, @hour, @minute, @second);
return (month)"
end tell
monthNum


which returns 7 (today, 8 soon...where did July go, anyhow).
   --John

--
[e-mail] (John W. Baxter)  Port Ludlow, WA
finger me to prove I'm all wet (Port Ludlow rainfall numbers).
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 12:09:15 CDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Peter Fleck - SMM <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Basic Questions

Greetings,

I've been lurking on this list for a while and I'm finally writing my
first useful AppleScript. I have questions, some of which are very
basic, I think. I can post the whole script (not real long) if it
would help and if folks would be interested in critiquing my style.

The Script
----------
I log on a local TeleFinder BBS. TeleFinder is similar to First Class
in that it gives the user a Mac-like interface. After downloading a
bunch of files, I want TeleFinder to hang up the modem. TF does have a
dictionary and it includes a Hang Up command.

The problem is there is no way to tell when the download is done.
First I tried sending Hang Up during the download, thinking it
wouldn't activate until the download finished but no such luck. It
hung up during the download.

So I'm using the Menu Events OSAX to figure out when the Special Menu
is enabled which means the Hang Up command is available. I tried
working directly with the Hang Up command menu item but Menu Events
said it was enabled when it wasn't. The OSAX seems to report the
status of the Special Menu correctly.

Questions
---------
TeleFinder needs to be open for this script to work. As far as I can
tell, AS and the standard OSAXen don't provide a way to find this out.
I'm using "list applications" from the GTQ Scripting Library. Is there
a standard AS way to do this?

I use the Dialog Display OSAX several times and my reading of the docs
indicates that it should return "Cancel" in the "button returned"
record. It returns nothing when cancel is clicked. I have to use a Try
statement and trap for the error -128. Am I missing something.

I'm using an idle handler to continue checking the Special Menu. I set
some variables right before "on idle" for use in the handler. But AS
says the variables are not defined once the idle handler starts
running. By setting the variables with a Property statement, they work
through the whole script. Does the "on idle" sort of start a new
segment, erasing previous local variables (meaning I need the global
property statement)?

Main Question
-------------
I use a Choose File command to have the user select their copy of TF
at the beginning of my script, then store that info in a property so
they only need this the first time through. Here's my command:

set TF_Loc to (choose file with prompt (cont. char)
                "Please locate your Telefinder User Application." of type
{"APPL"})
as text

I then want to use TF_Loc throughout the script. Works fine for the
most part except when I actually want TF to hang up. Here's the
pertinent part of the script:

on idle
  tell application TF_Loc
                  activate
                   [menu checking stuff here]

                  if hangUpNow then
                                        Hang Up
                          tell me to quit -- shut down the script
     end if
  end tell
end idle

When I try to compile this, I get a syntax error: "Expected end of
line, etc. but found application constant or consideration." Without
the Hang Up command, this works fine (meaning the "activate" is
getting through).

Using (within the idle and tell parts):

  tell application "TeleFinder*/User 3.2.6" to Hang up

works but this means I have to know the name of the user's TF copy.

I found a workaround. I substituted "TeleFinder" for TF_Loc in the
initial Tell statement that follows on idle. AS then figures out (or
asks the user) where TeleFinder is and remembers from there on. And
the Hang Up works. But I still want to know why I couldn't use the
variable to refer to TF


Distribution
------------
Can I include the OSAXen (Menu Events, List Applications) with my
Script without including the whole GTQ and Menu Events package? The
docs, at least for GTQ seem to state otherwise.


Peter Fleck
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:35:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Evad, Paul" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Help with deleting folders

If this is a duplicate message please forgive, I sent it out two days ago...
and I didn't notice it showing up on the list... we seem to be having some
problems with our mail server.

 I need to look at the creation dates of a list of folders in a specific
folder (ignoring files), looking at the creation date of the folders and
deleting all folders with a creation date < current date - 3 days.

Here is my complete script so far, please forgive the long post and feel free
to comment and hack this one apart as I am a novice in scripting...

______________________________________________________________________

property sourceFolders : {}
property destFolder : "NULL"
property confirmBackups : false
-- locate the folder(s) that are to be backed up. This is done first time the
script is run
if (sourceFolders = {}) then
 set sourceFolders to
  choose several folders with prompt
   "Select folders to backup:" starting with sourceFolders
end if
-- Locate the folder where the backup archive is to be placed
if (destFolder = "NULL") then
 set destFolder to choose folder with prompt "Select destination folder:"
end if
set folderNamestring to (current date) as string
set oldDelimiters to AppleScript's text item delimiters
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {","}
set monthName to word 2 of folderNamestring
set dayName to word 3 of folderNamestring
set hourname to word 5 of folderNamestring
set minname to word 6 of folderNamestring
set ampmname to word 8 of folderNamestring

set AppleScript's text item delimiters to oldDelimiters
set BfolderName to monthName & " " & dayName & " " & hourname & " " & minname
& " " & ampmname
create folder (BfolderName) as string in destFolder
set Bpath to (destFolder as string) & BfolderName & ":"
set Filestomove to list folder of sourceFolders

**  tell FinderLib
**   copyFiles from sourceFolders to Bpath as string with warning
**  end tell
**  set folderlist to list folder destFolder
**  if (get fileinfo creation date of folder list)   (current date) - 129600
**  then tell application "Finder"
**  activate
**  delete theFolder

___________________________________________________________________

another problem I have with the above is the need for FinderLib - ideally I
would like this script to run on any macintosh with the minimal "applescript
extensions" neccessary.

I have ** the relevent sections.

Comments? Suggestions? Solutions?

Paul Evad
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:50:17 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: case of a conditional in applescript...
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "anthony brown" at Jul 28, 94 08:24:12 pm

--anthony brown wrote:
>
>Looking through the applescript language guide and not finding anything,
>I was wondering if there is something similar to c's switch or pascal's
>case statements in applescript.

    Nope.

>If not, is there an osax that will let you do this?

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'd almost kill for a
decent implimentation of a case statement for AppleScript.

-Hades
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:57:30 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MacWorld, Boston
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "[e-mail]" at Jul 28, 94 09:25:25 pm

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>I live in Nashua, NH... about 45 minutes north of Boston, and would really
>like to stop by for some of the activities.  I got some stuff in the mail not
>too long ago but would like more info.  Could someone post some basic info...
>prices, times, or point me to where I can find it?

    The best source for this is a current issue of MacWorld magazine.
Specifically the June, July, or August(I think) issues. Aside from what
has been in MacWorld, the only other info that we pre-registration types
have received is a simple conference schedule. All other information is
contained in the MacWorld Expo booklet that you get when you arrive.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:01:16 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Derrick Schneider <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Second edition of Tao book

Howdy all!

Just joined the list and thought I'd make my first contribution an announcement.

The Second Edition of The Tao of AppleScript will be available at Boston Expo,
 from both Hayden and BMUG. I'm not quite sure of the pricing, but I think it's
 about $5 more than the last one.

New features:
1.1 coverage (big surprise, huh?)
Scriptable Finder coverage
Whole section of sample scripts illustrating different AS concepts
All in all, about 400 pages worth of book (total, not changed!)

Two disks, instead of one. Disk 1 is the official AppleScript Runtime Kit (not
 just the bare bones, like we did in the original Tao). Disk 2 is filled with
 lots more stuff in the way of shareware et al. Not, I regret to say, the
 scriptable Finder.
For those who complained before, all the scripts are also included on the disk.

I won't be there, but do stop by the BMUG booth and pick up your copy.

Derrick
P.S. I don't think there's an upgrade policy.
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:01:56 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Boston
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "robert patoine" at Jul 29, 94 10:09:25 am

--robert patoine wrote:
>
>and another  from Andy J. Williams
>
>>    Well, we could all try to get together during the Netter's Dinner.
>>It's Thursday night, 7pm, at the European Italian Restaurant. It's
>>located in Boston's North End, pratically on the Freedom Trail, but I
>>can't remember the exact address. It's a short walk from Faneuil Hall or
>>the Haymarket T stop.

    Actually, I wrote the above paragraph in a reply to a message that
Andy posted to the list. Just trying to keep the attribution straight.

-Hades
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:15:44 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: even more filemaker pro scripting questions...
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "anthony brown" at Jul 28, 94 09:30:12 pm

--anthony brown wrote:
>
>I have a field in a fm pro record that has four checkboxes, and
>anotherone that has 2 radio buttons.  My question is this:
>How can I access the information of these fields from applescript?

    There is one piece of information that you need to access these
fields that you seem to be lacking. Which is the fact that a field
defined to show up as a checkbox or radio button group is nothing more
than a text field (usually) with a different kind of display. So when
you check off items in a checkbox what you are really doing is putting
the checked value into the field. The checkbox interface has no real
relation to the data contained in the field, it's just an easier way to
enter that data.

>I have tried to access them like this:
>set info to (Class Info of Field "Product Number" of Record 1 of file
>        temp) as string.
>
>I have also tried to access it as a cell, but to no avail.

   Remember, when scripting FM Pro, a Cell is a single value for a given
record and a Field is actually a list of values from a given cell over
the current range of records. Think of an FM Pro database as a table
where the rows are records, the columns are fields, and the intersection
of a row and a column is a cell. It will make your life much easier when
you try to script FM Pro. (This also explains why the Apple Event
Dictionary for FM Pro contains a subset of the Table suite)

>All I am trying to do is see if the checkboxes are checked or not, check
>some of them depending on the settings that the user sets in my frontmost
>window, and do the same thing with the radio buttons.  Can anyone of you
>guys/gals point me in the right direction?

    If you want to see if a checkbox is checked all you need to do is
get the value of the Cell from the record you want, and then see if that
Cell contains the value of the ckeckboxes you are looking for. If it
does, then those items have been checked, if it doesn't they haven't.
The same goes for radio buttons with this exception: there is a maximum
of one value for a radio button. A checkbox can have a maximum of one
value for each checkbox item.

>Another question:  Is there a FAQ for scripting fm Pro?  I have noticed a
>lot of questions regarding this.  If not, then maybe a few of us can get
>together via email and write a small FAQ on the subject of scripting fm
>Pro.  I say this because there is no definative source on scripting
>filemaker pro via applescript/frontmost/facespan...

    There is no FAQ for scripting FM Pro, but I'm not too sure there
really needs to me much of one, if any at all (nice sentence... ;). Once
you understand FM Pro's dictionary and you understand how the Apple
Event Object Model works, FM Pro really isn't that tough to work with.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:58:54 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Hopkins <[e-mail]>
Subject:      ScriptWizard 1.0.1fc1 update available

We have uploaded patchers to Gaea that make ScriptWizard 1.0.1fc1 from the
commercially released ScriptWizard version 1.0 software. The new version is
not yet commercially released, and we are still shipping version 1.0 to our
customers; we are making these patch files widely available to existing
customers to make sure there are no outstanding bugs in the new version
before we put it into production. There are two patch files included with
this package: one to update the US release of the software, and one to
update the UK release of the software.

ScriptWizard 1.0.1 will be a bug fix release. It does not contain feature
enhancements or major changes. There are five changes:

* A "debugger break" in the Dictionary window has been removed; the break
message dropped into Macsbug with the message "ScanAETE failed". This error
is now reported with an "out of memory" alert box.

* A fix to eliminate crashes when using the "Locate" popup on long files.

* A fix to correct errors in the "find" function on long files.

* The "Open" file dialog boxes no longer attempt to resolve and open every
alias file they encounter. This means that the program will be unable to
open a file (if it isn't openable) even if an alias to the file appeared in
the dialog box, but the benefit is that ScriptWizard will no longer cause
the file system to ask for offline media to be reinserted while displaying
the file dialog boxes.

* The Dictionary window now marks "optional" parameters of Apple events.

The patch files have been uploaded to Gaea, for attention by the
moderators. They are ONLY available by FTP from Gaea.

Mike Hopkins                |   PH:  [phone]
Full Moon Software, Inc.    |   FAX: [phone]
P.O. Box 700237             |   CIS: 70713,2664
San Jose, CA  95170         |   AOL: MHopkins
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 12:01:49 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was [e-mail]
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      mail sent to: Multiple recipients of list MACSCRPT
              <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

In the future, please use the address:
  [e-mail]
when sending mail to:
  Multiple recipients of list MACSCRPT <[e-mail]>

This will insure that they will always receive mail on the machine
they have designated as their mailhost, and mail will not get lost.

Thanks!
Willamette Postmaster
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:10:31 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Fred Terry <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: ScriptWizard patch
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:59:00 -0900"

Folks,

>We have uploaded a release candidate for a ScriptWizard patch to gaea as
>follows:
>
>-rw-rw-rw-   1 40098    30         87980 Jul 29 18:52 SW(1.0.1fc1).sit.hqx
>

You'll find the patcher in

ftp://gaea.kgs.ukans.edu/applescript/demos/SW1.01fc1.sit.hqx

pf
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 01:35:11 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Opening files on remote machines

I think somsone was asking about opening files on a remote machine.
Maybe the following stuff will help.  It's from "Finder Scripting Toolkit
v1.0".  There's other cool Finder scripting stuff in it too.

Finder Scripting Toolkit v1.0
Freeware by Daniel Ranson

Finder Scripting Toolkit is an alternative to the FinderLib provided with
AppleScript. It gives AppleScript access to the full Finder (7.0, 7.1)
Apple Events suite, does not require an aete resource for recompilation,
and has a very low memory overhead. It is expected that script writers
will copy the handlers they need to their own scripts. The handlers are
independant of each other, making this easy.


--
--      RemoteOpenObjects
--
--      Opens a list of Finder objects, as if they were double-clicked in
the Finder.
--      This variant sends the command to a remote Finder in the same zone.
--      The aliases must be meaningful to this remote Finder.
--
--      Parameters
--              cont (alias) : folder containing the objects.
--              objs (alias list) : objects to open.
--              mach (string) : name of remote machine.
--
--      Examples
--              RemoteOpenObjects(alias "Disk:", {alias "Disk:file",
alias "Disk:folder:"}, "Bob's Mac")
--
on RemoteOpenObjects(cont, objs, mach)
        tell application "Finder" of machine mach to Gevent FNDRsopeH
cont given Gclass fselH:objs
end RemoteOpenObjects

--
--      RemoteOpenObjectsWithZone
--
--      Opens a list of Finder objects, as if they were double-clicked in
the Finder.
--      This variant sends the command to a remote Finder in any zone.
--      The aliases must be meaningful to this remote Finder.
--
--      Parameters
--              cont (alias) : folder containing the objects.
--              objs (alias list) : objects to open.
--              mach (string) : name of remote machine.
--              zn (string) : name of zone.
--
--      Examples
--              RemoteOpenObjectsWithZone(alias "Disk:", {alias
"Disk:file", alias "Disk:folder:"}, "Bob's Mac", "2nd floor")
--
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 15:50:35 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Roy Eassa <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: ScriptWizard 1.0.1fc1 update available

At 11:58 AM 7/29/94 -0800, Mike Hopkins wrote:
>We have uploaded patchers to Gaea that make ScriptWizard 1.0.1fc1 from the
>commercially released ScriptWizard version 1.0 software. The new version is
>not yet commercially released, and we are still shipping version 1.0 to our
>customers; we are making these patch files widely available to existing
>customers to make sure there are no outstanding bugs in the new version
>before we put it into production. There are two patch files included with
>this package: one to update the US release of the software, and one to
>update the UK release of the software.
>
>ScriptWizard 1.0.1 will be a bug fix release. It does not contain feature
>enhancements or major changes. There are five changes:
>
>* A "debugger break" in the Dictionary window has been removed; the break
>message dropped into Macsbug with the message "ScanAETE failed". This error
>is now reported with an "out of memory" alert box.
>
>* A fix to eliminate crashes when using the "Locate" popup on long files.
>
>* A fix to correct errors in the "find" function on long files.
>
>* The "Open" file dialog boxes no longer attempt to resolve and open every
>alias file they encounter. This means that the program will be unable to
>open a file (if it isn't openable) even if an alias to the file appeared in
>the dialog box, but the benefit is that ScriptWizard will no longer cause
>the file system to ask for offline media to be reinserted while displaying
>the file dialog boxes.
>
>* The Dictionary window now marks "optional" parameters of Apple events.
>
>The patch files have been uploaded to Gaea, for attention by the
>moderators. They are ONLY available by FTP from Gaea.
>
>Mike Hopkins                |   PH:  [phone]
>Full Moon Software, Inc.    |   FAX: [phone]
>P.O. Box 700237             |   CIS: 70713,2664
>San Jose, CA  95170         |   AOL: MHopkins


--
Roy Eassa
[e-mail]
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:33:10 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Brian Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: MACSCRPT Digest - 27 Jul 1994 to 28 Jul 1994

>The start and stop log events simply turn event logging on and off so that
>you can localize the event logging to your area of interest.  That's not so
>cool.  What's cool is that the log command takes a string and prints that
>to the log window.  You can use this instead of display dialog!

Hey - that *is* a cool tip!  I had "display dialog" surrounded by "if
debugging" all over my scripts!

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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 15:13:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: AS and Frontier Runtime

At  9:16 7/29/94 -0700, John W. Baxter wrote:

>>I've done it, it works.  The problem is if I tell Frontier Runtime to quit,
>>the volume gets unmounted.  Is it supposed to do that? Is there any way
>>around it? (My general philosophy is to try to quit applications as soon as
>>they finish serving their purpose, which, once the volume is mounted, has
>>happened in this case).
>
>It doesn't happen here...that is the volume remains mounted when I quit
>Runtime.  I'm using PowerPC version of Runtime 3.0.3, (which shouldn't
>matter vs the 68K version), and "Personal Filesharing" in System 7.x on my
>IIci as the server.  I suppose other servers could give other results.
>
>If you're still having the problem there, I'll reverse machines and try again.

Well, it could have been worse.  I was about to send the list a message
saying, "MountVol  (the AS addition) mounts a volume, but it gets unmounted
after exactly 5 seconds! Help!"

Then I figured I'd try another volume, and lo and behold, is suddenly
worked.  So hey, I figured I'd try the frontier thing again, with a
different server.

I'm such an idiot -- I set up file sharing, but forgot to tell it which
files to share, so I can log on, but not get access to anything ...

Nevermind ...
-roy
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20:08:30 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Opening files on remote machines

Where can "Finder Scripting Toolkit v1.0" be found? It doesn't seem to be on
gaea.

(Pete Hinely <[e-mail]> wrote:
Finder Scripting Toolkit v1.0
Freeware by Daniel Ranson
an alternative to the FinderLib provided with
AppleScript. It gives AppleScript access to the full Finder (7.0, 7.1)
Apple Events suite, does not require an aete resource for recompilation,
and has a very low memory overhead.
)

Boris Levitin                                  WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston
                                   [e-mail] * [e-mail]
              I produced this message and am solely responsible for its content
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20:18:10 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Boris Levitin <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Finder Scripting Toolkit

Sorry, I did find FST, in the scripts directory on gaea.
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 17:41:17 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Weird Error Message

The fun continues ... I've got a script that makes use of the Finder
Scripting Toolkit routines.  When I run it on my machine, it's fine.  When
I run it on another machine, it goes to the line that has
tell application "Finder" to ...

highlights *JUST* the second quotes mark, and says "File not found."

What does this mean?
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:30:54 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Opening files on remote machines
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 29 Jul 1994, Boris Levitin wrote:

> Where can "Finder Scripting Toolkit v1.0" be found? It doesn't seem to be on
> gaea.

I forget where I got it, but it was probably the University of Michigan
mac archives.  They are really nice archives because there is a brief
description of every file in the index.  Try
gopher gopher.archive.merit.edu and explore the mac development directory I
think it is.  The directory has a whole bunch of scripting additions and
other stuff in it.

-peter
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 17:55:07 -0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Roy S. Rapoport" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Weird Errors

Nevermind.  I rebooted and somehow that solved it...

-roy
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 21:33:48 -0500
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject:      More on Frontier & TCP/IP [longish, with code]

A follow-up to my own earlier question...

Attached is some sample code showing how to do binary transfers under
gopher using Frontier and the TCP/IP osax.  There were a couple of
problems with my earlier script...1) gopher "tags" the kind of file
transfer you want to do; this is the purpose of the number prefix you
see in gopher URLs.  "0" means text, apparently.  "9" means GIF.
I had to change the tcpWrite function call to specify this "9" tag.
2) The tcpReceive command is not asynchronous; call it and you'll
tie up your computer until the download is finished.

This script may be useful to applescripters, after some reasonably
self-evident changes are made.

Code follows.  The comments are going to be garbagey, owing to the
high-bit characters.


lf =3D char(10);

try { =AB attempt to establish connection to weather server
        myStream =3D tcpip.tcpConnect(toHost: "wx.atmos.uiuc.edu", port: 70)=
}
else { =AB signal the error
        dialog.notify ("Unable to make connection to wx.atmos.uiuc.edu
Weather Server.");
        return false};

file.new(path1);

=AB request IR image from the server
tcpip.tcpWrite(myStream, "9/Images/Satellite Images/Satellite East
IR/00LATEST" + char(13), using: tcpip.iso88591);

=AB read the entire input stream buffer
while not tcpip.tcpAhead(myStream, lf) { =AB kill time waiting for connectio=
n
        continue};
while (true) {
        data =3D tcpip.tcpRead(myStream);
        if data { =AB got data?  good
                file.write(path1, data);
                clock.waitSeconds(1)}  =AB go too fast, and you'll outrun TC=
P!
        else { =AB no?  try once more...
                clock.waitSeconds(10); =AB wait a little longer this time
                data =3D tcpip.tcpRead(myStream);
                if data { =AB it was there after all
                        file.write(path1, data)}
                else { =AB truly no data, so quit and close up
                        break}}}

file.close(myStream);



There's an obvious problem with this script: it depends on coarse
timing figures to determine if the connection has finished.  Basically,
if nothing's come over the line in 10 seconds, it assumes the transfer
is done.  I'm still trying to understand the TCP osax interface to
determine if there's a better way to check for connection closure.

I'd be curious to e-talk with other TCP applescripters or usertalkers,
to see how others have done these things.

-David.
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Jul 1994 21:41:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "John W. Baxter" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Making Frontier wait for KeyQuencer

>I'm trying to automate a job which requires altering Eudora's In box file.
>Before doing this, I wanted to have Eudora compact its mailboxes.
>KeyQuencer.doScript (string) just sends the AppleEvent to KQ AppleEvents
>which is running in the background. If I execute the following code from
>OSA Menu, I hear the speaker beep before the compacting starts, which is
>what I expect; Frontier is just sending the events and then going on.
>
>on testScript () {
>    bundle { =ABCompact the mailboxes
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Menu "Special" "Compact Mailboxes"=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Wait 1 seconds=B2); =ABLet it start
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3WaitWindow "In" open=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3Click closebox=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3WaitWindow "In" close=B2);
>        KeyQuencer.doScript (=B3SwitchApp "Frontier" partial=B2)};
>    speaker.beep ();
>    return (true)};
>
>testScript ()
>
>if I insert, before the speaker.beep (), the fragment
>
>    while not (sys.frontmostApp () contains "Frontier")
>        sys.systemTask () =AB or clock.waitSeconds (1); it doesn't matter
>
>my system will hang. If I just insert clock.waitSeconds (10) instead, the
>system will wait 10 seconds, then I'll hear the beep, and *then* Eudora
>will begin compacting the mailboxes. It appears that I'm having trouble
>getting Frontier to relinquish the system. Since I'm running under OSA
>Menu, Eudora is in front when all this starts. Thanks in advance.

Hi, David...sorry for the delay responding.  Please understand that I don't
have KeyQuencer, so I'm partly guessing.

   Since you are triggering this scripting sequence from OSA Menu, I think
you are going to need to arrange to let OSA Menu believe the sequence has
terminated, thus letting OSA Menu terminate its control of what is
happening.  I see some things you could experiment with:

1.  (I don't like this one...there will be a delay of up to one minute
before any action takes place [but after the trigger script returns to OSA
Menu].  One minute in this context is "forever")
   Have the script executed by OSA Menu install a one-time Scheduler task,
which does the actual work.  See the Scheduler suite.

2.  Much like #1, but would use an agent whose last act is to remove itself
from the system.agents table.  The trigger script called by OSA Menu would
install the agent in the agents table, and probably execute script.compile
() upon it to insure that it runs.

3.  Have the trigger script use the finderEvent () verb to send Frontier an
event which says to run the action script.  No reason that can't be in the
form
    finderEvent ('LAND', 'misc', 'dosc', callToActionScript (...))
The finderEvent () verb is like the Apple event verb except that, since the
"classic" Finder verbs never return a result, finderEvent doesn't wait for
one.

   Please let us know what you work out!  --John

--John W. Baxter    Port Ludlow, WA USA   [e-mail]
  UserLand Software support
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 30 Jul 1994 08:56:19 CDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Peter Fleck - SMM <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Basic Questions

[I apologize if this is a duplicate message but I haven't seen it
on the list and I've received no replies.]

Greetings,

I've been lurking on this list for a while and I'm finally writing my
first useful AppleScript. I have questions, some of which are very
basic, I think. I can post the whole script (not real long) if it
would help and if folks would be interested in critiquing my style.

The Script
----------
I log on a local TeleFinder BBS. TeleFinder is similar to First Class
in that it gives the user a Mac-like interface. After downloading a
bunch of files, I want TeleFinder to hang up the modem. TF does have a
dictionary and it includes a Hang Up command.

The problem is there is no way to tell when the download is done.
First I tried sending Hang Up during the download, thinking it
wouldn't activate until the download finished but no such luck. It
hung up during the download.

So I'm using the Menu Events OSAX to figure out when the Special Menu
is enabled which means the Hang Up command is available. I tried
working directly with the Hang Up command menu item but Menu Events
said it was enabled when it wasn't. The OSAX seems to report the
status of the Special Menu correctly.

Questions
---------
TeleFinder needs to be open for this script to work. As far as I can
tell, AS and the standard OSAXen don't provide a way to find this out.
I'm using "list applications" from the GTQ Scripting Library. Is there
a standard AS way to do this?

I use the Dialog Display OSAX several times and my reading of the docs
indicates that it should return "Cancel" in the "button returned"
record. It returns nothing when cancel is clicked. I have to use a Try
statement and trap for the error -128. Am I missing something.

I'm using an idle handler to continue checking the Special Menu. I set
some variables right before "on idle" for use in the handler. But AS
says the variables are not defined once the idle handler starts
running. By setting the variables with a Property statement, they work
through the whole script. Does the "on idle" sort of start a new
segment, erasing previous local variables (meaning I need the global
property statement)?

Main Question
-------------
I use a Choose File command to have the user select their copy of TF
at the beginning of my script, then store that info in a property so
they only need thist of the dictionary.  Yes, I'll upgrade
when the next release comes out, but can you point me to some documentation
for the current release?


>>2.  Must I recursively search through all the items within the Stuffit
>>archives?
>>
>        Yup, if you want your dates to be correct.
>
>>Is there any way to look at each file iteratively (like a
>>depth-first walk through the tree with Stuffit handling the hierarchy), or
>>must I recurse?  Again, the dictionary and manual do not make this clear at
>>all!
>>
>        Yup.  There is a sample of this that our tech support department
>provides.

Hold on.  I asked whether I must use recursion or if I can get by with
iteration instead, and you answered "yes" to both!  Which is it, forced
recursion?  Or is iteration possible instead?

Thanks!


--
Roy Eassa
[e-mail]
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Date:         Sat, 30 Jul 1994 21:44:32 MST
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         [e-mail]
Subject:      Sorry.

If anyone received multiple copies of the digest, I am truly sorry. Mail
services on the VAX are not all that transparent to use.

Lawson D. English [e-mail]

-INSERT INFORMATIVE AND WITTY MESSAGE HERE-

West Campus Internet Class of 1994
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 30 Jul 1994 22:31:37 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Ray <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: How to buy a SCRIPTABLE QuicKeys

>Bill Nye <[e-mail]> asks:
>
>>Is buying QuicKeys 3.0.1 (list $169) enough to get me the Apple-scriptable
>>QuicKeys product that is regularly discussed in this mailing list?

I don't understand why anyone familiar with AppleScript would be interested
in spending $$$ for Quickkeys when they have the same functionality for
less money and without any new inits from the AutoType/AutoClick OSAXEN.

-Dave
(a satisfied AutoType customer)

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David Ray                Dream Designs          Music Composition
[e-mail]         PO Box 5631            Interactive Multimedia
510-527-9010             Berkeley CA 94705      Virtual Worlds
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 1 Aug 1994 02:01:30 +0800
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Todd Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Filemaker Pro - printing

The dictionary for FileMaker Pro shows a print command with an
object specifier.

If you say

print

FM brings up the print dialog box. Once I hit OK it gives me an error stating
that "some parameter was invalid".

Adding an object (e.g. print window "x") gives a different error
message of "can't make some data into the expected type".

Does anybody have some good examples of printing? I would also like to think
that FM provides more control over the printing process and that
you could bypass the print dialog completely. Is that possible?

Thanks in advance,

Todd
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 31 Jul 1994 11:09:55 -1000
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Pete Hinely <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Automatically saving scripts as run-only?

Hi,
  My latest set of AppleScripts for MacPGP now number about 20.  I want
them saved in run-only format when I distribute them, but it is a real
pain to open all the scripts and manually save them as run-only.

Do any of you have a drag-n-drop utility to automatically save other
scripts as run-only?

The script editor does not appear to be scriptable.

Thanks in advance,
peter
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 31 Jul 1994 17:55:41 -0400
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Filemaker Pro - printing
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Todd Hooper" at Aug 1, 94 02:01:30 am

--Todd Hooper wrote:
>
>Does anybody have some good examples of printing? I would also like to think
>that FM provides more control over the printing process and that
>you could bypass the print dialog completely. Is that possible?

    Well, I don't do a lot of printing with FM Pro from AppleScript, but
if I were going to and I wanted to bypass the dialog box I would create
a FM Pro internal script whose only command is Print [no dialog]. Then I
would use a Do Script AppleScript command to call that script.

-Hades
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 1 Aug 1994 10:00:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Basic Questions

Responses to some of the questions of Peter Fleck - SMM
<[e-mail]>:

>The problem is there is no way to tell when the download is done.
>First I tried sending Hang Up during the download, thinking it
>wouldn't activate until the download finished but no such luck. It
>hung up during the download.
>
>So I'm using the Menu Events OSAX to figure out when the Special Menu
>is enabled which means the Hang Up command is available. I tried
>working directly with the Hang Up command menu item but Menu Events
>said it was enabled when it wasn't. The OSAX seems to report the
>status of the Special Menu correctly.

You mean, the Hang Up AppleEvent still works even though the Hang Up menu
command is disabled? That's a nasty inconsistency.

AppleEvents (and AppleScript) are meant to be a high-level way of communicating
with an application. Unfortunately, this means you are at the mercy of the
application designers: if they stuff up the AppleEvent interface in some small
but crucially important way, you end up with major aggro like this.

>I use the Dialog Display OSAX several times and my reading of the docs
>indicates that it should return "Cancel" in the "button returned"
>record. It returns nothing when cancel is clicked. I have to use a Try
>statement and trap for the error -128. Am I missing something.

I believe that the "button returned" structure is only returned for custom
buttons that you specify. The default "OK" and "Cancel" buttons work somewhat
differently, as you found: I think "OK" returns "button returned: 'OK'", but
"Cancel" does indeed returned a cancel error.

>I'm using an idle handler to continue checking the Special Menu. I set
>some variables right before "on idle" for use in the handler. But AS
>says the variables are not defined once the idle handler starts
>running. By setting the variables with a Property statement, they work
>through the whole script. Does the "on idle" sort of start a new
>segment, erasing previous local variables (meaning I need the global
>property statement)?

Variables are assumed local unless declared global. Declarations and statements
which are not explicitly enclosed in any handler are assumed to be part of an
implicit "run" handler.

>set TF_Loc to (choose file with prompt (cont. char)
>                "Please locate your Telefinder User Application." of type
>{"APPL"})
>as text
...
>on idle
>  tell application TF_Loc
...

>When I try to compile this, I get a syntax error: "Expected end of
>line, etc. but found application constant or consideration." Without
>the Hang Up command, this works fine (meaning the "activate" is
>getting through).
>
>Using (within the idle and tell parts):
>
>  tell application "TeleFinder*/User 3.2.6" to Hang up
>
>works but this means I have to know the name of the user's TF copy.
>
>I found a workaround. I substituted "TeleFinder" for TF_Loc in the
>initial Tell statement that follows on idle. AS then figures out (or
>asks the user) where TeleFinder is and remembers from there on. And
>the Hang Up works. But I still want to know why I couldn't use the
>variable to refer to TF

Because then AppleScript doesn't know which dictionary to find the hangup
command in. Remember, AppleScript is a compiled language, it can't leave any
of the source as uninterpreted text. Your workaround is indeed the way God
intended you to use AppleScript: put in an explicit application name, and then
when your script is moved to a different system, AppleScript will take care of
asking the user where their copy of the application is.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
=========================================================================
Date:         Mon, 1 Aug 1994 10:35:00 +1200
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         "Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University, Hamilton,
              NZ" <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: case of a conditional in applescript...

"Brian V. Hughes" <[e-mail]> says:

>    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'd almost kill for a
>decent implimentation of a case statement for AppleScript.

This may not be quite what you had in mind, and the squeamish may want to
avert their eyes...

    script case1
        display dialog "Case 1"
    end script

    script case2
        display dialog "Case 2"
    end script

    script case3
        display dialog "Case 3"
    end script

    set i to 2
    run item i of {case1, case2, case3}

:-)

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: [phone]
Info & Tech Services Division              fax: [phone]
University of Waikato            electric mail: [e-mail]
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
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Date:         Sun, 31 Jul 1994 15:57:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mike Shaff <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Hypercard droplets?

Greetings,

Is there a method for making Hypercard stacks saved as applications into
droplets?

I added the method Open with the parameter itemList to my stack script which is
set to interpret AppleScript:

on Open (itemList)

        -- Handle drop communication

end Open

Saved the stack as an application.  But, lo, the application does not invert
when items are dragged upon it.

Anyone know the lore to accomplish this?

Thanks, I have had many questions answered here before I even knew they were
questions.  Now, that's a user interface.

Michael
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 31 Jul 1994 19:05:32 CDT
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Peter Fleck - SMM <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: HyperCard Droplets?

Following is from HyperTalk 2.2: The Book by Winkler-Kamins-Devoto. Supposed to
allow printing of text files by drag&drop. Haven't tried it but thought it might
help. Good luck.

Watch out for typos! I didn't proof this.

on appleEvent theClass,theID,theSender -- collect text files
-- hold down keys to open standalone
  if the optionKey is down and the commandKey is down [cont]
  and the shiftKey is down then pass appleEvent
  -- get just the name of the sending program
  get the itemDelimiter
  set the itemDelimiter to colon
  put last item of theSender into sendingProgram
  set the itemDelimiter to it
  -- did the event result from dropping a file on me?
  if theClass is "aevt" and theID is "odoc" [cont]
  and sendingProgram is "Finder" then
    -- set up printing properties, which are stored in the stack
    set the printTextFont to card field "Font"
    set the printTextSize to card field "Size"
    -- read and print each file
    lock screen
    lock messages
    set the cursor to watch
    put "Reading text files..."
    request appleEvent data -- this is the file pathname
    put it into filenameList
    repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines of filenameList
      open file (line x of filenameList)
      read from file (line x of filenameList) until end
      close file (line x of filenameList
      print it
    end repeat
    doMenu "Quit HyperCard"
  else pass appleEvent
end appleEvent

Peter Fleck

[Now that I have it all nicely typed, I suppose I should try it.  :-)  ]
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Date:         Sun, 31 Jul 1994 20:45:04 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         David Ray <[e-mail]>
Subject:      Re: Automatically saving scripts as run-only?

>Hi,
>  My latest set of AppleScripts for MacPGP now number about 20.  I want
>them saved in run-only format when I distribute them, but it is a real
>pain to open all the scripts and manually save them as run-only.
>
>Do any of you have a drag-n-drop utility to automatically save other
>scripts as run-only?

Nope, but I have another suggestion - if you invoke the scripts from Script
Menu or OSA Menu instead of Other Menu, you can run the scripts as compiled
scripts rather than stand-alone applications. The scripts will use the heap
space of whatever the front application is.

-Dave

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David Ray                Dream Designs          Music Composition
[e-mail]         PO Box 5631            Interactive Multimedia
510-527-9010             Berkeley CA 94705      Virtual Worlds
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 31 Jul 1994 20:47:18 -0700
Reply-To:     Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
Sender:       Macintosh Scripting Systems <[e-mail]>
From:         Mark Elpers <[e-mail]>
Subject:      File Exists?

Is there an AppleScript Addition that allows me to check is a file exists
at a specified path? I do not have the Scriptable Finder (yet...)

Thank you.

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