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- Subject: comp.lang.python RFD again
- From: Guido.van.Rossum@cwi.nl
-
- I've followed the recent discussion and trimmed the blurb RFD down a bit
- (and added the word "object-oriented" to the blurb).
-
- I don't think it's too early to *try* to create the newsgroup --
- whether we will succeed may depend on how many Python supporters there
- are outside the mailing list.
-
- I'm personally not worried about moderation, and anyway I haven't
- heard from any volunteers for moderation (and I won't volunteer
- myself) so I suggest that we'll continue to ask for one unmoderated
- newsgroup.
-
- My next action will be to post an updated FAQ (which will hint at the
- upcoming RFD) to comp.lang.misc; then finalize the 1.0.0 release and
- put it on the ftp site. I'll also try to get it into
- comp.sources.unix or .misc. And all this before the end of January!
-
- --Guido van Rossum, CWI, Amsterdam <Guido.van.Rossum@cwi.nl>
- URL: <http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Guido.van.Rossum.html>
-
- ======================================================================
-
- These are the steps required (in case you don't know about the
- newsgroup creation process):
-
- First, we need to draw up an RFD (Request For Discussion). This is a
- document that tells what the purpose of the group is, and gives a case
- for its creation. We post this to relevant groups (comp.lang.misc,
- the mailing list, news.groups, etc.) Discussion is held on
- news.groups.
-
- Then, after a few weeks, we run the official CFV (Call For Votes).
- The votes are then collected over a period of weeks. We need 100 more
- yes votes than no votes, and a 2/3 majority, to get the group.
-
- There are some restrictions on the vote taker: [s]he cannot actively
- campaign for/against the group during the vote process. So the main
- benefit to Steve instead of me running the vote is that I will be free
- to campaign for its creation!
-
- The following is our current draft for the RFD.
-
- ======================================================================
-
- Request For Discussion: comp.lang.python
-
-
- Purpose
- -------
-
- The newsgroup will be for discussion on the Python computer language.
- Possible topics include requests for information, general programming,
- development, and bug reports. The group will be unmoderated.
-
-
- What is Python?
- ---------------
-
- Python is a relatively new very-high-level language developed in
- Amsterdam. Python is a simple, object-oriented procedural language,
- with features taken from ABC, Icon, Modula-3, and C/C++.
-
- Its central goal is to provide the best of both worlds: the dynamic
- nature of scripting languages like Perl/TCL/REXX, but also support for
- general programming found in the more traditional languages like Icon,
- C, Modula,...
-
- Python may be FTP'd from the following sites:
-
- ftp.cwi.nl in directory /pub/python (its "home site", also has a FAQ)
- ftp.uu.net in directory /languages/python
- gatekeeper.dec.com in directory /pub/plan/python/cwi
-
-
- Rationale
- ---------
-
- Currently there is a mailing list with over 130 subscribers.
- The activity of this list is high, and to make handling the
- traffic more reasonable, a newsgroup is being proposed. We
- also feel that comp.lang.misc would not be a suitable forum
- for this volume of discussion on a particular language.
-
-
- Charter
- -------
-
- Comp.lang.python is an unmoderated newsgroup which will serve
- as a forum for discussing the Python computer language. The
- group will serve both those who just program in Python and
- those who work on developing the language. Topics that
- may be discussed include:
-
- - announcements of new versions of the language and
- applications written in Python.
-
- - discussion on the internals of the Python language.
-
- - general information about the language.
-
- - discussion on programming in Python.
-
-
- Discussion
- ----------
-
- Any objections to this RFD will be considered and, if determined
- to be appropriate, will be incorporated. The discussion period
- will be for a period of 21 days after which the first CFV will be
- issued.
-