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- Putting your home PC on the Internet: Summary and Compendium
-
- 25 Jan 1991
-
- I'd like to thank all the folks who took the time to respond to my
- questions about how to get the home PC hung on the internet. Here's a
- summary of the responses as I understand them, followed by the
- complete text of all responses so you can draw your own conclusions.
- I regret that this summary is not very comprehensive or authoritative
- (not that netnews ever is) but it does indicate directions to proceed
- in.
-
- There were two questions I asked: 1) how to get assigned an internet
- address and get physically hooked in to the internet, and 2) failing
- this, how to get an e-mail and news feed. I specified that I didn't
- want to discuss software (not that it's not important), just how to
- get physically and administratively hooked up. I also sent a query to
- the group rec.ham-radio.packet asking what people thought of using
- amateur packet radio as the connection to the outside world. These
- responses are also attached below.
-
- 0. Background information
-
- People often confuse the terms "internet address" and "domain name"
- (probably because e-mail is generally addressed to a domain name, not
- an internet address). An internet address is a 32-bit number that is
- assigned to each node on the internet. It's usually written in four
- bytes, for instance the address of max.berkeley.edu is 128.32.178.63.
- A domain name is a name like max.berkeley.edu. You don't have to be
- an internet node to get an official domain name, but if you aren't
- one, you have to tell them the name of an internet node that will take
- care of forwarding your mail off the internet. To get more info about
- registering a domain name in the "us" domain, ftp to nic.ddn.mil and
- get netinfo:us-domain.txt. There is no registration fee.
-
- Note that although both the domain name system and the internet
- addressing are heirarchical, they have nothing to do with each other.
- The internet address heirarchy is related to physical connection, but
- the domain name heirarchy is administrative.
-
- 1. Getting an internet address
-
- A basic problem with getting on the internet is that the US gov't,
- which is footing the bill for most of the internet, doesn't want
- anyone on there unless some gov't agency will vouch that you are doing
- research or other work for them. So if you do contract work for Uncle
- Sam in your spare time, you might get your patron agency to back you.
- The relevant document is netinfo:internet-number-template.txt on
- nic.ddn.mil. I don't think there's any fee, and you get 256 internet
- addresses to do with as you please.
-
- If, however, you are not a budding Beltway Bandit, it becomes a matter
- of who you know. Suppose you have buddies at the local university or
- bomb plant. They might be willing and able to lend you an address out
- of their pool. Strictly speaking, they aren't supposed to do this
- unless you are using the net for uses related to working for them, but
- it's been known to happen anyhow.
-
- Which of these options you select also affects the way you can hook
- in, covered next.
-
- 2. Physical connections
-
- The expensive way of getting connected is to rent a phone line from
- you to some local organization, and pay them to deal with the other
- end. Somebody sent a copy of recent NEARnet rates. A small operation
- could get hooked up at 9600 baud for a $10,750 installation charge,
- and $7000 per year exclusive of leased line charges. The cost of the
- leased line obviously depends on where you are, but according to
- UUNET's AlterNet blurb, they cost $3000 per year and up. NEARnet
- serves New England, I suppose there are similar organizations in other
- parts of the country but I don't know who they are.
-
- UUNET runs AlterNet (just mentioned) and they estimate the following
- charges for a 9600 baud connection. Initial charge is $2750, and
- annual fee of $3000 exclusive of phone company charges. They mention
- that they also support dial-up connections, which might save a bundle
- on phone charges. Alternet has a few hubs spaced around the country
- and a couple in Europe. To get info on AlterNet, send mail to
- info@uunet.uu.net.
-
- Several respondents also mentioned PSI. I have requested info from
- them, but don't have it yet.
-
- The above choices are not only a bit expensive, they also will not get
- you on the Internet unless you have the aformentioned government
- sponsorship. If you have a friend with a hooked up network, you can
- try to talk him into running a SLIP protocol connection over a dial-up
- modem to one of his machines. As I mentioned above, this is not
- strictly on the up-and-up, but is enormously cheaper.
-
- Another possibility that occurred to me was to make the outside
- connection via amateur packet radio. I don't know anything about
- packet radio myself, but the replies I got indicated the following.
- It's not legal to use amateur radio for any business purposes.
- Nothing is supposed to be transmitted over amateur radio unless it's
- been read by someone with a license. And there's some question about
- the legality of unattended operation. Nonetheless, it seems some hams
- are doing stuff like this. I don't have any idea what kind of
- equipment costs are involved.
-
- 3. How about just mail and news?
-
- The other option is to forget the internet and just get a news and
- mail feed via UUCP. Basicly you buy a modem and locate someone who
- already has mail and news who will let you call in and grab them.
- Possible feeds are UUNET (send mail to info@uunet.uu.net) or many
- nixpub sites (listed in a period posting in pubnet.nixpub and
- comp.misc) and probably thousands of others. UUNET apparently costs
- something like $400 a year plus phone charges; some of sites in the
- nixpub list are free. Someone suggested to look in comp.mail.maps to
- find invitations for UUCP feeds. Fidonet and PSI are also mentioned
- as possible feeds.
-
- One thing to bear in mind is that if you want a registered domain
- name, you must have a internet site that agrees to forward your mail.
- I believe UUNET and PSI take care of this for you, but if you just
- pick someone out of comp.mail.maps to feed you, you will have to hunt
- down your internet site separately. I understand that Fidonet sites
- all have registered domain names, albiet peculiar looking ones.
-
- 4. Other things to try
-
- One of the responses below suggests sending a query to
- hostmaster@nic.ddn.mil. I have, but the reply just told me how to
- register a domain name in the US domain. I haven't pursued this
- further.
-
- As mentioned above, info on UUNET can be gotten by sending your US
- mail address (no kidding!) to info@uunet.uu.net. I don't have this
- packet yet, so I can't tell you what's in it. Also, some info can be
- gotten by anon FTP from uunet.uu.net in the directory uunet-info.
-
- Info on PSI is reportedly available from info@psi.com.
-
- I don't know where to find info about fidonet.
-
- - Dave Cottingham
- dc@caveat.berkeley.edu
-
- That's the summary, now here's all the stuff I got:
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: MX%"wjb@cogsci.cog.jhu.edu" 15-JAN-1991 10:03:00.85
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:wjb@cogsci.cog.jhu.edu>
- Received: from cogsci.cog.jhu.edu by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 15 Jan
- 1991 10:02:54 PST
- Received: by cogsci.cog.jhu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA00400; Tue, 15 Jan 91
- 13:06:25 EST
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 13:06:25 EST
- From: wjb@cogsci.cog.jhu.edu (William J. Bogstad)
- Message-ID: <9101151806.AA00400@cogsci.cog.jhu.edu>
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
- Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.os.minix,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.unix.xenix.sco
- In-Reply-To: <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu>
- Organization: JHU Cognitive Science Center, Baltimore, MD
- X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "CC" header.
- CC:
-
- In article <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu> you write:
- >It sure would be great if my PC at home were on the internet. I'm
- >sure this must be possible, since there are plenty of smallish
- >businesses on the internet. However, a perusal of the documents at
- >nic.ddn.mil shows only how to launch a new network, which requires
- >divine intervention from a government agency, and is definitely of a
- >grander scale than what I have in mind.
-
- There should have been information there about getting an address.
- You might try contacting the postmaster at the large Ohio State USENET
- site. (Don't remember the name off hand.) I've seen messsage from him in
- the past about providing mail/news help to people and he should point you in
- the right direction. You might also look into CSNET, UUNET, and PSINET??
- all of which have TCP/IP networks and may have dial-up TCP/IP capability.
- (Which is probably what you want. Having a dedicated line to your home
- could get expensive.) Also look into the SLIP and/or PPP protocols which
- are available for the PC and are used to implement TCP/IP over dial-up lines.
- If you have good connections at local Internet sites, you might be able to
- get somebody to assign you an address there and use dial-up connections.
-
- >
- >I'm hoping that someone out there who's done this can tell me how to
- >go about getting assigned an internet address, and what kind of
- >physical connection they use and to where, and just how massive a
- >financial outlay is required. (Software is another issue, but I was
- >going to worry about that later.)
-
- A high speed modem may be all you need as far as additional
- hardware. (9600 or 19200 baud) Telebit would probably be a good choice.
-
- >...
- >And finally, if there is a more appropriate place to post this,
- >please let me know. (Intensive scrutiny of the list of active
- >newgorups turned up none which really seemed right, but these
- >seemed slightly plausible.)
-
- The mail groups or tcp-ip groups might have been better. You might
- try finding the archives for the tcp-ip groups. They should have
- information.
-
- Good Luck,
- Bill Bogstad
-
- From: MX%"<pacolley@violet.waterloo.edu>" 15-JAN-1991 12:20:40.11
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:pacolley@violet.waterloo.edu>
- Received: from violet.waterloo.edu by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 15 Jan
- 1991 12:20:16 PST
- Received: by violet.waterloo.edu id <AA00170>; Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:24:27 EST
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:24:27 EST
- From: Paul Colley <pacolley@violet.waterloo.edu>
- Message-ID: <9101152024.AA00170@violet.waterloo.edu>
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
- Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.os.minix,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.unix.xenix.sco
- In-Reply-To: <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu>
- Organization: University of Waterloo
- X-MX-Warning: Warning -- Invalid "CC" header.
- CC:
-
- In article <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu> you write:
-
- >It sure would be great if my PC at home were on the internet.
-
- > just how massive a
- >financial outlay is required.
-
- $35.00 one-time fee for an internet-style mail address through UUnet.
-
- Actual internet-style connection is substantially more ($800/month? I
- think I remember for Alternet, don't have it in front of me).
-
- Anyways, UUnet does both (the internet stuff from uunet is called "Alternet").
-
- Write info@uunet.uu.net for details.
-
- >mail via uucp. I know one way to do this, which is to get in contact
- >with one of the sites on the NIXPUB list. If anybody knows a better
- >way, I'd like to hear about it.
-
- Post to a *.uucp group distributed near you & also Email
- postmaster@"local sites" and ask for someone who is willing
- to give you a feed. To find local sites, look in the UUCP maps
- (either on your favourite machine, or in the newsgroup comp.mail.maps).
- The UUCP map for some sites lists an invitation for new UUCP mail
- or news feeds; most sites are willing to give a mail feed if you
- ask nicely, but news is much harder to come by. Almost impossible
- to come by if you aren't running a high-speed modem. But, again,
- uunet will give you a feed if all else fails.
-
- Also, again, uunet does this---$35.00/month + $2.00/hour or so.
-
- The information I have about Alternet is on paper, so you're out of luck;
- ask uunet to send you a copy (that's what I did).
-
- I appended to the bottom of this message the info from uunet on registering
- a domain style address.
-
- Have fun.
-
- Probably, if you're associated with a University, you can do an internet
- connection for free to them; look for information on TCP/IP and SLIP
- (Internet Protocol, Serial Line Internet Protocol (i.e., for
- modems), ...I think that's what these acronyms stand for)
-
- Disclaimer: I'm a UUCP only site, so I haven't actually done any of this;
- use this info at your own risk, I'm not associated with the University,
- the government, UUnet, or anyone else mentioned in this, etc, etc, ...
-
- - Paul Colley
- pacolley@violet.waterloo.edu
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >From operator@uunet.UU.NET Thu Jan 10 16:37:03 1991
- Received: from uunet.UU.NET by violet.waterloo.edu with SMTP
- id <AA24620>; Thu, 10 Jan 91 16:37:03 EST
- Received: by uunet.UU.NET (5.61/1.14)
- id AA23825; Thu, 10 Jan 91 16:36:32 -0500
- From: operator@uunet.UU.NET (UUNET Postmaster)
- Message-Id: <9101102136.AA23825@uunet.UU.NET>
- Subject: Re: Registering site?
- To: pacolley@violet (Paul Colley)
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 91 16:36:31 EST
- In-Reply-To: <9101101531.AA14426@violet.waterloo.edu>; from "Paul Colley" at Jan 10, 91 10:31 am
- X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL10]
- Status: RO
-
-
- Hello,
-
- >
- > The README in comp.mail.maps seems to suggest that it's better to
- > register in the "UUCP Zone", whatever that is, and gives this
- > address...
- >
-
- Please find below some info regarding domain registration and application form
- for registering.
-
-
- BACKGROUND:
-
- A "zone" is a registry of domains kept by a particular organization. A
- zone registry is "authoritative", that is, the master copy of the
- registry is kept by the zone organization, and this copy is, by
- definition, always up-to-date. Copies of this registry may be
- distributed to other places and kept in caches, but these caches are
- not authoritative because they may be out of date. An authoritative
- answer is required for certain decisions, such as "this mail cannot be
- delivered because there is no such domain", or "the name you have
- chosen is available and is now assigned uniquely to you."
-
- You need a registered domain name to use software (including smail)
- which supports domain addresses. This name must be unique in the
- world, and must be registered with the appropriate registry. You also
- need to be in a domain that has a forwarder from the INternet.
-
- Currently, the domain tree in the USA has three major top level
- domains: COM for companies, EDU for educational institutions, and GOV
- for government entities. Three other top level names exist: MIL, NET,
- ORG, but are somewhat specialized. For the most part, countries other
- than the USA are using the ISO 3166 2 letter abbreviation for their
- country as a top level.
-
- The second level is generally the name of the organization, using the
- shortest possible abbreviation that is clear and unique, thus ATT, DEC,
- IBM, HP, etc. The choice of exact name is up to the organization, and
- longer names, such as Berkeley.EDU or Tektronix.COM are perfectly
- acceptable. Just remember that people must type the name, as well as
- see it displayed. Only the second level domain name need be registered.
-
- Not all countries use the second level for the organization. In
- particular, Australia and Britain have set up second level domains
- OZ.AU and AC.UK for their academic communities, and put the
- organization at the third level.
-
- The third and subsequent levels, if used, should be organizational
- units within the organization. Try to keep the number of levels to a
- minimum, since people have to type the names. More than four total
- levels (country, org, org-unit1, and org-unit2) should rarely be
- needed. The actual organizational units to be used are up to you, for
- example, they might be departments, or they might be machine names.
- You do not need to register levels beneath the second level.
-
- CHOSING NAMES:
-
- Domain names are case independent. uucpnames MUST be all lower case.
-
- "vax", "u3b20", and the like are terrible host names, because sooner or
- later you'll have more than one vax, or more than one 3b20, and the
- names will be confusing. We recommend organizational names, with any
- subdomains based on the department or project the machine is used for.
- We highly discourage use of a nonorganizational uucpname as the second
- level domain name. Of course, in order to keep the names reasonably
- short and to avoid duplicating names in the heirarchy, some compromise
- will be needed. For example, csvax.CS.UND.EDU is redundant, but
- RISC.CS.UND.EDU might be a good name for the computer used by the RISC
- project in the CS department.
-
- Please note that you should support both RFC 976 and the documents it
- refers to, in particular RFC 822 and RFC 920. This means, for
- example:
-
- (a) The name "postmaster" on all machines visible to the outside
- should be forwarded to the technical contact. This can be
- easily done with an alias in /usr/lib/aliases, if your site
- runs sendmail or smail release 2.0 or beyond.
-
- (b) Your machine should not alter valid RFC 822 headers, such as
- From:, of mail it generates or forwards. Many machines running
- sendmail have a bug which adds uucpname! to the front of such
- addresses. Installing smail will fix the bug, because mail
- passed through the machine is not passed through sendmail.
- We hope to make a fix to sendmail available, also, at a
- later date.
-
- COSTS:
-
- UUNET charges a one time fee of $35 for processing the forms and
- setting up the servers. This fee does NOT include a connection to the
- uunet computer. There is no registration charge for UUNET customers.
-
- Payment should be sent to:
-
- UUNET Communications Services
- 3110 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 570
- Falls Church, VA 22042
- +1 703 876 5050
- uunet!domain-request
-
- Please indicate the name of your domain and the uucp name of your
- gateway machine on your payment so that we may properly credit you.
- Registration can not be completed until payment is received (except for
- UUNET subscribers).
-
- Information about UUNET's other services can be obtained by sending
- your postal address to uunet!info
-
-
- IMPLEMENTATION DETAILS:
-
- We will notify you via mail to "postmaster" in your domain when your
- domain is registered. Please make sure such an address exists in your
- domain. You can NOT use your domain name in outgoing mail until
- registration is completed, although it is OK to install smail (using
- the host.UUCP domain) ahead of time. We do recommend that you set up
- to accept incoming mail for your domain name ahead of time, if this is
- convenient.
-
- Several steps are needed before your registration is complete. Some of
- these steps are approval by the NIC, setting up the nameservers, and
- setting up the forwarder. Seeing your domain published in the UUCP map
- is not, by itself, sufficient (or necessary) for the use of your domain
- name.
-
- FORWARDERS:
-
- A forwarder is a kind of mail bridge host between the Internet
- (formerly called the ARPANET) and UUCP. The nameserver structure
- directs all Internet mail for your domain to the forwarder, and the
- forwarder passes the mail from Internet into UUCP. Forwarders can also
- forward your mail from UUCP to Internet, but it is not strictly
- necessary to use your forwarder for this, since mail to any of the
- published UUCP->Internet gateways can do this. If you use a forwarder
- other than uunet please have the postmaster or a system administrator
- at the forwarder send uunet a message granting permission to use that
- system as a forwarder.
-
- To register your domain, you need to have a forwarder. If you know of
- an Internet site (such as uunet) that is willing to be a forwarder for
- your domain, let us know. As a last resort, uunet can be a forwarder
- for you even if you are not directly connected. HOWEVER, we require
- that you have the postmaster or system administrator at the site that
- is directly connected to uunet and will route your mail send uunet a
- message of permission before we start forwarding mail through them.
-
-
- THE APPLICATION:
-
- To register your domain with the NIC, we need to send in the following
- form. Questions 4,7,8 and 9 are already answered for you. Do not
- change them.
-
- Answer questions 0,1,2,3,5,6 and 10 and return THE ENTIRE FORM to
- uunet!domain-request. PLEASE do not just return the questions you
- answer and do not reformat the application. It creates extra work for
- us, as we have to copy your answers back onto the form we originally
- sent you, and will delay registration.
-
-
- [ THE FORM STARTS HERE. ]
-
- (0a) Specify what machine you want to be your forwarder. If you are
- directly connected to uunet, uunet can be your forwarder. If
- you are not directly connected, then you need to find some other
- site to be your forwarder OR get the permission of a site that
- IS directly connected to uunet to allow your arpanet mail to be
- forwarded through them. We must receive the permission of the
- uunet site or the other forwarder directly from that forwarder.
-
- Who will be your forwarder:
-
- For Example: uunet.uu.net
-
-
- (0b) Specify the uucpname registered in the UUCP maps of the system
- which will act as the mail gateway for your domain. This is
- optional, but highly recommended, for domains which do not use
- uunet.uu.net as forwarder. UUNET subscribers using uunet.uu.net
- as forwarder may simply give the name of the account.
-
- What is the name of your mail gateway:
-
-
- [ NETINFO:DOMAIN-TEMPLATE.TXT ] [ 10/90 DM ]
-
- To establish a domain, the following information must be sent to
- the NIC Domain Registrar (HOSTMASTER@NIC.DDN.MIL). Questions
- may be addressed to the NIC Hostmaster by electronic mail at the
- above address, or by phone at (415) 859-3695 or (800) 235-3155.
-
- NOTE: The key people must have electronic mailboxes and NIC
- "handles," unique NIC database identifiers. If you have access to
- "WHOIS", please check to see if you are registered and if so, make
- sure the information is current. Include only your handle and any
- changes (if any) that need to be made in your entry. If you do not
- have access to "WHOIS", please provide all the information indicated
- and a NIC handle will be assigned.
-
- (1) The name of the top-level domain to join
- (EDU, COM, MIL, GOV, NET, ORG).
-
- 1. Top-level domain:
-
-
- (2) The name of the domain (up to 12 characters). This is the name
- that will be used in tables and lists associating the domain with the
- domain server addresses. [While, from a technical standpoint, domain
- names can be quite long we recommend the use of shorter, more user-
- friendly names.]
-
- 2. Complete Domain Name:
-
-
- (3) The name and address of the organization establishing the domain.
-
- 3a. Organization name:
-
-
- 3b. Organization address:
-
-
-
- (4) The date you expect the domain to be fully operational.
-
- 4. Date operational: Now operational.
-
-
-
- (5) The NIC handle of the administrative head of the organization --
- or this person's name, mailing address, phone number, organization,
- and network mailbox. This is the contact point for administrative
- and policy questions about the domain. In the case of a research
- project, this should be the principal investigator.
-
- NOTE: Both the Administrative and the Technical/Zone contact of a
- domain MUST have a network mailbox, even if the mailbox is to be
- within the proposed domain.
-
-
- Administrative Contact
-
- 5a. NIC Handle (if known) :
- 5b. Name (Last, First) :
- 5c. Organization:
- 5d. Mail Address:
-
- 5e. Phone Number:
- 5f. Net Mailbox :
-
-
- (6) The NIC handle of the technical contact for the domain -- or
- the person's name, mailing address, phone number, organization,
- and network mailbox. This is the contact point for
- problems concerning the domain or zone, as well as for updating
- information about the domain or zone.
-
- Technical and Zone Contact
-
- 6a. NIC Handle (if known):
- 6b. Name (Last, First) :
- 6c. Organization:
- 6d. Mail Address:
-
- 6e. Phone Number:
- 6f. Net Mailbox :
-
-
- (7) Domains must provide at least two independent servers that
- provide the domain service for translating names to addresses
- for hosts in this domain.
-
- * If you are applying for a domain and a network number assignment
- simultaneously and a host on your proposed network will be used
- as a server for the domain, you must wait until you receive your
- network number assigment and have given the server(s) a netaddress
- before sending in the domain application. Sending in the domain
- application without complete information in Sections 7 and 8 of
- this template will result in the delay of the domain registration.
-
- Also, establishing the servers in physically separate locations
- and on different PSNs and/or networks is strongly recommended.
-
- NOTE: All new hosts acting as servers will appear in the DNS root
- servers but will not apppear in the HOSTS.TXT file
- unless otherwise requested.
-
- Primary Server: HOSTNAME, NETADDRESS, HARDWARE, SOFTWARE
-
- 7a. Primary Server Hostname: uunet.UU.NET
- 7b. Primary Server Netaddress: 192.48.96.2
- 7c. Primary Server Hardware: SEQUENT-S81
- 7d. Primary Server Software: UNIX
-
-
- (8) The Secondary server information.
-
- 8a. Secondary Server Hostname: seismo.CSS.GOV
- 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress: 192.12.141.25
- 8c. Secondary Server Hardware: SUN-3/160
- 8d. Secondary Server Software: UNIX
-
- 8a. Secondary Server Hostname: cerberus.pa.dec.com
- 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress: 16.1.0.3
- 8c. Secondary Server Hardware: VAX
- 8d. Secondary Server Software: UNIX
-
-
- (9) If any currently registered hosts will be renamed into the new
- domain, please specify old hostname, netaddress, and new hostname.
-
- For example:
-
- BAR-FOO2.XYZ.COM (26.8.0.193) -> FOO2.BAR.COM
- BAR-FOO3.XYZ.COM (192.7.3.193) -> FOO3.BAR.COM
- BAR-FOO4.ARPA (34.6.0.193) -> FOO4.BAR.COM
-
- NOTE: Hostname changes to MILNET hosts must be approved by the
- MILNET Manager - MILNETMGR@DDN-CONUS.DDN.MIL.
-
-
- (10) Please describe your organization briefly.
-
- For example: Our Corporation is a consulting
- organization of people working with UNIX and the C language in an
- electronic networking environment. It sponsors two technical
- conferences annually and distributes a bimonthly newsletter.
-
-
- PLEASE ALLOW AT LEAST 30 WORKING DAYS FOR PROCESSING THIS APPLICATION
-
- [ THE FORM ENDS HERE. ]
-
-
- For further information contact the DDN/INTERNET Network Information
- Center (NIC):
-
- Via electronic mail: HOSTMASTER@NIC.DDN.MIL
- Via telephone: (800) 235-3155
- Via postal mail: SRI International
- DDN Network Information Center
- 333 Ravenswood Avenue
- EJ286
- Menlo Park, CA 94025
-
-
-
- RECOMMENDED READING (available from the NIC)
-
- Feinler, E.J.; Jacobsen, O.J.; Stahl, M.K.; Ward, C.A., eds. DDN
- Protocol Handbook: Menlo Park, CA: SRI International, DDN Network
- Information Center; 1985 December; NIC 50004 and NIC 50005 and NIC
- 50006. 2749 p.
-
- Garcia-Luna-Aceves, J.J.; Stahl, M.K.; Ward, C.A., eds. Internet
- Protocol Handbook: The Domain Name System (DNS) Handbook. Menlo Park,
- CA: SRI International, Network Information Systems Center; 1989
- August; 219 p. AD A214 698.
-
- Postel, J.B.; Reynolds, J.K. Domain Requirements. Marina del Rey, CA:
- University of Southern California, Information Sciences Inst.; 1984
- October; RFC 920. 14 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL RFC:RFC920.TXT).
-
- Harrenstien, K.; Stahl, M.K.; Feinler, E.J. DoD Internet Host Table
- Specification. Menlo Park, CA: SRI International, DDN Network
- Information Center; 1985 October; RFC 952. 6 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL
- RFC:RFC952.TXT). Obsoletes: RFC 810
-
- Harrenstien, K.; Stahl, M.K.; Feinler, E.J. Hostname Server. Menlo
- Park, CA: SRI International, DDN Network Information Center; 1985
- October; RFC 953. 5 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL RFC:RFC953.TXT).
- Obsoletes: RFC 811
-
- Partridge, C. Mail Routing and the Domain System. Cambridge, MA: BBN
- Labs., Inc.; 1986 January; RFC 974. 7 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL
- RFC:RFC974.TXT).
-
- Lazear, W.D. MILNET Name Domain Transition. McLean, VA: MITRE Corp.;
- 1987 November; RFC 1031. 10 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL RFC:RFC1031.TXT).
-
- Stahl, M.K. Domain Administrators Guide. Menlo Park, CA: SRI
- International, DDN Network Information Center; 1987 November; RFC
- 1032. 14 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL RFC:RFC1032.TXT).
-
- Lottor, M. Domain Administrators Operations Guide. Menlo Park, CA:
- SRI International, DDN Network Information Center; 1987 November; RFC
- 1033. 22 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL RFC:RFC1033.TXT).
-
- Mockapetris, P. Domain Names - Concepts and Facilities. Marina del
- Rey, CA: University of Southern California, Information Sciences
- Inst.; 1987 November; RFC 1034. 55 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL
- RFC:RFC1034.TXT). Updated-by: RFC 1101
- Obsoletes: RFC 973; RFC 882; RFC 883
-
- Mockapetris, P. Domain names - Implementation and Specification.
- Marina del Rey, CA: University of Southern California, Information
- Sciences Inst.; 1987 November; RFC 1035. 55 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL
- RFC:RFC1035.TXT). Updated-by: RFC 1101
- Obsoletes: RFC 973; RFC 882; RFC 883
-
- Mockapetris, P. DNS Encoding of Network Names and Other Types. Marina
- del Rey, CA: University of Southern California, Information Sciences
- Inst.; 1989 April; RFC 1101. 14 p. (NIC.DDN.MIL RFC:RFC1101.TXT).
- Updates: RFC 1034; RFC 1035
-
-
- -----
- postmaster@uunet.uu.net (I.C)
-
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- From: MX%"sblair@upurbmw.dell.com" 15-JAN-1991 12:36:09.47
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:uudell!upurbmw.dell.com!sblair@cs.utexas.edu>
- Received: from cs.utexas.edu by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 15 Jan 1991
- 12:36:00 PST
- Posted-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:02:55 CST
- Received: from uudell by cs.utexas.edu (5.64/1.93) via UUCP id AA24489; Tue, 15
- Jan 91 14:40:29 -0600
- Received: from upurbmw by uudell.dell.com (5.61/smail2.5b/06-30-87) id AA19766;
- Tue, 15 Jan 91 14:25:48 -0600
- Received: by upurbmw.dell.com. (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03063; Tue, 15 Jan 91
- 15:02:55 CST
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:02:55 CST
- From: sblair@upurbmw.dell.com (Steve Blair)
- Message-ID: <9101152102.AA03063@upurbmw.dell.com.>
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu, support@uudell
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- [not a marketing person, or marketing hype included( ;> )]
-
- You may well want to consider purchasing DELL's SYS V.4,
- as it has SLIP built *into* it. Then you could SLIP into
- *.berkeley.edu(I know of several hosts there) that allow
- SLIP access.
-
- This would be the *easiest* way to do it. Just purchase
- the s/w, &/or a machine(small hype(!!) from us, and then
- you'd be on the 'net.
-
- Of course, doing this would also allow things like ftp,
- and etc...
-
- For more information on DELL's SYS V.4 UNIX, drop a line to
-
- info@uudell.dell.com
-
- regards,
-
- steve blair UNIX DIVISION
- sblair@upurbmw.dell.com
-
- From: MX%"wood@acf4.NYU.EDU" 15-JAN-1991 12:48:39.45
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:wood@acf4.NYU.EDU>
- Received: from acf4.NYU.EDU by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 15 Jan 1991
- 12:48:32 PST
- Received: by acf4.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA16815; Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:53:08 -0500
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:53:08 -0500
- From: wood@acf4.NYU.EDU (David Wood)
- Message-ID: <9101152053.AA16815@acf4.NYU.EDU>
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu (Dave Cottingham)
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
- Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.os.minix,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.unix.xenix.sco
- In-Reply-To: article <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu> of 15 Jan 91 12:03 EST
-
-
- Since I 'work' at NYU, it would be acceptable to go and
- have a talk with the network manager for NYU. If you are
- connected with UC Berkeley, you might look for the net
- manager there.
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- David Wood wood@david.ultra.nyu.edu
- New York University ...!uunet!theway!lab!wood
- 212-998-3363
- __o
- -\<, "Brain. Brain. What is brain?"
- O' O Kara the Eymorg, "Spock's Brain", Stardate 5432.3
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: MX%"rfarris@rfengr.com" 15-JAN-1991 20:11:33.78
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:serene!rfarris@UCSD.EDU>
- Received: from ucsd.edu by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 15 Jan 1991
- 20:11:26 PST
- Received: from serene.UUCP by ucsd.edu; id AA18054 sendmail 5.64/UCSD-2.1-sun
- via UUCP Tue, 15 Jan 91 20:10:38 -0800
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
- Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.os.minix,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.unix.xenix.sco
- In-Reply-To: <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu>
- Organization: RF Engineering, Del Mar, California
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 20:08:26 PST
- From: rfarris@rfengr.com (Rick Farris)
- Message-ID: <9101152008.aa17159@serene.rfengr.com>
-
- In article <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu> you write:
-
- > I'm hoping that someone out there who's done this can tell
- > me how to go about getting assigned an internet address, and
- > what kind of physical connection they use and to where, and
- > just how massive a financial outlay is required.
-
- I have an Internet address, but I haven't taken the next
- step onto the Internet. PSI will give you a dial-up slip
- connection for (I think) $250/month. The only equipment you
- need is a Telebit modem. The drawback is that if you're not
- in a "gateway" city, the long distance phone bills will kill
- you. (I'm not -- the closest is LA, a $20/hr bill)
-
- I believe the next step up is a dedicated line (again to
- either PSI or uunet's Alternet service) and I think those
- costs are in the ~$2500/month range. Plus an X.25 interface
- which is not cheap.
-
- I'd be interested in a summary of whatever you find out.
-
- > If this turns out to be impossible, I figure I'll settle for
- > news and mail via uucp. I know one way to do this, which is
- > to get in contact with one of the sites on the NIXPUB list.
- > If anybody knows a better way, I'd like to hear about it.
-
- That's about how it's done. Actually, if you're in
- Berkeley, I'd give the postmaster at UCB (look in the maps)
- a voice call and ask for mail connections. Since mail
- doesn't generate a lot of traffic, he'll probably be happy
- to accomodate you. While you're on the phone, ask him if he
- knows where you can get a news feed. He may be willing to
- feed you, or if not, he may know someone he feeds that will
- feed you.
-
- As a last resort, get "Reach Out California" and call me for
- news. (2 hrs a day for a full feed.)
-
- Oh, and don't forget uunet. $35/month plus connect time.
-
-
- --
- Rick Farris RF Engineering POB M Del Mar, CA 92014 voice (619) 259-6793
- rfarris@rfengr.com ...!ucsd!serene!rfarris serenity bbs 259-7757
-
-
-
- From: MX%"wolf@grasp2.univ-lyon1.fr" 15-JAN-1991 23:06:08.70
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:wolf@grasp2.univ-lyon1.fr>
- Received: from grasp2.univ-lyon1.fr by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Tue, 15 Jan
- 1991 23:06:01 PST
- Received: by grasp2.univ-lyon1.fr (AIX 1.3/4.03) id AA03954; Wed, 16 Jan 91
- 08:11:19 +0100
- From: wolf@grasp2.univ-lyon1.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel)
- Message-ID: <9101160711.AA03954@grasp2.univ-lyon1.fr>
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu
- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 91 8:11:18 MET
- In-Reply-To: <9101152241.AA11259@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr>; from "Dave Cottingham"
- at Jan 15, 91 5:03 pm
- X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
-
- In his message, Dave Cottingham said:
- |It sure would be great if my PC at home were on the internet. [...]
-
- I see 2 possibilities for you: the first as you said is to get your
- own attachment, but this will be very expensive, and I don't think
- that's interesting for just one or 2 machines.
-
- What would be more interesting is that your node get an attribution
- from an existing subnetwork you can call by phone. That would cost
- you just the negotiation of an attribution is this subnet, without
- having to bother about an IP domain.
-
- Hope this help.
-
- --
- Christophe Wolfhugel | Email: wolf@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr
- INSA Lyon - Departement Informatique | Fax: (+33) 72 44 08 00
- 69621 Villeurbanne Cedex, France | (Attn-To: Wolfhugel - C 210)
-
- Disclaimer: these are my own opinions, not my employer's.
-
- From: MX%"ames!claris!portal!cup.portal.com!dbell@cad.Berkeley.EDU" 16-JAN-1991 01:49:41.27
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:ames!claris!portal!cup.portal.com!dbell@cad.Berkeley.EDU>
- Received: from cad.Berkeley.EDU by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 16 Jan 1991
- 01:49:33 PST
- Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by cad.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.42) id AA24274;
- Wed, 16 Jan 91 01:53:32 -0800
- From: ames!claris!portal!cup.portal.com!dbell@cad.Berkeley.EDU
- Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.64/1.2); Wed, 16 Jan 91 01:54:00 -0800
- Received: by claris.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA22268; Wed, 16 Jan 91 01:06:37 PST
- Received: by portal.unix.portal.com (1.90) id AA00579; Tue, 15 Jan 91 22:42:57
- PST
- Received: by hobo.corp.portal.com (4.0/4.0.3 1.6) id AA02662; Tue, 15 Jan 91
- 22:42:57 PST
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu (Dave Cottingham)
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
- Lines: 19
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 22:42:56 PST
- Message-ID: <9101152242.3.5187@cup.portal.com>
- X-Origin: The Portal System (TM)
-
- Dave, as I understand it, you have to talk some site into
- giving you a feed. This entails a modem line in, lots of mass storage,
- (you DID want *everything*, didn't you?), and pretty high fees,
- usually based on the traffic, over which you have litle control.
-
- Your other choice, that of getting mail and news via uucp, is
- a lot easier and cheaper. I use Portal Communications, in
- Cupertino (South Bay). For $10 per month, we get unlimited
- use of a large system of local BBs, Usenet email, and news.
- They have a fairly sophisticated news reader interface, and
- archive many groups for quite long periods. I know this is
- a toll call for you, but you might try it out for a few months,
- and also look for a similar service in the North or East Bay.
-
- They can be reached in Cupertino at (408) 973-9111 by voice,
- or log in at (408) 725-0561 or 725-1930 for info online.
- (1200 or 2400 bps, 8,N,1)
-
- Dave dbell@cup.portal.com
-
- From: MX%"<warren@PWS.BULL.COM>" 16-JAN-1991 09:25:43.28
- To: DC
- CC:
- Subj: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
-
- Return-Path: <@MAX.BERKELEY.EDU:warren@PWS.BULL.COM>
- Received: from SLUG.PWS.BULL.COM by MAX.BERKELEY.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 16 Jan
- 1991 09:25:35 PST
- Received: by SLUG.PWS.BULL.COM (vers 4.1) for dc@max.berkeley.edu (from
- warren@PWS.BULL.COM (Warren J. Lavallee)) id
- <AA16343@SLUG.PWS.BULL.COM>; Wed, 16 Jan 91 12:26:52 EST
- Message-ID: <9101161726.AA16343@SLUG.PWS.BULL.COM>
- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 91 12:26:52 EST
- From: warren@PWS.BULL.COM (Warren J. Lavallee)
- Reply-To: <warren@PWS.BULL.COM>
- To: dc@max.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Re: Q: how to make home PC an internet node?
- Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.os.minix,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.unix.xenix.sco
- References: <00942BD0.3790B740@max.berkeley.edu>
-
- In comp.unix.xenix.sco you write:
- >I'm hoping that someone out there who's done this can tell me how to
- >go about getting assigned an internet address, and what kind of
- >physical connection they use and to where, and just how massive a
- >financial outlay is required. (Software is another issue, but I was
- >going to worry about that later.)
-
-
- Here's how I'd do it. BIG BUCKS... NEARnet is only New England though,
- you'd have to find your local network service provider.
-
- NEARnet FEE SCHEDULE
- January 1, 1990
- Annual Membership Dues
-
- Member Class Type Annual Revenue/Budget Dues Amount
- University/ Small <$50M $ 1,000
- Non-Profit Medium $50-200M $ 2,500
- Large $200-500M $ 5,000
- Very Large >$500M $ 7,500
-
- Industry/ Entrepreneurial <$10M $ 1,000
- Government Small $10-50M $ 5,000
- Medium $50-200M $10,000
- Large $200M-1B $15,000
- Very Large >$1B $20,000
-
- Annual Service Fees (These do not include leased line costs.)
- Connection Data Rate Service Fee
- 9.6Kb/s $ 6,000
- 56Kb/s $ 9,000
- 500Kb/s $15,000
- T1 (1.54Mb/s) $24,000
- 10 Mb/s microwave $36,000
-
- Annual Leased Line Costs
-
- NEARnet will provide purchasing services for leased telephone lines for
- member organizations. The options available and their costs will vary
- per member location.
-
- One Time Installation Fees
- Self Service Installation*: Medium Estimated Fee
- 9.6Kb/s leased line $10,750
- 56Kb/s leased line $ 9,750
- 500Kb/s leased line $20,500
- T1 leased line $20,500
- 10 Mb/s microwave $50,000
-
- *For full service installation add $2,500 to the self service fee.
-
- Please call NEARnet at (617) 873-8730 for an exact quotation for your site.
-
- NEARnet is operated on the basis of full-cost recovery. Charges are designed
- to recover the full costs of providing service to the NEARnet members.
- Membership dues cover the costs of management, administration, and user
- services. Service fees cover the costs of network operations, maintenance,
- depreciation and backbone circuits. Installation fees cover the costs of
- providing equipment to connect members to the network. Fees are subject to
- periodic review and change by the NEARnet Steering Committee.
-
-