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- From: iddos@math.tau.ac.il (Iddo Ilan)
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- Subject: REVIEW: AD516 16-bit direct-to-hard-disk audio board
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- Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:18:35 GMT
- Organization: The Amiga Online Review Column - ed. Daniel Barrett
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- Keywords: hardware, audio, sampling, hard disk recording, commercial
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-
- PRODUCT NAME
-
- Sunrize AD516 16-bit digital signal processor (DSP) card for
- digital direct-to-hard-disk recording.
-
-
- BRIEF DESCRIPTION
-
- This is a 16-bit digital recording device on a Zorro card. The
- package includes the Sunrize AD516 board, Sunrize Studio16 software 2.05, and
- Bars&Pipes ("B&P") Studio16 modules for using the AD516 from Bars&Pipes.
- Features include:
-
- Digital multitrack direct-to-disk recording.
- 16 bit (delta sigma) at 14 rates 5.5 - 48KHz.
- LTC SMPTE reader, MIDI control and auto-sync via Bars&Pipes.
- Frequency Response 15Hz-22KHz
- Typical S/N ratio 87 dB
- DSP ADSP2105, 10 MIPS
- tracks 5 tracks on 2000, 8 on 3000
- Pan & volume adjustable & MIDI-controlled per track
-
-
- AUTHOR/COMPANY INFORMATION
-
- Name: Sunrize industries
- Address: 2959 S. Winchester Blvd., Suite 204
- Campbell, CA 95008
- USA
-
- Telephone: (408) 374-4962
- FAX: (408) 374-4963 [the manual is incorrect]
-
-
- LIST PRICE
-
- $1595 (US). In advertisements, I've seen it for $1300-$1400 (US).
-
-
- SPECIAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS
-
- HARD DISK SPEED
- The product assumes HD access time of regular 2091 & 3000HD
- or faster. Slower disks (magneto-optical, Syquest, Maxtor
- Tahiti, etc.) may work but with fewer tracks, more RAM
- buffers, faster CPU, and/or slower rate.
-
-
- HARD DISK SIZE
- 16-bit sampling @ 44.1 Khz needs 5.3 MB disk space per track
- per minute.
- This means one needs both an HD as big as possible AND a
- fast and massive backup device to backup tracks during and
- after jobs. Operators on other platforms use their audio
- DAT tapes for backup - this makes great sense but is yet
- unavailable on the Sunrize system.
-
- RAM
- I tested AD516 on 3MB. I don't know the minimum RAM. Default
- channel buffer is 256K * [number tracks played], so I guess
- at least 2MB are assumed.
-
- CPU
- It worked for me, 4 tracks@44.1 KHz, with 2000/68000 and
- 3000/68030. If you want 8 tracks, the manufacturer requires
- a 68030.
-
- SOFTWARE
- No special official requirements.
- In practice, under Kickstart 1.3, the B&P virtual track
- module crashed upon running. Under 2.0, the virtual track
- did not crash at once, but only after some minutes.
-
-
- COPY PROTECTION
-
- None.
-
-
- MACHINES USED FOR TESTING
-
- Model RAM CHIP Kickstart HD
- 2000 3MB 1MB 2.0 40MB
- 3000 3MB 1MB 1.3/2.0 40MB
-
- (It crashed so badly on the 2000 that the vendor lent me a 3000
- for further testing. It still crashed a lot)
-
- DOCUMENTATION
-
- The incomplete manual came with an apology -- and a promise to send
- the final manual later. Nothing has arrived in the last month. The MIDI
- appendix is missing: there's a "READ.ME" file instead. At the end of that
- file, there is a remark about how in some situations you may have to lower
- the number of tracks, etc. Does this remind you too of the legal argument
- in the opening episode of The Hitchhiker's Guide?
-
-
- COMPARISON TO OTHER SIMILAR PRODUCTS
-
- AD516 is one of the most cost-effective multitrack boards on any
- platform. But unlike the AD516, other boards sometimes have digital I/O,
- MIDI support, and customer support.
-
- Amiga
-
- The French Xanadu is, as far as I know, the only other pro
- system on the Amiga. Xanadu has digital I/O and some MIDI
- clock support, but requires 68030 for 2 tracks! Just like a
- Mac. I don't know their price.
-
- Mac
-
- The equation "68030 = 2 tracks" is common in the Mac world.
- DigiDesign-AudioMediaII/Cubase on the MacIIVX or more are
- similar products, but they cost much more than an
- Amiga 2000/AD516/B&P. The last Mac-based studio I used had a
- full-blown Quadra-based system with editing features Sunrize
- does not even mention, but it charged $100 an hour. With
- some stable MIDI implementation, I could compete against
- that studio over film music and remix jobs -- from my
- desktop. (This story is continued in CONCLUSIONS, below.)
-
- PC
- The only pro PC board I've heard is Turtle Beach combination
- digital recorder plus Proteus-on-a-card. The system I saw
- run on 386, had no digital I/O and syncing it with MIDI was
- difficult. I've seen ads for Windows-Cubase, but haven't
- heard it; it may be the only working low-end configuration
- available today.
-
-
- WARRANTY
-
- 1 year, original purchaser only, defective materials/workmanship.
-
-
- REVIEW & BUGS
-
- Studio16 software is quite stable and very modular. Some modules can
- be run multiple times simultaneously. There is a sexy view-meter,
- transport, SMPTE clock, mixer with level sliders, a cue list, open samples
- list, and an editor. The editor has effects that are no better than those
- found on Amiga 8-bit editors (no stretching). You can edit two or more
- tracks/samples in sync, non-destructive or destructive editing, etc.
-
- With interlace on, it looks professional. It is amazing to see 4
- editors open on same window with a pointer that moves over them all to show
- the current point in the song. All that on an Amiga 2000! There is a
- background grid -- but unfortunately only in frames/seconds/minutes and not
- in music bars (like B&P).
-
- You can record tracks while recording others, bounce tracks, etc.
- Available rates are up to 48Khz. Various sample formats are supported,
- CDTV's RAW included. 16-bit samples can play simultaneously with 8-bit
- samples.
-
- AD516 + Studio16 has various uses:
-
- 1 - SMPTE-reading soundtrack-production multi-track
-
- This obviously was the premier target in this
- product. If you are in video, this is a very
- attractive deal. I haven't tried the SMPTE (I'm not
- in video). I tried 4 and 8 tracks @44.1 and they
- seem OK.
-
- 2 - MIDI SAMPLE PLAYER
-
- Samples are supposed to be triggered from B&P by
- piping "note-on" events into Sunrize-Out module in
- B&P.
-
- Problem 1: They don't more than they do.
- Problem 2: They behave erratically and crash.
- Problem 3: There is no pitch-shift feature, so this
- is OK for effects, not music.
-
- 3 - MIDI virtual track(s?)
-
- This is where dreams come true. With B&P's "virtual
- track" module you can open an audio track window on
- B&P' screen. I tried opening a few. I tried
- different platforms. No matter what I did, it
- crashed within minutes, and in those - was almost
- uncontrollable. It looks & feels distinct beta.
-
- Based on my experience in those few minutes, I suspect
- real sync is not available, "punch-in" is not
- available, and micro-timing vocals (like, for raps)
- will be tiresome if not impossible.
-
- 4 - Remixing tool to/from DAT
-
- All the AD516 lacks for that are digital I/O ports,
- so HD/DAT connection remains in digital domain
- without generation loss. Such a port is under
- development -- it has a name, DD524, but no release
- date or price is announced. It is planned to provide
- quick & cheap backup (of both Studio16 samples and
- other data) to user's DAT plus enable audio CD
- mastering.
-
-
- CONCLUSIONS
-
- The product was released August 1992: 5 months ago. However, in
- contrast to the good hardware (and possibly SR software) performance, the
- weakest link in the chain -- the MIDI modules -- reduces the costly product
- to beta quality or less.
-
- It could, and still can, blossom to be the elegant and powerful tool
- my peer group spent its youth dreaming of -- but currently, as a result of
- the above, the product is unfunctional -- except perhaps as a non-MIDI
- digital multitrack (sounds like a novelty hack).
-
- It's shameful that, while Microsoft Windows has MIDI integrated in
- system, Amiga developers count on video alone to supply the elusive
- "multimedia solution." It used to be the other way around.
-
- It cost me a bundle to find it out, but I like to share.
-
-
- CUSTOMER SUPPORT
-
- Sunrize acknowledged the problems and blamed Blue Ribbon, which
- hasn't answered my distributor in the last weeks.
-
-
- CONCLUSIONS
-
- I got an important remix project canceled because of this bad
- surprise. Now my distributor is in the US, trying to get some word from Blue
- Ribbon. If he fails, I return the product.
-
-
- CUSTOMER SUGGESTIONS
-
- Don't believe the hype.
-
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-
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