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- GIF2JPG and JPG2GIF
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- Version 1.5
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- May 13, 1991
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- Handmade Software, Inc.
- 15951 Los Gatos Blvd., Suite 7
- Los Gatos, CA 95032
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- +1 408 356 4143 fax
- +1 408 358 1292 tel
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- uucp: apple!netcom!hsi
- internet: hsi@netcom.com
- compuserve: 71330,3136
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- Copyright (c) 1990-1991
- All Rights Reserved
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- Introduction
-
-
- JPG2GIF and GIF2JPG are a set of shareware programs which
- convert GIF files to JPEG files and JPEG files back to GIF
- files.
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- Why would you want to do this?
-
- Because typically JPEG files are several times smaller than
- GIF files. So, by converting images from GIF to JPEG you save
- on modeming time, long distance charges, and disk storage
- requirements. The disadvantage is that you can't view JPEG
- files directly; you have to convert them back to GIF files so
- that you can use your favorite GIF viewer.
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- Using GIF2JPG & JPG2GIF
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- To convert .GIF files to .JPG files:
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- GIF2JPG [options] [files...]
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- If any .JPG files with the same name already exist you will be
- asked whether to overwrite them. If any GIF89A files are
- encountered you will be asked whether or not to convert them.
- GIF89A files are not automatically converted since they can
- contain text and multiple images; this information will be
- lost when the image is converted to a JPEG file.
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- To convert .JPG files to .GIF files:
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- JPG2GIF [options] [files...]
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- If any .GIF files already exist you will be asked whether or
- not to overwrite them.
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- There are two options which are common to both programs:
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- -a: automatically proceeds (overwriting any existing
- files and converting GIF89A files).
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- -k: kill (removes) the original files after they are
- processed.
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- The GIF2JPG program has two additional options:
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- -q[n]: specify the JPEG quality factor which will be
- used when compressing GIF files.
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- The default is 55.
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- A lower number will result in a higher
- compression ratio, but a lower quality image.
- Specifying a very low quality factor (less than
- 15) will result in poor quality images.
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- -j: force compatibility with JFIF standard (also
- versions of GIF2JPG v1.41 and before).
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- Note that you may specify wild cards as part of the file name
- and that multiple file names may be specified.
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- Examples:
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- GIF2JPG -q30 *.gif
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- Will convert all .GIF files in the current directory to .JPG
- files, using a quality factor of 30.
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- JPG2GIF -k -a test.jpg madonna.jpg n?.jpg
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- Will convert the specified files back to .GIF files, deleting
- the .JPG files and automatically overwriting the existing GIF
- files.
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- Hardware Requirements
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- An IBM PC or clone (at least an 80286 for any kind of
- performance).
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- A hard drive (JPG2GIF needs to open temporary files while
- processing; you must have at least 3 times as much disk space
- available as the largest image you are converting (for
- example, a 640 by 480 file requires 1 Megabyte of free space].
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- MS-DOS or PC-DOS 3.1 or later.
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- 380K of available RAM.
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- Shareware
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- GIF2JPG and JPG2GIF are shareware programs. Please feel free
- to distribute them by giving copies to your friends, uploading
- them to bulletin boards, and trading them at user clubs. You
- must distribute them unaltered, and as a set, including this
- document. You may not sell these files for more than a $7.00
- media duplication cost.
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- You may use GIF2JPG and JPG2GIF on a trial basis for two
- weeks; after that you must register by sending us $20 or stop
- using them. The last page of this document is an order form
- which you may use. When you register, you will be shipped a
- copy of the latest version of JPG2GIF and GIF2JPG (if,
- according to your order form, you already have the latest
- version, we will ship you the first update when it is
- available).
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- Image Quality
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- JPEG compression works best on images which are continuous
- tone images, such as those produced by a scanner or digitizer.
- Images which are drawn with paint programs typically do not
- JPEG compress very well.
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- In addition, the best quality JPEG images result when you
- start with 24 bit, undithered images. Unfortunately GIF does
- not support 24 bit images; and most of the 8 bit GIF images
- are dithered.
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- So, if you are using a scanner or digitizer to produce images,
- you can get better compression ratios, and better quality
- images, if you generate 24 bit Targa or TIFF files and then
- convert them to JPEG files. You can't do this with GIF2JPG,
- but you can with another Handmade product, Image Alchemy. See
- the blatant ad below.
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- Answers to Frequently Asked Questions:
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- Q: How do you pronounce JPG?
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- A: Jay-peg. JPG is short for JPEG, which is short for Joint
- Photographic Experts Group. Note that we use JPEG and
- JPG to mean the same thing; JPG only exists because PC
- file names are restricted to having a three letter
- extension.
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- By the way, we firmly believe that GIF should be
- pronounced with a hard G like the word gift. The primary
- justification for this is that GIF stands for Graphics
- Interchange Format, and the word Graphics starts with a
- hard G. So if you call us up for tech. support don't be
- surprised if we say GIF (with a hard G).
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- Q: So what exactly is JPEG?
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- A: JPEG is a lossy image file compression standard. It is
- lossy because the files you get out are not quite the
- same as the files you get in. JPEG compression achieves
- much higher compression ratios this way. Most of the
- time the changes to the image are not noticeable. The -q
- option allows you to control the amount of loss (and the
- compression ratios) of the images.
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- If you would like more information on the JPEG standard
- please contact:
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- X3 Secretariat
- Computer and Business Equipment Manufacturers Institute
- 311 First Street NW, Suite 500
- Washington, DC 20001-2178
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- Q: Are GIF2JPG .JPG files compatible with anything else?
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- A: Those files which are written using the -j option are
- compatible with the JPEG File Interchange Format standard
- (JFIF, pronounced Jay-fif). JFIF software will be
- available from a wide variety of software and hardware
- vendors including Radius and C-Cube. Files written out
- without the -j option are a custom format specific to
- Handmade Software (though for historical reasons they
- also have a .JPG extension).
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- Q: Why can't I view a JPG file directly?
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- A: JPEG files are always 24 bit images, which can't be
- viewed directly on VGA boards. So unless you have a
- Targa board or a XGA compatible IBM PS/2 you don't have
- the needed hardware to view a JPG file directly (and in
- fact there aren't enough of those boards currently in
- circulation to justify writing a JPG view).
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- It is possible to convert a 24 bit image for display on
- an 8 bit display, that is after all what JPG2GIF does
- when it converts to a GIF file, but it is slow. Image
- Alchemy, another Handmade Software product, lets you view
- JPEG files directly, but it uses a uniform palette, which
- produces sub-optimal image quality (the viewing mode in
- Image Alchemy is intended as a preview only).
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- Q: What is planned for future releases of GIF2JPG?
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- A: Faster conversion time. We are currently re-coding the
- software from C into 80386 assembly language. This
- should allow 80386 users to decompress an image in less
- than half the time it currently takes (we are only
- writing 80386 code because the technique we are using
- requires 1 megabyte of continuous RAM, and because of the
- wonderful Intel segmented architecture, it's not really
- possible to do this on anything less than a 80386).
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- The other major addition will be thumbnails in the JPG
- files. Thumbnails are a low-resolution copy of the
- original image (64 pixels by 48 pixels). Thumbnails are
- useful if you want to preview an image before downloading
- and/or converting it.
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- In the not too distant future you will able to call up a
- BBS, look through a listing of JPG files, select some
- number of images for previewing, and have the BBS quickly
- download the thumbnails of those images. You then select
- which of those images you really want and the BBS will
- download them (by the way, if you are an author of BBS
- software and you want your BBS to support this please
- contact us).
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- Explanation of why GIF files grew when using
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- GIF2JPG v1.41 and why this doesn't happen anymore:
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- First a few definitions:
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- A continuous tone image is one where there aren't any sharp
- edges between objects in the image, instead there are lots of
- intermediate colours around the edges of objects. Images like
- this are created when you scan a photograph or use a video
- digitizer with a video camera. Another property of continuous
- tone images is that there aren't any large areas which are
- only one colour, instead there are many subtle different
- shades of colour.
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- A drawn image is exactly that, an image drawn using a paint
- program. Drawn images look like they are out of comic books,
- they have sharp edges and large areas which are one solid
- colour.
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- JPEG compression is an image compression technique which
- compresses continuous tone images. You can JPEG compress a
- drawn image, but you wouldn't want to (for reasons which are
- explained below).
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- GIF is a compression technique which works on both continuous
- tone or drawn images. GIF compression works much better on
- drawn images, but most of the GIF images in the world are
- continuous tone images.
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- So why do some images grow when going from GIF to JPEG and
- back to GIF?
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- That has to do with the differences between continuous tone
- and a drawn images.
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- Take for example a photograph of a dog standing in front of a
- uniform blue wall. Even if the original picture looked like
- the wall was one colour, when you scanned it the computer
- would see subtle shadows and highlights in the wall (not to
- mention the fact that scanning an image introduces sampling
- noise). There also wouldn't be any instantaneous transitions
- between two colours; even at the edge of the dog there would
- be several pixels of anti-aliasing. You don't see these
- things when looking at the photograph because you are used to
- small changes in colour and detail, this is way you can tell
- the difference between computer generated images and images of
- real things (though with enough computing power it is now
- possible to make the differences very small).
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- Now in contrast to scanning, think about using a paint program
- to draw a picture of a dog standing in front of a blue wall.
- The first step is to take a nice shade of blue and fill the
- entire frame, this will be the wall. You then grab a suitable
- dog colour and draw the outline of the dog. Next you use
- variations of this colour and fill in the dog. When you were
- finished you would have an image of a dog standing in front of
- a blue wall.
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- You now have two different image files. A continuous tone
- image of a dog against a blue wall and a drawn image of a dog
- against a blue wall.
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- If you now take each of these files and convert them to a GIF
- file, the first file will be much larger than the second file
- (how much larger depends on how many different colours you
- used to fill in the dog, but a factor of 3 to 4 is likely).
- This difference in files sizes is caused by the compression
- technique that GIF uses. GIF compression works great on areas
- of solid colours and sharp transitions between colours. So
- the solid blue background in the drawn image would compress
- phenomenally well, as would the area where the blue touches
- the dog outline colour. The only part of the scene which
- wouldn't GIF compress really well is the actual dog.
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- If instead of converting the scanned image and the drawn image
- to GIF files, you were to JPEG compress them, you would get
- different results; each file would be pretty much the same
- size. This is because JPEG compression was designed to
- compress continuous tone images. Therefore JPEG compression
- works equally well for areas that are a single colour as
- for areas with subtle shading (in fact, under certain
- circumstances, JPEG compression works better for areas which
- are shaded than for areas which are all a single colour). So
- the scanned image of the dog and the drawn images would be
- pretty much the same size if JPEG compressed.
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- So far so good, we have shown that JPEG compression is better
- than GIF compression for scanned images and it doesn't matter
- for drawn images. What does this have to do with files
- growing in size when they are converted from GIF to JPEG and
- back to GIF?
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- Well, if we were to convert the JPEG file of the drawn dog to
- a GIF file something interesting would happen. The solid blue
- wall the dog is standing in front of would no longer be one
- colour, it would consist of a large number of slightly
- different shades of blue. This occurs because JPEG
- compression is allowed to slightly alter the colours of
- individual pixels. This is why JPEG compression ratios are so
- good. Ordinarily these minor changes are not significant;
- usually they are not even visible to the human eye. So the
- blue wall would no longer be one identical blue colour. When
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- humans look at this area they don't perceive it this way; as
- far as humans are concerned it is still solid blue.
- Unfortunately GIF compression is not so forgiving. When you
- try to GIF compression an area of image which is many
- different shades of one colour, all randomly intermixed, GIF
- compression does a terrible job.
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- We have known about this problem with JPEG compression for a
- long time. In fact GIF2JPG has included code from the first
- version to detect when the image being converted to a JPEG
- file was a drawn image . If it was the image was left as a
- GIF file.
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- Unfortunately there seem to be a large number of files which
- are half-scanned and half-drawn. These images tend to be of
- the following type (I tried to draw a dog in the right hand
- side of the screen to match the previous discussion, but it's
- real hard to draw with the ASCII charset):
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- +----------------------------------------------------------+
- | |..............**......./\.......|
- | This image downloaded |.............**......./XX\......|
- | from Smiling Joe's |............*.........\XX/......|
- | House of GIFs. |......../\.|.|.........\/.......|
- | |......./..\|.|..........|.......|
- | |....../....\.|........./........|
- | |...../......\|........|.........|
- | Call 1-900-JOESGIF |..../........\........|.........|
- | |...|..........|....../..........|
- | |...|..........|...O.|...........|
- | Commercial use or |...|..........|..-+-............|
- | distribution not |...|..........|...|.............|
- | permitted. |...|__________|../ \............|
- | |................................|
- +-----------------------------------------------------------
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- Where the left half was drawn using a paint program and only
- contains two or three different colours (therefore there are
- lots of areas of just one colour and lots of sharp transitions
- between colours), and the right half of the image was scanned
- from a photograph and therefore contains lots of different
- colours (and different shades of those colours).
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- The problem with this image is that the left side shouldn't be
- JPEG compressed. Unfortunately the previous versions of
- GIF2JPG weren't very smart, they would look at the image as a
- whole and, because a large portion of it was continuous tone,
- decide that it was okay to JPEG compress it. Unfortunately
- when the JPEG compressed file is converted back to a GIF file
- the left hand side of the image will grow, making the
- resultant GIF file much larger than the original GIF file.
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- This new version of GIF2JPG fixes this problem. It looks at
- the image in a piece-by-piece manner, deciding independently
- if each piece should be JPEG compressed or not. All the
- pieces are then combined into one file.
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- JPG2GIF takes this file and converts it back to a single GIF
- image.
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- What does all this really mean?
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- Assume that the original image was 640 x 480 with 256 colours.
- As a GIF image it was 150k. Converting it to a JPEG file
- using v1.41 or before caused it to shrink to 65k. Converting
- it back to a GIF file caused the resultant file to grown to
- 210k.
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- Now using GIF2JPG v1.5 the JPEG file would still be 65k; and
- when the image is converted back to a GIF the size is 150k.
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- So when you JPEG compress an image using this new version of
- GIF2JPG you will get a file which does not grow significantly
- when decompressed (the image can grow or shrink slightly, this
- is due to the way that the pseudo-randomness of JPEG
- compression and GIF compression inter-react).
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- To test this we have taken a large number of GIF files (some
- sent in by users of previous versions GIF2JPG and some we had
- laying around) and JPEG compressed them and then converted
- them back to GIFs.
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- The results are that we started out with 10,456,995 bytes of
- GIF files, when they were JPEG compressed they reduced to
- 4,969,851 bytes.
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- And when the images were converted back to GIF they ended up
- at 9,972,594. The actual file sizes can be found in appendix
- A, below. Note that some of the files grew slightly and some
- shrunk slightly, but none changed an extreme amount.
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- One problem with this new technique of only partially JPEG
- compressing an image is that the files produced are
- incompatible with older versions of GIF2JPG. Therefore we
- have included the -j option to generate the old style JPEG
- files. Note that JPG2GIF automatically reads old .JPG files,
- so any files you have already converted to JPEG do not need to
- be updated (though if any are half continuous tone and half
- drawn it would be a good idea to re-compress the original GIF
- file).
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- Is JPEG compression too slow?
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- Recently we have gotten some complaints that JPEG compression
- and decompression is too slow. We admit that it is slow, and
- we are working on speeding it up; but we disagree that it is
- too slow. If you are going to be sending GIF images over a
- modem, it is faster to JPEG compress and decompress them, than
- to send the GIF files.
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- To illustrate this we have done some timing benchmarks.
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- We took 81 GIF files at random from those that had been sent
- in for various reasons and off of disks of images we had
- laying around. The images were not selected because they JPEG
- compressed particularly well, we just kept copying files off
- of disks until we had 10 megabytes worth.
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- The computer used for these tests is a 20MHz 80386, with 4
- Megabytes of RAM, no RAM cache, and a really slow hard drive
- (an ST-225). The command line used to convert the files from
- GIF to JPEG was "GIF2JPG *.gif" and the command to convert
- them back was "JPG2GIF *.jpg" (we deleted the original GIF
- files by hand between to two steps).
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- The actual number of bytes in the 81 GIF files was 10,456,995.
- When the files were JPEG compressed the total file size was
- 4,969,851 bytes, a savings of 5,487,144 bytes.
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- The total time to convert the files from GIF to JPEG was just
- over 40 minutes, the time spent to convert them back was just
- over 1 hour and 15 minutes.
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- If you send the JPEG files over a 2400 baud modem you save
- over 4 hours and 20 minutes, including the time needed to both
- compress and decompress the files. If you were just
- downloading them from a BBS, and you only had to convert them
- from JPEG to GIF, the time saved is over 5 hours.
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- Even if you are fortunate enough to have a 9600 baud modem,
- and assuming 100% modem efficiency (960 characters/second),
- you still would save almost 20 minutes downloading and
- decompressing the images as JPEG files as compared to
- downloading GIF files.
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- We realize that if you have an even faster modem or a slower
- computer it is possible for it to actually take more time to
- transmit the JPEG file and decompress it than to transmit the
- GIF files. But with a 20MHz 386 costing less than a 9600 baud
- modem it doesn't make much sense for that to be the case
- (unless you bought a faster modem to save on long-distance or
- BBS chargers, in which case the download time becomes much
- more important than the total time and it therefore makes even
- more sense to JPEG compress files before transmitting them).
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- For those of you using a Telebit Trailblazer with an original
- 4.77 MHz IBM PC, we suggest you sell your modem and buy a
- faster computer.
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- The actual details are:
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- Size of original GIF files: 10,456,995 bytes
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- Size of JPEG files: 4,969,851 bytes
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- Difference: 5,487,144 bytes
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- Total time to JPEG compress all images: 40:11 (2411 seconds)
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- The total time to convert all JPEG images back to GIF images:
- 1:16:52 (4612 seconds).
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- Theoretical time to transmit the GIF files (10,456,995 bytes)
- at 2400 baud (240 characters/second): 12:06:11 (43,571
- seconds)
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- Theoretical time to transmit the JPEG files (4,969,851 bytes)
- at 2400 baud (240 characters/second): 5:45:08 (20,708
- seconds)
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- Total transmission time saved: 6:21:03 (22,863 seconds)
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- Net difference (transmission time-compression time-
- decompression time): 4:24:00 (15,840 seconds)
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- The actual file sizes can be found in Appendix A.
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- Change History:
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- v1.5 05/13/91
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- Changed .JPG file format to solve problem which caused some
- .GIF files to grow when being converted back from .JPG files.
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- Added support for reading interleaved GIFs.
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- The background colour of GIFs is now set to the darkest colour
- in the palette.
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- Added -j option.
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- v1.41 04/24/91
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- Fixed bug in JPG2GIF which caused some colours to be wrong in
- certain images.
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- v1.4 04/22/91
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- Added -q option.
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- Speeded up conversion.
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- v1.3 04/18/91
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- Changed error messages, prompts, and examples.
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- v1.2 03/15/91
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- Added JFIF support.
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- v1.1 03/06/91
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- First release.
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- Blatant Ad for Image Alchemy
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- If your interest in image files extends beyond GIF and JPEG
- you might be interested in Image Alchemy.
-
- In addition to converting between over 15 different image file
- formats, including GIF, JPEG, TIFF, Targa, PCX, Sun Raster,
- Silicon Graphics Image, IFF/ILBM, PBM, and Encapsulated
- Postscript, Alchemy will allow you to resize images, dither
- images, and view images on a VGA monitor.
-
- See the order form below for details on how to get a shareware
- version.
-
-
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- Bugs and Support
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- If you have a question or think you found a bug in GIF2JPG or
- JPG2GIF don't hesitate to contact us. We prefer to be reached
- by email at the addresses listed on the front page of this
- manual (we apologize for not having a BBS you can call; we
- will soon). You may also fax us or call us during normal
- business hours (we are on the West Coast).
-
- By the way, contact us even if you have not registered,
- because in addition to wanting to know about potential bugs,
- we figure the best way to encourage registrations is to
- demonstrate that we care about our customers.
-
-
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- Trademarks
-
- GIF2JPG, JPG2GIF, and Image Alchemy are trademarks of Handmade
- Software, Inc.
-
- All other products or services mentioned are trademarks,
- registered trademarks, or service marks of their respective
- companies or organizations.
-
-
-
- Disclaimer
-
- Handmade Software, Inc. makes no warranty of any kind, either
- expressed or implied, including but not limited to implied
- warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular
- purpose.
-
- In no event shall Handmade Software, Inc. be liable for any
- errors contained herein or for incidental or consequential
- damages in connection with the furnishing, performance, or use
- of the GIF2JPG or JPG2GIF products or documentation.
-
-
-
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- Appendix A:
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- Details of the test files referred to above:
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- (The file names have been removed to obscure the fact that the
- images were all R or NC-17 rated).
-
- Original Duplicate
- GIF Size JPEG Size GIF Size
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- 228352 128199 248055
- 81929 81929 81929
- 204800 113507 225832
- 195850 86071 195203
- 78099 31053 88188
- 133658 47816 72605
- 170774 71769 183633
- 42298 24735 51734
- 228992 93782 208251
- 16681 16681 16681
- 15780 15780 15780
- 18762 18762 18762
- 134760 77648 140563
- 166047 76972 178659
- 199651 75207 194445
- 131758 52555 137821
- 32772 20666 38948
- 32910 18426 54964
- 105220 37663 106165
- 115222 40980 111282
- 54272 28727 63358
- 875472 290903 892499
- 237568 66576 196817
- 62673 19247 61502
- 34816 17642 25287
- 272964 135371 286302
- 127710 45023 134910
- 160501 80655 177491
- 125952 34676 56130
- 150586 58252 159437
- 61641 61641 61641
- 97197 97197 97197
- 32768 17498 36573
- 144706 45095 166127
- 13109 13109 13109
- 29409 15100 31675
- 261120 81807 241612
- 264448 99122 265028
- 66905 23209 64457
- 149632 84716 148588
- 79718 27409 80401
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- 113664 33992 64730
- 20480 14847 22415
- 101439 98575 147590
- 106657 106657 106657
- 78758 32079 75053
- 17134 17134 17134
- 18288 18288 18288
- 14630 14630 14630
- 187264 86234 175588
- 45566 45566 45566
- 107284 107284 107284
- 99620 99620 99620
- 18150 18150 18150
- 281858 100893 286064
- 223734 65099 191855
- 114733 114733 114733
- 63328 63328 63328
- 180395 180395 180395
- 269755 85543 223617
- 206593 84623 208314
- 200215 85709 203982
- 171903 61121 168577
- 28544 26261 33445
- 268629 119638 318371
- 53248 15785 31031
- 79872 24247 43045
- 63488 19721 34855
- 51200 36165 62308
- 503890 166076 279601
- 152935 51132 84908
- 126206 50525 126728
- 33792 33792 33792
- 113115 48050 101624
- 60829 60829 60829
- 91885 56562 97789
- 49333 49152 54835
- 35840 35840 35840
- 288316 58595 205519
- 66747 66747 66747
- 110196 43058 118116
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- 10456995 4969851 9972594
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- If you would like copies of the actual images to verify these
- results just send us enough blank, formatted disks, to hold 10
- megabytes (i.e. nine 1.2 meg disks, eight 1.4 meg disks,
- twenty-nine 360k disks, or fifteen 720k disks), and a self-
- addressed, stamped box. We will also need a signed note
- stating that you are over 18 and want to receive adult images
- (yes, the test images were almost all R or NC-17 rated).
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- JPG2GIF and GIF2JPG 1.5 Order Form
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- Send to: Handmade Software, Inc.
- 15951 Los Gatos Blvd., Suite 7
- Los Gatos, CA 95032
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- Qty Description Price Total
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- _____ JPG2GIF & GIF2JPG for IBM PC $20.00 __________
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- _____ Image Alchemy -- Shareware version $2.00 __________
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- Sub-Total: __________
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- California Residents add applicable sales tax __________
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- Total __________
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- Circle Disk size: 3 1/2" 5 1/4"
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- Circle Payment form: Check MC Visa Amex
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- Card #:______________________________________ Exp. Date: ____________
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- Signature: _____________________________________________________
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- Name: ___________________________________________________________
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- Address: ________________________________________________________
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- ________________________________________________________
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- City: ___________________________ State: _________ Zip: _________
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- Phone: (______) ________________ Fax: (______) ________________
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- Phone number of BBS you got this program from: __________________
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- Name of BBS: ____________________________________________________