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The GUS Daily Digest     Saturday, 28 October 1995     Volume 24 : Number 004

Today's Topics:
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V24 #2
    Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.
    Newsgroup for GUS?
    Re: sb 16 value ed.
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V24 #2
    STTNG: A Final Unity
    Kings Quest V
    Information from Gravis official (fwd)
    Win 95 detects GUS
    Revision 2 / GUS Windows / Motherboards & cd-rom DMA / NT
    Information from Gravis official
    Re: sb 16 value ed.
    Newsgroup for GUS?
    STTNG: A Final Unity
    Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.
    Re: Newsgroup for GUS?
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V24 #2
    Re: Newsgroup for GUS?
    Re: Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.
    Re: Newsgroup for GUS?
    Re: Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.
    Re: ATTN guy who had GUS for sale
    Re: Revision 2 / GUS Windows / Motherboards & cd-rom DMA / NT
    Re: Revision 2 / GUS Windows / Motherboards & cd-rom DMA / NT

Standard Info:
    - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
    - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Yossi Oren <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 09:31:59 +0200
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V24 #2

William, the simplest way to avoid the line amp on the 2.4, and the degradation
in quality it causes is - ue the other jack!
See, one is straight through, one passes the amp.  I used to wire one to my
hifi and plug headphones into the other ones (until I found out the headphones
sound much better when plugged into the hifi's port).
HTH!
Yossi.

[e-mail] / Visit <http://www.golan.org.il>.
Currently serving somewhere in / Politically correct my ass.
the Israeli Defense Forces.   /                  Get a GUS.
- --------( "ObKibo" )---------

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From: [e-mail] (Pechacek Ivan)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:39:15 +0000 (WET)
Subject: Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.

Hi gusers !

I have got a mainboard AsusTek with AWARD bios a two weeks ago. I was very
unhappy when I found problems with sound on my GUS (rev3.7). Somewere I have
read that this board have conflict with NMI. I also tested on my computer
(AMD486DX4/100 Mhz,8Mb RAM,CDROM) Soundblaster AWE32 Value Edit. and this
soundcard also had a problems like noplaying sound (always crashed my
computer) or It has a conflict with a grafic card. I'dont know how or what I
have to do for removing this problem. (motherboard is NOT possible to change)
I will be grateful for any advice to solution of this problem.

                            Ivan Pechacek
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mail respond to : [e-mail]
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail] (David JΣrlestedt)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:21:23 +0100
Subject: Newsgroup for GUS?

Wouldn't it be a great idea to create a newsgroup for GUS-related questions?
As it is right now, people with GUS has to post to
comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.misc etc. But I really think a GUS-ONLY newsgroup
could be needed. As I don't know much about creating new groups, I'm just
hoping someone else with the proper knowledge, also thinks this is a good idea.

There could be 2 parallel groups named, comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus and
comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus.game, so we keep all gamerelated problems out
of the "normal" group.

Anyone else that thinks this is a good idea?

cheers,

David


------------------------------

From: Dewi Daniels <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 08:46:29 BST
Subject: Re: sb 16 value ed.

> >My money would be on a Soundblaster 16 (not the value edition) and a wavetable
> >daughterboard such as the Roland SCD-10.
>
> just out of curiosity, what is wrong/missing/different about the sb16 value
> edition?

The value edition doesn't allow you to connect a wavetable daughterboard. The
value edition is a lot cheaper than the full edition, but I reasoned that
anyone considering a GUS wouldn't be satisfied with the sound quality of FM
synthesis.

Dewi Daniels

------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 15:30:15 +0100
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V24 #2

>From: Marcel Wilders <[e-mail]>
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:38:01 +0100
>Subject: GUSMAX no sound in windows, need help
>
>Problem:            No sound in windows, only under DOS
>        Insufficient support from Tech Gravis
>
>Background:
>
>At the 17th of last july I did send the following email to [e-mail]:
>
>I used the MAX 512Kb board satisfactory for one year. All of a sudden no
>sound in windows any more. I couldn't detect the problem and decided to
>upgrade to the newest Gravis software. I did install GUS411.zip and
>installed mega304b.zip on top of it. No problems with the installation
>procedures appeared. However still no sound in windows.
>
>When I start the Ultrasound Mixer in windows the following error messages
>appear:
>
>- -       no wave output devices;
>- -       no midi output devices;
>- -       no aux output devices
>        cannot determine Ultrasound type;
>- -       Ultrasound driver not present
>
>Activating "Ultrasound Configuration" from windows let's me know:
>
>- -       Gravis Ultrasound driver version 5.51
>
>This gives me the impression that some software configuration is wrong.
>Question is: what could be the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>Til this moment I didn't receive a good solution for the problem, although I
>also posted this message in a few newsgroups concerning soundcards.
>
>After half a year of struggling I hope someone_can_lead_me_to_a_solution.
>
>- ->->->->->------->
>
>What I tried so far:
>Form [e-mail] I received the following reply at the 19th of july
>(quit fast):
>
>I tried rerunning the setup program from the Ultrasnd directory and
>have it update windows. It didn't work.
>
>........
>I tried  running the setup program from the Ultrasound directive to update
>windows: => no result
>I tried it with removing ultrasnd.drv: => no result.
>I deleted all references to the Max. in my  Autoexec.bat and Config.sys and
>did a setup again => same problems
>I removed even  ALL references I could find to the Max on my whole system
>and again did run setup => same problems
>In addition I first removed de Ultrasound drivers in the Windows Control
>panel => no effect
>After the above strategies, I removed the whole Ultrasound directive and
>performed a clean installation with the 3.59 software, the 4.11 patch => the
>installation went without any problems. The selftesting was o.k. However
>still no sound in windows.
>
>Always I get those messages about:
>
>- -       no wave output devices;
>- -       no midi output devices;
>- -       no aux output devices
>        cannot determine Ultrasound type;
>- -       Ultrasound driver not present
>
>And allways it appears impossible to configure Ultra Wave and Midi Synth. It
>allways results in a system halt. Only rebooting will help at that moment.
>
>Please help me with this mess. It really gets me mad. !!!!
>
>Marcel Wilders
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>Marcel Wilders,     Federatie Nederlandse Vakbeweging FNV
>Afdeling Arbeid, Sectie Arbeidsomstandigheden
>Postbus 8456  -  1005 AL Amsterdam  -   Nederland
>fax: [phone] -  voice +31.20.5816497
>FNV-WWW-homepage URL: http://www.fnv.nl
>E-mail: [e-mail]  (werk)  [e-mail] (prive)

Hey Marcel,

It seems that the problem you describe is not a problem with your card, givin
the fact that everything still works in dos. From your list of things you tried
I noticed that you haven't tried the obvious thing; reinstalling windows. You
can simply rename your current windows directory to something else, and then
reinstall a new (vey) basic windows copy. Install the gravis drivers to this
copy of windows and see if it works. If it does work than something is wrong
with your (old) windows setup which is not very unlikely.. After all Microsoft
build it..

Good luck

[e-mail]

------------------------------

From: "Dale Newcomb, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:38:51 -0700
Subject: STTNG: A Final Unity

I am still not getting any sound from STTNG: A Final Unity can someone
help me out here? My message to Gravis never got answered (gee surprise)
and my call to Spectrum Holobyte ended with "get new drivers from Gravis."
So I got the latest drivers off thew ftp sites (it's been about a month so
I can't remember what version it was, but it was the one that everyone told
me to get) and installed them (under Win95 if it matters) and tried to run
the game by booting into my old DOS 6.2 using the F4 bootup sequence and
running the game setup. When I do a sound test, I get no "Make it so". I have
tried different emulation modes (although the game says it supports the GUS)
and the only thing I could get was once with SBOS emulation I got the
"Make it so" clip running at about 1/2 speed or slower, but couldn't get it
to happen again. Anyone know what the hell I should do?

- -Dale

PS: Info on my system... Original GUS rev 2.1 with 1M RAM running on
i486DX4-100
with 8M RAM with Win95 final release. I've had little to no conflicts with my
GUS for the 3 years I've owned it and it is functioning normally with all my
other software.


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From: Mark Ruys <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 10:19:37 +0100
Subject: Kings Quest V

Kings Quest V (on CD-ROM from the 6-pack), GUS 3.7

Okee, so this game an oldy. But still it is the first time I play it and I
think I will like it. However I can't get the sound to work properly. I've
tried:

- - Running the windows version, using the Gravis Windows drivers.
  I get interrupted digital sound (eg when someone speeks).

- - Running the DOS version, using megaem.
  KQ can't initialize the digital sound driver.

- - Running the DOS version, using sbos.
  Strange intermittent high beeps.

Can anyone advise me how to set up sound properly?

Thanks!

Mark Ruys


Config: GUS 3.7
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6525 ED  Nijmegen, The Netherlands      \     fax:  [phone]



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From: [e-mail] (Micro)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:17:44 +0200 (UKR)
Subject: Information from Gravis official (fwd)

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Dear GUSers,
As you know, all of us have a headache regarding Ultrasound drivers for Windows'95.
My company, Microdata, is located in Ukraine (part of former USSR) in Odessa city and we
are official distributors of Advanced Gravis products in our country. So, as distributors, we sent
OFFICIAL REQUEST regarding Windows'95 drivers for Ultrasound as well as about Ultrasound
Interwave (Some of you know about it). Here is a text of the GRAVIS OFFICIAL ANSWER, received by fax (11,October,95).
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
This is a message to our customers about Advanced Gravis and Windows 95 drivers for the UltraSound family of wavetable sound
cards. We want to clarify what the situation is today and what you can expect in the future.
We announced a first version of full 32-bit, Windows'95 specific drivers in September. Although these drivers were created, they
were not of sufficient quality to release and are being reworked.

Our current schedule is as follows. On Dec.22, we will release Windows'95 compitable driver for the UltraSound. These drivers will
be fully integrated into the Windows'95 interface and will have all the functionality of the current Windows 3.1 drivers.
On January 26, we issue an upgrade which will add "DOS box" functionality.

In the meantime, we wish to remind UltraSound users that the currently available drivers (for Windows 3.1) will work under
Windows'95. They can be installed in the usual way in MS-DOS mode through the start/Shutdown..menu option.

We appreciate the support that our customers have shown for UltraSound, particulary through the Internet and the Commercial
On-line Services.
                  Michael Cooper,
                  President & CEO
                  Advanced Gravis.
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2. Regarding Ultrasound Interwave -it should be available at the end of November and will be compitable with Plug-N-Play
technology of Microsoft.
3. Gravis tech support sites are:
[e-mail] or [e-mail]

Best regards,
         Evgueni Lemberg,
MICRODATA-distributor of Advanced Gravis in Ukraine.






------------------------------

From: Samuli Niiranen <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 18:27 EET
Subject: Win 95 detects GUS

AvoidGUS: Found Gravis UltraSound
NetAvoidIO: 220-22f
NetAvoidIO: 388-38b

RegAvoidRes: ultrinit\0000
    IO=220-22f(3ff:0:0),388-38b(3ff:0:0)
SetVar: SkipGUSResources=


I found these lines in the detlog.txt which is created by win95 when
you run  hardware detection from control panel. It seems that
even MS has heard about GUS; probably Gravis has _some_ co-operation
with MS :). Note the phrase "AvoidGUS:" ;)


------------------------------

From: Sam <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:36:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Revision 2 / GUS Windows / Motherboards & cd-rom DMA / NT

> Subject: Re: What do the MAX and ACE cards have that plain GUS hasn't?
>
> >I'm planning to buy a soundcard... and Gravis' cards look
> >interesting...  I've read the description of the GUS in the GUS FAQ.  But

Just one point to add; if you buy a MAX or ACE, you can be sure they're
revision 3. If you are tempted to buy a GUS (second-hand for instance)
check to make sure, because older revision 2 cards don't work with the
latest MegaEm version (ie, don't work in emulation mode with protected
mode software) and can also have problems with *native* software.

[Problem with GUS Windows setup]

> And allways it appears impossible to configure Ultra Wave and Midi Synth. It
> allways results in a system halt. Only rebooting will help at that moment.

Delete (preferably) and re-install Windows. Then re-install the GUS
drivers using their install program. We had the exact same problem, but
with a standard GUS, and re-installing Windows fixed it.

[changes]

> Now, my question: what has changed regarding the GUS, hardware,
> software, etc? I still have the first version (not even a
> MAX!), so I realize I'm kinda behind the times.

Not much, really; assuming you have the protected-mode MegaEm that came
out ages ago (requires a revision 3 GUS, though, so if yours is an old
one like ours, that could be a problem).

Like someone said (thanks for the info!) GUS Interwave should be out at
the end of November; Window 95 drivers for GUS are expected (second time
round) in December and January.

[GUS doesn't work after upgrade to new motherboard]

> system and Win95 records only DMA 2 & 4 in use. I suspect however that my
> CD-ROM (connected to the on-board EIDE controller) may be using DMA 1.
> Whatever DMA setting I use the sound is garbled and distorted. Any help
> appreciated.

Try un-installing (removing!) the CD-ROM to see if that helps? If it
does, you could then ask somewhere else about changing CD-ROM DMA, or
else fiddle with jumpers if there are any that look hopeful ;) or use a
CD_ROM interface card instead.

> When... (or should i ask "if"?) can I expect there to be drivers available
> for Windows NT.

"If". The Win95 drivers are supposed to come out in December, I don't
think they are compatible but maybe they are (or will be with the
95-compatible NT version).

There was some talk about some guy writing NT drivers, but I haven't
heard of any progress on that.

Sam

------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Micro)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:00:14 +0200 (UKR)
Subject: Information from Gravis official

Dear GUSers,
As you know, all of us have a headache regarding Ultrasound drivers for Windows'95.
My company, Microdata, is located in Ukraine (part of former USSR) in Odessa city and we
are official distributors of Advanced Gravis products in our country. So, as distributors, we sent
OFFICIAL REQUEST regarding Windows'95 drivers for Ultrasound as well as about Ultrasound
Interwave (Some of you know about it). Here is a text of the GRAVIS OFFICIAL ANSWER, received by fax (11,October,95).
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
This is a message to our customers about Advanced Gravis and Windows 95 drivers for the UltraSound family of wavetable sound
cards. We want to clarify what the situation is today and what you can expect in the future.
We announced a first version of full 32-bit, Windows'95 specific drivers in September. Although these drivers were created, they
were not of sufficient quality to release and are being reworked.

Our current schedule is as follows. On Dec.22, we will release Windows'95 compitable driver for the UltraSound. These drivers will
be fully integrated into the Windows'95 interface and will have all the functionality of the current Windows 3.1 drivers.
On January 26, we issue an upgrade which will add "DOS box" functionality.

In the meantime, we wish to remind UltraSound users that the currently available drivers (for Windows 3.1) will work under
Windows'95. They can be installed in the usual way in MS-DOS mode through the start/Shutdown..menu option.

We appreciate the support that our customers have shown for UltraSound, particulary through the Internet and the Commercial
On-line Services.
                  Michael Cooper,
                  President & CEO
                  Advanced Gravis.
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2. Regarding Ultrasound Interwave -it should be available at the end of November and will be compitable with Plug-N-Play
technology of Microsoft.
3. Gravis tech support sites are:
[e-mail] or [e-mail]

Best regards,
         Evgueni Lemberg,
MICRODATA-distributor of Advanced Gravis in Ukraine.






------------------------------

From: Dewi Daniels <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 08:46:29 BST
Subject: Re: sb 16 value ed.

> >My money would be on a Soundblaster 16 (not the value edition) and a wavetable
> >daughterboard such as the Roland SCD-10.
>
> just out of curiosity, what is wrong/missing/different about the sb16 value
> edition?

The value edition doesn't allow you to connect a wavetable daughterboard. The
value edition is a lot cheaper than the full edition, but I reasoned that
anyone considering a GUS wouldn't be satisfied with the sound quality of FM
synthesis.

Dewi Daniels

------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (David JΣrlestedt)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:21:23 +0100
Subject: Newsgroup for GUS?

Wouldn't it be a great idea to create a newsgroup for GUS-related questions?
As it is right now, people with GUS has to post to
comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.misc etc. But I really think a GUS-ONLY newsgroup
could be needed. As I don't know much about creating new groups, I'm just
hoping someone else with the proper knowledge, also thinks this is a good idea.

There could be 2 parallel groups named, comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus and
comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus.game, so we keep all gamerelated problems out
of the "normal" group.

Anyone else that thinks this is a good idea?

cheers,

David


------------------------------

From: "Dale Newcomb, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:38:51 -0700
Subject: STTNG: A Final Unity

I am still not getting any sound from STTNG: A Final Unity can someone
help me out here? My message to Gravis never got answered (gee surprise)
and my call to Spectrum Holobyte ended with "get new drivers from Gravis."
So I got the latest drivers off thew ftp sites (it's been about a month so
I can't remember what version it was, but it was the one that everyone told
me to get) and installed them (under Win95 if it matters) and tried to run
the game by booting into my old DOS 6.2 using the F4 bootup sequence and
running the game setup. When I do a sound test, I get no "Make it so". I have
tried different emulation modes (although the game says it supports the GUS)
and the only thing I could get was once with SBOS emulation I got the
"Make it so" clip running at about 1/2 speed or slower, but couldn't get it
to happen again. Anyone know what the hell I should do?

- -Dale

PS: Info on my system... Original GUS rev 2.1 with 1M RAM running on
i486DX4-100
with 8M RAM with Win95 final release. I've had little to no conflicts with my
GUS for the 3 years I've owned it and it is functioning normally with all my
other software.


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***                                                       ********
****  Dale E. Newcomb, Jr.    Gemini Technology Corp.      *******
*****  Phone: [phone]   Toll Free: [phone]    ******
******  FAX: [phone]     E-mail: [e-mail]  *****
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From: [e-mail] (Pechacek Ivan)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:39:15 +0000 (WET)
Subject: Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.

Hi gusers !

I have got a mainboard AsusTek with AWARD bios a two weeks ago. I was very
unhappy when I found problems with sound on my GUS (rev3.7). Somewere I have
read that this board have conflict with NMI. I also tested on my computer
(AMD486DX4/100 Mhz,8Mb RAM,CDROM) Soundblaster AWE32 Value Edit. and this
soundcard also had a problems like noplaying sound (always crashed my
computer) or It has a conflict with a grafic card. I'dont know how or what I
have to do for removing this problem. (motherboard is NOT possible to change)
I will be grateful for any advice to solution of this problem.

                            Ivan Pechacek
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mail respond to : [e-mail]
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: Cuthalion / Sliced Bread <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:09:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup for GUS?

On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, David J=E4rlestedt wrote:

> Wouldn't it be a great idea to create a newsgroup for GUS-related questio=
ns?
> As it is right now, people with GUS has to post to=20
> comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.misc etc. But I really think a GUS-ONLY newsgr=
oup=20
> could be needed. As I don't know much about creating new groups, I'm just=
=20
> hoping someone else with the proper knowledge, also thinks this is a good=
 idea.=20
>=20
> There could be 2 parallel groups named, comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus an=
d=20
> comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus.game, so we keep all gamerelated problems =
out=20
> of the "normal" group.=20
>=20
> Anyone else that thinks this is a good idea?

=09Long ago there was a comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundscards newsgroup.  Some=20
people were happy, many were not, for the group was quite a behemoth=20
indeed, with Too Many messages every day.   So, people said "Hey!  A lot=20
of this traffic is from GUSsers!  Let's make a GUS newsgroup."  However,=20
the general consensus what that this was a Bad Idea (though, it was not=20
an overwhelming majority), and that a newsgroup seperation based upon a=20
philosophy of dividing the groups by topic rather than by each individual=
=20
product would be in the best interest of most people involved, and would=20
also be a solution with more long-term stability (Individual cards come=20
and go...).  Anyway, the point is that this has been thought of before=20
and discussed before and decided against before, and those of us who=20
remember that would rather not go through it again.

/***********************************************************************
* Jesse Morris * [e-mail] * [e-mail] *
****************   Cuthalion / Sliced Bread    *************************
              \*********************************/


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 15:30:15 +0100
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V24 #2

>From: Marcel Wilders <[e-mail]>
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:38:01 +0100
>Subject: GUSMAX no sound in windows, need help
>
>Problem:            No sound in windows, only under DOS
>        Insufficient support from Tech Gravis
>
>Background:
>
>At the 17th of last july I did send the following email to [e-mail]:
>
>I used the MAX 512Kb board satisfactory for one year. All of a sudden no
>sound in windows any more. I couldn't detect the problem and decided to
>upgrade to the newest Gravis software. I did install GUS411.zip and
>installed mega304b.zip on top of it. No problems with the installation
>procedures appeared. However still no sound in windows.
>
>When I start the Ultrasound Mixer in windows the following error messages
>appear:
>
>- -       no wave output devices;
>- -       no midi output devices;
>- -       no aux output devices
>        cannot determine Ultrasound type;
>- -       Ultrasound driver not present
>
>Activating "Ultrasound Configuration" from windows let's me know:
>
>- -       Gravis Ultrasound driver version 5.51
>
>This gives me the impression that some software configuration is wrong.
>Question is: what could be the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>Til this moment I didn't receive a good solution for the problem, although I
>also posted this message in a few newsgroups concerning soundcards.
>
>After half a year of struggling I hope someone_can_lead_me_to_a_solution.
>
>- ->->->->->------->
>
>What I tried so far:
>Form [e-mail] I received the following reply at the 19th of july
>(quit fast):
>
>I tried rerunning the setup program from the Ultrasnd directory and
>have it update windows. It didn't work.
>
>........
>I tried  running the setup program from the Ultrasound directive to update
>windows: => no result
>I tried it with removing ultrasnd.drv: => no result.
>I deleted all references to the Max. in my  Autoexec.bat and Config.sys and
>did a setup again => same problems
>I removed even  ALL references I could find to the Max on my whole system
>and again did run setup => same problems
>In addition I first removed de Ultrasound drivers in the Windows Control
>panel => no effect
>After the above strategies, I removed the whole Ultrasound directive and
>performed a clean installation with the 3.59 software, the 4.11 patch => the
>installation went without any problems. The selftesting was o.k. However
>still no sound in windows.
>
>Always I get those messages about:
>
>- -       no wave output devices;
>- -       no midi output devices;
>- -       no aux output devices
>        cannot determine Ultrasound type;
>- -       Ultrasound driver not present
>
>And allways it appears impossible to configure Ultra Wave and Midi Synth. It
>allways results in a system halt. Only rebooting will help at that moment.
>
>Please help me with this mess. It really gets me mad. !!!!
>
>Marcel Wilders
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>Marcel Wilders,     Federatie Nederlandse Vakbeweging FNV
>Afdeling Arbeid, Sectie Arbeidsomstandigheden
>Postbus 8456  -  1005 AL Amsterdam  -   Nederland
>fax: [phone] -  voice +31.20.5816497
>FNV-WWW-homepage URL: http://www.fnv.nl
>E-mail: [e-mail]  (werk)  [e-mail] (prive)

Hey Marcel,

It seems that the problem you describe is not a problem with your card, givin
the fact that everything still works in dos. From your list of things you tried
I noticed that you haven't tried the obvious thing; reinstalling windows. You
can simply rename your current windows directory to something else, and then
reinstall a new (vey) basic windows copy. Install the gravis drivers to this
copy of windows and see if it works. If it does work than something is wrong
with your (old) windows setup which is not very unlikely.. After all Microsoft
build it..

Good luck

[e-mail]

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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:46:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup for GUS?

On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, David J=E4rlestedt wrote:

> Wouldn't it be a great idea to create a newsgroup for GUS-related questio=
ns?
> As it is right now, people with GUS has to post to=20
> comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.misc etc. But I really think a GUS-ONLY newsgr=
oup=20
> could be needed. As I don't know much about creating new groups, I'm just=
=20
> hoping someone else with the proper knowledge, also thinks this is a good=
 idea.=20
>=20
> There could be 2 parallel groups named, comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus an=
d=20
> comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus.game, so we keep all gamerelated problems =
out=20
> of the "normal" group.=20
>=20
> Anyone else that thinks this is a good idea?

=09There used to be one but I don't know what happened to it.  But=20
if there is one then there would need to be one for every different=20
soundcard on the market and then all the news servers will all be needing=
=20
a upgrade in the storage capacity of the news spool due to the extra=20
newsgroups.

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.)
Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors
Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free!
Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan Fan Club Mailiing Lists Admin


------------------------------

From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:30:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.

On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Pechacek Ivan wrote:

Hi everyone!

> I have got a mainboard AsusTek with AWARD bios a two weeks ago. I was very
> unhappy when I found problems with sound on my GUS (rev3.7). Somewere I have
> read that this board have conflict with NMI. I also tested on my computer
> (AMD486DX4/100 Mhz,8Mb RAM,CDROM) Soundblaster AWE32 Value Edit. and this
> soundcard also had a problems like noplaying sound (always crashed my
> computer) or It has a conflict with a grafic card. I'dont know how or what I
> have to do for removing this problem. (motherboard is NOT possible to change)
> I will be grateful for any advice to solution of this problem.

    Which ASUS Motherboard do you have exactly?  I have used both the
ASUS P55TP4XE and the P54TP4 motherboards and these are all based on the
Intel Triton chipset with a P5-90 CPU and don't have NMI and worked fine
with both my GUS and the GUSMax.  So let me know of what your setup is
exactly...  Also, in the AWARD Bios, you should do the Plug N' Play setup
to mark yes for all the IRQ's and DMA's you are using for the GUS as well
as anything else.

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.)
Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors
Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free!
Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan Fan Club Mailiing Lists Admin


------------------------------

From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:33:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup for GUS?

On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Cuthalion / Sliced Bread wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, David J=E4rlestedt wrote:
>=20
> > Wouldn't it be a great idea to create a newsgroup for GUS-related quest=
ions?
> > As it is right now, people with GUS has to post to=20
> > comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.misc etc. But I really think a GUS-ONLY news=
group=20
> > could be needed. As I don't know much about creating new groups, I'm ju=
st=20
> > hoping someone else with the proper knowledge, also thinks this is a go=
od idea.=20
> >=20
> > There could be 2 parallel groups named, comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus =
and=20
> > comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundcards.gus.game, so we keep all gamerelated problem=
s out=20
> > of the "normal" group.=20
> >=20
> > Anyone else that thinks this is a good idea?
>=20
> =09Long ago there was a comp.sys.ibm-pc.soundscards newsgroup.  Some=20
> people were happy, many were not, for the group was quite a behemoth=20
> indeed, with Too Many messages every day.   So, people said "Hey!  A lot=
=20
> of this traffic is from GUSsers!  Let's make a GUS newsgroup."  However,=
=20
> the general consensus what that this was a Bad Idea (though, it was not=
=20
> an overwhelming majority), and that a newsgroup seperation based upon a=
=20
> philosophy of dividing the groups by topic rather than by each individual=
=20
> product would be in the best interest of most people involved, and would=
=20
> also be a solution with more long-term stability (Individual cards come=
=20
> and go...).  Anyway, the point is that this has been thought of before=20
> and discussed before and decided against before, and those of us who=20
> remember that would rather not go through it again.

=09That is true since like if there was a group for one soundcard,=20
then there would need to be one for every other soundcard on the market=20
and that would mean that there will be alot more demanding requirements=20
for the news servers but the way it is now seems to be serving its purpose.

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.)
Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors
Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free!
Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan Fan Club Mailiing Lists Admin


------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Thomas Weber)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 23:18:00 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: Problems with ASUS Tek mainboard.

Hi all,

> I have got a mainboard AsusTek with AWARD bios a two weeks ago. I was very

What Asus board is it exactly? There are many different. I've got an
Asus SP3G (PCI, IDE and NCR SCSI on board), and i don't have any problems
with my GUS MAX.
BTW, the SP3G is one of the most stablest and best designed 486 PCI boards you
can buy. And unless it's broken, it's not the fault of the board.
Maybe you have DMA, Interrupt or IO conflicts.

> unhappy when I found problems with sound on my GUS (rev3.7). Somewere I have
> read that this board have conflict with NMI. I also tested on my computer

NMI works though it doesn't support parity checking of the RAM (pretty useless
on PCs anyway). But I don't know anything for sure about the other Asus boards.

tschau,
  Tom
- --
i feel like a falling leaf / departed from my source of life
dipping into the ground    / to become one with the earth
todessehnsucht - wo bleibt die gerechtigkeit?     -atrocity-

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From: ASHLEY <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:34:52 -0800
Subject: Re: ATTN guy who had GUS for sale

Subj:    ATTN guy who had GUS for sale

>Could the guy who said he had several GUS 2.4's for sale for $30 please
>send me the message?  I seem to have deleted that digest....(arghhhh!)
- --
that would be me :)
as far as I can tell, the 2.4 GUS will do everything the ACE will do and more,
but not as much as the MAX in Dos mode (pmode megaem).

Ashley parish    [e-mail]
  ,___
    o/   |> .....mind if I play through?     !:callsign=KE6SUU
    |    |                                   !:talk on 147.885(BARC) in OC
    >\   |

------------------------------

From: Yoshiaki KASAHARA <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 12:21:21 +0900
Subject: Re: Revision 2 / GUS Windows / Motherboards & cd-rom DMA / NT

On Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:36:55 +0000 (GMT),
    Sam <[e-mail]> said:

> Just one point to add; if you buy a MAX or ACE, you can be sure they're
> revision 3. If you are tempted to buy a GUS (second-hand for instance)

How can I see the revision of my GUS MAX ?

- --
Yoshiaki KASAHARA
Dept. of Comp. Sci. and Comm. Eng., Kyushu Univ., Fukuoka, Japan

------------------------------

From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 22:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Revision 2 / GUS Windows / Motherboards & cd-rom DMA / NT

On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Yoshiaki KASAHARA wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:36:55 +0000 (GMT),
>     Sam <[e-mail]> said:
>
> > Just one point to add; if you buy a MAX or ACE, you can be sure they're
> > revision 3. If you are tempted to buy a GUS (second-hand for instance)
>
> How can I see the revision of my GUS MAX ?

    Look on your GUS Max board where it says the name of the card...

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.)
Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors
Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free!
Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan Fan Club Mailiing Lists Admin


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