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From: micro@ever.tenet.odessa.ua (Micro)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 16:22:55 +0300 (UKD)
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Subject: RE: GUs & CDROM
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> had assumed that slapping a CD-ROM onto my GUS MAX would be a piece of
>cake but was to be proven wrong!
>
>First mistake: Throwing out my manuals ("I'll not need them, they're just
>taking up space!" - doh!)
>
>Second mistake: Buying the thing mail order and not asking enough about the
>stupid thing. It says CR562-B but its unbranded, so I don't know if its a
>cloned Pansonic or Sony.
>
>Third mistake: Well, just a problem, not a mistake. The setup disk isn't a
>"proper" Windoze oemsetup.inf-style setup, so getting working thru' 95 is
>proving difficult...
>
>Oh yeah! And why can't I seemed to connect to www.gravis.com??
>[deleted ]
Hi Jez,
First of all, I think it's better to keep manuals.
If I understood correctly, the model, which mades problems to you is Panasonic (Matsushita) compitable (CR-562-B is nearly same,
as usual Panasonic style of CD-ROM's names). In this case, to connect CDROM to other controller, than standart (in your case to
Ultrasound Max controller of CD-Rom) you must change manually one string at your CONFIG.SYS file.
Open it with any simple text editor or sysedit.exe program in Windows and look for a string, looking something like this:
DEVICE=C:\CDROMDRV\CDMKE44.SYS /D:LASERWAV /P:360
If you will find it, you must add at the end of the string next characters /N:1. Your string will be like following:
The N key telling to driver of Panasonic CD-ROM, that CD-ROM drive is attached to other controller.
Of course, it will work ,if you have Panasonic (Matsushita) compitable CD-ROM drive and/or driver. So, be careful, because
all possible troubles or breaches will be on your own.
About WIN'95...After this changes, try Add New Hardware Wizard another time.
Hope, my assistance will be useful to You.
Evgueni Lemberg,
micro@ever.tenet.odessa.ua
MICRODATA-distributor of Advanced Gravis products in Ukraine.
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From: micro@ever.tenet.odessa.ua (Micro)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:46:54 +0200 (UKR)
Subject: Re: What do the MAX and ACE cards have that plain GUS hasn't?
>I'm planning to buy a soundcard... and Gravis' cards look
>interesting... I've read the description of the GUS in the GUS FAQ. But
....
>haven't found a description of Gravis' two other cards, the GUS Max and the
>GUS Ace.
...
>Also... Any bad thigs/good things to say about the GUS? How much trouble
>is it to get a GUS card ans Windows 95 to talk to each other? And if I'm
>not in too much of a hurry to get a soundcard, is it worth it to wait a few
>months? (i.e. are there any hot new cards planned for Christmas season by
>Gravis/other folks?)
Dear Christian,
First of all, I think GUS is a good choice (nearly all of usat this digest made same choice) due it's perfect sound quality and very
reasonable price. Of course, it may be possible (or not) to find at the market something more advanced, but usually with double price.
Please, note, Gravis already not manufactures standartUltrasound, and You should choose between Ultrasound Max and Ace.
I'm using Ultrasound Max, which has full option of wavetable card, 32 voices, 16 stereo channels, 3D focal point compatibilty (even
now they don't put this on the boxes, due the end of licence agreement with Forte -owner of focal point process, the algorithm is
still inside their card), controllers for 3 types of CD-ROM (Sony, Mistsumi, Panasonic), 512 Kb of memory (upgadeable up to 1Mb),
support for some codecs, 16-bit stereo recording, MIDI-interface, and so on (I cannot put everything here, but information is available
through many sources, for example, Ultrasound Experience CD, which you shoul get from Advanced Gravis or, maybe, in some computers
shops -price is ~10 USD).
GUS Ace - is special add-on card for users of FM sound cards (Sound blaster family and compitables, Adlib compitables) to have wavetable
sound. I never had one, but as I know, this card is many time sinplier, then Ultrasound Max (no joystick port, no CD controllers, some recording options are
not available, and if you have not a lot of empty slots in your computer -it is not a good choice).
Advanced Gravis promised to make available for purchasing at the end of the November of a new soundcard -Ultrasound Interwave, which should be
a Plug-n-play compitable. Interwave chip is made in co-operation of AMD and Gravis, it should be GF compitable (GF is Gravis's processor) as well,as
Sound blaster compitable. Sorry, I have not more information about it.
Bad for GUS -they are compitable with Sound blaster only through software emulation, as SBOS,emuset,ultramid. It is not a very big problem, because it
covering by supreme sound, but...sometimes should be a problem (especially with memory hanrgy games). I never found a problem in compatibility
with Windows Sound system. Regarding Win'95 -check the digest.
Hope, my info was useful to you,
E.Lemberg
MICRODATA-distributor of Advanced Gravis in Ukraine (micro@ever.tenet.odessa.ua)
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From: Dewi Daniels <tcsddz@aie.lreg.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 13:04:00 BST
Subject: Re: What do the MAX and ACE cards have that plain GUS hasn't?
> I'm planning to buy a soundcard in the coming months and Gravis' cards look
> interesting... I've read the description of the GUS in the GUS FAQ. But
> I've looked everywhere (FAQ, WWW pages about the GUS, etc.) and I still
> haven't found a description of Gravis' two other cards, the GUS Max and the
> GUS Ace.
>
> So.... Could someone be kind enough to post here (or e-mail me) a
> description of the two cards mentionned above? What do they have the the
> plain GUS doesn't have?
The GUS Max has 16-bit recording and a CD-ROM interface built-in. It has
512kb RAM (expandable to 1Mb). It has better Soundblaster emulation, because
of its built-in codec.
The GUS has 8-bit recording. It has 256kb of RAM (expandable to 1Mb).
Daughterboards are available to add 16-bit recording and a CD-ROM interface.
The GUS ACE is a replay-only card, lacking the recording facilities of the
GUS and GUS Max.
I'd suggest a Soundblaster card is an almost-essential accessory for a GUS.
8-bit Soundblaster clones are now cheap, and are much less troublesome
than the software Soundblaster emulation provided with the GUS.
The upgrade to 1Mb RAM is also well worthwhile. Native GUS applications and
Roland emulation all sound better with 1Mb.
> Also... Any bad thigs/good things to say about the GUS? How much trouble
> is it to get a GUS card ans Windows 95 to talk to each other? And if I'm
> not in too much of a hurry to get a soundcard, is it worth it to wait a few
> months? (i.e. are there any hot new cards planned for Christmas season by
> Gravis/other folks?) Any information that would help me make my decision
> would be much appreciated...
I'm not sure that I'd recommend Gravis any more. Their technical support has
been steadily going downhill. There's no GUS driver for Windows 95 yet.
My money would be on a Soundblaster 16 (not the value edition) and a wavetable
daughterboard such as the Roland SCD-10. This would give you trouble-free
Soundblaster and GM support for not much more than the price of a GUS Max or
an AWE-32.
If you're feeling rich, you could add a GUS ACE to the SB16/Roland combo.
The games that have native GUS support (e.g. Doom, Descent) do sound a whole
lot better with a GUS than with an SB16 or an AWE-32.
The ultimate setup would be a Soundblaster AWE-32, GUS Max, Roland RAP-10,
and a Roland MT-32. Believe it or not, they'll all coexist in the same PC.
Hope this is of some help,
Dewi Daniels
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From: Daniel Bateman <batemand@dasher.buck.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 11:07:34 -0400
Subject: MegaEM and Win95
Hi all,
Has anyone gotten MegaEM to run in a DOS windows in Win95? It keeps saying
I need a 386 or better processor, when of course I do. It would be nice to
get MIDI music in MOM instead of horrible SBPro FM music.
Glad to see the digest back. I thought I had been unsubscribed and was
just too busy to try to subscribe again!
- -=-
Dan
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From: Marcel Wilders <marcelwi@xs4all.nl>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 15:38:01 +0100
Subject: GUSMAX no sound in windows, need help
Problem: No sound in windows, only under DOS
Insufficient support from Tech Gravis
Background:
At the 17th of last july I did send the following email to tech@gravis.com:
I used the MAX 512Kb board satisfactory for one year. All of a sudden no
sound in windows any more. I couldn't detect the problem and decided to
upgrade to the newest Gravis software. I did install GUS411.zip and
installed mega304b.zip on top of it. No problems with the installation
procedures appeared. However still no sound in windows.
When I start the Ultrasound Mixer in windows the following error messages
appear:
- - no wave output devices;
- - no midi output devices;
- - no aux output devices
cannot determine Ultrasound type;
- - Ultrasound driver not present
Activating "Ultrasound Configuration" from windows let's me know:
- - Gravis Ultrasound driver version 5.51
This gives me the impression that some software configuration is wrong.
Question is: what could be the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Til this moment I didn't receive a good solution for the problem, although I
also posted this message in a few newsgroups concerning soundcards.
After half a year of struggling I hope someone_can_lead_me_to_a_solution.
- ->->->->->------->
What I tried so far:
Form tech@gravis.com I received the following reply at the 19th of july
(quit fast):
I tried rerunning the setup program from the Ultrasnd directory and
have it update windows. It didn't work.
........
I tried running the setup program from the Ultrasound directive to update
windows: => no result
I tried it with removing ultrasnd.drv: => no result.
I deleted all references to the Max. in my Autoexec.bat and Config.sys and
did a setup again => same problems
I removed even ALL references I could find to the Max on my whole system
and again did run setup => same problems
In addition I first removed de Ultrasound drivers in the Windows Control
panel => no effect
After the above strategies, I removed the whole Ultrasound directive and
performed a clean installation with the 3.59 software, the 4.11 patch => the
installation went without any problems. The selftesting was o.k. However
still no sound in windows.
Always I get those messages about:
- - no wave output devices;
- - no midi output devices;
- - no aux output devices
cannot determine Ultrasound type;
- - Ultrasound driver not present
And allways it appears impossible to configure Ultra Wave and Midi Synth. It
allways results in a system halt. Only rebooting will help at that moment.
Please help me with this mess. It really gets me mad. !!!!
