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The GUS Daily Digest       Thursday, 8 June 1995       Volume 22 : Number 037

Today's Topics:
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36
    Gus, OS/2 and dos4gw.. (speed up descent & doom)
    Re: Shitty digest and dumb returning
    Yeah, right
    OS2 Warp
    Re: Shitty digest and dumb returning
    NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS
    KaraDos 1.6 and Ultramid
    NMI and why it used....
    Re: Win95 and Support for ANYTHING
    Re: A good set of Patches...
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36
    System Shock Demo and GUS?
    Re: A good set of Patches...
    Interwave compatibility..
    Re: NMI , win95/nt drivers, AMD
    Something screwed up...
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36
    TV tip
    Re: Gus Experience CD.
    Using GUS on FreeBSD.
    Re: Vince! Fix digest automated stuff!
    Re: Vince's Prob's and onother guy's
    Re: NMI and why it used....
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36
    Re: Something screwed up...
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36

Standard Info:
    - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
    - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Peter ORR)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:07:34 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36

>
> From: "Rich" <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:28:34 +0000
> Subject: NMI being phased out
>
> I too have a motherboard with no NMI procedure on it. (Supermicro
> Pentium 100). I also have been having some problems getting certain
> games to run. Can someone please explain why NMI is needed for SB
> support?? I thought the NMI is for checking RAM parity. I don't see
> what that has to do with sound card compatability. One little side
> note. Has anyone out the succesfully installed OS2/WARP on one of the
> Motherboards without NMI. I have tried for over 2 weeks, but when I
> get to a certain point in the install routine, my machine just simply
> reboots with no warnings or error messages. Kinda stange, huh??

I also have a motherboard (Pentium 90) with no NMI. The interrupt is
required for both SBOS and the latest MegaEm, as there is no other way to
do software emulation according to the guy who wrote it (jayeson@gravis).
It's no-one's fault really, just unfortunate. {I'm upgrading to a hardware
GMIDI compatible card to put on my SB16}.

As for warp, it installed just fine on my non-NMI machine, so I don't think
that has anything to do with it. {Mind you, I deleted it two days later after
deciding it was an incompatible piece of junk; the Ultrasound and OS/2 Warp
really deserve each other}

..Richard



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From: Sam <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:39:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36

> Can someone say me the GUS Card Feature?
> I have a Sound Blaster 16 :(
> and I would like to ear real-multi-track modules.

OK, GUS has 16-bit mixing of 8 or 16-bit samples (so even 8-bit samples
sound better than on an 8-bit soundcard when they are played at different
pitches).

GUS can mix 14 channels at 44.1 kHz, gradually dropping down to only 19
kHz at 32 channels. (i.e. stick with about 20 channels, ok!)

Midi, etc works the same as your sb16. However, GUS (original) only has
8-bit recording although it has 16-bit playback.

GUS MAX has 16-bit recording and also a codec chip (for playing
compressed samples, recording up to 48 kHz, etc) and cd-rom interfaces

GUS ACE has no recording at all, no joystick/midi, no codec and is
otherwise the same as GUS MAX. Designed to run alongside another
soundcard like that SB16.

If you get an original GUS, check the revision number, because there are
2.x and 3.x; the 3.x have very important new features affecting General
Midi emulation, although these do not make any difference to the native mode.

> games to run. Can someone please explain why NMI is needed for SB
> support?? I thought the NMI is for checking RAM parity. I don't see
> what that has to do with sound card compatability. One little side

NMI is required. Think of the name "Non-Maskable Interrupt". The point
is, games can mask (i.e. stop) all the OTHER interrupts. It's only an
actual hardware NMI that can break into anything, even protected mode
software.

2.x GUS only has hardware NMI on SB port, which is why protected mode
games don't work with MegaEm. 3.x has NMI on SB as well as GM ports.

I hope AMD have thought of some other way to emulate GM / SB (don't know
what - hardware compat. is unlikely, since it's a 1-chip solution, usually
FM is done with a separate Yamaha chip) but maybe they're just figuring
Win95 etc will make emulation unnecessary in the future.

> the last daily digest was kinda adventure book by size or what?

it was screwed up. Some guy's mailbox is full, or something, and that
means the whole digest from last time got reposted? I think it's fixed.

As for music or programmers digests, hmmm, if there's no posts I might be
able to afford the time to read te programmers one ;)

> straightforward but the software supplied (Windows) does not seem to
> recognise the GUS MIDI driver properly. I can configure it OK but there
> is no sound. Although I have managed to get it to work, some of the time.

Try loading gus1024.bnk or whatever it's called - I think in Midi Mapper
- - which pre-loads the GUS with some patches.

> conference on CI$ where they offer assistance, updates, etc. I am not on
> that system. Can I access it via the Internet?

No.

> Are there any MIDI files that actually sound like the music we listen to,
> pop chart music for example. The stuff I have heard is so bland and

No, probably general midi is just crap :) actually, I think you should
easily be able to find some versions of chart music floating around on
the sites with MIDI files. (illegal, but then...)

[NMI]

> I doubt that.  Seems to me that the final result would more likely be
> the death of the GUS.

No, probably the final result is it doesn't matter as Win95 and/or OS/2
both will have good game support (neither is released yet) including
direct native soundcard support, so games will be written for this system.

Lot of DOS games coming out still, but check rec.games.programmer to see
how many of the big companies (EA inc Origin, Sierra, etc) are moving to
Win95.

> digest.  If not, I will say "no."  Also, it would be great if you can
> write a stripper/truncator/mail bounce backer/rejector on posts greater
> than, say 50 lines long.  I think that's a reasonable amount of space to work

hmmm.. *looks at this post*... well, maybe...

[IW]: I've heard all about its Win95 support, but what about WinNT and OS/2?

After what happened with GUS? Don't hold your breath.

Sam (going WAY over the 50 lines, but I hope this is useful to some people)

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From: "Bjarni R. Einarsson" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:44:13 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Gus, OS/2 and dos4gw.. (speed up descent & doom)

Hello Gussers :)

A few weeks back somebody mentioned the PmodeW replacement for the
DOS4GW stub for programs like Doom and Descent.  Last night I finally
got around to testing it, and I thought I'd share my experiences.

PmodeW dramatically increases game speed under OS/2 WARP.  I highly
recommend using it if you are currently booting DOS just to play Doom
or Descent....

Unfortunately it didn't (hasn't yet?) solve the GUS trouble with
Doom under OS/2 (it made it worse, before I got music only, now I
get nothing).  And for some STRANGE reason it kills my mouse with
Descent.  (Help?)

Other OS/2 + GUS + Game speed trickes I've discovered:

    + Install the GUS sound drivers - this seems to reduce the delay
      caused by the GUS generating interrupts for the games.  Speed
      increases noticably with Descent.  (I'm testing the Manley ones
      at the moment)

    + Do NOT enable HW_TIMER unless games really need it - more than
      one game I've tried has sped up ALOT when I set this to OFF.
      Also this means that games and DOS programs multitask more
      nicely together.


And some questions:  :-)

Can anyone tell me what happens if I 'change' the GUS interrupts/DMA
channels from within a DOS box under OS/2?  I do this by resetting the
ULTRASND variable, and then calling Ultrinit.   Does it really change
things, or does the driver just fake it?

How do I fix my mouse+PmodeW problem (it dies with Descent, but works
fine with Doom)?


Thanks, and enjoy!


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From: Jani Mattsson <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 13:20:41 +0300
Subject: Re: Shitty digest and dumb returning

>It sucks !!!!alot!!!! when idiots like "we all know who" can't empty his
>mailbox so that his mailer daemon returns the complete fucking digest. I
>don't wanna read yesterdays digest in todays. Either something has to be

    What about having an upper limit for the number of lines
    a posting to this digest can have, let's say a maximum of 200
    lines? Postings longer than this would be rejected, as the
    back-bounced digests usually are longer than this, they wouldn't
    end up in the next digest.

    Or perhaps some check that scans the incoming posting for a
    string like "returned mail" or some string that appears in the
    standard footer of these digests, and if found, the posting would
    be rejected.


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From: Chronologically sick and abused and happy <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 07:23:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Yeah, right

> T>It has been said in the digest that Gravis is going to release a T>a
> sound card based in the Interwave chip from AMD around T>September. Is it
> true?.  It could be true, but I don't know...I guess we'll just have to
> wait.

    Yeah, wait for the software drivers. I was one of the first GUS owners-
short of their joysticks, I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER GRAVIS PRODUCT AGAIN. That's
because of the crap lies about supporting non-DOS OSs, the 'protected mode'
(yeah, right) SBOS (er, Megaem) and that goddamn RING0 Win 3.11 driver.

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From: Ladislav Burkovsky <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:25:14 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: OS2 Warp

    Hello GUSsers, give me please more info about working with GUS
MAX under OS2 Warp.
                        Thank, Burko

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From: Bryan Maher <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 09:04:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Shitty digest and dumb returning

Hey EmilR,

>Either something has to be done about the digest and how it handles mail, or
>silvert has to be kicked out. This is the second time it happens,
>and I wont accept it again.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

who died and left you god?  How old did you say you were ... 12?

Satan.

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From: Chronologically sick and abused and happy <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 07:33:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS

>Since SBOS (and the new Megaem??) require the NMI, the GUS will soon no longer
>be able to bill itself as Sound Blaster compatible.
>The final result? It is even more critical the the GUS get native support in
al
l
>new games.

>I doubt that.  Seems to me that the final result would more likely be
>the death of the GUS.

    No, just the death of OS's like Unix, NT, and OS/2. I think it'd be a
real surprise if NMI went down. You can't multitask on an Intel processor
without it.

Jeff

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From: cocatri1@AGL_VX (Jean-Pierre Cocatrix)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 95 16:06:50 +0200
Subject: KaraDos 1.6 and Ultramid

Hi all,

I wondered whether you experienced some problems with KaraDos (kardp16.zip)
and Ultramid -16 ?
It seems that the 16 bits version is a little bugged (or may be KaraDos
itself).

- -----------------------------------------  [e-mail]  --
  KaraDos It's Magic            |   file kardpxx.zip  with xx:version
  Karaoke Midi Player for Dos   |   archive.epas.utoronto.ca /pub/pc/ultrasound
- ------------------------------------------ Jean-Pierre Cocatrix  ---------------


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From: Chris McKillop <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:27:32 -0400
Subject: NMI and why it used....

Hello...

    Some one asked about NMI and why it being used...well, it
is ued because you cannot "mask" the interupt.  Therefore, the emulator
(or whatever) can keep running no matter what the game does to take
over the computer (well, in theory anyways).  That way the emultor
can run and the game won't mess it up...

    Has anyone tried installed Win95 on a computer without NMI???
It wouldn't supprise me in the least if you had problems...and you
won't be able to use MIDI either, since it uses NMI in Windows....NMI
is part of the spec and only added about $25 bcuks to the cost of
my new Pentium, so as far as I am concerend, thoses with NMIless
motherboards have cheap computers...

    Chris


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From: "Jason I. Goldovitz" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:40:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Win95 and Support for ANYTHING

Hello GUSers,

    I've said this a dozen times, and I'll say it again. If you
want ANYTHING written for DOS to run under Win95, then you are going
to have to do a "boot to dos". You CAN'T get it to run in a window.
Maybe you could fool around and get it to work, but WHY BOTHER? Do you
really need to have something else going on in the background while
playing a game? NO! Think about it... if Doom2 is pushing the limits
of your computer as it is, do you really want to try to run something
else at the same time, on the same screen? Please, people, let's end
this incessant "How do I get my GUS to run X-Wing in a DOS window on
Win95?" parade. I'm sick of it and so are the people concerned with
getting some REAL GUS INFORMATION.

                - Jason ([e-mail])

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From: Sinclair Shuit <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:27:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: A good set of Patches...

This is to the fellow who wanted to know if anyone has put together a
good set of patches.

    I have upgraded my GUS patches from sundry sources over the last
3 years or so, cannibalizing many home-brew patches, and some pro-pats,
etc. I can't even remember how many damn patches I have updated or where
they are all from. If there is demand, I will backup my entire patch
collection, and upload it to epas..... Anyone interested?...

PS some of my patches still stink, but I can't justify searching the
earth for a good tango accordion. ;)

Sink


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From: [e-mail] (jim halliday)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 16:18:05 GMT
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36

Has anybody else had any problems with the new Megaems (V3)?

V3.03B gave music with magic carpet, but no SB sound.
V3.04B which was supposed to support MC SB sound still doesn't and the midi
       is now broken up with intruments being played at random as well as
       the normal midi (don't sound too good).

I've got the GUS IRQ as 3 (yes I have dissabled the com port) and the midi
as IRQ 5 both have the address 220.
When running megaem I choose 330 for the General Midi Port.
When running Magic Carpet I choose General midi port 330 and SoundBlaster IRQ
5 base 220. It doesn't work.
To see if I'd messed up a setting I ran my old copy of Megaem (v2.3) and
ran Sensible Soccer as this is a game I know it works with, worked fine,
both music and FX. Tried the New Megaem and the FX didn't work. Does Megaem
have to be placed in your Ultrasound dir?
This is driving me mad as everybody is raving about how Gravis has (finally)
cracked it, and I'm stuck in an even worse postion than before.
- --
all the best,

 _____
   |
\__/ ames Halliday          ( [e-mail] )

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From: Mark Woon <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:46:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: System Shock Demo and GUS?

Hi everybody.

I know everybody is trying to get GUS to work with Magic Carpet right
now, and so am I, but in the mean time, I'd like to try playing the
System Shock demo with sound fx AND music.  Is this possible?  Is there
a patch?  Thanks.

***********************************************************************
Mark Woon                * I have spoken!
[e-mail]                * ASCII stupid question, get a
WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~markwoon *   stupid ANSI.
***********************************************************************

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From: Mark Woon <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:48:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: A good set of Patches...

Hi,
    if you ever decide to upload it to epas, could you send me a
note?  I'm always interested in trying out new patches...  ;)  Thanks.

***********************************************************************
Mark Woon                * I have spoken!
[e-mail]                * ASCII stupid question, get a
WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~markwoon *   stupid ANSI.
***********************************************************************

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From: [e-mail] (Samuli Niiranen)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 21:42:10 +0300
Subject: Interwave compatibility..

There has been some false info about interwave's compatibility
on this digest.. Here are some facts from AMD docs:

General MIDI MPU-401 API

 "The Interwave General Midi API provides a compact driver [MegaEM?]
 based on a complete set of MPU-401 hardware registers..."

Gravis Ultrasound NATIVE API

 "Gravis pioneered the use of downloadable wavetable synthesizers on sound
  cards.[!] The Interwave IC is backward compatible with the GUS"


Adlib and Sound Blaster EMULATION

"SBOS [argghh!!] is an emulator providing backward compability with software
  written for FM synthesizers and digital audio protocol used on older first-
  and second-generation [SBpro?] sound cards."

 According to the documents Interwave IC has register address traps, adlib
 timers and interrupt generation functions for FM emulation. So the emulation
 is PARTLY hardware.


Windows Sound System API

 "The WSS is the most common Business Audio API. The WSS driver takes
  advantage of the AD1848 register-compatible codec built into the
  Interwave IC"

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From: ASHLEY <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 13:08:53 -0800
Subject: Re: NMI , win95/nt drivers, AMD

>Gavin Scarman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Subject: NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS
>
>With most chipset manufacturers going down the same path as Intel and removing
>parity RAM support on their Pentium Chipsets this leaves the GUS in a poor
>situation for SBOS support.
>I'd be interested to hear if anyone with a recent Pentium MB (eg. P75/90/100),
>has the NMI still enabled.

I don't have a P-- m/b but I do have a recent 486 PCI motherboard. After
putting in some 32 bits (72 pin) SIMMs from a MAC, ie non-parity SIMMs, I was
pleasantly surprised to find that SBOS worked fine.  So I don't think NMI has
to be disabled even if mem parity checking is (disabled). Since the original
posters problem was in windows, not DOS/SBOS, I would expect the problem to be
Windows, not NMI related. Funny though that mb manufacturers would be
discontinuing parity mem support (why not add EMC self correcting memory
support), I hear so many PCers saying how they must get parity memory or they
will be driving without seat belts.

Also on the win driver issue. As I understand it (from the MS win95 class) and
someone else stated, the Win95 native driver spec is the same interface/model
as the win/nt drivers. Its not the same as the VXD interface? (although
vxd's are thunked?). So it would be reasonable to expect (but I'll believe it
when I see it), that if gravis gets the Win95 drivers done (hope they get them
on the MS CD for all GUS owners sakes) that a WIN/NT driver should be forth
coming as a result. This also makes the excuse that the "interface is not fixed
yet/still a beta" less convincing.

the AMD notes posted a while back said they expected to ship production
quantities in Q3, so there should be a number of eval units out by now.
If gravis doesn't put SB emulation in their next (IW) card, (as attributed to
statement by john Smith in yesterdays digest) methinks they will
be making a big mistake, (particularly if IW is capable of it), having all games
under windows is just too far out yet.

my .02 cents.
Ashley parish,     [e-mail]    KE6SUU

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From: "Jurassic Mark" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:05:31 +400
Subject: Something screwed up...

GUS day people,

     Is it me or is the digest really screwed up lately?  First,
there was message talking about a mailbox that is full and the digest
was repeated, then posts were posted twice on the digest, and now I
only received part of the digest.  I'm missing maybe 60% of it.  I'm
talking about yesterday's digest.

     And when I try to post in the digest, I keep on receiving that
message saying that the mailbox is full.  What's the deal?

               Jurassic Mark (Marc Y. Paulin)
Where:   [e-mail]                   IRC: J-Mark
The G-List is alive!!!                  WARPing & GUSsing
How to crash Win95? Write "F 0000:0000 FFFF 66" in debug!
     "The 486 is RISC based!!!!" - someone I know...

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From: Mike Batchelor <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:30:42 -0500 (EDT)
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36

[e-mail] (The GUS Daily Digest)
wrote:
>
> From: "Stephen Thomas Brindle"
> <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:36:48 -0800
> Subject: Re: NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS
>
> >From: Gavin Scarman <[e-mail]>
> >Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 13:57:05 +1030
> >Subject: NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS
>
> >Since SBOS (and the new Megaem??) require the NMI, the GUS will
> soon no longer
> >be able to bill itself as Sound Blaster compatible.
> >The final result? It is even more critical the the GUS get native
> support in all
> >new games.
>
> I doubt that.  Seems to me that the final result would more likely
> be
> the death of the GUS.

It seems to me that in the past year, any game worth getting has had
native GUS support.  Even the latest Origin game supports it (forget
the title, saw it at Best Buys yesterday).  For my tastes anyway, any
game I have heard that supported Blaster-only sounded like crap, even
with a real Blaster.  Sound is a big part of the game to me.  If they
don't care what it sounds like, neither do I.  At Best Buys, I didn't
have to look for GUS support, I kept stumbling onto it, listed on the
box of almost every game I picked up.  And in my random sample, I saw
not ONE game that supported the AWE and/or the Aria cards, that did
not also support the GUS.

Even if what the second poster suggests is true, there are a hell of a
lot more over-three-months-old motherboards out there that have NMI,
and work fine with SBOS, than there are brand-new Pentiums with PCI
plug-and-play.  And I might add that Intel's Pentium PCI motherboards
DO support NMI as they always have, so any OEM system like Dell or
Gateway will continue to work with SBOS.  As always, only the cheap-o
Taiwan, Inc. boards are failing to do so.  There is nothing new here.

%%%%%%% Mike Batchelor %%%%%%%% http://www.clark.net/pub/mikebat/www/ %%%%%%%%
  "The avalanche has already begun.  It is too late for the pebbles to vote."


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From: (Nathan Hamblen)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 14:08:30 EDT
Subject: TV tip

Use the latest ultramid (not the one provided) and you can raise the
sound fequency without corrupting the sound.  Stereo still doesn't
work properly though.

I also tried the new megaem beta (it's supposed to be SBOS, megaem,
and ultramid all in one you know).  It worked on the test music in the
install but not at all in the game.

Nathan


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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:44:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Gus Experience CD.

On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Bryan Maher wrote:

Hi Bryan,

> >For people who got the CD, tell me how much you were charged for it;
> >I would like to know if I was overcharged $7.
>
> You were ripped... I paid $6 at a local Software Etc.  One would think that
> Gravis Should be able to offer it to you for less or equal.

    Hmmm, does Software Etc. really sell the CD?  Also, does anyone
out there happen to know local stores in San Francisco that sells the
GUS Max?  and where can I get the 1 MEG upgrade?  Thanks...

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!




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From: Chuck Robey <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 00:01:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Using GUS on FreeBSD.

I want to corectly option my new gus ultrasound for FreeBSD.  My cdrom
is on the other machine, and its scsi anyway, so I don't want the gus's
help for cdrom support, other than maybe routing audio through it.  Many
of the options on installing the gus are cdrom options, or at least
labelled that way: cdrom irq, cdrom dma, etc.  Are the irq and dma
channels really for the cdrom only, and should I disable them (by
removing the straps) ?  Or do they get involved in the gus card's audio
processing, and should I leave them in anyways?

- ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Chuck Robey                 | Interests include any kind of voice or data
[e-mail]          | communications topic, C programming, and Unix.
7608 Topton St.             |
New Carrollton, MD 20784    | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx
[phone]              | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy!
- ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------


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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:11:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Vince! Fix digest automated stuff!

On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Peter C. Chien Jr. wrote:

Hi Peter and everyone,


> Hi, Vince, there are growing (literally!) problems with the digest.
> First, please delete from the list the guy who has his mailbox full.  His
> stupid server is bouncing the mail back to the digest -- complete with a
> complete repost of everything.  Secondly, you recommended that we say
> "yes" when asked whether to reply to all recipients.  However, I believe
> it is causing the double-posting to the digest.  Please fix so that we
> can still say yes to reply to all recipients, but single postings to
> digest.  If not, I will say "no."  Also, it would be great if you can
> write a stripper/truncator/mail bounce backer/rejector on posts greater
> than, say 50 lines long.  I think that's a reasonable amount of space to work
> with (anyone else can suggest a number), and it prevents accidental reposts of
> the entire digest.  If anybody UNIX savvy can help him with the batch
> file, please do.  Thanks.
>                         -Peter
>

    Okay, I will delete the guy the next time I get a bounce...  As
for what I recommended, if you are using atleast pine v3.90, it should
work since it is not supposed to double post to the digest since there is
a Reply-To: header in the digest and you are supposed to say use Reply-To
instead of the Other address and that should work...  As for your last
part, that is already there but if the message is longer than 40,000
characters then it will come back to the digest owner instead of the list
and if I set it smaller than that then you would get a new digest every
time someone posts....

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:22:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Vince's Prob's and onother guy's

On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Bryan K. Baskin wrote:

Hi Bryan and fellow GUSers,

> This is my first suggestion:
>
> Since your problem is Windows not DOS, the RAM settings may be the
> culprit so...
> Set all wait states, etc to the highest numbers. See if this works. If
> not...
>
> Reinstall windows. Its a pain, but often it can solve little anoying
> things that may be impossible to track down. First try installing over
> the current setup to see if one samll file got corupted, then if that
> doesn't work, reinstall fresh, which is a royal pain. Also make sure
> you have fresh Windows drivers.
>
> See if you can get an OS/2 boot floppy set from someone and boot off
> of them. OS/2 tends to be sensitive about memory speeds and refreshes
> and if it loads, chances are the settings are okay.
>
> Also, the ISA Speedstar should be a problem, i had one w/ a GUS and no
> prob's. It CAN use IRQ 2 for EGA compatability. Don't think it needs
> DMA.

    Actually the whole problem was the ISA Speedstar since the Turbo
Windows drivers were what was causing it to lock up and when I used the
regular Speedstar drivers, it was okay and occasionally locked up so
maybe I need new drivers since these are 1992 drivers...  As for
crashing, the only place it locks up now is using Megaem 3.04b since when
it says loading patch, it just locks up the machine... Ofcourse, it's a
beta version....  Oh well...

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!




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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:54:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: NMI and why it used....

On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Chris McKillop wrote:

Hi Chris and everyone,

> Hello...
>
>     Some one asked about NMI and why it being used...well, it
> is ued because you cannot "mask" the interupt.  Therefore, the emulator
> (or whatever) can keep running no matter what the game does to take
> over the computer (well, in theory anyways).  That way the emultor
> can run and the game won't mess it up...
>
>     Has anyone tried installed Win95 on a computer without NMI???
> It wouldn't supprise me in the least if you had problems...and you
> won't be able to use MIDI either, since it uses NMI in Windows....NMI
> is part of the spec and only added about $25 bcuks to the cost of
> my new Pentium, so as far as I am concerend, thoses with NMIless
> motherboards have cheap computers...

    Well, for your information, this pentium motherboard costs $200
extra than the ones with NMI since this is the new Industry standard
based on the Intel Triton chipset... The motherboard alone is $300 and is
used on the Intel Zappa and Alladin Motherboards as well as the ASUS
P54TP4 and P55TP?  So the whole point is that this chipset conforms to
PCI Level 2.1 specs and does 100MB/sec PCI Transfer rate and also these are
the fastest computers available and even Micron is using the Micronics
motherboard with the Triton chipset since it supports EDO DRAM and also
pipeline burst cache....

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!




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From: [e-mail] (Matt Robinson)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 10:16:25 GMT
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36

> From: "Brian Hayes, Sierra Systems" <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:51:43 PDT
> Subject: Megaem 304 and Terminal Velocity....
>
> To: GUS-GENE--INTERNET gus-general@gaia.u
>
> Ok people, heres the scoop. The mega304.zip was bad, mega304b.zip is good. So
> what do you do? Well I ftp'ed to epas, and deleted the offending file. Why
> waste time telling everyone which one is good/bad--just delete the damn thing
> and nobody will have to worry!

Well, when I downloaded it, it was the mega304b.zip that was bad, not the
mega304.zip. It seems to be different on different sites. I hope you haven't
deleted the good file and left the corrupt one! :)

> From: Thaddaeus <[e-mail]>
> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:25:58 +1000 (EST)
> Subject: GUS Interwave
>
>     John Smith was quoted as saying that the next GUS will N.O.T have
> hardware SB/GMIDI compatability.

Who's John Smith? There's a politician in our country with that name. If it's
him, then I doubt he knows a lot about the next GUS :)

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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 02:11:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Something screwed up...

On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Jurassic Mark wrote:

Hi Mark and everyone,

> GUS day people,
>
>      Is it me or is the digest really screwed up lately?  First,
> there was message talking about a mailbox that is full and the digest
> was repeated, then posts were posted twice on the digest, and now I
> only received part of the digest.  I'm missing maybe 60% of it.  I'm
> talking about yesterday's digest.
>

    The digest has just been getting bounced messages back or something
that's all....  I think I fixed it now... I got the whole digest on my
3 accounts so maybe your system ran out of diskspace in /tmp when it was
receiving the digest since that is the only thing I can think of...

>      And when I try to post in the digest, I keep on receiving that
> message saying that the mailbox is full.  What's the deal?

    Hmmm, is it the mailbox of the GUS Mailing List or is it from one
of the receipients since I think what happened is that it bounces to the
author of the message from the account that has the mailbox full...

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!




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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 02:17:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #36

On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Mike Batchelor wrote:

Hi Mike and everyone,

> [e-mail] (The GUS Daily Digest)
> wrote:
> >
> > From: "Stephen Thomas Brindle"
> > <[e-mail]>
> > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:36:48 -0800
> > Subject: Re: NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS
> >
> > >From: Gavin Scarman <[e-mail]>
> > >Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 13:57:05 +1030
> > >Subject: NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS
> >
> > >Since SBOS (and the new Megaem??) require the NMI, the GUS will
> > soon no longer
> > >be able to bill itself as Sound Blaster compatible.
> > >The final result? It is even more critical the the GUS get native
> > support in all
> > >new games.
> >
> > I doubt that.  Seems to me that the final result would more likely
> > be
> > the death of the GUS.
>
> It seems to me that in the past year, any game worth getting has had
> native GUS support.  Even the latest Origin game supports it (forget
> the title, saw it at Best Buys yesterday).  For my tastes anyway, any
> game I have heard that supported Blaster-only sounded like crap, even
> with a real Blaster.  Sound is a big part of the game to me.  If they
> don't care what it sounds like, neither do I.  At Best Buys, I didn't
> have to look for GUS support, I kept stumbling onto it, listed on the
> box of almost every game I picked up.  And in my random sample, I saw
> not ONE game that supported the AWE and/or the Aria cards, that did
> not also support the GUS.
>
> Even if what the second poster suggests is true, there are a hell of a
> lot more over-three-months-old motherboards out there that have NMI,
> and work fine with SBOS, than there are brand-new Pentiums with PCI
> plug-and-play.  And I might add that Intel's Pentium PCI motherboards
> DO support NMI as they always have, so any OEM system like Dell or
> Gateway will continue to work with SBOS.  As always, only the cheap-o
> Taiwan, Inc. boards are failing to do so.  There is nothing new here.

    Actually, this isn't true anymore since Intel's new Alladin and
Zappa motherboards as well as the ASUS P54TP4 and the P55TP? all are
based on the faster Intel Triton chipset that is alot faster than the
Neptune and supports PCI Level 2.1 and also 100MB/sec transfer rates but
it doesn't have parity checking anymore and these motherboards are
$300-$400 each so they are not cheap since these are the only
motherboards supporting EDO RAM and Pipeline Burst Cache (the Intel's
don't even support this)..  Micronics is the supplier of the motherboards
based on the Intel Triton chipset on their systems with EDO RAM and
Pipeline Burst Cache and are considered the fastest Pentium machines
available.  Also, ASUS isn't cheap either since it can handle all the
load of ftp users at ftp.cdrom.com which is running FreeBSD UN*X as the OS..

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!




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