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The GUS Daily Digest        Tuesday, 6 June 1995        Volume 22 : Number 035

Today's Topics:
    Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)
    Undeliverable Message
    Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #34
    Re: Good news!
    Everything Missing?
    Vince, Max & Asus
    Is there a Midi-playing Tsr for GUS
    X-Com (The first one) v 1.4 and GUS.
    Re: AMD Interwave specs would be nice
    Mega304.zip vs. Mega304b.zip -- my experience
    SSF2T, Last Eden
    Re: Various things....
    Mega304.zip vs. Mega304b.zip -- my experience
    Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)
    Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)
    Re: Vince, Max & Asus
    Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)
    Last Eden
    Jagged Alliance and GUS
    Jagged Alliance and GUS
    Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.
    Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.
    GUS:DMA problem - DRAM refresh affecting it?
    Re: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.
    SSF2T CD
    NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS
    GUS and MIDI Keyboard.
    Re: TV
    Re: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.
    Re: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.

Standard Info:
    - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
    - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 03:17:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)

On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Sam wrote:

> > Subject: GUS & ASUS P54TP4 Problems/Line In Volume
> >
> >     I mentioned earlier I am having lots of problems with the GUSMax
> > and a Intel Triton based motherboard, the ASUS P54TP4, it turns out that
> > the motherboard doesn't support NMI since the Intel Triton chipset
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > doesn't have parity checking so anyways, I have updated my GUS drivers to
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ouch! that's bad news, if Triton can't do NMI...
>

    Hmmm, I think it only has something missing from NMI support
since it doesn't support parity checking but since if SBOS runs fine then
NMI is supported right but only the part for the parity checking is
missing I guess...

> > v4.11 and it still locks up in both DOS and Windows so does anyone know
> > if the machine is supposed to lock up if it doesn't support NMI?  What I
> > don't get is that SBOS loaded fine since I thought SBOS was supposed to
> > not load if there isn't NMI?
>
> I don't think it should lock up. NMI is not used except in the emulators.
> Have you tried playing with the BIOS setup to see if that fixes it? Maybe
> change the bus speed?

    Yes, I did that and changed the 16 bit BusClock to 4 and the 8bit
BusClock to 7...  Is the 8bit part needed for the GUSMax?  Also, in the
PCI/Plug N' Plug config, I enabled IRQ 11, IRQ 5, DMA 5, DMA 1 as used by
an ISA Card and it seems to work fine under DOS but with Windows, MODUS
would just lockup and Midisoft Recording Session, it would play the Midi
for 30 seconds and then lockup... Both of these locks up the maching and
I need to hit the reset button since the keyboard is locked up too...
Here are the setting I can mess around with in the BIOS...   Any ideas
what else I can change?

DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
DRAM Write Timing: x333
RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T

CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled
16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 4 BUSCLK
8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 7 BUSCLK

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!




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The GUS Daily Digest        Monday, 5 June 1995        Volume 22 : Number 034

Today's Topics:
    GUS for Sale!!
    Varied
    Various things....
    X-Wing and GUS...digital sound, Cyberia too
    XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #33
    GUSPRO
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #32
    SSF2T Problems
    AMD Interwave specs would be nice
    ????????Wing Commander III?????????
    Sam & Max CD: Solved!
    TV
    GUS for sale (fwd)
    Sam & Max CD: Solved
    GUS for Sale!!
    Re: Various things....
    Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #32

Standard Info:
    - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
    - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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From: HkStD <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 00:56:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: GUS for Sale!!

Hi, I'm not sure if it's appropriate for posting this, sorry if it's not.
But anyway, I have a GUS for sale. It's a 1meg rev 3.4. If anyone is
interested, please leave me an e-mail message and I'll get back to you. I
don't really have a price on it, but if you offer, I'll see what I can
do.

HkStD.


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun,  4 Jun 95 12:39:07 PDT
Subject: Varied

Hi,

* Part 1 - Trackers

Someone asked about trackers...

Trackers are MOD type player/writers, though the actual
.MOD format is rarely used in newer types of songs as it
does not support the flexibility as Fast Tracker (XM)and
Scream Tracker (S3M) formats.

If you want a tracking composer get either
the Fast Tracker (search archie for FT2),
latest version is 2.03 (not 100% sure about that)

Or, get the Scream Tracker v3.21.

Scream tracker seems to be simpler to use, but Fast
Tracker is much stronger, offering Sample editors,
16bit recording, Using a midi keyboard for input (gus only),
and other strong features.

I haven't seen many players play the .XM format tough.
(90% of players play the Scream Tracker's format though...)

Both Trackers work with the GUS, and i belive that the
Fast Tracker was written with GUS in mind, as it only
supports the GUS midi in (SB midi doesn't work).


* Part 2 - Win95 beta

Here's my input on the Win95 beta.  It seems to work MUCH
better than the older win (3.11), and responds faster,
looks ALOT better, and i mean ALOT!.

Unfortunantly for me, i use the Windows for Workgroups with
Hebrew language support, which the beta of Win95 simply
does not allow you to install from.

I had to do a complete install from dos, which was kinda
annoying.

But i was successful in transferring the gus driver from
the old windows, by doing this:

1. Telling win95 i want to install new hardware.
2. Telling it i don't want it to search for any hardware.
3. Telling it to look in my windows\system directory
   for the drivers (example: c:\windows\system\)

And it worked fine...

I tried to run mk2 from a dos window, and it got stuck, but
within windows itself everything seemed to work fine.


* Part 3 - Toshiba 3601 SCSI

Someone asked about the Toshiba 3601 SCSI x4+ cdrom.

By chance... i own such a CD-Rom, and...

I connected it to an Adaptec Fast SCSI controller, and it works just
fine, the thing is, that the controller came on IRQ 11, and caused
havoc, so just switch it to IRQ 15, and you're fine. Also notice that
the controller comes on port 330, which tends to cause all sort
of wierd stuff to happen with roland emulation (switch emulation to
300 if possible).

The only problem i couldn't solve is that for some strange reason
i couldn't get CD-Audio to work well (sound played from music CDs),
it played it only in one channel (left), but when i connected headphones
to the CD-Headphone plug, the sound was stereo, i have an old GUS
so the problem may be there, it may also be a faulty cable connecting
the CD-Audio to the GUS-CD Audio connection, but this doesn't bother me,
since im not actually playing music from the CD-Rom, and i only seen 2-3
games that played recorded songs via the CD-Audio cable.
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From: [e-mail] (Matt Robinson)
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 09:00:38 GMT
Subject: Various things....

> > What about changing the settings in ULTRAMIX.INI and trying ULTRAMIX in DOS. Or
> > use one of the millions of PD dos mixer programs for the GUSMax on the various
> > GUS ftp archives.
>
>     Hmmm, I thought Ultramix works only under Windows since in
> Windows, it works fine.  DOS is where the problem lies...  I have tried
> GUSMIX though and the same thing happens...  Ofcourse, this may all have
> a problem to do with the Intel Triton chipset based ASUS P54TP4 P5-90
> motherboard I used since two days ago since Windows would lock up one
> minute after I start it up or sooner if I decided to try MODUS or
> something.  In DOS, I noticed when using GUSMOD, it sounds like static
> while MIDIDEMO would play the first note and lockup.  I am using the
> v3.53 disks with a GUSMax v1.8 board so are there problems with the v3.53
> disks?  Any help would be appreciated...  Thanks!

There should be 2 versions of ULTRAMIX.EXE (I think) one in the root GUS
directory and one in the %gusdir%\windows directory. Either way, I'm pretty
sure that the motherboard isn't to blame, because otherwise you'd have the
same problems in windows (logically). You might try fiddling with your BIOS
settings, (Always does SOMETHING when I play with them, though whether it's a
good or bad thing is a random effect =)

> From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <[e-mail]>
> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 15:31:23 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: USS8/16/SAW help needed.
>
> The SAW demo doesn't work for me, perhaps because I have the regular
> UltraSound (8-bit recording).  Can anyone tell me if this hard disk
> recorder works at least for the MAX?  If it does, then I suppose I'll
> upgrade to 16-bit recording (perhaps wait for the Interwave).  Failing
> that, I tried USS8, which is just a regular recorder, but at least it
> allows mixing.  BUT, at 44100 khz sampling, I only get up to 45 seconds
> of recording, after which it stops automatically.  I have *way* more hard
> drive space, so theoretically I should be able to record longer.  Is
> there a work around for this, or is it just software limited?  Does USS16
> have this 45 second or so limit, or can those of you with the MAX or the
> DB have hard disk space limited recording?

I think the 45 second limit is RAM based, and after that it would spool to
your HD. The problem is that a lot of HD's aren't quick enough, so USS8 stops
dead, to stop those people getting choppy sound files or worse.

> From: [e-mail] (P.Chen)
> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 23:39:11 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: location of Dope demo
>
>    I've looked all over the place for the Dope demo (wuarchive, epas,
> and the mirrors) and haven't been able to find it.  Could some kind
> soul point me in the right direction, or perhaps put it on epas?
Look in the demo/ directory for CLX_DOPE.ZIP. I think it's around 893K.

> From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 01:15:08 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: GUS & ASUS P54TP4 Problems/Line In Volume
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>     I mentioned earlier I am having lots of problems with the GUSMax
> and a Intel Triton based motherboard, the ASUS P54TP4, it turns out that
> the motherboard doesn't support NMI since the Intel Triton chipset
> doesn't have parity checking so anyways, I have updated my GUS drivers to
> v4.11 and it still locks up in both DOS and Windows so does anyone know
> if the machine is supposed to lock up if it doesn't support NMI?  What I
> don't get is that SBOS loaded fine since I thought SBOS was supposed to
> not load if there isn't NMI?

Well, I'd take the motherboard back and exchange it for one with NMI, while it's
still free to do so. That'll save you a LOT of bother in the future.

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From: [e-mail] (Scott A. Jones)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 20:33:09 -0400
Subject: X-Wing and GUS...digital sound, Cyberia too

Everyone probably knows the answer to this by now, except me that is...but is
there any way to get digital sound with a GUSMax in X-Wing?  I can get music
but no digital sounds.  This was my favorite game but it's not as cool without
the sound....any help would really be appreciated as I've tried everything.

Oh, has anyone ever figured out how to get any sound out of Cyberia?  It's
been boxed away since I bought it.  Tried everything with that one too.
     Thanks!

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From: Sam <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 12:03:51 +0100 (BST)
Subject: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)

> I haven't seen many players play the .XM format tough.
> (90% of players play the Scream Tracker's format though...)

There are quite a few players supporting XM now. (though still not as
many as s3m).

> Both Trackers work with the GUS, and i belive that the
> Fast Tracker was written with GUS in mind, as it only
> supports the GUS midi in (SB midi doesn't work).

When Triton wrote it, they didn't have an SB at all, which is probably
why the MIDI doesn't work ;)

> Subject: location of Dope demo
>
>    I've looked all over the place for the Dope demo (wuarchive, epas,
> and the mirrors) and haven't been able to find it.  Could some kind
> soul point me in the right direction, or perhaps put it on epas?

ftp.cdrom.com /pub/demos

and look around from there for the file, which is cx-dope.zip or
something similar. (Try the "alpha" directories first, if it's not there
look in incoming, some party directory).

> Subject: GUS & ASUS P54TP4 Problems/Line In Volume
>
>     I mentioned earlier I am having lots of problems with the GUSMax
> and a Intel Triton based motherboard, the ASUS P54TP4, it turns out that
> the motherboard doesn't support NMI since the Intel Triton chipset
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> doesn't have parity checking so anyways, I have updated my GUS drivers to
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ouch! that's bad news, if Triton can't do NMI...

> v4.11 and it still locks up in both DOS and Windows so does anyone know
> if the machine is supposed to lock up if it doesn't support NMI?  What I
> don't get is that SBOS loaded fine since I thought SBOS was supposed to
> not load if there isn't NMI?

I don't think it should lock up. NMI is not used except in the emulators.
Have you tried playing with the BIOS setup to see if that fixes it? Maybe
change the bus speed?

Sam

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Campbell)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:41:08 -0300
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #33

>From: "Jurassic Mark" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 21:51:35 +400
>Subject: Gus PRO - Review

>GUS day everyone,

:)

>     I guess many of you are curious about the set of files called
>GUS Pro that appeared on Epas.  I was too and downloaded them all,
>backed up my PAT files and installed it.

Same here...

>     I played with more MIDI files, but I think this post is long
>enough.  I love the bass of some patches.  They really add something
>to my MIDIs, but there are some (like the Orchestra Hit) that are way
>off-note.  The snare patch also annoyed me in some MIDI files...  I
>think I'll unzip my old GUS patches now...

Actually, I really like the GUSPRO patches, they make most of my MIDI's
sound better, I might look for replacement for a few myself, but for the
most part I'm happy with the quality.

Hopefully we will see an update soon :)

                  IRC: Popcorn - TraxWeekly Editor / Hornet
           Chris Campbell - Port Hawkesbury, Nova Scotia... Canada
      "Who is General Failure, and why the hell is he reading my disk?"
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Leung)
Date: Sun,  4 Jun 1995 17:00:12 GMT
Subject: GUSPRO

    Can someone upload GUSPRO to GRAVIS BBS?
Many useful files on epas are not on Gravis BBS!!! ARRR

[e-mail]



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From: Yossi Oren <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 95 20:24:13 +0300
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #32

Vince, your line problems:
The MAX and newer cards have a mixer chip (or part of chip in the MAX).  It can
set volumes and whatever.  You should try running ultramix with its various
settings and see if it does you any good.  The old GUS probably doesn't have
the mixer (2.x board?) and doesn't have that problem.  The MIDi mess sounds
like DMA trouble, but you can try running PLAYMIDI in interactive mode  (i.e.
type PLAYMIDI and press enter), and
telling us the message on the screen when it crashes (i.e. Loading Patches,
Cleaning Up or whatever)

Yaron and WFWG3.11/MultiLingual:  (aba shelcha kana internet, nachon? ;-)
I think Milton or somebody's distributing a beta of Windows 95 with Hebrew
Support (The system is prerelease, the Hebrew is beta I).  Try that one out.
I've seen it installed over WFWG3.11/ML with GUS support.

Chen, just click this:<ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos/alpha/c/clx_dope.zip>

About the resonant filters or whatever - I think it's the sorta "wnyaaaw" sound
you hear in techno music, specifically the 2ndreal soundtrack (where it's cut
up) and ccity12.s3m (good tune, BTW).

Yossi.

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From: Ted Ching <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SSF2T Problems

To the guy with SSF2T & GUS problems,  are you loading loadpats.exe?

You can just insert it in the ssf2t.bat file thats used for starting the game.

For example, ssf2t.bat could read:  (I just added "loadpats" in the 2nd line)

@ECHO OFF
LOADPATS
IF EXIST EDPMI.SWP DEL EDPMI.SWP
MAKESWP
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO END
SF2TURBO
:END
IF EXIST EDPMI.SWP DEL EDPMI.SWP


hope that helps...  BTW, surprisingly the GUS provides the best music in
this game since it only supports FM synthesis music and GUS's wavetable
synthesis.

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From: Ted Ching <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:50:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: AMD Interwave specs would be nice

Could someone please post all the technical specs on the AMD Interwave
here?  I've only seen the press-release.

I would like to know:

1) How does it support General MIDI?  (load GUS patches or ROM patches?)
2) Is it hardware SB compatible?
3) Is Gravis going to use the chip in their next GUS? and when?
4) Will current Ultrasounds have an upgrade option to the Interwave?
5) How will the current Ultrasound owners benefit from Interwave support?



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From: [e-mail] (Emil Rakoczy)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:28:56 +0100
Subject: ????????Wing Commander III?????????

Know it doesn't sort of belong here.
But....
I get:  ....exception 0 happenend... ...bad CD Data read...
when I try to play WC3. It sucks. Didn't have it before, except for some
occations in the middle of the game, and now it won't even start.

I have an GUS, SB16, Toshiba 3.4 and an adaptec EZ-scsi lite controller.

Anyone?

Thanks in advance....

Emil R

See? No signature!!!


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From: Francis Li <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 95 14:19:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sam & Max CD: Solved!

I belive I have found a way to get Sam & Max Hit the Road CD-ROM working
fully:

First, get a hold of a copy of DOS4GW.EXE version 1.8.  You can get it
from the Rebel Assault patch on the LucasArts BBS (415-257-3070).  Use it
to load the game (or SETMUSE) like this:

Assuming you have DOS4GW.EXE in your SAMNMAX.CD directory, and your
CD-ROM drive is E:

E:\SAMNMAX>c:\samnmax.cd\dos4gw samnmax

Second, install the game using the Sound Blaster PRO digital sound
driver.  The test sound works like a charm, and same with game sound.  If
you are using SBOS, go to the advanced menu to set the music to AdLib (as
opposed to 4-OP).

This ALSO works with the Sound Blaster emulation of MEGA-EM 3.04B.
However, since I have a Rev. 2.2 card, I can't test the General MIDI music
(well, I can _test_ it, but it doesn't work).

Drat drat drat drat drat drat drat!

Anyone have a GUS MAX or a GUS 3.7 they'd like to trade?:)  There's no
exhange program from Advanced Gravis...  Sigh.

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From: Will Dormann <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 18:27:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TV

Sorry if I am reposting something already said. . . I haven't really been
following along the Terminal Velocity thread.

Well, there is a patch out for the game.  It will now support the GUS!  :)

It's a great game, now that I have sound!  <G>


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From: [e-mail] (John Wallace)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 95 19:30 CDT
Subject: GUS for sale (fwd)

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Hi,

I have a GUS for sale. It is about 2 years old and has 256k RAM.
It has barely been used, but works fine. I want to buy a better
OS/2 supported card. I'd like to get $70 but I don't know what
the going prices are so I'll also accept best offer.

Rob Thompson
Etch Engineer
Integrated Device Technology


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From: Francis Li <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 95 17:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sam & Max CD: Solved

I belive I have found a way to get Sam & Max Hit the Road CD-ROM working
fully:

First, get a hold of a copy of DOS4GW.EXE version 1.8.  You can get it
from the Rebel Assault patch on the LucasArts BBS (415-257-3070).  Use it
to load the game (or SETMUSE) like this:

Assuming you have DOS4GW.EXE in your SAMNMAX.CD directory, and your
CD-ROM drive is E:

E:\SAMNMAX>c:\samnmax.cd\dos4gw samnmax

Second, install the game using the Sound Blaster PRO digital sound
driver.  The test sound works like a charm, and same with game sound.  If
you are using SBOS, go to the advanced menu to set the music to AdLib (as
opposed to 4-OP).

This ALSO works with the Sound Blaster emulation of MEGA-EM 3.04B.
However, since I have a Rev. 2.2 card, I can't test the General MIDI music
(well, I can _test_ it, but it doesn't work).

Drat drat drat drat drat drat drat!

Anyone have a GUS MAX or a GUS 3.7 they'd like to trade?:)  There's no
exhange program from Advanced Gravis...  Sigh.



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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 20:21:21 -0700
Subject: GUS for Sale!!

I have a GUS rev 3.4 with 1Meg for sale. If anyone is interested, plese leave me
e-mail at [e-mail]. Price is negotiable, just leave me your price. Sorry if
this message is inappropriate for the digest. I just thought that some people might
be looking for a GUS on the digest.

HkStD.


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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:05:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Various things....

On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Matt Robinson wrote:

> > > What about changing the settings in ULTRAMIX.INI and trying ULTRAMIX in DOS. Or
> > > use one of the millions of PD dos mixer programs for the GUSMax on the various
> > > GUS ftp archives.
> >
> >     Hmmm, I thought Ultramix works only under Windows since in
> > Windows, it works fine.  DOS is where the problem lies...  I have tried
> > GUSMIX though and the same thing happens...  Ofcourse, this may all have
> > a problem to do with the Intel Triton chipset based ASUS P54TP4 P5-90
> > motherboard I used since two days ago since Windows would lock up one
> > minute after I start it up or sooner if I decided to try MODUS or
> > something.  In DOS, I noticed when using GUSMOD, it sounds like static
> > while MIDIDEMO would play the first note and lockup.  I am using the
> > v3.53 disks with a GUSMax v1.8 board so are there problems with the v3.53
> > disks?  Any help would be appreciated...  Thanks!
>
> There should be 2 versions of ULTRAMIX.EXE (I think) one in the root GUS
> directory and one in the %gusdir%\windows directory. Either way, I'm pretty
> sure that the motherboard isn't to blame, because otherwise you'd have the
> same problems in windows (logically). You might try fiddling with your BIOS
> settings, (Always does SOMETHING when I play with them, though whether it's a
> good or bad thing is a random effect =)
>

    Hmmm, there isn't much I can mess around with in the BIOS except
under Chipset Features setup:

DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
DRAM Write Timing: x333
RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T

CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled
16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 3 BUSCLK
8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 3 BUSCLK

    Any ideas what I can try?  As for the Ultramix, I found it as
soon as I upgraded to v3.59 for the GUS Drivers but for some reason, with
GUS v3.59 the stuff works under DOS fine while it hangs under v4.11 and v3.53
of the GUS Software.  Also, for the Ultramix, I noticed that with line in's
volume at 0dB, it seems to be lower than the actual line in volume, any
ideas as to how many dB's the GUSMax's mixer actually reduces the volume by?

> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >     I mentioned earlier I am having lots of problems with the GUSMax
> > and a Intel Triton based motherboard, the ASUS P54TP4, it turns out that
> > the motherboard doesn't support NMI since the Intel Triton chipset
> > doesn't have parity checking so anyways, I have updated my GUS drivers to
> > v4.11 and it still locks up in both DOS and Windows so does anyone know
> > if the machine is supposed to lock up if it doesn't support NMI?  What I
> > don't get is that SBOS loaded fine since I thought SBOS was supposed to
> > not load if there isn't NMI?
>
> Well, I'd take the motherboard back and exchange it for one with NMI, while it's
> still free to do so. That'll save you a LOT of bother in the future.

    Well, but that isn't really a solution to the problem as all
motherboards based on the fastest Pentium chipset on the market, the
Intel Triton doesn't support parity so like you loose like the 100MB/sec
performance if you go with less of a motherboard.

Cheers,
- - -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:55:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #32

On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Yossi Oren wrote:

> Vince, your line problems:
> The MAX and newer cards have a mixer chip (or part of chip in the MAX).  It can
> set volumes and whatever.  You should try running ultramix with its various
> settings and see if it does you any good.  The old GUS probably doesn't have
> the mixer (2.x board?) and doesn't have that problem.  The MIDi mess sounds
> like DMA trouble, but you can try running PLAYMIDI in interactive mode  (i.e.
> type PLAYMIDI and press enter), and
> telling us the message on the screen when it crashes (i.e. Loading Patches,
> Cleaning Up or whatever)
>

    You are right about the first one but do you know how many dB's
does the mixer take off from the line in volume since at 0dB, the volume
is alot lower than the volume from the line in source.  As for the DMA
Trouble, I got the problem under DOS Fixed by changing the BusClock to 4
for 16 bit and 7 for 8 bit and also in the PCI Settings, I marked DMA 1,
DMA 5, IRQ 11, IRQ 5 as those used by a ISA card namely the GUSMax but
somehow in Windows, when I use MODUS, it just locks up but with Midisoft
Recording session, it plays the Midi file for like 1 minute and then it
locks up, any ideas on how to fix this?  Here are the settings that I can
still mess around with on my P5-90 Intel Triton based ASUS P54TP4 PCI/ISA
Motherboard:

    Hmmm, there isn't much I can mess around with in the BIOS except
under Chipset Features setup:

DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
DRAM Write Timing: x333
RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T

CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled
16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 4 BUSCLK
8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 7 BUSCLK (Does the GUSMax use 8bit at all?)

    Any ideas?  Thanks!

Cheers,
- - -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
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From: Sam <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 10:30:42 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, -Vince- wrote:

> > I don't think it should lock up. NMI is not used except in the emulators.
> > Have you tried playing with the BIOS setup to see if that fixes it? Maybe
> > change the bus speed?
>
>     Yes, I did that and changed the 16 bit BusClock to 4 and the 8bit
> BusClock to 7...  Is the 8bit part needed for the GUSMax?  Also, in the

> 16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 4 BUSCLK
> 8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 7 BUSCLK

Set them as slow (i.e. big) as they'll go. 4 clocks is probably too fast
on a 66 mhz motherboard? is that what it is? or is it processor speed...
anyway. Set both of them to max. If that fixes the problem, turn one of
them back to where it is now, try with each till you find the one that
matters. Then, speed up the one that matters step by step until just
before it stops working.

Of course, if setting them to slow as possible doesn't help, that won't
work. But I think we need either 3 or 4 setting, and we only have 33 Mhz 486.

Sam

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From: Sam <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:14:50 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #34

> Subject: AMD Interwave specs would be nice
>
> Could someone please post all the technical specs on the AMD Interwave
> here?  I've only seen the press-release.

yep, that would be nice someone! ;)

> 1) How does it support General MIDI?  (load GUS patches or ROM patches?)

According to previous info here, it can have up to 16 megs of ROM and
RAM. (not sure if that's "each" or "altogether").

> 2) Is it hardware SB compatible?

Don't know.

> 3) Is Gravis going to use the chip in their next GUS? and when?

According to info here, "Ultrasound Interwave" will be out September; and
Phat Tran (I think? Am I remembering wrong person) said the Gravis-AMD
deal included Gravis getting first board released with IW.

> 4) Will current Ultrasounds have an upgrade option to the Interwave?

Definitely not.

> 5) How will the current Ultrasound owners benefit from Interwave support?

Interwave is a superset of GUS functionality, so having written Interwave
support, it should be pretty easy to just take out the extended bits and
change frequency numbers so it works on GUS.

No other direct benefits. But this benefit POSSIBLY (my guess) includes
the Win95 driver; Gravis may well do a combined driver for IW and GUS, or
else the drivers may share a lot of code, meaning the GUS win'95 driver
should definitely happen soon. (since IW is bound to ship with it.)

VERY important question 6)

Will the SDK be free? Will it be released at same time or soon after the
card? How about some quick low-level technical information (you know,
kind of like Tran's docs on GUS, but official?)

Anyone know this? AMD's press release seemed to imply a typical
pay-through-nose developer kit, but hopefully, Gravis want to keep their
mass support from demoscene and associated coders.

If by some miracle I actually finish the game I've just started working
on [last 2 serious attempts failed...], it should be done about same time as
Ultrasound Interwave release, and I'd like to have support ;)

Sam

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From: [e-mail] (Timo Saarto)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:27:45 +0200 (WET)
Subject: Re: Good news!

>        !!The new beta version of MegaEm 3.04 is out!!
>I've downloaded a copy from Gravis BBS today... (Local # for me!)

Well Mr. Local Number :)
When is this going to be on (any)  FTP-site ? :)


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 10:03:11 EDT
Subject: Everything Missing?

Greetings,

   I was just wondering where all the files have gone from
archive.epas.utoronto.ca.  I've tried FTP by mail and regular FTP and
can't seem to find them anywhere.  The directories just contain an index
file.  I really need the new GUS disk set along with some of the nifty new
utils..

                        Regards,
                        Jason DiMichele


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From: Jo HaAvAr SlAnGsVoLd <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:17:39 +0100
Subject: Vince, Max & Asus

I'm using the same motherboard as you, with a P90 together with my
good ol' veteran-Gus, the (Oct.-92) rev 2.2 and everything is working
like a sharm.  This means that I think your warnings about
Intel Triton not supporting NMI is a false alarm, and something else
must be wrong in your configuration... (You've probably already
figured out that missing NMI don't cause the failures.)
This is the collection of cards in my configuration:
PCI NCR 810 scsi-controller
PCI Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM
ISA Novell NE-2000 N.I.
I recently put in an old Galaxy NX to get some annoying FM-screams
from Indycar, and that didn't change the status of the system.
Everything still worked after changing the baseport at the GUS from
220 to 240 and putting in some extra IRQ's and DMA's :)
I haven't tried my machine with a MAX though.  If you want me to put a
MAX in there, I'll take the job to do it for you...

JoHS

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From: [e-mail] (John W. Jones)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:12:48 -0700
Subject: Is there a Midi-playing Tsr for GUS

As the subject says, I am looking for a program which will
play midi files on my gusmax while I do other dos stuff.  I
know that playmidi has a tsr mode, but it takes up half of
the conventional dos memory, even when I use LH (to load
high).  The result is that there isn't enough memory left to
do much.  Any suggestions?

                                 John
                                 [e-mail]


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From: Justin Hooper <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:06:07 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: X-Com (The first one) v 1.4 and GUS.

I have a 2.4 GUS and the following problem :)

I've installed the v1.4 patch for X-Com, and have attempted to get it to
work.  It just locks.  Through spending way too much time
troubleshooting, I've determine that it's choosing to have the GUS
Digital sound active that makes it lock.  I.E.  if I choose music, no
digital, I'm fine, while digital, no music locks, as does digital and
music.  Further, thinking it might be a problem with DOS4GW, i replaced
it with an older version, and got the digital sound to work, but no
music, and the graphics were screwed up.  I've looked all over for a
version of DOS4GW *newer* than the one I have (dated 1-11-94) but I can't
find one.  Has anybody out there experienced similar problems, and, if
so, how did you resolve them.  (Yes, I have already tried changing the
DMAs and IRQs, to see if DOS4GW still had problems with high numbers, but
no go.)

Thanks in advance,
Justin


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From: Neal Pitts <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:37:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: AMD Interwave specs would be nice

>From: Ted Ching <[e-mail]>
>Could someone please post all the technical specs on the AMD Interwave

I'm not sure I can answer everything with great accuracy, but based on
the talk I had with a AMD rep and the free stuff he mailed me about the
chip and the stuff I've read here and the soundcard usenet groups, I'll
try and respond.

>I would like to know:
>
>1) How does it support General MIDI?  (load GUS patches or ROM patches?)

The Interwave supports 16 megs ROM and 16 megs RAM memory, so I guess it
could grab them from either.  The patches don't necessarily have to be
GUS compatabile because GUS compatability is just one of a few different
compatability modes on the chip.

>2) Is it hardware SB compatible?

I believe it is. :)

>3) Is Gravis going to use the chip in their next GUS? and when?

The latest rumor is September, but I also heard September was the release
date of the INTERWAVE, but it's possible both could come out at the same
time becase Gravis gets special early supplies of the chip.

>4) Will current Ultrasounds have an upgrade option to the Interwave?

I would doubt it because there really isn't much to upgrade.  As I
understand it, the Interwave chip is a lot of the GUS Max on one chip
(looking at the feature and spec list), codec and all.

>5) How will the current Ultrasound owners benefit from Interwave support?

I would guess the only ways would be from a new GUS card and the
Interwave compatability mode that supports the GUS.  The idea that the
GUS will get extra coverage because the Interwave is going into more than
just the GUS, such as PC motherboards, doesn't go very far because AMD is
pushing their own Interwave sound standard which is not the same as the
GUS standard; also the chip supports General MIDI, which many people are
still interested in.

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 95 11:53:10 PST
Subject: Mega304.zip vs. Mega304b.zip -- my experience

     There has been some discussion here about the new Mega-Em version
     3.04, and which file to get it from.  I picked up the files
     mega304.zip and mega304b.zip from epas on Monday 5 June 95 from the
     submit subdirectory, and unzipped them.

     My experience:

     mega304.zip differs from mega304b.zip by a single bit !

     mega304.zip gives a CRC verification error when unzipped by PKUNZIP
     version 2.04g (but completes unzipping anyway).  mega304b.zip unzips
     without any complaint.

     Each .zip file contains three files:
        README
        README.EXE
        MEGAEM.ZIP

     The MEGAEM.ZIP file from mega304.zip differs from the MEGAEM.ZIP file
     from mega304b.zip by a single bit !  The README and README.EXE files
     are identical between the two versions.

     Unzipping MEGAEM.ZIP from mega304.zip gives a CRC verification error
     (but completes unzipping anyway).  Unzipping MEGAEM.ZIP from
     mega304b.zip proceeds without any complaint.

     MEGAEM.ZIP contains these files:
        MSETUP.EXE
        BUILDPAT.EXE
        MEGAEM.TXT
        MEGAEM.EXE

     Of these, only MEGAEM.EXE is different between the two versions.  They
     are the same length, but differ in seven bytes !
     [Amazing what one bit in a compressed file can do to the resulting
     uncompressed output].

     I haven't tried the results yet (I am at work, and my GUS is at home),
     but my conclusion is:
         mega304.zip is corrupt.
         mega304b.zip is appears fine, and is the one to get.

     Any confirmations, or experiences to the contrary ?

     --  Ian Shef

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From: [e-mail] (NGUYEN Francois                   )
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 00:58:20 +0100
Subject: SSF2T, Last Eden

SSF2T : use loadpats b4 to start the game and it WILL work just fine.
At least it worked with the demo version.

Did anyone succeeded in using Last eden (from Cryo, Virgin) with the gus
or gus max ?
thanks for telling me how.
Francois Nguyen: [e-mail]

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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:13:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Various things....

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Matt Robinson wrote:

> > > There should be 2 versions of ULTRAMIX.EXE (I think) one in the root GUS
> > > directory and one in the %gusdir%\windows directory. Either way, I'm pretty
> > > sure that the motherboard isn't to blame, because otherwise you'd have the
> > > same problems in windows (logically). You might try fiddling with your BIOS
> > > settings, (Always does SOMETHING when I play with them, though whether it's a
> > > good or bad thing is a random effect =)
> > >
> >
> >     Hmmm, there isn't much I can mess around with in the BIOS except
> > under Chipset Features setup:
> >
> > DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
> > DRAM Write Timing: x333
> > RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
> > DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T
> >
> > CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled
> > 16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 3 BUSCLK
> > 8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 3 BUSCLK
> >
> >     Any ideas what I can try?  As for the Ultramix, I found it as
> > soon as I upgraded to v3.59 for the GUS Drivers but for some reason, with
> > GUS v3.59 the stuff works under DOS fine while it hangs under v4.11 and v3.53
> > of the GUS Software.  Also, for the Ultramix, I noticed that with line in's
> > volume at 0dB, it seems to be lower than the actual line in volume, any
> > ideas as to how many dB's the GUSMax's mixer actually reduces the volume by?
>
> Sorry, I'm no PCI expert, I've only got a 486DX2/66, so PCI would be a waste of
> money for me. You can change the ULTRAMIX settings by editing ULTRAMIX.INI, or
> change them in the windows mixer and save. (I think). I've got no idea.
>

    I tried the Ultramix settings but what I am trying to figure out is
the volume is in dB's, 3dB's is equal to twice the volume but what I need to
find out is like how many dB's decrease is the GUSMax's mixer losing with the
volume at 0dB...

> > > Well, I'd take the motherboard back and exchange it for one with NMI, while it's
> > > still free to do so. That'll save you a LOT of bother in the future.
> >
> >     Well, but that isn't really a solution to the problem as all
> > motherboards based on the fastest Pentium chipset on the market, the
> > Intel Triton doesn't support parity so like you loose like the 100MB/sec
> > performance if you go with less of a motherboard.
>
> Well, it's either performance or compatability, like the difference between
> windows NT and windows 95.

    I know what you mean but this motherboard is compatible with
everything so far.  I got it working under DOS now but just need to find
out what's causing the lockup in Windows.  Also, the Intel Triton chipset
is the current chipset support PCI v2.0 Plug N' Play also it is used on
the Intel Zappa, Alladin motherboards which are industry standard.  The
Intel Triton just doesn't support parity checking but it does support NMI
just the part dealing with parity checking so I don't know how to fix the
Windows problem since there maybe some sort of conflict.

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 95 13:13:04 PST
Subject: Mega304.zip vs. Mega304b.zip -- my experience

     There has been some discussion here about the new Mega-Em version
     3.04, and which file to get it from.  I picked up the files
     mega304.zip and mega304b.zip from epas on Monday 5 June 95 from the
     submit subdirectory, and unzipped them.

     My experience:

     mega304.zip differs from mega304b.zip by a single bit !

     mega304.zip gives a CRC verification error when unzipped by PKUNZIP
     version 2.04g (but completes unzipping anyway).  mega304b.zip unzips
     without any complaint.

     Each .zip file contains three files:
     README
     README.EXE
     MEGAEM.ZIP

     The MEGAEM.ZIP file from mega304.zip differs from the MEGAEM.ZIP file
     from mega304b.zip by a single bit !  The README and README.EXE files
     are identical between the two versions.

     Unzipping MEGAEM.ZIP from mega304.zip gives a CRC verification error
     (but completes unzipping anyway).  Unzipping MEGAEM.ZIP from
     mega304b.zip proceeds without any complaint.

     MEGAEM.ZIP contains these files:
     MSETUP.EXE
     BUILDPAT.EXE
     MEGAEM.TXT
     MEGAEM.EXE

     Of these, only MEGAEM.EXE is different between the two versions.  They
     are the same length, but differ in seven bytes !
     [Amazing what one bit in a compressed file can do to the resulting
     uncompressed output].

     I haven't tried the results yet (I am at work, and my GUS is at home),
     but my conclusion is:
     mega304.zip is corrupt.
     mega304b.zip is appears fine, and is the one to get.

     Any confirmations, or experiences to the contrary ?

     --  Ian Shef

------------------------------

From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Sam wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, -Vince- wrote:
>
> > > I don't think it should lock up. NMI is not used except in the emulators.
> > > Have you tried playing with the BIOS setup to see if that fixes it? Maybe
> > > change the bus speed?
> >
> >     Yes, I did that and changed the 16 bit BusClock to 4 and the 8bit
> > BusClock to 7...  Is the 8bit part needed for the GUSMax?  Also, in the
>
> > 16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 4 BUSCLK
> > 8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 7 BUSCLK
>
> Set them as slow (i.e. big) as they'll go. 4 clocks is probably too fast
> on a 66 mhz motherboard? is that what it is? or is it processor speed...
> anyway. Set both of them to max. If that fixes the problem, turn one of
> them back to where it is now, try with each till you find the one that
> matters. Then, speed up the one that matters step by step until just
> before it stops working.
>

    This is a P5-90 motherboard and 4 is the slowest it's go since the
default was at 3 and the range was from 1 to 4... It won't work if I have
it set at 3 though.  Also, do you know anything about the options below
that I can mess around with?

DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
DRAM Write Timing: x333
RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T

CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled
16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 4 BUSCLK
8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 7 BUSCLK (this goes from 1-8)

> Of course, if setting them to slow as possible doesn't help, that won't
> work. But I think we need either 3 or 4 setting, and we only have 33 Mhz 486.

    It actually works under DOS, it just locks up in Windows and I
don't know how to determine where the problem lies in Windows setup.

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!


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From: Sam <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:27:36 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, -Vince- wrote:

> > Set them as slow (i.e. big) as they'll go. 4 clocks is probably too fast
> > on a 66 mhz motherboard? is that what it is? or is it processor speed...
>
>     This is a P5-90 motherboard and 4 is the slowest it's go since the

oh well, *must* be slow enough then.

> default was at 3 and the range was from 1 to 4... It won't work if I have
> it set at 3 though.  Also, do you know anything about the options below
> that I can mess around with?
>
> DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
> DRAM Write Timing: x333
> RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
> DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T

All to do with system RAM, you can ignore.

> CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled

Shouldn't matter since GUS isn't on PCI slot.

>     It actually works under DOS, it just locks up in Windows and I
> don't know how to determine where the problem lies in Windows setup.

I guess you tried different IRQ, DMA etc... Do you use any odd software
(e.g. Stacker 4's DPMI feature incompatible with GUS windows drivers.)?
If not, I've run out of ideas.

Sam

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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:42:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Vince, Max & Asus

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Jo HaAvAr SlAnGsVoLd wrote:

>
> I'm using the same motherboard as you, with a P90 together with my
> good ol' veteran-Gus, the (Oct.-92) rev 2.2 and everything is working
> like a sharm.  This means that I think your warnings about
> Intel Triton not supporting NMI is a false alarm, and something else
> must be wrong in your configuration... (You've probably already
> figured out that missing NMI don't cause the failures.)

    Yep but I think it only misses the NMI support for the parity checking
while the rest of NMI is there.  I just thought NMI was missing since the
GUS v4.11 drvers setup program couldn't pass the NMI test but SBOS works fine
so that's another story.  I got the board to work under DOS now by
changing the following:


In the BIOS under Chipset Features setup:

DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
DRAM Write Timing: x333
RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T

CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled
16-bit I/O Recovery Time: 4 BUSCLK (it will go from 1-4, default was 3)
8-bit I/O Recovery Time: 7 BUSCLK (it will go from 1-8. default was 3)

    I also went into the PCI Plug N' Play config and toggled the IRQ
11, 5 and DMA 1, 5 as being used by a ISA Card.  Any ideas what else I
can change?  It works fine under DOS now but in Windows, it would lockup
the machine one minute after it locks up and I don't know how to find out
what is causing the problem.

> This is the collection of cards in my configuration:
> PCI NCR 810 scsi-controller

    I have this card but it's still in the box and I didn't install it
yet as I am still waiting for the new SCSI cable to come so I am using my
HP SCSI NCR based 8 bit SCSI Controller card and i already have this
configured correctly as the machine won't get pass the memory check if this is
setup incorrectly.

> PCI Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM

    Will be getting a PCI Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM but currently am
using a ISA 16bit Diamond SpeedStar+ Hi-Color card (any ideas what irq or
dma a video card uses?)

> ISA Novell NE-2000 N.I.

    Don't have a ethernet card yet...

> I recently put in an old Galaxy NX to get some annoying FM-screams
> from Indycar, and that didn't change the status of the system.
> Everything still worked after changing the baseport at the GUS from
> 220 to 240 and putting in some extra IRQ's and DMA's :)

    I still have it at 220 :)  What do you mean by putting in some extra
IRQ's and DMA's, is that for the GUS setup or in the BIOS?  Also, did you
make any changes to the BIOS setup?  I'm running a P5-90 CPU on this rev 1.3
ASUS P54TP4 motherboard.

> I haven't tried my machine with a MAX though.  If you want me to put a
> MAX in there, I'll take the job to do it for you...

    Hmmm, that would be neat if you have a GUSMax nearby :)

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!




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From: -Vince- <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:53:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: XM, Dope, Triton (twice, actually, cool huh!)

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Sam wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, -Vince- wrote:
>
> > > Set them as slow (i.e. big) as they'll go. 4 clocks is probably too fast
> > > on a 66 mhz motherboard? is that what it is? or is it processor speed...
> >
> >     This is a P5-90 motherboard and 4 is the slowest it's go since the
>
> oh well, *must* be slow enough then.
>

    It should be although the guy who sold me the motherboard who is
very knowledgeable since he is a unix developer for FreeBSD told me to
use 5 but I only see up to 4...

> > default was at 3 and the range was from 1 to 4... It won't work if I have
> > it set at 3 though.  Also, do you know anything about the options below
> > that I can mess around with?
> >
> > DRAM Read Timing EDO/STD: x222/x333
> > DRAM Write Timing: x333
> > RAS to CAS Delay: 3T
> > DRAM Leadoff Timing: 7T
>
> All to do with system RAM, you can ignore.
>

    Oh okay so this has nothing to do with the problem?

> > CPU to PCI Burst: Enabled
>
> Shouldn't matter since GUS isn't on PCI slot.
>

    Oh okay.. I see what you mean...

> >     It actually works under DOS, it just locks up in Windows and I
> > don't know how to determine where the problem lies in Windows setup.
> > I guess you tried different IRQ, DMA etc... Do you use any odd software
> (e.g. Stacker 4's DPMI feature incompatible with GUS windows drivers.)?
> If not, I've run out of ideas.

    Well, not really since before I used this motherboard, I was
using a Promise EIDE2300+ EIDE+I/O Controller and I know that installed
even a weird 32bit driver but I deleted the driver already so maybe that
has something left behind?

Cheers,
- -Vince- [e-mail] - GUS Mailing Lists Admin
UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95
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From: [e-mail] (NGUYEN Francois                   )
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:57:27 +0200
Subject: Last Eden

Did anyone succeeded in getting Last Eden to work with a gus/max ?

thanks
Francois Nguyen: [e-mail]

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From: Johannes Brahms <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:51:07 +0800 (HKT)
Subject: Jagged Alliance and GUS

Hello....
    Anyone out there is playing Jagged Alliance (from Sir-Tech) with
GUS?  Firstly, I think we should all say thanks to Sir-Tech since GUS is
being supported natively....
    But I am not sure why do I have a noisy output signal when the
music is playing... when I try megaem, it works nicely.
    I have my GUS setting at IRQ 5, Port 240 and DMA 11 and my SB Pro
at IRQ 7, DMA1 and Port 220.
    The noisy output is similar to "over amplified signal", I have
tried lowering the output level but still got the same result.
    Any hint will be appreciate!
    Best Regards
       Ronnie

------------------------------

From: Johannes Brahms <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:51:07 +0800 (HKT)
Subject: Jagged Alliance and GUS

Hello....
    Anyone out there is playing Jagged Alliance (from Sir-Tech) with
GUS?  Firstly, I think we should all say thanks to Sir-Tech since GUS is
being supported natively....
    But I am not sure why do I have a noisy output signal when the
music is playing... when I try megaem, it works nicely.
    I have my GUS setting at IRQ 5, Port 240 and DMA 11 and my SB Pro
at IRQ 7, DMA1 and Port 220.
    The noisy output is similar to "over amplified signal", I have
tried lowering the output level but still got the same result.
    Any hint will be appreciate!
    Best Regards
       Ronnie

------------------------------

From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:19:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.

Okay, when the UltraSound Experience CD first came out, it was free,
right?  But then Gravis said it was still free, but that there would be a
$7.00 S&H charge, right?  Okay, with this info at hand, I sent away for
the UltraSound MIDI adaptor ($35), which also has an S&H of $7.  Now,
since the CD is free, but it had an S/H charge of $7, but it was sent
with my MIDI adaptor (CD weighs only an ounce), what should the total
be?  Would you say $42?  Well, I was charged $49.  I don't think this
meant that it was a $7 S/H charge *per* item, unless the stuff was sent
separately.  So, I am guessing that the CD itself was $7, the MIDI box
was $35, and S/H total was $7.  But, if that were so, does that mean that
those of you who ordered the CD were charged $14?  Or was it $7 (being
that it was free to us GUSers, but we'd still have to pay $7 S/H).
Yes, yes, the CD package was labeled $6.95, but Gravis said that was for
the S/H charge incurred when shipped to stores anyway, right?  For people
who got the CD, tell me how much you were charged for it; I would like to
know if I was overcharged $7.

                        -Peter

------------------------------

From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:19:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.

Okay, when the UltraSound Experience CD first came out, it was free,
right?  But then Gravis said it was still free, but that there would be a
$7.00 S&H charge, right?  Okay, with this info at hand, I sent away for
the UltraSound MIDI adaptor ($35), which also has an S&H of $7.  Now,
since the CD is free, but it had an S/H charge of $7, but it was sent
with my MIDI adaptor (CD weighs only an ounce), what should the total
be?  Would you say $42?  Well, I was charged $49.  I don't think this
meant that it was a $7 S/H charge *per* item, unless the stuff was sent
separately.  So, I am guessing that the CD itself was $7, the MIDI box
was $35, and S/H total was $7.  But, if that were so, does that mean that
those of you who ordered the CD were charged $14?  Or was it $7 (being
that it was free to us GUSers, but we'd still have to pay $7 S/H).
Yes, yes, the CD package was labeled $6.95, but Gravis said that was for
the S/H charge incurred when shipped to stores anyway, right?  For people
who got the CD, tell me how much you were charged for it; I would like to
know if I was overcharged $7.

                        -Peter

------------------------------

From: "Khor Chin Heong" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 10:09:12 +0800
Subject: GUS:DMA problem - DRAM refresh affecting it?

I have a US486P3 486DX2-66 VL motherboard, with a UMC 82C491 chipset,
AMI BIOS, and a GUS 3.73. The problem is when I try to play a MIDI file
using the PLAYMIDI provided; the program keeps reporting something
like "Error loading patch xxx: No response from DMA channel" although
it can load about 0-50% of the patches.
Occasionally, it will work, *if* the size and number of patches being
loaded is small.
Programs like PLAYFILE, Cubic Player and MOD players work fine.
DOOM 2 also doesn't work and hangs when initializing the DMA. Even if
it does work (occasionally), the music plays, but the sound effects
goes off or gets stuck/repeating after a while.
However all works fine when in Windows (?)

Here's what I have tried with no success:

- - Replaced my VGA and VL IDE cards with normal ISA.
  (There's only the VGA card, IDE and GUS in my system)

- - Put the GUS in VL, 16 bit and 8 bit slots.

- - Tried all IRQs (3,5,7,11,12,15) and DMAs (1,3,5,6,7)

- - Fiddled with the BIOS settings (bus clock, wait states, I/O recovery)
  (refresh divider affects it, see below)

- - Replaced the GUS.

However doing the following *does* make it work:

- - Put the GUS in another motherboard. (works 100%)

- - Increase the interval between DRAM refreshes (makes the error less
  frequent, but it still *does* occur). Also equivalent to increasing
  "Refresh Divider" in BIOS.
  Here's what I did on the timer, for asm programmers:
    MOV     AL,74
    OUT     43,AL
    MOV     AX,00A0
    OUT     41,AL
    XCHG    AL,AH
    OUT     41,AL

Now, WHAT THE HECK is wrong with my motherboard?? Why should a DRAM
refresh affect the DMA channels?? Is it a design flaw? Is it the GUS?


- --
C.H.Khor

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From: Cuthalion / Sliced Bread <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:24:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Peter C. Chien Jr. wrote:

> Okay, when the UltraSound Experience CD first came out, it was free,
> right?  But then Gravis said it was still free, but that there would be a
> $7.00 S&H charge, right?  Okay, with this info at hand, I sent away for
> the UltraSound MIDI adaptor ($35), which also has an S&H of $7.  Now,
> since the CD is free, but it had an S/H charge of $7, but it was sent
> with my MIDI adaptor (CD weighs only an ounce), what should the total
> be?  Would you say $42?  Well, I was charged $49.  I don't think this
> meant that it was a $7 S/H charge *per* item, unless the stuff was sent
> separately.  So, I am guessing that the CD itself was $7, the MIDI box
> was $35, and S/H total was $7.  But, if that were so, does that mean that
> those of you who ordered the CD were charged $14?  Or was it $7 (being
> that it was free to us GUSers, but we'd still have to pay $7 S/H).
> Yes, yes, the CD package was labeled $6.95, but Gravis said that was for
> the S/H charge incurred when shipped to stores anyway, right?  For people
> who got the CD, tell me how much you were charged for it; I would like to
> know if I was overcharged $7.
>

    As I understand it, the price is the media/mastering cost, rather
than the shipping & handling..

/***************************************************************
*** Jesse Morris *** [e-mail] *** [e-mail] ***
***************** Cuthalion / Sliced Bread  *******************/


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Leung)
Date: Mon,  5 Jun 1995 22:33:38 GMT
Subject: SSF2T CD

    I have problem running SSF2T CD (Not Floppy), when ever I load the
game up, it saids 32loader error : unexcepion .........
What is wrong? I tried everything like a clean boot, only load HIMEM.SYS
and I still can't get it working..

[e-mail]



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From: Gavin Scarman <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 13:57:05 +1030
Subject: NMI is being phased out, thus so is SBOS

With most chipset manufacturers going down the same path as Intel and removing
parity RAM support on their Pentium Chipsets this leaves the GUS in a poor
situation for SBOS support.
The NMI is what is used to halt the computer when a parity error is found.
Chipset manufacturers obviously feel the since parity checking is being removed,
there is nothing else that needs the NMI so they don't implement it.
Regardless of this attitude being right or wrong it is definately the way things
are, and will be.
Since SBOS (and the new Megaem??) require the NMI, the GUS will soon no longer
be able to bill itself as Sound Blaster compatible.
The final result? It is even more critical the the GUS get native support in all
new games.
I'd be interested to hear if anyone with a recent Pentium MB (eg. P75/90/100),
has the NMI still enabled.

------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Haydn Evans)
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 06:24 BST-1
Subject: GUS and MIDI Keyboard.

In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
Hi All!

I have just bought a MUSICSTAR MIDI keyboard package to assist my kids
with learning music. I know it's pretty basic to you knowledgeable sorts
but it should suit the purpose. Could any of you answer the following:

1.
I am having problems setting it up reliably despite reading and following
the manual (novel, eh? Reading the manual I mean). It's quite
straightforward but the software supplied does not seem to recognise the
GUS MIDI driver. I can configure it OK but there is no sound. Although I
have managed to get it to work, some of the time. Anybody else using this
keyboard with a GUS?

2.
Where can I find the best info on MIDI? Basic stuff to get me started.

3.
The company that market the keyboard (American) have a conference on CI$
where they offer assistance, updates, etc.
I am not on that system. Can I access it via the Internet?

4.
Which is the best software to use with this system?

5.
Are there any MIDI files that actually sound like the music we listen to,
pop chart music for example. The stuff I have heard is so bland and
contrived. I suppose it's a question of copyright?

Thanks for your time...

                        ]-[aydn


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From: Ferdinand Mataragnon <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: TV

On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Will Dormann wrote:

> Sorry if I am reposting something already said. . . I haven't really been
> following along the Terminal Velocity thread.
>
> Well, there is a patch out for the game.  It will now support the GUS!  :)
>
> It's a great game, now that I have sound!  <G>

Now for the next question ...

Well, where can we find it? =)

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From: Ferdinand Mataragnon <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Peter C. Chien Jr. wrote:

> Okay, when the UltraSound Experience CD first came out, it was free,
> right?  But then Gravis said it was still free, but that there would be a
> $7.00 S&H charge, right?  Okay, with this info at hand, I sent away for
[ ... lotsa stuff snipped ... ]

I'm in Canada. I picked up the CD from Gravis's main office (which is not
too far off from where I live). The CD was definitely not free. It
cost me $7 for the CD. If I had let them ship it instead, it would still
have cost me $7 according to the person I talked to. It was faster if I
picked it up and I wouldn't have to pay extra for a money order.
In Canada, it's $7 Canadian to pick up or to ship it. To the US, it's
$7 US to ship it there (which includes the cost of the CD).

Hope this helps clear up some things.

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From: Ferdinand Mataragnon <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Mail order to Advanced Gravis confusion.

On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Peter C. Chien Jr. wrote:

> Okay, when the UltraSound Experience CD first came out, it was free,
> right?  But then Gravis said it was still free, but that there would be a
> $7.00 S&H charge, right?  Okay, with this info at hand, I sent away for
[ ... lotsa stuff snipped ... ]

I'm in Canada. I picked up the CD from Gravis's main office (which is not
too far off from where I live). The CD was definitely not free. It
cost me $7 for the CD. If I had let them ship it instead, it would still
have cost me $7 according to the person I talked to. It was faster if I
picked it up and I wouldn't have to pay extra for a money order.
In Canada, it's $7 Canadian to pick up or to ship it. To the US, it's
$7 US to ship it there (which includes the cost of the CD).

Hope this helps clear up some things.

- --
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