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- From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
- Subject: Re: No 64-bit OpenVMS soon?
- Message-ID: <C19M1B.KHM@dscomsa.desy.de>
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- Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
- Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
- References: <1993Jan15.194312.3438@sol.UVic.CA> <1993Jan18.172458.24506@eco.twg.com> <1993Jan18.211506.27601@oracle.pnl.gov> <1jg5msINN1mk@manuel.anu.edu.au> <C13yJK.CMJ@dscomsa.desy.de> <1993Jan20.001847.1807@eco.twg.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:03:10 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan20.001847.1807@eco.twg.com>, reece@eco.twg.com (Reece R.
- Pollack) writes:
-
- |>In article <C13yJK.CMJ@dscomsa.desy.de>, hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill
- |>Hallam-Baker) writes:
- |>|>What matters a damn sight less than a 64 bit O/S is a 64 bit database. When
- |>will
- |>|>Rdb be 64 bit is the real question.
- |>
- |>Not being sarcastic in the least, what part of RDB needs to be 64 bit?
- |>Expanding the address space from 32 to 64 bits is not in itself going
- |>to make things better, unless the application is starved for memory.
- |>Remember that Alpha/VMS doesn't suffer from the Vax/VMS 512Mb physical
- |>memory limitation, even though any single process is still limited to
- |>a 2Gb virtual address space.
-
- Each of our events is approx 100Kb
-
- We take 10 million of them per second.
-
- Even with filtering we take Terabytes of data per month.
-
- 2Gb is small beans, we will be getting machines with that sort of memory within
- the next few years. The successor machine to ZEUS will be producing 2 GB
- events.
-
-
- |>|>Although it would be handy to do big transfers of data - the VMS 64K limit
- |>is
- |>|>far too small, this is not essential yet. It will become essential once
- |>alphas
- |>|>start operating with a 64K page size though!
- |>
- |>The limitiation of I/Os to 64Kb was lifted quite some time ago. The VAX/VMS
- |>I/O User's Reference Manual: Part 1 for VAX/VMS V4.4 states:
- |>
- |>"Non-DSA disk devices can read or write up to 65.535 bytes in a single
- |> request. DSA devices connected to an HSC50 can transfer up to 4 billion
- |> bytes in a single request. In all cases, the maximum size of the transfer
- |> is limited by the number of pages which can be faulted into the process's
- |> working set and then locked into memory."
- |>
- |>The relevant fields of the IRP were expanded to 32 bits during the V3 -> V4
- |>enhancements.
-
- Read the device driver manual and look at the format of the QIO. The 16 bit
- length is hard coded in there.
-
- What I would like to do is to read in single events with single reads.
-
- --
-
- Phill Hallam-Baker
-