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- From: swf@tools3teradata.com (Stan Friesen)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Johnson uses Argument from Personal Incredulity
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 19:22:17 GMT
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- In article <2B63AD4A.27409@ics.uci.edu>, bvickers@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
- |> In this particular case, the assumption being made is that
- |> only animals that are preyed upon need camouflage. What is
- |> overlooked is that predators also benefit from being
- |> concealed from the prey. Polar bears stalk seals resting
- |> on the ice. If the seal sees the bear coming from far
- |> enough away, it can escape.
-
- Not only that, but this particular item has been confirmed by observation
- of stalking polar bears.
-
- That is, the fact that a seal can escape if it sees the bear in time is
- confirmed by observed instances of this happening.
-
- And by comparing stalking by young, inexperienced bears, and older, more
- experienced ones, it can be shown that camoflouge is an important component
- of hunting success in polar bears. (The younger bears make no effort to
- make optimal use of the camoflouge opportunities available to them).
-
- |> The polar bear argument turned out to be almost too easy
- |> to demolish but, in an important sense, this is not the
- |> point. Even if the foremost authority in the world can't
- |> explain some remarkable biological phenomenon, this doesn't
- |> mean that it is inexplicable. ... But we
- |> aren't testing human ingenuity. Even if we found one
- |> example that we *couldn't* explain, we should hesitate to
- |> draw any grandiose conclusions from the fact of our own
- |> inability. Darwin himself was very clear on this point.
-
- I agree. Unfortunately biologists themselves often fall into this trap.
- The main argument against a monophyletic origin of all arthropods (from
- a arthropods ancestor) is based largely on an inability to imagine how
- crustacean and insect style leg joints could evolve from the same (already
- jointed) ancestor.
-
- For this reason I *never* accepted these arguments. Fairly recently a new
- analysis of leg form in early arthropods has shown that there *is* a series of
- viable intermediates, and there are even fossils of them.
-
- So, given how easily even a trained scientist is taken in by this sort of
- fallacy, it is easy to understand how it could confuse many people.
-
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- sarima@teradata.com (formerly tdatirv!sarima)
- or
- Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
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