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- From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
- Subject: Re: Vitalism is dead (Grasse)
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:39:27 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.202838.25528@news.nd.edu> scharle@lukasiewicz.cc.nd.edu (scharle) writes:
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- [Pierre-Paul Grasse' and his new "theory" of evolution...]
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- >p. 2: "Any living being possesses an enormous amount of
- >'intelligence,' very much more than is necessary to build the most
- >magnificent of cathedrals. Today, this 'intelligence' is called
- >'information,' but it is still the same thing."
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- I can't help but be sarcastic and comment about the great
- "intelligence" needed to design crystals, to make small magnets form
- strings, and so forth.
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- The study of self-organizing systems is by now, at least I
- hope, a recognized field of study, drawing heavily on computer
- simulations. I point this out because the level of intelligence of
- computers is actually very low in some ways, and "artificial
- intelligence" has turned out to be a very difficult goal.
-
- >p. 1: "One of the radical differences between physical and biological
- >phenomena lies in the fact that the former must necessarily and
- >absolutely obey the laws of matter." He goes on to cite flying as
- >an example of living things working against gravity, and says that
- >when the biological and physical laws conflict, there is death.
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- PPG makes me laugh. Lots of inanimate objects can defy gravity
- in this fashion. Has he ever seen an airplane? Or smoke? Or the Moon?
- Or a dead leaf blown around by the wind? I've seen all of those
- things.
-
- --
- /Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster
- /lip@s1.gov
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