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- From: cotera@woods.ulowell.edu
- Subject: Re: Who does Phillip Johnson think the creationists are?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.115605.1@woods.ulowell.edu>
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- References: <2B53B66F.8366@ics.uci.edu> <1993Jan25.130636.1@woods.ulowell.edu> <2B6444A7.1594@ics.uci.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:56:05 GMT
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- In article <2B6444A7.1594@ics.uci.edu>, bvickers@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes:
-
- > This requires almost no response since Ray himself admits that it
- > is not a scientific claim to say that "God exists." The fact
- > that he even included it at all suggests to me that he felt his
- > list was too short and had to add at least one more claim so
- > as not to appear ignorant. Backfire.
-
- As I said, his existence is crucial to the interpretation of the facts. If His
- existence was disproved then Creationism would be falsified.
-
- >
- >> 2. Non-constant speed of light (although I for one don't beleive this is
- >> central to Creationism).
- >
- > This is the one scientific claim made (or repeated) by Ray Cote that
- > can be answered. It is falsified. See the next article.
-
- I haven't seen the next article yet but I'll make some preliminary remarks.
- 1. The evidence supports the claim that the speed of light in a vacuum is
- a constant (it is not the same constant in dielectric media). However this
- does not constitute falsification.
- 2. There's at least one non-Creationist theory that says that the speed of
- light is not constant. I think the theory has to do with the Grand Unified
- Theory.
-
- >
- >> 3. Non-constant decay rates (I'll try to get a list of secular sources
- >> that actually show that the decay constants of radioactive substances
- >> can change).
- >
- > Unsubstantiated, therefore there is nothing to answer.
- >
-
- The information comes from a FAQ on alt.physics.new-theories. That FAQ hasn't
- been posted recently, so I'm asking that it be posted.
- --Ray Cote
-